October 8th 2009 11:03 am PT

Just waiting for the comments about them being too expensive (which is pretty fair here).

320 MS Points!?!?!?!

320 points!!?

Ouchie!

The NFL nerds will lap them up though.

How about some Premier League football shirts?? ( Football not Soccer )

320 points? Really? UGH…went to the Marketplace with every intention on buying a Bills jersey..for 320 points though, I’ll pass. Thanks!!!!

these are too expensive (just doing my part)

but seriously they aren’t as expensive as I thought they would be

Yowzers, that IS pricey. Will probably still sell in droves though, so I can see why.

Can we get some NCAA action? I don’t care if it’s football or basketball.

So it looks like Microsoft is going the way of EA with micro transactions? Also, this reminds me of some horse armor.

For people wanting other sports, you’ll probably see those closer to the release of those sports’ games. Might get NBA or FIFA related ones soon, NCAA, MLB & probably NHL next year would be my guess.

These are too expensive – will pass!

Although I am not the type of person to buy themes or gamerpics, or even avatar clothes, I jumped on this even though it is $4 simply because I am a Titans fan. I have actually been wondering why it took so long to get this on the Marketplace.

I’m a football nut, but these are overpriced (though we’ll no doubt see many avatars sporting them soon enough).

A hockey jersey would be nice, too, but I wouldn’t pay these prices, personally. Vocal minority, though.

Still, questions:
1) Do these jersey’s show your Gamertag on the back? Or at least a team name? (would be a nice touch)

2) Will we ever see “free” avatar clothing again? Things being added to the traditional set of outfits? Or has it become to profitable to be nice?

NuAngel

Will the numbers be changeable? For $4 I would expect some customization.

Now we need NHL, NCAA, MLB and NBA…but come on…320 points? If you guys are going to nickel and dime us, then at least give us XBL Gold for free!!!

Can you at least choose your number?

Good point SLAUGHTER!!! Give us GOLD for free & I’ll buy clothes for my avatar all the time.

Wow, i like the idea and i love the st.louis rams shirt, but 320 POINTS?!?!?!
I’ll pass. How can a game on marketplace be 400 points and a SHIRT be 320?

Give me a break. That waaaaaay overpriced!

Cool… I really hop where gonna get English Premier League Football kits at some point.

I want a Manchester Utd Kit or shirt for my avatar. and i know there are many 1000′s more that support a Premier League team and want to represent with there avatar

The jerseys are too cheap. They should cost more. Just like the jerseys they sell at the pro shop! : P

This is actually pretty awesome and I think complaints about how overpriced it is seems misplaced. I’ll assume the people making the complaints aren’t fans of a sports team or they’d know that most sports merchandise IS expensive. Asking $4 doesn’t seem as unreasonable as it could be.

HUGE NFL fan here… I would buy if it was reasonably priced. No way at 320.

320 MSP ($4.00 US) is very expensive for an avatar shirt.

May I ask Major, who exactly is responsible for the pricing structure of avatar items and do they live in the real world? 320 points for a inanimate avatar item, that doesn’t even seem to be customisable is nothing short of extortionate…

It’s a shame, as I was looking forward to the NFL shirts going up in the marketplace, and I’d even have been prepared to let my children get a shirt each IF the pricing had been reasonable, but nope – it’s not, so you’ll miss out on 2 sales from my family, and from what I’m reading, we’re far from alone in our disgust at the insane pricing…

160 points is the maximum a single piece of clothing should be, and that’s only if it’s customisable like the Halo Hoodie USED to be – realistically , no single piece of clothing should be more than 80 points with the majority being no more than 40 points. Seriously, if the prices were lower, MS and the avatar marketplace vendors would make more money in the end, as, believe it or not, a hell of a lot more people would be prepared to invest in clothing for their avatars if they felt they were being treated like valued customers, rather than being the butt of a marketing joke.

JMO opinion, which it pains me to write, as I was really looking forward to the Avatar marketplace…

so of course microsoft would put these on the avatar marketplace rather than making them the non-existant avatar awards/unlockables. how about this. if you play a season with a certain team and take them all the way to the super bowl and win the super bowl you unlock that team’s jersey for your avatar. that way it would take some time to get every team’s jersey and it would be worth it. but noooo, they put it on avatar marketplace. i love the cowboys but i don’t love them enough to pay $4 for a virtual jersey for my virtual avatar……

Folks–the competition has the same outfits for the same price on their competing service, so don’t throw the messenger (Major) or Microsoft under the bus, as they likely had little say in the matter.

And frankly, these items are for the die-hard fans that would likely pay twice the amount just to show everyone that they’re a Detroit Lions or St. Louis Rams fan, losing be damned.

As for me, I have to join the chorus asking for NCAA gear. If anything, NCAA Football and Basketball attire would be appropriate and likely picked up just as readily as NFL gear.

Ugh. I got really excited to get a Steelers jersey, but as most people have said above me, 320 points is pretty pricey. I will probably end up getting one anyway because I’m a huge Steelers nerd, but seriously- these Avatar Marketplace prices are getting more ridiculous with each new addition. Major, you’re a persuasive guy- talk to the team that sets these prices and voice the people’s opinion!

For 320 points, it’d be really awesome if the number on the jersey could be changed, or if the jersey came in a package of home/away/alternate jerseys for the team (although that’s probably asking a bit much). Either one of those would make the price seem quite a bit more reasonable.

to expand on what i said, its not the fact that they are $4 that bugs me. i knew they would be $4 because that’s just the way it is. everything is overpriced “in my opinion”. so i will show them i don’t like it with my wallet. its the fact that they advertised this avatar awards program and now they haven’t used it one bit. i understand from a business standpoints its better for them to just throw clothes on the marketplace and make money off of it rather than the extra programming and what not in the game but come on. don’t advertise a feature and act like its another benefit of buying a 360 if you are never going to use it.

I wouldn’t blame this one on MS or EA. I’d chalk this one up to NFL licensing. IF you’ve seen other official NFL gear, you’d know they are pretty proud of their stuff and charge a premium for it.

Do what I do, don’t buy the stuff. I’ve been slowly migrating things over to the ps3. I still have alot of friends on the 360 but they are moving also, as soon as the cross game invites and stuff hit, it’ll be comparable.

@RetroZoon – that’s exactly what i’ve been doing, not played online on xbox for around 2 weeks now, been on the playstation for the last 5months, already got 2 friends converted over and microsoft have lost £80 in xbox live renewal from me and my friend. also the games coming out like call of duty and assassins creed will all be bought on the playstation. wait until uncharted is out and final fantasy on the PS3, lots of winter changes i believe. oh and by the way @retroZoon, how many times has you PS3 failed on you, in comparison to your xbox?? xbox is winning 4-0 still :D

wow…would love to get a Dolphins jersey but NOT for 320 points.

I understand it costs a lot to use the NFL license for stuff like this (just ask EA), but this is just ridiculous! Oh well, I guess at least one good thing came out of this: the justified “this is too expensive” complaints are replacing the usual asinine “my football is better than yours” ones.

Are we paying 320 points for a jersey that we can’t customize (like change the number or add our name on the back)? What kind of slackers are making these items, anyway? If you need some innovative ideas on how to sell more then maybe you should take advice from the community, Major. Because it seems like Rare (or whomever) is half-assing these.

These are boring and expensive.

Only way these jersey’s are worth it is if you can play as your avatar in an actual football game.. otherwise, there isn’t much use. There isn’t any community game to really show off your 4 bucks spent on a virtual item

How about some NHL jerseys for us season ticket holders huh? Predators FTW!

They don’t even look like real jerseys. They look like the standard avatar T-shirts with new textures / skin applied to them.
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Since the numbers and names aren’t customizable at all, I’m guessing the entire lot of them was cranked out by an artist in a few days.

ok… people… stop whining about the Avatar Awards. I remember one developer stating in an interview (I want to say it was about GH5 but I can’t remember that for sure) that the update came out too late for them to be able to incorporate Awards into their game.

It’s going to take time for developers to build these into their games. You probably won’t see those until games that come out early next year (completely a guess from me). By this time next year, it’s probably going to be common for games to have Avatar Awards.

I’m still waiting for NHL sweaters. Hopefully those will have numbers, put the teams captain on them, or they’ll be customizable.

@ Mcmax3000 – they might have said that, but it’s merely a lame cop-out on their part. I mean, isn’t that what title updates are for (to patch and add new content to games?) They can add all kinds of stuff (achievements, tweaks to levels and maps, changes to the in-game physics)after the game has already been released, via update downloads. IMO, adding avatar awards into an already released game would be exactly the same in principal. In theory however, it’s obviously all far too much trouble when they realise they can just add the unlockables into the marketplace and charge for them (because this is what they effectively did with GH5 – the plain black GH tee was supposed to be one of the unlockables “allegedly”).

If I could choose my own number and my gamertag was on the back I would buy even if it was 400msp. I will pass.
Where are the Avatar Awards? Major I remember about a month ago on a inside xbox video saying soon. Plus the update was 2 months ago and still nothing. What is up?

When are the avatars gonna get some NCAA love? I’m dying for a Gators jersey.

@Mcmax3000

well splosion man is supposed to have avatar awards (which from my understanding hasn’t actually been implemented yet) and that came out during the summer of arcade. so you are telling me it was too late for guitar hero 5 which came out september 1st but it was NOT too late for splosion man which came out july 22nd??? good argument there……and like dgmn said there is always title updates to games where you can add avatar awards. microsoft is just bad about advertising they have something before its ready or even being used.

Lol,any price is too much for images,so what if they are 3d.Even worse for theme pics.They are selling us jpegs for money…….MS makes a fortune…..We spend away…who is getting the deal?

Not worth 320 MS points. Common guys, it’s really not that hard to create one jersey and then change the design for each team. If Microsoft would make their avatar accessories affordable then they might sell some!

Lynch182, i’ve been thru 7 xbox’s since the launch. PS3 really none.

320 points. Not pleasant, but expected. Officially licensed stuff. Goes through the NFL AND EA (both of which want their pound of flesh). Like others have said, I would have NO PROBLEM (and would probably even pay more), if I could customize the number on the jersey and have my gamertag on the back. As it is now, all the jerseys are identical basically with just a different color scheme. THAT, my friends, is why IMHO the 320 price is too steep. Let my put #37 on the front (for my favorite Seahawk Shaun Alexander) and “Headgamer” on the back, and I’d be cool with the price, no questions asked. As it is now, I’ll have to think about it a bit.

I don’t have any problem with the price, as I am a big fan of “stuff that ISN’T for EVERYONE”…that being said, I do expect some quality for my money, and the Dallas Cowboys “jersey” is a joke. It’s plain white, no logo or team name, and has two blue stripes on the sleeve…pass. A lot of the teams have authentic looking designs which include the team name on the front (in small letters)–Titans and Texans are two examples of good looking jerseys– but since my team got the generic touch, it’s a no sale. Now if there was a helmet, WITH LOGO, to go with it, sign me up! And just to clarify my point about the pricing, the whole point of customizing your Avatar is so that it’s “yours”, so things that are a little more expensive (and I do blame NFL licensing for that in this case) also make them a little more unique, especially in the case of actual sports fans.

Yeah that is a little high,Does anyone know if EA is going to do NBA jerseys next and if so how much?

Now if the came out with an entire nfl uniform with alternate/throwback from helmet to shoes.
I would probably buy it.But a generic jersey????Heck the who set should be free in you paid for maddens overrated crud.i will right the blowhard a letter.

Madden/ME/EA prove again that monopolies are bad for all of us.How i miss 2k nfl games(still).

GO CHIEFS!!!! NFL HATS and HELMETS PLEASE???

Everyone needs to quit crying. This is a specialty “niche” product and those who feel want it are willing to pay for it. If you don’t like it, too bad. If you don’t have the money, then get a second job. Stop being mad at the world because YOU can’t afford the things you truly want!! GO CHIEFS!!!

Sounds cool. But 320 points, come on.

HAHAHA Not Free? NO WAY! Screw that marketplace Im never setting foot in there. GREED

resist people, resist. i know you want one. i want one too. buying them will only encourage EA and MS. $4 is ridiculous.

In the end, this is it for me:

Cost + no customization = bad.
Cost + customization = good.

Pretty simple formula.

@JUNG GUNS
no, its not that i can’t afford it. i just want to be a complete tool like you are for buying this stuff. by the way i can’t wait until the cowboys destroy your chiefs this sunday. anyways, just like everyone else is saying, the customizable jerseys are a great idea. that would be cool to make it any number you want. i mean how hard could that be for a graphic designer to add when designing these jerseys. i am pretty sure i could make these in microsoft paint….

More overpriced, pretend doll clothes please.

The community has spoken and it says your over-charging for digital tat. Sooner or later you’ll have to acknowledge our howls of discontent. Please pass our comments on to your superiors Major.

Why do you want your custom number on the back of the jersey when you can’t even see it?! 320 Points, what do you guys expect, it’s EA (The Devil Company)

When are we going to see some MLB gear? The playoffs are in full swing right now, so it would be a prime time for them to be released I would love at least baseball caps, full uniforms would be cool as well as gloves/bats/balls for props.

Way to drop the ball on this. (no pun intended)

I think the customization for the jerseys would be nice, but not with the numbers or letters on it. At the most, they could give you a randomized number to change things up a little. But otherwise, if you allowed people to put their own numbers on it, you’ll end up with too many morons who think they’re cool for putting 69 on their jerseys. As for customizing the words on them, there’s no chance in hell that’ll ever happen because of the can of worms that would open. (as if Stepto and his team don’t already have enough reasons to ban people!)

$6.25, no thanks (i don’t count it as 4 bucks because i am forced to have to buy 500 points)… and all for a virtual avatar, ridiculous. I’ll buy a real t-shirt for less money.

oh and my comment might seem hypocritical looking at my avatar, but i bought some axe that came with free points to get my sam fisher avatar clothes.

I’m annoyed that we continue to see basic Mii Too items cost money like this. Now, I understand entirely that there was a licensing fee involved with the NFL. I’m more upset at the principle of it; Microsoft is continuing to charge money for things when their Mii Too system isn’t even as functional as the Wii’s. Let us recolor and adjust some of the basic items, THEN we can talk about charging money for only marginally useful stuff like this.
As it is, I’m insulted that Microsoft is ignoring core functionality in favor of “$$$ kekeke $_$”, and have bought another batch of Nintendo Points in protest. I will continue this policy until Microsoft wises up.

I AM WILLING TO PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR A GIANTS JERSEY FOR MY AVATAR!!!!!!!! 320 MS Points is like 5 bucks seriously. Pogs and Buttons and things of that nature are about the same price and it wont clutter up my desk or end up in a box in my closet. Stop Whining.

I don’t understand the point of these? Why not make them integrated with achievements, so you can show off the world your achievements through your clothing / prop style? I will not buy any of these because they show nothing. The only thing it really shows though, is that you were ignorant enough to pay Microsoft for an intangible clothing item that doesn’t do anything at all.

Yup…..I am reading your comments and sending along some of them to the various team members.

@dgmn & I chex mix ho I
Like I said, I could be wrong on it being stated by a GH5 developer, that’s just the game I remember it being apart of, and I’m just repeating what the developer said. I don’t know whether or not it’s actually true (though, with regards to GH5 vs ‘Splosion Man, a retail game has to have things complete a lot longer before launch then an XBLA game to allow time for manufacturing/distribution so it could very well be a valid statement).

Think about Avatars in general. We’ve had those for almost a year & we’re just now starting to see retail games that are using them (GH5, DiRT 2 etc). It takes time for developers to start integrating those kinds of features into their games.

And yes, they could likely add those things via a title update but the time & effort that would likely be required by a dev team to go back & update an old game is probably not worth it for them when they could instead focus on adding Avatar Awards to whatever game they’re currently working on.

@Major – How about an update for Avatar Awards? or lack there of? Secondly, Your sending the comments along but is anything really changing?

The 00 is kind of too much like the body part that the jersey covers on our lady players… Id consider Da Bears if I could get a 34 on it.

I also speak with my wallet, and if there was an NHL Blackhawks jersey, I would have no trouble dropping $4 on it.

And there are free avatar items, I’m currently sporting a beatles tee that cost me nothing.

I was expecting these to be free! What happened to those good old days before an employee’s pet dog was allowed to make marketing decisions involving a new Avatar Marketplace.. part of their Lost Potential Campaign.

think about it this way

sell an item at 320ms points ($4) and you get people to think about buying an item…

…sell the same item for 40-80 ms points ($0.50-$1) and you’ll likely have them making impulse purchases where the total would likely exceed 320 ms points!!

Sadly for me this happens all the time at walmart where i am wondering how i just spent $50 when i only intended to spend $20, or even on itunes because the songs are so cheap.

“price it low enough so that people can make impulse purchases, after the 3d modeler creates the file how much is it really costing ms at that point?…lower the price”

also, with the madden name of the back shouldn’t EA pay us to be walking billboards…wait the avatars don’t walk do they?

Cant put names or numbers on the jerseys they are linked to real players and their likenesses would have to be compensated, sending the prices even higher. If you love football, but the damn jersey. If not, SHUT UP!!!!

GO CHIEFS!!

I meant *buy* the damn jersey, sorry.

GO CHIEFS!!

@Jung Guns – I think there is a better way of explaining that. Other than that I agree with you. Except on the chiefs …..

Go Giants!!!!!!

You know, Jung Guns, telling people to “shut up” and “quit crying” when they complain is not likely to endear them to your line of thinking.
You know this thing we’re doing here? Where we’re giving our OPINION on what’s going on? It’s called “feedback”. It’s how companies know what we as consumers think about what they’re doing. Some of us agree, and some don’t; but the only way the company is going to know is if we actually GIVE OUR FEEDBACK.
Whether they do anything with that feedback or not is another story, but if we don’t give them our feedback, then there’s a whole lot less opportunity for them to know what we want and cater to that.
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Here’s my feedback:
$4 static generic jersey, too much price for too little.
$4 for a jersey where you can pick your number, getting better.
$4 for a jersey were you can pick your number and has your gamertag on the back, getting closer.
$2 for a jersey were you can pick your number and has your gamertag on the back, IMPULSE BUY.
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While I’m at it…
$5 lightsaber that only lights up in blue, meh.
$5 lightsaber that you can change to blue, red, yellow, green, or purple, getting closer.
$5 lightsaber that you can change to blue, red, yellow, green, or purple, and select single or double-blade, much closer.
Cut the price to $3, and that’s a buy.

@CyberKnight
great post. one of the better ones i have read on this site. i definitely agree that there is no way we will ever be able to put whatever name we want on the back of the jersey. this could be for the reason of having the player’s name on the back of and it and having to pay for it or just simply people putting stupid stuff on there. i think it will either say nothing or default to our gamertag. however, i think there is nothing wrong with letting you choose the number (correct me if i’m wrong by all means). that would at least make these a little more diverse.

why did you make the Cowboys jersey white?

you should of made the Blue, atleast then it would look better, it has the Star on the sleeves and the COWBOYS under the nfl shield on of the front of the jersey….

i love the white they wear in real life but your version looks cheap

LAME!!!

Oh yeah, letting you choose your own *text* for the back of the jersey would get abused in a heartbeat. Stepto would have a heart attack. That’s why I figured just the gamertag.

I don’t know how the NFL rules work — I know they tend to be “overzealous” with what they consider is “their property” — but I would think that a number plus the team jersey wouldn’t equal a “likeness” that would require a license from the player. (See http://blog.masslive.com/minuteblog/2009/07/college_athletes_sue_ncaa_over.html for a related story about NCAA and the use of “likenesses” — I played a lot of Coach K College B’Ball back in the day. ) Might even be less of an issue if you consider Microsoft wouldn’t be selling the numbers as “prepackaged” units but rather as something a user could select (and if a user just “happens” to select a number that “happens” to coincide with a real player, that’s not their fault).

Of course, I’m not a lawyer, so don’t quote me on any of that… :/

following up to what ‘CyberKnight’, imagine if back in the 70′s and 80s if GM/Chrysler/Ford never responded to the feedback they were getting from their customers? where would they be now if they kept ignoring them? what if they told them to just shut up and if you don’t like it buy something else ’cause no one is forcing you to buy our cars’

Major please don’t listen to these crybabies. I’m not rich but I can spend $4 to represent the greatest franchise ever.

GO CHIEFS!!!

Pathetic. No wonder everyone hates Microsoft. They do stupid things like this. We pay for Xbox Live, does that not grant us a free virtual shirt? Good grief. Go to hell Microsoft.

I didn’t know the Chiefs still played in the NFL. Don’t they play pee wee football.
I don’t even think the entire team is worth $4.

I can get a good XBLA game for 400.

320 for a shirt doesn’t compute. Haven’t you learned anything from Apple? Make it cheap (99 cents for a song, $1.99 for an app on the app store).

I’m usually not one to complain. I love my 360 and xbox live, but these prices are insulting.

Obviously not being into American Football I’d find the items uninteresting anyway but that aside, they all look the same!

Number zero. So appropriate because that’s what you are if you buy one.

how about those avatar awards? they are great aren’t they? oh wait, they are not released yet… Major Nelse, we are waiting for an update….

Been thinking about going back to PS3 since I remember buying QUALITY items that mostly WORTH THE PRICE from the PlayStation Network for both PS3 & PSP…

Keep it up Microsoft. The only reason I still even have a 360 is because of the money I spent on this **** and can’t seem to get over the amount spent on it yet even with the DRM BS you guys have going on.

San Fransisco 49ers bitch!

Thanks for letting the community have their voice be heard on this, Major. Hopefully it actually makes a difference. I thought it was ridiculous when you started charging for “premium” avatar paraphernalia in the first place, but charging nearly the price of some games for a fake shirt surpasses ridiculous and enters the ludicrous realm. Why is a shirt (jersey = shirt in this case) with 2 zeros on it in team colors 4x the cost of a shirt that says Halo on it? Is it a licensing thing? Either way it’s absurd.

Oh, and @TheGreatSilence, your assumption is poor. I am a fan of a few sports teams, and own some REAL sports merchandise. Yes, it was expensive, but it is actually useful to me, whereas a digital shirt for a digital version of “me” is not. Nor can I sell it or return it if I decide I no longer want it.

I would buy a Browns jeresy if I can change the number and put my name on it. Please MS dont mess up NBA jeresys! I really want a Cavs jeresy

Oh yeah, I passed this weeks avatar clothing. I who like stuff like this know that these little shirts are WAY too overpriced. I think I would have gotten my favorite team for maybe 160MP but 320…come on.

I only use the points that I have left, 160 could easily go to a GH song…but there aren’t any I like at the moment and I spent it on the avatar trinkets cause they look good when playing a game with them.

These companies are getting a little crazy with the pricing of the clothing and if it keeps on going that way I’m going to stop and stay with the ones I have purchased.

I really hope they made a mistake and drop down the prices like they do sometimes when I have purchased some clothes and they raise or lower the prices later.

I wish they hold a contest to see who can model things for their avatar I would jump on it so fast, or even sell your stuff like in Second Life my things would cost from 80MP to 160MP

$4.00 USD? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well you know in the ‘free’ wardrobe there was the American Football jersey and then they add Baseball and World Football jersey.

Well my question is when are they going to add the 2 Canadian sports!!!

HOCKEY and
BASKETBALL (yes basketball is Canadian)

I want a free Xbox hockey jersey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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More overpriced shit, brought to you by xbox. *sigh*

lol I will still never BUY cloths for my AVATAR.

im sure with players names and numbers, the governing body for the sport own all rights to them, as they own the registrations. i might be wrong, i dont think it would cost anymore to have official players names on the shirts. as with fifa 10 the netherlands governing body finally allowed EA to use the kits and the players names for their country, whereas on 2009 they didnt but the players for the netherlands eg nistelrooy, we’re available for real madrid. microsoft are just tight. get a PS3

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Fool and their Money – Spend 320 MS points on a generic jersey that doesn’t even have a team logo

What, no helmets??!!! C’mon, MS you’re slackin. I’m sure some sucker will pay 800 pts. for a helmet.

But seriously, you can sell a million jerseys at a buck each or one at a million bucks. Either way you make the same amount of money, but only one way is guaranteed to give you a million happy customers.

Ah, I remember the avatar golden age when, during World Cup season, We all got a free update of our favorite teams colors. How quickly things change.

At that price it should be a Home and Away jersey per team.

How about a free Lombardi Trophy if you purchase like 5 of these… ahaha

Off Topic: Yo Major, Need For Speed Underground 2 please!!

320 MS points!!?? ROFLcopter. Suckers.

Hahaha, you have to be KIDDING me!

I’ve spent probably $3000 on the Xbox Live Marketplace… Microsoft has really done some things RIGHT. Granted, they’ve tried some things that I didn’t care for… Some of it might have been another publishers fault, but mostly, MS has corrected their mistakes. We aren’t seeing many Live Arcade games over 800 MS points, lately.

That said, I will NOT buy Avatar items. Never. It isn’t going to happen.

It might not be considered a competitor, but look at the PC side. It IS a competitor, because that has started getting my attention, my time, and my money. One of the PC download sites has been offering up full, GOOD games at $5.00 USD. Full of win.

One of the console competitors has free online service, which is only getting better. Fair prices, mostly… Oh, and honest to goodness REAL sale prices. Right now, the Xbox 360 community is the only thing keeping me buying multiplatform games on it.

Now, let’s look at the TOY. With motion control. With downloadable emulator roms… I bought one, at launch. Bought several roms. When the system lost my interest, I sold it. MS got my business, at that point.

Who will get it next, if the money grubbing BS continues? MS has another golden opportunity, with Avatar clothing and such. Another way to add value to the games themselves, a GREAT reason to choose the Xbox 360 version of a game, when you go shopping. Or, the opportunity can be squandered.

wah wah wah stuffs too over priced …. yeah it is but you don’t have to buy it …. hell you can go back a nes … there’s not an over priced marketplace there or you can shut up and face the fact that we live in a capitalist world and no one gives anything away for free .. personally i am enjoying my panthers jersey … if only they would win a game this year

I’ve been hoping this nickle and dime virtual accessory purchasing is merely a phase.

It is rather difficult to imagine any frame of mind that could suggest it is logical to spend 4.00 on a shirt for your little avatar guy.
The same goes for all of the other accessories available for sale.
Also the in-game purchasing like EA’s various nickle and dime gimmickry.

The only way it is even remotely makes sense is if it offers you skill increases on games. Even that is rather ridiculous in my opinion….but at least I could see why some people will want to fall victim to it in that case.

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How about we quit selling our butts to M$ every time they come out with this stuff so they would get the point? Now we have games coming out with DAY ONE DLC. FOR SHAME!

Some DLC is definitely worth it…take Forza 3 and Batman AA (not day one, but week2 DLC)…both are FREE DLC, and both games are packed with content already, so the DLC is actually “extra” not “left out”. As far as the Jerseys go, g/t on the back would be cool, but you don’t really see the back of your Avatar much, so I don’t think it really matters. As for numbers, they are NOT licensed, as you can go to any NFL site and get a “custom” jersey with any name/ number combo (with some restrictions on the names, obviously). I can’t believe how many people are still buying iTunes songs and saying it’s a “deal”…I switched to the Zune Pass over a year ago and am loving it. $14.99 a month, UNLIMITED downloads, and, best of all, 10 song credits a month ($9.99 value). Best of all, all the Zune content streams right to the 360, and once the Fall update goes through the video marketplaces will merge…win-win.

4 dollahr for a fake jersey? LOL WUT!?

I can’t even customize it? Sweet baby jesus. Micro$oft it is.

any chance of English Premier League shirts?..Man United please(as long as it is like the usual Manchester United shirts,not fake rip offs,like the England tops)..get Peter Moore on it with the FIFA stuff!!

I’ll spend that 320 on a couple of Rockband songs.

And 2 things.

1- These jerseys are expensive for a reason. There’s alot of people trying to make money off them. EA, Microsoft, not to mention the NFL. There just isn’t enough pieces of the pie to go around with a $1 or even $2 jersey.

2- I see now why Microsoft went with a points system over cash pricing. 320 points doesn’t sound nearly as bad as $4.

So?!

Overpriced useless shirt for avatar

Overpriced DLC that u can get for free on pc

Overpriced old game on demand

Great way to reward people that support you M$…!

Did you know the ps3 is now 299??

I actually bought a PS3 recently, instead of using my credit on 360 games. From now on I’m going to be buying where my money is better spent. Hopefully Microsoft will notice and realize the idea of added value for XBL instead of trying to nickel and dime every new addition that is added to it. There is absolutely no way that I would ever pay money for 1 vs 100 or this ‘Tower of ROM’ arcade addition I’ve been hearing about. ADDED VALUE for PAYING CUSTOMERS!

how hard would it have been for MS to allow people to customize the jersey. I realize that they probably could allow people to put the name of their favorite player due to rights issues, but atleast get the name of the team on the jersey, allow us to pick the number & have our gammertag on the back. then maybe the 320pt price tag would be easier to swallow.

NHL Jerseys, please!

“NHL Jerseys, please!”

HELL YEAH!!

I see the PS3 store now have the shirts for $2.99 no additional “points” required and according to the developer “Player named Jerseys will come later”

320 points is definitely pricey, though I’d still be tempted to buy it if there were some way to ensure EA wouldn’t get any of my money for the purchase.

they should just release some NFL TEAM gamerpics for about 80-100msp

@teH B4Tm4n:
They’re already there… look under the Madden titles. I bought a Jaguars pack a while back, but you know… they suck now… :\

wow major you made it sound like some big awesome new clothin the other day, please don’t do that again, who cares about a couple useless overpriced shirts. & WHERE THE FREHL IS OUR AVATAR AWARDS.

Look even though I am an Aussie ..I would’nt dream of paying that price for a piece of Avatar Clothing..I will also bet Aussie AFL & NRL Team Jerseys never become a reality.

despite the price…if these jerseys actually had player names and numbers on them, i would consider them as a purchase (cutler, hester, urlacher…)…but, i don’t want a jersey with two zeros on it…

Upcoming Deals of the Week

This week – Prince of Persia’s Epilogue
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October 19th – Resident Evil 5 Versus Mode
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I remember when they said avatar clothes will always be free.I also remember a few years back when Xboxlive went down at Christmas time they said they would reward everyone with some free arcade games. Guess what, Im still waiting.

@Frantic Fargo
those were removed along time ago.

@krisxx
Really? October 19th (a Monday?) – Resident Evil 5 Versus Mode. I’ll check that when I see it, no biggie, but interesting. Zombie Apocalypse and Bass Pro Shops: The Strike will keep me busy until then.

@tMongoose

Actually, they never said ALL clothing would be free. They did say, though, that would attempt to keep it cheap or free if always possible. But now thats M$ for you. As far as the free game from that down time 2 years ago, they did away a free game. I got mine. It was Cascarone.

I have to congratulate dgmn for her take on the avatar marketplace content… I used to love the idea of buying things for my avatar but since it’s been out I have been weary of buying anything which I am not entirely sure I want. The part mentioning the Halo Hoodie and it being customisable should realistically be true for most of the content on the marketplace – it would at least make it worth more paying so much for it. I know it’s not MN’s fault and I doubt anything will be done about it at least for now but 320MSP for a T-Shirt is just ridiculous. Another thing, most adults will not want to buy from the avatar marketplace because they will see no point in wasting money on the clothes, most kids will want to but won’t be able to because they don’t have much money and parent’s more than likely pay for it… so lower the prices and adults and children will both see more of a reason to shell out… easy!

Great stuff, but PRICEY. I’ll pass thanks.

MS whats with these prices? who ever pays this for virtual clothes is mad.

Did Microsoft even bother to do a comparsion with other DLC to see what a fair price for an avatar jersey should be? 320 points is 4 U.S. dollars. Burnout Paradise (which also provided tons of FREE DLC for well over a year following release) charged significantly less than that to purchase custom cars which weren’t just skins, but new vehicles that could be USED in the game. How do you “use” an avatar jersey? Heck you can’t even see it unless you’re on the specific friends screen that shows the full avatar body. There’s no “Microsoft Home” or other social networking program where it would even matter how your avatar looks.

I thought it was bad enough charging 80 or 160 points for themes and backgrounds with game-licensed material on it. If I’m willing to put basically an advertisement of your game up as my wallpaper on my system, that should cost me NOTHING. Especially if I’ve already bought the game. You may make a buck or two off these jersies, but with each step in this direction, you set a worse and worse precedent. This is an industry that has crashed in the past (see 1983), and you can only abuse your consumer base so much before they’ll turn elsewhere.

I reckon that they should actually be free as they could be sponsored by the team and considered as advertising for them and the co. could put the cost into their ad. budget and make gamers around the world happy.

@WeezinTheJuice
Carcassonne was free (at one time)? Hmmm… I bought it (a friend taught me some basic rules), fun game while it lasted when others played. Then what was Aegis Wing and Undertow for?

Avatars are very much useless and spending a few bucks on them is just a waste of money.

What a complete rip off.
completely over piced, c’mon get real, things like this you cannot seriously charge more than 80 points ffs. jeez you guys sure like to source as much cash as you can.

When do we get NHL Jerseys?