August 18th 2009 8:58 am PT

Rockstar Table Tennis is an outstanding game! Might have to pick it up again, it’s one of the very best local multiplayer games on the Xbox 360 (in my opinion).

I wouldn’t get it via Games on Demand, mind you. I’m all for digital distribution, but Rockstar Table Tennis is available for under £5 here in the UK.

Please do not buy this stuff.

If you do, your basically saying its ok to charge over the top prices for games you can buy second hand for half the price. If you buy them second hand you have the option of installing them to the HDD or running from the disc. You also have the option to sell them on again if you so wish.

i think Rockstars table tennis was already up for UK,£19.99 like the rest of the titles

i bought it as a 2 for £20 deal when it was first released back in 2006

Overpriced, and some regions getting shafted with no new games. Why i am not surprised ?

Lower the prices!

Major, I think the box art is wrong. It should be the original Saints Row. Also, the marketplace is showing the price as 2400 points not 3000.

I agress WAYYYY overprcied. Also when I click on the Saints Row link I am taken to Saints Row 2….anyone else have that issue? Which one are they trying to sell and promote, Saints Row 1 or 2???? another MS SNAFU

The box art and both links are for Saint’s Row 2, but it’s the first Saint’s Row that’s in Games on Demand now. Also since they’re both $30 each(wtf?), then shouldn’t their point values both be 2400 points? Not sure why only the Japan availability is listed for Table Tennis when it’s available in the US marketplace too.

Like all games on the UK marketplace Table Tennis is £20, I picket up Table Tennis new for £4 back in 2007. It was released as a budget priced game back in 2006 and could be picked up for £20-£25 so it seems pretty stupid having it at the same price as everything else. Mind you compared to the stupidity of the Avatar Marketplace pricing it almost seems like a good deal.

Too bad Rockstar Table Tennis is only available to Japan. That was a great game!

Just wondering if those games are being well received by the general user. For me, the prices aren’t that reasonable but anyhow, maybe it’s just me…go figure.
But 3000MSP por SR1? That would be like what? USD35.00?
Just got SR2 Collector’s Edition for USD 39.90 from somewhere else.
What a GREAT deal on SR1, huh??? LOL

Prices are ridiculous, have a word with yourselves.

Digital downloads at nearly 4x the price of a physical copy, BOO YAH…………weeeeoooooo ONLY ON XBOX360.

Do the XBLA team think we are all mental or something?, or are they just living in some parallel universe where people think paying 4x the price for a digital copy is a good deal?

I’ll take some of what they are smoking please

HOW MUCH?!?

I bought Saints Row just over 2 years ago for £15 (just under $25 at todays rates), and its currently available for under £10 (SR2 is under £15). As for Table Tennis, as others have said, its been available for £5 for quite a while.

These Games on Demand prices are ridiculous and will only gather a very small number of sales from people who don’t realise that the actual boxed copy of the game is cheaper in every single case.

I’m just echoing what most people are saying. Why the hiked up prices for old games that retail at a fraction of the cost?

I reckon the party line that would be towed in reference to the prices would be…..

“Well they are a fraction of the recommended retail price”

Which of course is true in most cases, however, I can’t remember the last time I paid anywhere near close to a recommended retail price.

Until digital downloads are on par, below prices of retail games (hey – some new games are cheaper than this service!), I see no reason to make use of a service.

Adjust the prices – Assassin’s Creed – £19.99? It was like £8 new on Play.com not too long ago. Pretty much the same can be said for the rest.

I agree with everyone else. These prices are ridiculous. Only a fool would spend MORE money for a DRM-encumbered product. Don’t buy these games! You get a better product and a lower price if you buy a used copy from Amazon.com or eBay.

3000 pts for Saints Row, what a joke when you can find that game elsewhere for around $5. they must think all Live members are morons to pay those prices. Please who ever is in charge of Games On Demand wake up & realize that these prices are outrageous.

I don’t want to sound awful here Major, but you do realise that you posted the boxart for Saints Row 2, where the game is clearly Saints Row 1?

Please MS, bring these games to Europe too, as well as BioShock. Pretty please…

Here in The Netherlands all the games are 2400MSP (around 30€), which I find somewhat reasonable and I may want to purhcase a few of the titles that I don’t yet have.

On a personal note: One thing I think is a bit weird though is that the new Marketplace defaults to Credit Card use as opposed to buying with points for GoD. Pressing Y shows the other way, I know from this week’s show.
I think it should default the other way around (In Europe most of us buy with point cards from my experience). Or, even better, it should show both prices at once with both options on the same screen. That will make the whole process more obvious than it is now.

Oops my mistake. The game is SR2. The title is wrong though…sorry

Microsoft: Please fire your economists and hire some people that are more customer oriented and customer focused. These prices are ridiculous and the only way I could see them being justified is by a supply/demand/price curve that shows that fewer copies sold at an OUTRAGEOUS price is somehow “better” than more copies sold at a lower price to more people. The difference between those two is that the first one is designed to squeeze every last freaking penny out of people. The second is designed to get the game out there to as many people as possible and provide them incentive to buy the games on demand.

As a gamer and as a customer, the second option is far better where the first option makes me think that Microsoft feels that gamers are stupid and are willing to pay outrageous prices. Maybe some are, but is that really the group of “gamers” that you want to cater to? Lovely.

I’d actually be very interested see hear just what the XBLA team expect their demographic to be, and if that demographic was the result of a decent level of market research, or the musings of 1000 monkeys handcuffed to a 1000 typewriters.

I just don’t know who these GoD’s will appeal to.

Sure, they’d appeal to a large number of people if they were competitively priced, but they aren’t.

Sure, having the ability to download a game there and then is a good thing, but 99% of online suppliers offer next day delivery, I can’t imagine people can’t wait one day to get a game.

Then there is the HDD space issue, with the largest HDD being 120GB, space is a premium, plus they are bloody expensive, so you are limited their.

Can someone offer any advantages with the GoD system at all?, I am struggling with the concept here, it smacks of a massive, massive fail.

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/918089/Table-Tennis/Product.html?ptsl=1&ob=Price&fb=0

enough said, i can get 7 copies of table tennis for the price microsoft charge hahaha, no chance.

I updated the links. Pro Tip: Don’t build a blog post at 3am with a lot of links!

I really enjoyed Table Tennis as one of my first games when I bought my X360 a couple months ago but 2000 Points is so expensive. I bought it for less than 10 Euro in a BlockBuster store.
I like a lot the Marketplace and I’m crazy for a lot of XBLA. Ok, sometimes prices are not well balanced (but, hey, Shadow Complex will be a real deal tomorrow!) but overall they are not bad. But Games On Demand platform is really overpriced, no deal on games. Almost all the titles are on deal every month in every store.

I hope something will change. Otherwise, I’m not interested actually.

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/3344867/Saints-Row/Product.html

and saints row for you guys, also with buying these games from the shop/online you get to re-sell and save hard drive space, you can also lend games too and from your friends.

Add my name to the list of people disappointed with the GoD pricing structure.

The only way a GoD game should cost more than the retail version is if it includes more content. For example, it includes all of the DLC.

More suggestions:
1) Annually slash the prices on DLC for games older than one year. (1st year 50%, 2nd year 75%, 3rd year free) Are there significant enough sales to keep items such as 2006′s Kameo Power Pack a 400 MS Points? You can find a used copy of the game for less than $6.
2) Annually discount XBLA games that are older than 1 year and/or based on sales figures. Why let them rot on the vine when dropping the price by 25% to 50% would capture more sales?
3) The Deal of the Week should only involve games and DLC released within the last year. Discounting food after it’s best before date is not really a deal.

I must admit, I am another one who thinks these are overpriced unfortunately. While there are some good games on there, I don’t think I have seen one yet that I would not be able to buy cheaper instore, let alone on line.

When the feature was announced, I was thinking it would be great for perhaps some impulse purchases, but not at this price.

It would also be really interesting to see the ‘charts’ for these, might that be possible perhaps?

hi, Oatmeal!

I read through the posts just in case there was a satisfied customer in the bunch, but did not see one. I also noticed there was no discussion on MN this week about the prices of this content. Usually Major is the one to defend marketing so we have to take his word on these decisions. Hopefully prices will drop on future titles.

Yea Microsoft needs to rethink how they do these games on demand, for one the games they have added are all outdated and for two they wy over priced. You can goto pretty much any used game store and get them for a fraction of what they are charging plus you actually have a case\booklet\disk. They need to lower the prices drasticly I mean its not packaged or shipped to retailers or anything so cost is way down but Microsofts prices are way up lol makes sense I guess if your rich and greedy billionaires who in the last few years wanna nickle and dime people out of there hard earned cash. In the end I guess theres just no end to Microsofts greed.

Oh by the way since games on demand has launched is there any chance microsoft gonna come off a bigger harddrive then the 120gb because with all you can do now like installing games to hdd and now games on demand its no better then having a 20gb hdd.

WTF!

Hah, in my Google Reader it had the Saints Row 2 cover art.

MS should undercut their own platinum hits titles by 5.00 at retail. The lack of a box, disc and manual warrants that at least. Maybe even 10.00. Then people would start buying more games, they would start selling a ton more 120 gig drives.

Larry, you and your crack team of Marketing dopes are absolutely bonkers if you think paying 3000 points (***FORTY US DOLLARS***) for a 3 year old game. You may have been able to get away with charging 1200 points for “Xbox Originals” but this… this is the height of IDIOCY.

I recently bought Saint’s Row new and sealed in Best Buy for $9.99. Yet you charge $29.99 for something that costs less to produce that a physical copy? Where is the logic in this? If anything, Games on Demand should be cheaper than the lowest retail prices. You know, as an incentive to get people to pick them over a physical copy.

I’ve said this a lot at this stage, but this is why the Xbox Original download service failed.
People just aren’t dumb enough to pay inflated prices for games available at retail. They sure didn’t pay 1200pts for XBOs

Please learn from Steam, have sales (that part you are already starting to do, and we love you for it) AND drop the price over time.
A game that is a few years old, has a successful sequel, and can be purchased almost anywhere for under $19.99… don’t charge $39.99 for it (CAD prices). You guys need to play some more with your SRP, as no one is holding to it, because the game doesn’t sell at it.
I wouldn’t expect you to charge used game prices for a physical copy of the game, but because there is no sell back option on these, and there IS a physical copy option… you can’t charge full price. Sorry, it just doesn’t fly with the vast majority of users.

So again, Please Please Please, learn from steam already. GFW nearly died because you didn’t learn there, don’t let a great idea die due to poor implementation.

Major,

I really want to use this service, what benefits could be had by having my games stored completely on the hard drive so I don’t have to lug them around with my xbox and have to worry about accidentally ruining my discs.

But, THIS PRICING IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD almost to the point of being INSULTING!!! When I can go to a big box retailer, buy the same game for half the price AND get the box and manual, the costs far outweigh the benefits. Microsoft is on the leading edge of a huge reform in software distribution for consoles, but this service need to reflect savings for customers NOT a premium. Charge $55 for a new game, charge used pricing for old games (then the devs still get paid), charge used prices for original games (devs still get paid). Everyone PROFITS!!!

Wow overpriced.

HAHAHAHAH! 3000 point!? You are selling this for almost DOUBLE retail price. Get a grip on reality.

Games on Demand is CRAP! Seriously? $37.50 for Saints Row… That’s highway robbery, especially in this economy. Amazon has this for $17.49. Retail price is $19.99.

Anyone considering buying this game, just go here: http://www.amazon.com/Saints-Row-Xbox-360/dp/B000BLM5PG/

Blah blah blah pricing fail yak yak yak beat a dead horse…what I really wanted to say is that the description on Table Tennis has got me clamoring to give it a try!

The funny thing is, these games should be far less than retail price for a new game on disc. Let’s look at the expenses that are avoided when sold via Games on Demand.
* They don’t have to press the disc.
* They don’t have to print the manual.
* They don’t have to waste the plastic to manufacture the case
* They don’t have to ship this to a distributor/retail chain
* They don’t have to give said retail chain a cut on the profits.

The ONLY thing they have to pay for instead is the bandwidth necessary to send you the game! This is Microsoft taking advantage of peopl. Plain and simple.

Blah blah blah pricing fail yak yak yak beat a dead horse…what I really wanted to say is that the description on Table Tennis has got me clamoring to give it a try!

Blah blah blah pricing fail yak yak yak beat a dead horse…what I really wanted to say is that the description on Table Tennis has got me clamoring to give it a try!

Arg, d**nit, why the triple oists? I apologize, everyone.

Just for Info: Rockstar Table Tennis is *not* 2000 MS-Points, but 2400 Points – at least here in Germany…

This is what is listed at amazon and you expect us to pay this for a download. LOL

Saints Row
Other products by THQ
Platform: Xbox 360 | ESRB Rating: Mature
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List Price: $19.99
Price: $17.49 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details
You Save: $2.50 (13%)

30 new from $12.98 63 used from $4.67 2 collectible from $10.99

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A1205&_nkw=rockstar+table+tennis+xbox&_dmpt=Video_Games_Games&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=15&_sc=1

Haha. $30 for a game that’s over 3 years old. These prices are STUPID.

I’m going to have to join in with those shaking my head at these prices. Microsoft, I know you want to recoup your losses from the sheer number of system failures you’ve had to repair… but treating us like gullible marketing statistics isn’t the way to do it. Please give us realistic pricing for Games on Demand, and offer Deals of the Week on things that our friends won’t laugh at us for buying. We’re human beings with limited (as in, not infinite) money available for our hobby… if you offer a bad deal or set ridiculous prices, we’ll take our money elsewhere.

MAJOR !! Please pass on our comments. THESE GAMES ARE FIVE ENGLISH POUNDS THESE DAYS ! Sorry for shouting, but this is just silly. Still, folks will vote with their wallets i hope.

Thief000, why do you want to let yourself get ripped off by Microsoft? Just shop online and save enough money for an extra game (or two).

My guess is Microsoft is worried about multiple downloads per purchased GoD title. If that’s the case, we’re paying for Microsoft’s ineptitude, inability to think ahead and greed that’ve been clearly visible in the HDD-less Arcade, tiny HDDs on the Pro/Premium and Elite 360′s and the insane cost of separate HDDs.
Maybe Sony’s PS3 price drop and “new” SKUs will change things.

ImaginedBug is right, the hard disk capacity will be an issue in no time. I’d like to buy a 120GB one but, c’mon… 100-120 Euro is too much. 40-50 euro (about 35-45 £) would be a good deal for me.
If the X360 PRO will be out of production and the Elite will take the actual PRO price I really hope that the 120GB will drop too!

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=020298 Uh oh better listen to the masses and lower some prices on some things.M$ is no longer the most affordable HD console on the market…

Lower the damn prices.

@SHAT7ERD: Let’s wait until tomorrow before saying things like that, hm?

Table Tennis is 2400MSP here. Or £4.98 in GAME, brand new. Decisions decisions.

WOW! $39.99 for a digital Platinum Hit title that Amazon.ca sells physically for $20.

WOW! Somebody’s been using the pricing dartboard again, huh?

I’ve waited 3 years since I first rented Saints Row (6 Sep 2006) to play it again. I think I can wait another 3 days for a parcel to arrive in my mailbox, so unfortunately the “instant access” argument doesn’t carry very far for the GoD.

So… exactly what argument is offered for GoD to benefit Live customers? Unless you’re consistently $5 cheaper than a physical retail copy, I think the publishers are missing the boat here.

Yeah, the prices ARE too high for these. The convenience of digital downloading isn’t worth THAT much of a price hike over a retail copy.

Also, I’m confused, are the downloads ALL going to be available in Points format now? I looked at some of the original Games on Demand titles (e.g. Call of Duty 2) and saw they were still listed in Actual $$. I know when the “Actual Cash Value” option was announced as an upcoming feature, it was said that buyers would have the option of using points OR doing it by cash transaction, but I don’t see that on the earlier titles yet.

Everyone vote with your wallets please. These prices are insane.

Also, Gamer pics, themes and avatar clothing should be free. Its advertising!! We already pay for a subscription M$. We’re getting robbed.

Hmmm…. Man you guys are going a bit overboard. IF the game is cheaper elsewhere, don’t you think you ought to go there to (the cheaper place) and get it? My friend in Cleveland has to drive about 3 hours to get to Wal Mart to JUST buy a game, retail price.

Now if these Games on Demand prices were for Crackdown 2, Assassin’s Creed 2, Gears of War 2, etc, while the retail of each were $59.99, I really do not think any of us would have any issues. You do not have to buy those games. The lot there is, there is only ONE, I’d purchase happily, which is Stubbs the Zombie in Rebel Without a Pulse as that is a hard to find game – even on eBay.

As for Saints Row, I bought it, played it, tried to enjoy it, but the cursing was too much for me – TWICE over. I bought it for like $19.99 brand new and actually gave it to a friend the last time I visited him.

Major,

I am sorry to be boring but this is an epic fail. If this was a method by which to try and negate the 2nd hand games market then it won’t work. For all the reasons others have stated here – a) the prices are out of touch with reality and because of this, it seems like our intelligence is being insulted somewhat. Particularly when you can buy so many of those titles with a physical DVD, manual etc at a cheaper price.

If MSFT want to make digital distribution compelling – then make it compelling. I’m lazy. I’m a gaming couch potato but, particularly in a recession, I’m not going to pay more for the convenience of staying at home to receive less product. That isn’t compelling.

Get the pricing right and I am sure this will be a winner. I’m also sure you will leverage additional HDD sales out of it also. Make it a win-win and the folks will come.

I’m having a real hard time understanding the price structure. I would have no issue buying a digital version but if its available at about half the price in store then I can certainly say that this MS initiative has no chance is surviving. Who approved the business case for this one?

Also if you guys are only going to release 2 a week, that will make for a long ramp up and will definitely drive people to go out and buy the disc.

But seriously just admit the mistake and get competitive with the pricing.

Major, I know given the entire history of Microsoft NEVER going back or even reducing prices on the marketplace, seriously here every one has to question the mentality of your accounting department on these price points again.
I commented on my podcast this week that we will really see on tuesday as in your blog post you said, “were looking into it”, just how genuinely MS actually were looking into it…what happens, there actually MORE expensive.

And what really baffles me, we have seen just what a resounding failure the original xbox download titles were, you know what Major, the time really has come for MS to actually show they made a mistake, and do the right thing here, and reduce prices , not only on these GOD’S, but the ludicrous avatar clothing prices to, really your customers will not see it as an embarrassing failure, what it will show us, is great respect in admitting “you made a genuine mistake”, but now its being rectified.

Truly as post after post is showing you clearly these prices are WAY off the mark all around the world, My friends and I are asking just one simple question in all this…do the powers that be at MS, really live in the “real world”, when it comes to price points, or do they just spend to much time in the office all day and make prices up as they go along.

Anyone can see this is just plain and simply WRONG, no one and I repeat no one will buy something they can go and get for cheaper, and in many cases, were not talking a few pennies here either, were talking pounds.
The internet has become a vast buyers paradise, were bargains can be hunted out in seconds, so why on earth is Microsoft pricing themselves out of that market, lets get one thing straight as well, I really think MS have made a terrible misjudgment in the fact that we all think the “digital download” is better, I can tell you right now..”convenience”, isnt worth the stupid prices MS have worked out here, not by a long way.

Again my final point, Also, were was the common sense again when deciding on these titles..why not put DLC included, or special editions, say like oblivions extra content, that would at least make them slightly different to the retail games…but again you see, these are the kind of things, “real ” gamers think of doing, and MS just dont seem to comprehend.

Time has come to actually admit MS made a mistake, rectify it now , before the great potential of the GOD’S dies in the water just like the xbox 1 titles did.

Why do people keep getting pissed at Major Nelson? Whos just the guy whos posts this stuff! Sure he can give them feedback but some of you directly attack him and stuff. Thats kind of weird. If it wasn’t for him you wouldn’t know about some things.

@ Assassin

Mate – not pissed at Major at all. But this portal is the feedback interface and Major really has made himself that interface. Major gets quite a lot of decent exposure/PR/free games etc as a result of his MSFT role/job/profile – hell he even has his own wiki page! I’m sure Major’s big and tough enough to take the good and bad together and know that feedback directed towards him in here is actually towards the company rather than him personally ! I have a rule – don’t shhot the messenger and in this case, Major is the messenger.

I personally think that much of the feedback on this topic has been fairly constructive. I can’t see anything where Major has been “attacked”. People have the right to praise and/or constructively criticise where they see fit. That gets us all a better service. In this case, the pricing is out of touch with reality. That’s all that’s being said. No-one said Major came up with it and no-one is attacking anyone. Just criticising what is, on the face of it, a stupid pricing policy. Also comes as part an update that seemed geared towards grabbing more cash out of us in general.

@ Assassin

Additionally mate – remember when your customer is treated as a cash cow and with contempt (and the online pricing for this stuff is contemptful and an insult to anyones intelligence) then they desert you. XBL has been a phenomenal success but I would caution against arrogance and the – understandably tempting – desire to fleece as much out of your customer as possible.

Everyone on here is basically screaming “Please Microsoft. Don’t treat me like an idiot. I can get those games cheaper elsewhere. Do you think I am stupid? That I can be parted with cash so easily? That you take me for granted?” That’s what I am hearing loud and clear from the feedback. A sensible organisation that values it’s customer and shows some humility would do well to listen. There are plenty of arrogant companies who fail to that crash and burn along the way.

Anyway – now the positive. Trials HD. F’ing awesome game. Well worth 1200 points (first time – battlefield excepted – where I really felt like I got my moneys worth). All must go buy Trials HD !

@ All

On a lighter note, how about we request a change of title from “Games on demand” to “Games with no demand”

With the economy as bad as it is, you’d think the marketing department would not try so hard to get themselves fired with these ridiculous prices.

Is it too much to ask that MSFT don’t try rip us off first time around? We get ripped off like this in Australia at retail, now most gamers here import their games. I buy new games on Ebay for between 1/2 and 1/3 the price of retail.

OVER PRICED.

Change your motto to “Lower Avatar Prices!” or “Lower G.O.D Prices”
This overpriced BS cant go on.

If they’d just make gamer pics, themes and ALL avatar clothing free (They’re charging us to see their advertising – doesnt make sense at all). Then reduce the price of Games on Demand to more rational levels, we’d all be happy. Stop being money vampires and do the right thing MSFT! PC gaming and, heaven forbid, the PS3 are sounding more economical than the xbox.

Everyone is chatting about this ad nauseam, but…I was actually VERY excited initially by the GoD concept, very curious about the line up too. Pricing simply killed it for me. I was going to buy BioShock (who’s not out in the EU market anyway), but paying 30 euros for it is just stupid, when I can buy it BRAND new on Amazon for 20, and sell it for 10 when done with it, for a final cost of 10 euros. I understand that downloading games is a luxury, I’d agree to paying the same prices as online, but not 50% more, that’s simply armed robbery.

It has been said over and over again but just speak with your wallet. I’ve had a 360 for four years now and looking back at my purchase history, here’s how my wallet spoke:

2006: total expenditure of 6,840 points
2007: total expenditure of 8,440 points
2008: total expenditure of 2,500 points
2009: total expenditure of 2,950 points

Go figure.

I created an account here simply to say that I am 100% certain that I and nobody on my friends list will be stupid enough to use Games on Demand at these prices.

I mean seriously. OVERPRICED AVATAR ITEMS, OVERPRICED ARCADE GAMES, OVERPRICED GAMES ON DEMAND and OVERPRICED THEMES/GAMERPICTURES. This, in a service we STILL have to pay £40 a year for and soon you’re gonna be adding ADVERTS to our dashboards?!!?

Every single day the PS3 starts looking a better option.

Microsoft really loves to push people. Lower the prices of these Games on Demand and the hardrive.

OVER PRICED.

Change your motto to “Lower Avatar Prices!” or “Lower G.O.D Prices”

This overpriced BS cant go on.

To be honest, I am not too bothered about the avatar prices, I know I probably won’t be buying them,but if I wanted something, I would get it…
The thing is for that, you’ve not got a choice, but you have for the GoD, and at the mo, however much I would like to use it, I’m not going to at the price. However, something I have thought of, if you could get these on a sort of rental basis, then may be if the price was right, I would love such a service…. Thing is, would it be at a decent price..

If this is how MS is considering deploying digital content next gen, I’m out. Anything in the Platinum Hits catalog should be $5 less than retail, at a minimum, to compensate for the lack of manual and non-trade-ability. Epic fail on this gauging/gouging experiment (that’s not a typo – MS is gauging sales, while simultaneously gouging customers).

Velox Equitatus: we already get ads…

oAssassin Xo: He’s the “Director of Programming for Xbox Live”, he deserves to hear this.

$30 for the original saints row? Are you guys off your rockers??

Digital Distribution = CHEAPER than retail. CHEAPER! How hard is that to understand? We know damn well the money you guys AREN’T having to spend just selling digital copies of this. We expect those savings passed on to us.

I’m a fan of digital distribution but not when you guys are purposely trying to screw over your customers like this.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4026011

Too expensive. They are $19.99 at Target, or $6.99 used at Gamestop.

Twilight Now: over here in the Netherlands there are no ads on the dash. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are only a few territories that do have them as the market in Europe is too splintered

Major, could you try to talk to someone in charge of the pricing and let us know what possesses them to charge (for example) $19.99 for BF:BC in the US and €29.99 (equivalent of $43!) in the Netherlands? It’d be nice to at least get an official word on why Microsoft doesn’t want to sell these games. Why else would the prices be so ridiculously high and have such huge differences per region?
I know there was something about each region setting its own prices, but doesn’t anyone at Microsoft think that’s strange and counter-productive?

I got Rockstar Table Tennis at PC World Basingstoke last October for £4.97. Come on, Microsoft, time for a re-think. I wouldn’t mind giving Games on Demand a go, but not at these prices.

I had to remind myself how bad the pricing was by looking yesterday… $69.95 Australian Dollars (around 35 GBP) for Table Tennis. I also noted that you are only one inadvertant button press away from selecting this if your CC details are on your machine.

On a positive note….spend your cash on Shadow Complex. Now that is VFM IMO !