February 18th 2009 10:38 am PT

Hmm, charging for a “deleted scene?” I don’t mind DLC, but this sounds extremely premeditated…

Deleted Scene – Brute Force
Released: 2/18/2009
Download to Xbox 360100File Size: 604 KB

604 KB
can i say, it has been included in the game when released?
we just use points to “activate” it?

Nice and cheap thats only 85 pence.

Even at 100 Microsoft Points, I don’t think this is worth it. Should be free.

ill take it.The Maw my favourite arcade game!

604 KB Tsk Tsk. I would of bought it if it wasn’t an unlock. I have no problem paying for DLC that is actually made after the game is complete , But on principle I wont buy an unlock or content that is intentionally held back.

Charging for a deleted scene is pretty shady IMO.

thought Major said sometimes in the past that this unlock for money bs will stop

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Umm…wait, WTF???

the maw DLC is ridiculous. I don’t mind if its something like Lost & the Damned, or Shivering Isles but a code for one new level, I guess now if you want to have a cool weapon, clothes, armor, or vehicle, you’re going to have to pay to get what already should be in the game

I’m not going to let Microsoft’s shady business practices stop me from supporting a deserving indie developer by buying the DLC for this game. You guys act like it was Twisted Pixel’s decision to release it this way. You shouldn’t be blaming them for having to play by Microsoft’s rules.

mmm, i dont know, I dont think it’s fair to charge for a “Deleted Scene”, but, well i’ll think about it

i wish Braid had some DLC maybe a new world with a new time power, a continuation that explains the ending, something! I would totally buy that!

Ha who in their right mind would buy this?

Unlock keys are usually 108KB, not 604KB guys.

Was it deleted so it could be re-introduced as paid DLC?

Insta-buy. I’m not even done with The Maw yet.

Did it occur to anyone that “deleted scene” here could just mean “it wasn’t completely working at release?” Look at the price of the game … it’s a very high quality game selling for 800 points during a time when games of half the quality are going for 1200. Maybe this means we could look forward to another 3 “deleted scenes?” I certainly wouldn’t complain about that.

Yes

Why dose the the greater xbox populous continue to take this micro-charging BS from Microsoft??

The game was 800 pts. It was worth 1200. The way I look at it, if I got the game and felt like it wasn’t worth 800 pts, I’m only out 800 pts rather than 1200.

If I really like it, I support the devs that made it by buying their unlock for another 100pts, and I’m still 300 pts ahead of other arcade games.

Oh god, why do they do this? Nickel and dime.

The new 15 point achievement isn’t showing up on xbox.com yet.

The last time I unlocked an achievment when this was happening (Band of Bugs) the points weren’t added to my gamerscore. I had to to an account recovery to an redo the achievement to get them.

New achievement? 100 MS pts. isn’t much, I’ll probably get it.

This is really bad. A deleted scene costs money? Its not even anything new to the game, just a scene! Absolutely ridiculous.

Oh my gosh, some of you people will find anything to complain about. It’s 100 points. I also find it funny you assume this is a MS tactic. If you played the Maw, that game was short. I’m sure TP would have included if it had been ready at launch.

Before you guys keep complaining…

“Deleted scenes” is just a name for the DLC, because the new level takes place inbetween the existing levels (since they can’t continue on from the end of the game) all of the content is made up of 100% new assets which they only started working on AFTER the game was released.

There still working on the rest of the levels which will be coming soon

WinterSnowBlind is correct… I reviewed the original game when it came out and was informed back then that there were 3 more levels that were still in development for DLC due to budget and time constraints of their release schedule. So I contacted TP again today to get the official word on why this DLC is so small, read their CEO’s reply for yourself here…

http://www.teamteabag.com/2009/02/18/first-deleted-scene-dlc-released-for-the-maw/

You know.. all the textures, models etc. are already in the game on your drive. 604KB can contain a lot of code. Remember how 16 bit computers had full games on ~800KB floppies including graphics and music? Sheesh. Chill pill, people.

Ive got the same problem as Mystic, new achievement unlocked but didnt add to my Gamerscore. Dont buy until they fix it. MS need to sort this now! How could this have got through testing?!

@Sup3r Saiy3n

Actually I don’t have the problem… I just noticed the potential for one. Its the first thing I check with DLC after getting bit by the same thing with Band of Bugs.

it was the wrong move for them to title this “deleted scene.” Makes it seem like a rip off even though I’d agree it’s not a rip off.

@Mystic Weirdo
My bad same problem different game, at least u didnt get stung this time eh.

Thanks for clearing that up, OwningXylophone. Good job on getting the word straight for TP’s CEO himself to put the haters in their place! Really people, it’s only 100 measly points and a great game like this deserves the support.

Anybody else besides me think that the title “Deleted Scene” is actually FUNNY? It’s actually meant to be humorous, guys…there’s no such thing as a deleted scene in a video game. It’s the devs sense of humor!

ANy news on when they will fix the gamerscore thing – I unlocked the achievement – but the game still shows as 200/200

I am going to get it because I have some extra points, plus Twisted Pixel deserves it. They work their tails off! If you read some of their developer commentaries they made these extra levels when they couldn’t make changes to the game because it was going through certification. ‘Instead of calling it a day, they focused their energy on making more levels to release later’. More power to them!
Still would have been a hoot if this was a voice supported game. hmmm….http://shellsangels.smackjeeves.com/comics/554179/mic-check/

@COV3RT

There’s nothing wrong with complaining if it’s a valid complaint. The Maw was excellent value and came with a free theme and gamer pic. However there’s no way in hell I’m paying for a “deleted” scene.

I balked at 604KB too but to be honest the idea of it being that is entirely plausible. The models, textures and music are already in the game data, all the download needs to be is a script. Everything else is rendered in-game.
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Also, it is a deleted scene in name only, Twisted Pixel already stated that they didn’t work on these three extra levels until The Maw was sent into the mire of Microsoft’s Certification process.

There’s a problem with the achievement. It unlocked but didnt add to Gamerscore. The game shows only 200/200.

This is a good reason to play the Maw just wish XBLA DLC increased gamer score for that game like normal titles

You people complaining about $1.25 and acting like Microsoft is the devil are just amazing.

I’m going to take a wild guess and say that every one of you was an Obama voter.

The whole Democrat “I deserve something for nothing” attitude is really showing through.

This country is going straight in the toilet, and you people are to blame…

deleted scene lol

Stop trying to turn this into a political argument, troll!

Isn’t this the first game by Twisted Pixel?

@ JoeCool79: The Maw is their first original IP title, but they have been previously contracted to work on NBA Ballers: Chosen One and Blitz the League II. http://www.twistedpixelgames.com/games.htm

I have not purchased The Maw (a friend purchased it and I play it at his place). With this new packet, does it have any more achievements added to the game? If so, I’ll make a mental note to pick it up when I purchase the game for myself. If not, I’ll just wait, even though I truly enjoy the game. Street Fighter IV is HERE! And Capcom did an AWESOME ‘god-like’ job on the controls for this game as I can now actually ‘play effectively’, without my thumb hurting at all!

@UnHoly One
Um.. I want something for nothing, but don’t just give me anything.

@MACPH1ST0
Set aside an hour for Too Human or did you find a stable partner?

I’d like to see more cheap DLC like this, but not if it’s left out or unlocked and already in there.

I like the sound of this so far, perhaps if they made one level free it would be more worth it as the game was very short, but awesome all the same.

100 points for a cutscene? I mean people love to stoop new lows every day. Good grief …

If the Maw DLC achievement bug does get fixed I will not be puchasing any more DLC for the Maw.
I don’t know how MS did not pick this up during certification.

“100 points for a cutscene?”

It’s a whole new level you prick.

Oh, and that bug? That’s not the fault of the game, that’s Microsoft’s for not updating Xbox.com.

Ok, so to fix the 15 point gamerscore glitch, we have either have to wait till it actually shows up on http://www.xbox.com as a game with 13 of 13 achievements? Then either pray it auto-fixes the issue, or we have to do an account recovery? Just out of curiousity, I tried the account recovery, and it removed the achievement. As soon as I ran the game, it immedieatly re-gave the achievement at the start screen, but still no gamerscore credit. Still shows 200 Gs, looked at it with A, and there are 13. listing 200/215 13 of 13 unlocked.

Yeah come on Microsoft, get on the ball and get the achievements updated for this game already! How could you guys possibly release DLC with new achievements without updating that first?

Strange as games like GTA, Fallout, Fable the achievements list is updated well in advance.
Since MS knew weeks in Advance about these achievements it so hard to believe they could let this happen.

MS really drop the ball on this one

It will not be an “auto-fix”…once the system is updated (what you see on xbox.com, or have a friend look at your games played and it lists 13 achvs rather than the current 12), you will then have to update your profile, then, most likely, when you reload the game, you will have to play the level again, and earn the achv a second, or in some idiot’s case who assumed it would be fixed today, THIRD time, and it will “stick”.

These little glitches happen from time to time and are usually due to a lack of communication between the people who upload the achv stuff and the people who set the release date. Big title games are usually taken care of (especially when there are people out there playing the game early…like Halo Wars, Major!), but this has happened on DLC for TimeShift, The Godfather, Band of Bugs, and then of course this one…and I am sure there are more.

@Killer Scuzzy J

If you are correct how can you get the achievement again, since in game achievement are correct 13 from 13

@bknight2k
You’d need to recover your profile first. The achievement list retreived would have only the original 12 unlocked allowing the last one to be earned again.

It looks like the new achievement is showing up on xbox.com now.

im downloading it just today, i loved the game, and im gonna buy every single DLC for this

@MysticWeirdo

Thank you for the info

I blame it all on Obama…

I need to buy The Maw