February 4th 2009 8:12 am PT

1200? Noooope! I feel broke already!

Damn it, why charge so much much? More people would buy it if it was priced at 800 or less…but nooooo. MS need to realize there is a economic crisis on at the moment lol.

Where is NHL 3 on 3? This game looks more cheap than Aegis Wing and is 1200 points, yea right!

1200 is too much. There is no proper widescreen support- it just blows the image up, even then it doesn’t fill the screen. And what really really peed me off is this- if you’re using an arcade stick, you have no option to re-assign the buttons ! So you have to fire with A and launch the pod with X. You can use rapid fire with B, but to me this is not satisfactory. These buttons are too far apart with a stick and it is not comfortable or a particularly natural layout. No buy. I was really really looking forward to this, but PRICE, POOR WIDESCREEN SUPPORT and lack of RE-ASSIGNABLE CONTROLS make this a no buy for me. Please pass on my comments Larry. I can’t believe that was missed in testing. It took me 5 bloody minutes to see these faults.

Yay!

LOL… 1.2.0.0 for such a game… It’s a shame! No-buy for me.

Not worth 1200 points I’m afraid.

Pricey. It would need very good reviews for me to purchase.

I was looking forward to this but not at this price 800 points would be more fair.

Christ on a bike 1200 points for this?, I mean it may be good an all, but it’s a bit on the pricey side, 800 points would have been a much fairer price point, and it’s firmly in the impulse buy catagory then, not only that, but people are being more and more selective over what they buy due to the economic climate, surely MS can see this?, or is it a case of, 1200pts, them idiots will lap it up no matter what?.

Trouble is, the more people who buy these overpriced games, the bigger the green light glows for MS to increase prices further, and the goal posts move, yet again.

1200 zOMG !! Nooo…. T_T

Wow, this brought back childhood memories (This was one of my favourites). I struggle a bit paying 1200 points (>$20 aud) for digital content, though i could not help it with this one. Now i have it and have played further i believe it’s well worth it.

I switched to the old (2d) mode to remind me of the good old days, i thought the graphics were absolutely amazing as a child, though compared with todays standard it looks pretty ugly! Though when switching to 3d – new graphics mode, this looks sweet as apple pie

Happy camper – off to play more r-type…..

the team needs to work on a patch to do button assignments and address co-op online lag. (some of the worst lag since Smash TV).

1200 points ? Never

I think its well funny how every week now Microsoft comes out with a new arcade title/DLC (which is overpriced) and every single comment is about it is people saying how it is too much and looking at everyones gamercards no ones buying it. is that not telling you something?

surely by now major knows that the community isn’t happy with the pricing nowadays people are complaing rather then talking about the game itself

Trouble is, MS are pressing the right “buttons”, they play on the rose-tinted nostaligia of things like Street Fighter and R-type, they know that a large percentage of their customer base played these games as kids, and as such, a percentange of the customer base will pick it up “no matter what”.

I played R-type as a teen, I probably spent WAY more than 1200 points worth on it in my lunchtimes down the chippy outside school, however, I won’t (well, not at the moment anyway) spring 1200 points on it.

Never heard of it (I must be too old), for 1200 I won’t even bother downloading it.

Oh…i was really looking foward to this one. 1200 is just too much

I played the demo, its a good remake.

At $0.25 a credit, you would need to play 60 games to break even, that on top off all added stuff, I feel $15 if fare, even though it does SEEM expensive. I’ll take it though.

Great game but 400 points too expensive for my tastes, surely it would sell double at 800 ?

1200 points? It looks like 800 is the new 400, and 1200 is the new 800.

When is the last time we had a 400 point game? This game should be 400 points!

Argh, 1200 empire credits for a refurbished 8bits classic. Things are getting wierd at ms :/

Huh? What the heck is this crap?

@Ozzzy189
You might want to talk in the xbox games forum for R-Type Dimensions at: http://forums.xbox.com/1224/ShowForum.aspx Expression and share your opinion there.

@r3dreck
Um, no disrespect, but since you’ve never heard of it or ever played it, YOU should at least try the demo. Then look up Gradius, Darius Twin, Thunder Force and Ikaruga (but you’re no where near prepared for Ikaruga – seriously – nor am I but it is fun with a friend). Youtube the mentioned as you are missing out some history and headache making games, but they give you full pleasure of accomplishment when you beat them. Oh, and they are fun too by the way.

Finally my chance for revenge against The Evil Bydo Empire™! They stole so much of my money in that damned arcade!

1200 points is a bit steep but at least there’s a fair amount of content in there, 2 full arcade games. If they were sold seperately they’d be 800 points each. At least the Bydo aren’t going on about doritos…

@Ozzzy189
Thanks for the heads up. That is somewhat important to me if I am paying more than $5 for a game. I have Super R-Type on SNES, I’ll just pull that out and play it. I only played it because of my nephew – I fell in love with that first boss alien thing. The POD is a very nice weapon. Dimensions adds what I always wanted in R-Type, 2 Player Simultaneous Play and now Online Co-Op – AWESOME! 1200 Points is a bit steep. IF I buy points this weekend, The ‘NEW’ Grateful Dead Pack and The Maw are mine for the pickings.

I can’t say that this game is not worth 1200 Points, but are there any hidden goodies? Like changing my ship’s look (color or using my avatar as the ship – crazy stuff like WipeOut XL’s animal crafts)? Or playing the levels backwards (going left, not right) to the boss for a ludicrous achievement (Achievement Unlocked – Running Away But Failed: 25 G)? Those are small things that make old school games ‘remarkable’ in a sense instead of run of the mill.

1200 points……seems steep to me as well…..I’ll pass on this as well.

well i purchased 2100ms pts for this title, i now have 3,280 ms pts and of course il try the demo then most likely purchase it. MS is a Clever mother fo because they release tripe every week for 6 or so weeks then they release a good expensive game so ppl end up buying it becoz they have had nothing good on arcade for such a long time.

Gee and people said I was paranoid about aracde sucking. Not so crazy now huh. lol. Well price wise. In OXM this month the guys that release arcade games said they will continue to release crap often (no really they did look for the article)!
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Now if you want to know why everything is expensive in out hurting economy? Thats easy… Unlike everyone else whos making things affordable so people will buy more and save us from a depression, MS is charging you MORE so only THEY survive with the few morons that actually buy this stuff for ridiculous prices.
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I don’t think the people at MS know what “economy pains” means. I think the people that head up the division of Arcade probably make like 6 digits and don’t understand poverty as they drive to work in their BMWs. lol.
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If you were smart, you’d email MS and complain.

Guys is 1200 points for remakes of 2 classic shmups. That’s 600 pts a piece; hardly breaking the bank.

@RainbowDespair, you are missing the point, by miles.

Its got nothing to do with breaking the bank, its to do with the price of XBLA content going up and up.

1200 points? no thanks.

All thanks to the ‘Summer of Arcade’

Count me out! at least I still have my SNES to play Super R-Type!

If you guys really want to complain it’s simple, vote with your wallet and don’t buy it! trust me it’s the only thing Microsoft seem to understand.

I can’t believe I have to wait another week for NHL Arcade :/

800 points = “yes please”. 1200 = “no thank you”. I’ll take the free demo though!

Unfortunately for me it’s R-Type and I would probably pay 1600 for this. I’ve been waiting for this since last summer. I’m about to try it out and see what people mean about the widescreen and button assignment. Hopefully it plays well.

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So that was badass lol. Just bought it! Just as fun as I remember. I also accidentally bought the R-Type Premium Theme, it’s still very early in the morning for me lol. It’s actually a pretty cool theme, but I was still enjoying the ATHF Theme so oops.

Off to play more R-Type.

Wow, I can’t believe how many are complaining about the price. The SNES version of R-Type costs 800 Wii points and this is ten times a better package.

Denny’s just recently had a free breakfast marathon yesterday, it had 2 eggs 2 bacons 2 sausages 2 breads 2 … anyways you get the idea … perhaps Microsoft should follow suit and give away 2 of their own somethings

1200 points for Nostalgia? No thanks.

lol, at 1,200 points I won’t even bother downloading the demo because I know I would never spend that much on this game. e probably cant even afford it.

Considering these games are still released on the PS2 and handhelds for a lot more, it’s not really a bad price. But I don’t really understand why they made it so much either, I’d have been interested in getting this but 1200 does still feel too much.

Ahh you are kidding me I was in town all excited to download this, just come back from town and 1200pts? …damn you!

@willgp
Aegis Wing, Yaris , Undertow and Hexic. I missed it at Dennys. TGI Fridays is has the ‘Give Me More Stripes’ Program going on where you earn free food. Check it at: http://www.tgifridays.com/gmms/GiveMeMoreStripes.aspx

I love 2 eggs scrambled (lightly), toast and sausage, but please no more pink cars with alien DNA. Thank you, but no thank you.

@dirt junkie 77
At times I wish the XBLA Arcade acted like a ‘virtual arcade’ and allowed users to ‘insert’ 1 MS point to play the full version of the game. If I’m good enough on ONE point, I could unlock all the achievements, if not, I’d keep inserting 1 MS Point to keep playing or totally buy the game outright. Crazy idea, but I’d know which games I’d buy after a few plays and which ones I’d just play on and off.

It’s been a long time since I posted here, but the one title/s I have always asked for on XBLA was the R-Type series, even though I have the proper arcade originals on MAME. However 1200 is just asking way too much and I never complain about prices – ever.

The R-Type series was possibly the best shooter ever during the 90′s. Awesome music, incredibly original guardians and original firepower add-ons. I would pay 800 MSP without thinking about it, but not the present price.

One thousand two hundred? Are you kidding? In the context of all the games offered on XBLA and their prices, how does this fit in? This is a retro remake, it should thus not be over 800. Mainly because it is not a new game with the accompanying development costs.

yeah sorry i liked R-type back in the day,and yes it maybe 1 and 2 together,but i dont think its worth the price of an xbox original

I guess I should just add to the pile…I also won’t be getting this. 1200 is too high…and I won’t accept 1200 as the new 800.

At this point I’m surprised that no one has mentioned one word about Omega Five.

Already copped it, 2 games and co-op for 1200 was a fair price to me. Nobody is forcing anyone to pay for XBLA games so if you don’t want to don’t buy them. That’s the best way to send a message to MS. But i have a feeling that next week this game will chart on the the XBLA list.

1200 points? Forget it. I’m not even going to bother with the demo.

I could get 2 or 3 other arcade games for 1200 points, which is what I will do.

Embora seja um bom jogo acho que não vale 1200MP para um remake.

No sale for me yet again

no way im paying 1200

Pass.

1200 points …. why the hell is this 1200 points?

Sorry major, you can add me to the long list of people here who would have jumped at it if it was 800 pts. I really don’t get microsofts marketing sometimes, I would put money on it that if it was 800 pts it would sell at least double what it will at 1200 pts, probably way more than that. What’s so difficult to understand about that?

People really are obsessed with the difference between $10 and $15 and I really can’t understand it. This game is amazingly great.

The difference between 800 and 1200 pts may be small but its a line, a mental barrier if you like that a lot of people down’t like crossing. Its the difference between a game being an impulse buy or not. Also the thing is for me I like to buy game, play them to death then sell them on ebay and recoup 1/2 to 2/3 of the initial cost thus financing further games. With downloaded games you are stuck with them and I know I probably wouldn’t play this for more than a few days. Everyone has a mental limit on what they’ll spend on arcade games and for most its 800 pts, the quicker MS realise this the better.

Awesome game,

too bad the pricing is bs.

Seriously, you guys are complaining that they’re charging $15 for R-Type 1 & R-Type 2 remade with enhanced graphics, achievements, and leaderboards? Get a life. That’s just $7.50 a game. R-Type 1 on the Wii will cost you $8 and that’s just a barebones port of the TG-16 version.

too expensive.

@RainbowDespair: What does “getting a life” have to do with having a issue with a price?

Granted the pricing structure has gone a bit haywaire since the 400mp for retro, 800mp for new games. but 1200mp aint that much money, considering some other XBLA games were dearer.

Also consider some full games, the price can be upward of $120($US) (in Australia) $20 for R-type is a good by.

I wonder if an arcade can be released with out you people complaing about something. Even if the ultimate game in the world was released, you guys would find something wrong with it.

Well having a flick through I see at the time of writing only three people have bought it on here. Yeah, it is 400 points too much for a spruced up port and I won’t be buying it either.
At 1200 you’ve got a “stop and think” price, so I stopped, and I like many others thought “no”, which is a shame as games like this deserve more attention.
If it was 800…

@Danowat32
You’re completely wrong. The price has not gone up. I own every game and the mojority of them are 800 points. Check the facts, there are only a few 1200 point games. Hell one of the first arcade games Bankshot Billiards was 1200 points.

Man, I was on the fence about this, but the R-Type Dimensions demo totally inspired me to download it. And by “download it”, I mean R-Types on the Playstation Store, which includes BOTH games and is $6 cheaper.

Seriously, 1200 points for a simple graphical overlay and tacked-on co-op is a crime. Give me a game like Darius, price it respectably and then we can talk business.

So here’s something to think about: how far will the price gouging go before it’s too much? Perhaps you folks think that a $5 jump and a few dollars here and there isn’t that significant, but you have to open your eyes and look at the big picture here. At this rate, I dread to think what something like Outrun Arcade will cost. On the flipside, MS might be cashing in now, but they could be selling a lot more if these games were more reasonably priced and less shovelware was released on the service.

Microsoft loves people like RainbowDespair. They’ll take anything up the wahzoo for whatever price. Also, the Wii doesn’t make you pay for themes or online multiplayer or gamerpictures. In my book, they get a free pass.

Lol @ people justifying paying for emulated version as opposed to this version with really nice enhanced graphics, leaderboards, online play, achievements, and even more features.

CryptoElite, beauty is only skin deep…

I thought this was quite nicely done, particularly the fun retro modes. But… the price is just too high for such an old game.

1200 points is a lot for a live arcade game.

@ROBBMAC

The problem is that we want to play these games, we want a true Xbox Live EXPERIENCE, but why pay so much for something that should only cost … free? So I DO want it, but I will complain and hope one day they will understand and chop off a couple peanuts!

haha are prices in the XBLA actually going up AGAIN? They lost me when they decided to shift to an 800 point standard pricing. At 1200 you might as well remove the option from my dashboard because I’m never going back in.

And to think then I get to pay an extra $50 a year to be able to use the multiplayer aspects of these games that I’m paying 1200 points for.

Good luck!

Looks to me like 1200 points are the new 800…what the hell happened to 400 points Arcade releases?

I agree with the sentiment here that believes this game is over-priced at 1200 points. I bought this last night to relive fond memories of the old days and while it is OK….it’s an 800 point game at best. The game is good but not worth that premium price IMO.

When we have games like Rez HD and Ikaruga which were Dreamcast games for 800 points why on earth are we seeing 8-bit remakes for 1200 points???
Seriously its beyond a joke, I guess this is the reward we get for spending 1200 poings on good games like Braid, Castle Crashers and Super Street Fighter HD.
I’d recommend everyone pick up Rez, Izaruga, Omega Five, 1942, Assault Heroes 1 & 2 and just about any other 800 point shooter over this.

I WAS really excited about this game coming to XBLA. That was until I found out it was 1200 MSP. I’m sorry, but NO THANKS. Like everyone else said, that’s just way too much money for a game like this.

I’ll just keep playing it on my PSP via emulator.

1200 points? Hell no.

Good point Drunk Ste. I would buy this at 800, even with the faults i mentioned on page one, but not at 1200. I really am looking forward to outrun,space invaders extreme,and arkanoid, and was looking forward to this too, but eneded up not buying, i hope the same doesn’t happen with those games previously mentioned. It’s simple, you are better selling more of anything at a lower price point than not as much at a high one. MS- cut the costs, folks don’t have much money at the mo. Anyone know if the crappy madcatz arcade stick with the paddle on will work with space invaders and arkanoid ?

I have a straightforward question, to which I would appreciate a straightforward answer.

When was the announcement made that retro remakes were no longer going to cost 400 MS points? My reason for asking this is that if what we have here turns out to be remakes of two retro arcade games (R Type 1 & 2), then we have 800 MS points worth of game. For 1200, you need to add Third Lightning. Until you do, no sale.

All you people saying it is no big deal are completely and utterly wrong. Unless I missed the price hike, this is simply robbery.

This new spruced up version of this game(s) really does look sweet!!

As soon as I get my new 360 sent to me (it died last weekend from rrod – 3rd time now… doh!)I’ll defo be getting this game. The pricing of this game does seem a little crazy though but to be honest if this was released as a retail disc and not a digital download then I reckon I would have still bought the game.

Please being us more classics like this! …although next time maybe a little bit more money friendly! lol

1200 too much, shame

will wait for sales, like those at Christmas

@Drunk Ste
FINALLY someone feeling the gaming vibe. “If you don’t like the price, turn and buy something you might have skipped that is cheaper and in your range.”

@Ozzzy189
Did you say ‘paddle’? [blinking and wondering] is there a trackball accessory also for Centipede?

I finally played the demo yesterday and I love it. The on-the-fly 2D to 3D is awesome (with Crazy Camera option enabled). And though this is a game I paid (I think $40) on SNES, the 1200 price point can not be ignored, justified or denied. It’s a great game, great games, I’d feel ‘better’ if were on a CD for some odd reason. Sonic’s Ultimate Genesis Collection is coming Feb 10 for only $30 so. . .

I’d rather pay 1200 for a game than 250 for a theme.
I like R-Type and this is a good revamp. If you think it’s worth it, you buy it, otherwise don’t.

It will be interesting to see how this sells, obviously it will be top next week but I bet it has a shorter tail than a boxer dog.

Pass what happened to 400 and 800 point games LOL.. Sorry Major NO SALE

Not sure at this point 1200 appears to be a little to much.

Hammy

1200 MP is nothing. You get 2 really good retro games. For me it was instant buy. I wonder why people is saying “SOrry Major, NO SALE!!!” when Major Nelson only reporting the news, he’s not setting the prices, the publishers do.

Like KEVLAR x said, 800 MSP for a XBLA game is one of those magic price points that appeals to people just like $199 is for consoles. MS knows this, which is why they dropped the Arcade model to $199, and look at how much the sales increased! So why can’t the same be done for XBLA games too??? They’re just killing their XBLA sales with this greedy foolishness!

1200 is too much. $15!!! It should have been 800.

C’mon! LOL if we keep complaining, they’ll hopefully hear us and stop pricing XBLA games so high!

warrengonline— yeah, that madcatz shttiy stick has a paddle mate, or a ‘spinner’ if you prefer. i think it works with astropop as that comes with the stick, but i’m not sure if it works with warlords and the games i mentioned earlier. If it did, it’d be worth buying, as i doubt MS will release a proper paddle for arcade games. Wonder if it works with Zuma too ?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arcade-Games-Stick-Xbox-360/dp/B000MCHETQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1233894120&sr=8-2
The paddle is built in around the right analogue stick.

The Complaining NEVER STOPS, Americans are so funny! why if you refuse to pay for an XBLA game (but you still a dodgy full price game) do you apologise to Major Nelson. He doesn’t care if you buy it or not! And the same goes for your negative opinions of games, weren’t you ever taught, if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all!

@Ozzzy189
Thanks. I’ve seen that craptastic ‘pretty’ junk just waiting for some unsuspecting parent to buy it for their kid. The store manager warned me of that when he saw me eying it for use in Street Fighter HyperFighting in late 2007. I’m just posing this question, but “Why is MadCatz the only ‘popular’ third party controller maker? Why can’t Atari come back to it’s reigning area!?” This is the area where those controller modders need to make a stake in since this is kind of a disservice to fellow fans who do not have the room to put the arcade units in their homes. (i.e. King of Kong) – I want (we need) a REAL trackball and a real paddle, two separate controllers, NOT a combo.

@juan cabrera
No offense, but what do you do when a fly or a mosquito keeps flying around your head or bumping into your face? IF you really want to make a standing point, posting at the xbox.com forums: http://forums.xbox.com/ is a more valid area than here. And not to make a play on words, but you know you DO advertise when you complain, right? Which in turn makes some people curious to see exactly what you’re complaining about. Don’t complain, just reply “Too much for my wallet.” and end it there. Those complaining, do you REALLY like this game and WOULD buy it if it was 800 MS Points? (Let’s check the charts next week – I wish we could also get the number of downloads of both trial and full versions.)

I really like the game, but 1200 Space Bucks is just a little too rich for my blood. Hopefully, it’ll go on sale at some point and then I’ll pick it up.

Warren: if that crappy madcrapz thing has a working paddle, then at the price i can get one for over here, then i may just try it for just that one feature. I’m pretty sure it’ll work with arkanoid and space invaders in the future, so may just take a punt- i can always sell it again, and i even if i only get half back, it would only cost me about 7 pouinds to try it, and get a couple of arcade games i aint got too !

@Ozzzy189
True, mate, true. The analog on the default Xbox360 controller will have to do for me – tis a reason I really do not play Centipede much at all. If it weren’t for the remixed versions (Millipede included), I’d probably not play it all. The music really makes my blood flow. That Mad Catz Arcade Stick (Xbox 360): http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5903341 and it comes with Includes 3 Xbox Live Arcade games: Frogger, Timepilot & Astropop and bonus: PC USB compatible. I will pass, on it, although it is only a little less than $25 (with tax). I think the Xbox LIVE Arcade Unplugged Volume 1 for $20 or less are worth it. ‘Are’ = there are two volumes of games.

“looks like a cheap version of Aegis Wing”
“1200? Never”

Wow, bunch of whiney white poor people in here. No wonder I don’t browse this shit any more. The mainstream 360 community is horrible, and it’s right here.

Nelson, you really should disable commenting. People will still visit your blog, but they won’t be able to say anything in response.

You’re gaining about as much input either way.

Etrian = Idiot
It’s because of people like you that Microsoft is increasing prices on digital content despite the lack of any increased value.
It’s not about whether or not we can afford it – It’s about whether or not we are stupid enough to eat it up… like you.

Atomicow = Moron

What do you mean by Microsoft “increasing prices on digital content”? If these games were released at 800 points each, nobody would be complaining about it. The games have been revamped and 2D/3D is interchangable. There’s online leaderboards and co-op. So where is the “lack of increased value”?

What, do you want a 2 hour, poorly written sob story over nuclear destruction like Braid, covered in a fancy Mario clone? Or perhaps Castle Crashers, which had HORRENDOUS netcode? Don’t talk to me about eating it up.

1200 points! NO WAY! I hope this is not the sign of things to come!

@Gamers Who Have Fun
While some of you have decided to argue more, I FINALLY made it to level four of Omega Five!! Yes, I’m happy. 1200 points is 1200 points. R-type Dimensions is a good game – players can not stress this enough. Some of my friends are eating it up and not taking names as they enjoy it (while in waiting for Street Fighter IV). I’m not happy about the 1200 price point, but I’m not mad either. If MS somehow got the rights to Killer Instinct on SNES and added online play (unlike Soul Calibur for the Dreamcast) and priced it at 4000 points, I know I’d but it as it is my favorite fighting game, next to the Street Fighter series. But we’d still whine if there is lag (netcode), missing frames, re-scored music that does not belong in the game, different voices used for the announcer, etc. SFHDR has gotten better, lots of bugs gone rarely appearing during play.

@Etrian
The ‘price thing’ is like an election here if the game is 1200+. If you buy it, no matter how good it is or what it offers, you’re expected not to buy it as that = “Yes, I love the high price of mediocre arcade games, please sir, give us more of these prices.” (or that is how I see it.) MS knows what they are doing and maybe, just maybe on Fourth of July 2009 we might have ONE day called ‘Arcade Independent Bonanza Day’ where all games for ONE day are only 800 points and lower? Sales would be in the records and spike the charts. Shhhh, I didn’t tell you that though.

Etrian = Misinformed.

The problem is not that this title is 1200 points. It is that R Type on its own would be 400 points, as would R Type 2. This is how retro arcade games have been priced since day 1. I challenge you to find me a title that breaks this rule. Why does combining them mean I have to pay 400 points extra?