March 19th 2009 3:01 pm PT

im on windows 7 beta, So what do i do?

We’re sorry, but you won’t be able to download Internet Explorer 8 for Windows 7 Beta at this time.

Windows 7 Beta already includes a pre-release candidate version of Internet Explorer 8 that is optimized for that release. Windows 7 enables unique features and functionality in Internet Explorer 8 including Windows Touch and Jump Lists which require additional product tests to ensure we are providing the best Windows experience for our customers. We will continue to update the version of Internet Explorer 8 running on Windows 7 as the development cycles of Windows 7 progress and plan to include the final version of Internet Explorer 8 in the release candidate version of Windows 7 later this year. For the latest information on Windows 7, visit the Windows 7 site.

It doesn’t run on Ubuntu either which is a good thing. Everyone should be using Firefox any way.

Will never be as good as Firefox.

Nobody says “latest released bits”, Mr. Blogcast or is it Mr. Showgram?

I am so used to Firefox now. That browser won me over.

Unless this is getting released on the 360, I really don’t think it needed plugging on what’s supposed to be a 360 blog. I’m fairly sure SOMEONE else SOMEWHERE in the MS community will find time to post about it.

Granted, it’s a change from posts comprised of just marketplace content listings.

No thanks, Im happy with firefox

A bit off topic Larry, don’t you think? I can see this being on your Twitter feed, but on what amounts to the official Xbox blog, not so much. Are you going to be updating us on new Office releases next? Well, its your blog, so /shrug.

I post what interests me. I think some may find this interesting, and at the very least it’s a reminder to update what EVER browser you are running.

wait, people still use IE?

thanks major… i flux between ie and firefox at home…. good to know 8 is out….

I can’t find it on Xbox Marketplace, also is it gonna cost 1200 points? I hope it is 400 points, 1200 points is a rip off!

“Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage”. Is there another link or mirrors, this is saturated?

IE is the WORST browser in the world!!!!!!!!!!

lol IE … I’ll stick to Firefox, thanks.

BrooksterMax:
That was awesome!!

well, thanks for the heads-up, I hope IE8 is more W3 compliant, cause IE6 has made the life of web developers worldwide miserable.
to call IE the worst browser, nah, but let’s just say web developers really hate IE6.

Stolen from Slashdot:

You know that kid who rushes to the top of the hill, just knowing that he’s finally going to win King of the Hill for the first time ever? Then when he gets to the top of the hill, he’s elated when he realizes he’s at the top… only to realize a few moments later that all the other kids ran up a different hill?

That’s Microsoft.

using Chrome and Safari 4. Thanks anyway.

So does IE finally meet the CSS standards for padding and margins?

IE7 has already improved our web dev time tremendously over the IE6 problems. IE8 I think is supposed to be more compliant with web standards.

And I like the general tech update now and then, but then I am a web developer, so *shrug*

Firefox for me….. Is MS considering making IE subscription based? Paying for LIVE is the biggest rip off ever! It’s not even utilizing dedicated servers so we pay for lag….
Expecting a paid browser is no stretch of the imagination.

Firefox for Life!

No thanks. too bad IE6 does not work on Vista.

I actually like IE8 and think it’s a good improvement over IE7, but it’s still a bit slow compared to some of the lighter-weight browsers. Why IE? Because it integrates nicely with Windows…and I don’t have any scratch-my-head moments like I’ve had trying to get things to work in Chrome or other browsers.

no thx – Firefox is 10x better.

Its awful. Removed the sleek look of the tabs in IE7 and replaced it with a very Windows 2000′esque square sharp edges style.

Not only that but its littered with cluttering features. And to top things off when you open a new tab it takes a few seconds to do it, in IE7 its almost instant.

No thanks – reverted

all I can say… pwn2own… all browsers failed.

Also Major, wheres the Midnight Club DLC which is meant to be out today??

I use my Safari…….
my MacBook Pro runs good wit it…

No thanks, Opera is the shit. Typical MS.

I wanted IE8 to be good, but it’s VERY dissapointing. Not even close to as fast as the new Chrome beta I downloaded, and still playing catchup on many features that are already in Firefox. “accellerators” is an OK idea, but is also basically already in firefox, and there aren’t any good ones as of now anyway.

Good hopefully now they’ll update MS Money so that the reports work in IE8.

I had the BETA for IE8 but I LOVE GOOGLE CHROME… Now i am on that and it will take a lot to get me off

Google Chrome will change your life

i use Firefox as my default i just dont trust IE to many attacks “virus” already on it and well i just dont like how IE is bind to the OS its abit close to the OS core also i just like how the Firefox pop up control to a tab instead to a new window

Well…. Just downloaded Opera lets see how it goes

The only thing IE is good for is getting Windows Updates. IE7 is/was a turd, just like IE6. can’t stand IE.

FireFox is the only browser that is worth using, followed by Opera.

Never going to beat Firefox.

I’m in the silent majority. I like Internet Explorer. Never had any problems with it.

Thanks Major, I will try this out!

DevsterC, this isn’t an official 360 site. It’s Larry Hyrb’s blog. He can post about anything he wants, from the latest game to a movie he saw. Of course, since he’s the inside man at Xbox 99.9% of his posts are going to be baout the 360. Though he usually keeps the other stuff to his Twitter feed on the left.

Still on Firefox. I tried Chrome last night but I couldn’t get into it. It just didn’t look “right”, and not being able to scroll by clicking the mouse wheel = fail, I’ve been doing that for years.
Still, I’ll give IE8 a go and see what I think.

I downloaded it, and it looks really good, only thing is like images won’t show, but I am sure it will get fixed.

I find it humorous that their browser test video didn’t include Opera…hehe. IE has actually been fairly quick for several versions now, but usually not quite Opera quick.

Yeah IE 8 is out I’m one of the few thousand of testers that been bug bashing for 8+ months Finally IE running better than it ever has before.

Ill stick with my Firefox, the addons really do it for me.

Windows 7 beta included IE8 Beta not IE8 final release. You can install IE8 final in Windows 7 Beta.

pass, Chrome is free, IE8 probably will cost 1600MS points, lol.

Thanks for the notice Major.

Ever since Firefox became bloated and implemented scrolling tabs and that god-awful Smart address bar I’ve resorted to v2 and even then rarely if ever use it.

Great work to the Dev guys working on this. great step in IE.

and for all the people bashing IE 8 with out even trying it… grow up
(not a Microsoft fan boy, posting this comment in chrome)

IE8 seems to be a great improvement over IE7 … i never understood why people used anything other than IE that comes with Windows (except for the losers that hate everything Microsoft do … for NO reason)

thanks for the heads up Major

gonna stick with firefox, tired of half-assed microcrap(vista ftl)

um…yeah…I’ve installed IE8 on my Vista 64-bit and gave it a try. My MySpace page doesn’t view correctly, just like IE7, takes much longer to load my Google homepage, same with MSN, and the UI is ugly & nowhere near matching Vista’s standard Aero theme. Thanks for the heads up, but it’s Firefox FTW.

Go firefox!

only an idiot would run IE

its like norton, does much more harm than good.

yes i love my 360, but ms can take IE and shove it up they asses

Downloaded it, with the intention to never use it, just so it’s there. For some reason it has slowed down my computer, every time I minimize anything it slowly does it (Q6600, 4gb ram, 9800gtx+) & this only happened the second after I installed IE8 and restarted…hmm, still trying to fix it now.

IE 8 is a excellent update. Thanks for the news Major.

Man for a second I thought this was finally announcing a browser for the xbox.

Its a nice improvement … but Im still getting back to firefox

Internet explorer user here for life! Im gonna have to try this IE 8 now!

I am using Opera its the best browser cuz he has no secret holes…firefox does and IE is one of the browsers with the most secret holes.But thx for the info major…i will update it but won´t use it…anyway…maybe some secret holes will be closed

i meant security holes not secret holes^^ sry for my english

If you enable compatibility mode for ALL websites in IE8, you don’t get any formatting problems.

@AriesDog – The idea it’s not an official 360 site is nonsense, regardless of whatever appearances of a demarcation people wish to believe. MN is the spokesperson TO the community for MS, and this is his primary forum for that activity (major’s minute and twitter being the other two that have any real visibility), whether centracomm hosts it or MS hosted it off xbox.com.

And it’s great you like IE. I don’t care what browser people use – it just is so far off topic for an xbox360 ‘blog’. Look through the history – MN said in this very thread “I post what interests me.”, but based on the last couple years that’s been reduced to predominantly DLC content lists, press release-type statements or top 10 lists, and his podcast. Plus now IE8 announcements, Windows 7 announcements perhaps…

It’s too bad the only MS crew who actually blogged were let go.

I have seen a lot of websites that don’t like IE8 yet so you have to click the “compatibility mode” button if a website seems broken. I will recommend against upgrading to IE8 for a while to my less computer savvy clients and I think I will stick to Firefox or Chrome for myself. I haven’t used IE since version 5.5 unless I *HAD* to for particular websites. Thanks for the update anyway MN!

I’ve stopped using Internet Explorer since I upgraded from Windows 98 to Windows XP. FireFox FTW!

I’ve been trying to install IE8 for hours…I’ve given up after it failing on the install no less than 12 times. Even after doing all the stuff in the troubleshooter and all. Ugh…

Only interested if it can be added to and run on 360.

Why would you want a browser for a console? I mean, do you want worms and other viruses infested your system?

Thank’s for that but i do not like IE Firefox 3 is still better, as for speed loading times i do not really care over one second or what ever.

When can we expect web browsing on 360? Even wii can do that…

I am downloading as I type It will be interesting to see if IE 8 has got the web standards right instead of trying to fight the existing ones. I use IE 7 at work but at home I generally use firefox, I do however have the following browsers installed and use them for various sites.
Firefox, Flock, Chrome, IE and Opera. As a web developer it is good practice to ensure your websie works in all browsers not just YOUR favourite. In fact you would be pretty stupid not to develop anything for IE considering it is preinstalled on most home computers sold in the world.

Yes IE has its faults but so does every other browser, I think a lot of the negativity against IE is just people following the crowd, kinda like sheep. And before everyone jumps on me and says that IE is unsecure and lets viruses attack, I would just like to point out that firefox is afflicted with the same kind of bugs and flaws that are always being exploited by someone.

@ SalamanderSkill

I remember when netscape was the only browser worth using and waaay back then IE was a welcome change. But as for cost I paid for opera and I even paid for my premium hotmail account. Things like this have not always been free. Its not bad considering it cost microsoft $100 million every year towards the end of the year with nearly 1200 people working on it!

Eh, I’ll stick with Firefox since it’s generally faster.

Wow, IE8 is horrible. I open it and pages just DON’T LOAD. It only works when I open it with Microsoft Update, then it slows everything else.

@Exu

Its a Microsoft product, what do you expected?, a quality product, no sir, no with MS.

FireFox FTW, even Chrome is way better.

Downloaded and using it now to post this.
There are so many people bashing M$ on here it’s ridiculous. If you don’t like what they do then why the hell are you on here, a Microsoft employees blog of all things.
I have used IE for a long time now and IE8 is a welcome update.
All the stuff that Firefox does IE can do now too, and somthings it does better.
I too dabble in web design and have used most of the major browsers and I still prefer IE, but, each to their own.
As for people having slow loads times or pages not loading at all, I just don’t get it.
I downloaded, installed, rebooted and it runs just fine (Vista 32bit).
And Major….. keep posting about stuff like this please.

I’m on XP here. But yeah, personally I still prefer Firefox.

T360UK CHIEF said : “All the stuff that Firefox does IE can do now too, and somthings it does better.”

Exactly. Well said. It is better than Firefox, and you can add Cool Iris to it as well.

I think everyone should at least try it out before you bash it. Most of the comments on here are sooooo fanboyish towards Firefox. Clearly its a better product, plus its free. I’ve already made the switch back to IE8 from Firefox 3

Just my two cents but after downloading IE8 and using it for a bit I noticed IE8 is slower than Firefox.

@ Chico DeBarge

I had never heard of CoolIris until you posted about it here and I have to say that is one damn cool plugin!!!
Thanks!

I use Firefox as well, but IE8 holds itself rather well.
I can honestly say that the issues I have with IE8 on XP are not there in Windows7, so I am guessing because IE8 is integrated directly into Windows7 it allows certain things to be rectified. Most of my issues are with performance, and the few that aren’t are relating to the OS handling the browser, so it seems to me that in my situation it’s all dealing with the integration factor, not necessarily the browser itself.

Using it now.

Safari is doing me fine. If I struggle I use Firefox. This is because Microsoft spat the dummy out the pram and stopped making IE for Mac OS. In hindsight, it’s probably made Mac OS safer.

A 360 blog advertising another Microsoft project…OK then.