March 15th 2010 12:05 am PT

Show #353: Wil Wheaton, MW2 Stimulus Package and Supreme Commander

 

Host: Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE’s Major Nelson (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)  
Co-host : e (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)  
Co-host : lollip0p (Xbox LIVE) (Twitter)
Co-Host: Stepto (Xbox LIVE) (Twitter)

Special Guest Star: Wil Wheaton

Interview: Chris Taylor, Supreme Commander 2 (37:01 – 48:49)
Interview: Robert Bowling, Modern Warfare 2 Stimulus Map Pack (48:39 – 1:00:51)
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Battlefield- Bad Company 2

Supreme Commander 2

Final Fantasy XIII- Limited Edition Bundle

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1:32:58
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  • DRAYL0B

    No thanks, I will pass! With as much money as they made from the sale of the game, they should reward fans with FREE maps….instead they let greed take over. I will save my money for another new game. Thanks Activision and Microsoft.

  • LittleBlueAlien

    @Carnage_rules – it would seem that your attention to detail matches your intelligence. Needless to say, I feel good inside knowing that I’m no longer affiliated with a network that contains users of your character.

  • mastrbiggy

    To be expected really, it is Activision. First the whole pc ordeal, then the firing of their two main Infinity Ward employees and now this. Too bad most people will buy this allowing publishers to take more advantage of our wallets. Also that 2K Bioshock 2 dlc is just ridiculous.

  • EXL Unit

    Great show guys! I always enjoy listening to you all. Very informative and very funny at times. Keep it up!

  • Mr Weazle

    Major, is there any news on those AVP sound effects for peoples phones?
    If sega are holding a gun to your head then cough once for yes, twice for no

  • Anonymous

    Let’s put this in perspective.
    —
    1200 points for 5 maps. 3 are new, 2 are ports from COD4. You know what else was 1200 points? Battlefield 1943. BF1943 wasn’t JUST a port of BF42. It was an entirely NEW game built with the Frostbite engine and had to have all new models, artwork and maps created for it. It also had all new music composed for it, an entirely new GUI designed, et cetera. In addition to being an all new game, it came with four maps and 32 player multiplayer.
    —
    $15 for an entire game that had to be built from the ground up or $15 for 5 maps, 2 of which required almost no work to port over and 3 only required minimal work because they’re using existing textures and models from the toolkit for MW2. When compared it makes the ridiculousness of the map pack pricing even more evident.

  • Vulak Aerr

    Only halfway through but really enjoying the show so far. Wil is an entertaining dude and I always love hearing about the co-op antics of the regular four, be it on Borderlands or BF.

    Not surprised on the price point for the MW2 map pack. We always knew Activision liked milking their games. Thankfully I’ve dropped MW2 in favour of the superior BF:BC2 now. It’s simply more fun.

  • RoG Semtex RV

    Should make 5 NEW maps 800, then 5 flashback maps from cod4 free……….show your community love bowling.

  • Ironmaus

    Major (or anyone), do you know how this will affect matchmaking? Has Activision or Infinity Ward stated how the hoppers will deal with those who don’t have the map pack?

    If not, I’d be interested if someone in the media would look into it.

  • Av0cad0

    @Akedo sooo… they made the game and then gimped it by locking content so they could sell to us again. Then they are disingenuous enough to actually call it DLC? Seeing that this was just done with Bioshock 2, it looks like this is becoming a trend in gaming.
    Why not make a quality product (with all of the content) and support it as needed after release? Charge what you want, but don’t cheat me. Maybe write on the box “Disc contains 10 additional maps that can be unlocked for $30.” Oh wait, then no one would buy it. Bilking your own customers is not generally considered a sound business strategy.

  • ExplosiveJdog

    15 dollars for 5 maps, thats outrageous.Only 3 maps are going to be new.I cant believe activision has the guts to call it a stimulus package.

  • ExplosiveJdog

    I agree with RoG semtex

  • hudsmack

    $15 for 3 new maps and 2 recycled maps? Considering most of my friends have moved on to BF:BC2, I don’t think so.

  • CARNAGE RULES

    @LittleBlueAlien

    Didn’t you say you were leaving for good. Being a silver is not leaving. I guess you’re not a man of your word.

  • Atomicow

    @Ironmaus

    If you don’t buy it, and one of the “new” maps is selected, you will be booted out of matchmaking and have to retry.

    I know, such a nice way to thank the people that gave them a billion dollars over the last few months, huh?

  • ornery owl

    I’ll be selling my copy of MW2 when this comes out. I had no problem at all paying $10 for the COD4 map pack, but $15 for rehash is just getting ridiculous. I love the COD franchise and IW, but seriously? If it included some new weapons, perks, attachments or missions then I’d be all over it.

    I think BC2 is more fun anyway. MW and MW2 are great but they really are just basically Counter-Strike with nice graphics.

  • Tirkon

    Not one comment on Supreme Commander 2. I guess I’ll be in the minority, but I enjoyed hearing about it, even if it sometimes sounded like a commerical. Like hearing from the devs. I bought it, and am enjoying it well enough.

  • Kroesis

    A little late to the party but as much as it’ll probably make no difference in the long run you can add another +1 to the not buying the MW2 map pack. Mind you I only purchased the game because a mate of mine encouraged me to so upon reflection, I might just try to encourage him to trade it in for BF:BC2.

  • BJWanlund

    @ Major Nelson I thought the Wil Wheaton content wasn’t enough!!

    As far as the MW2 Map Pack goes, I just said goodbye to ever buying Modern Warfare 2. And hello to buying Borderlands (which looks like SO much fun. Diablo + guns = epic win) and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (and Halo 3, since I haven’t bought that yet, I know, shame on me).

    And I’ll definitely buy Perfect Dark for XBLA, I can NOT wait to play this game!!

    BJ

  • Vulak Aerr

    @Kroesis Hey, since you’re in the UK you might be interested to (or already) know that Game stores are selling BF:BC2 for about £10 if you trade in MW2 at the same time. Win-win! :)

  • Akedo

    @Av0cad0 just by casually stopping by iw’s forums.. twitter and 402′s page (not to mention here) Most people are very put off by this.. hopefully people will truly hold off from buying it just a lttle.. .. if people truly did this they would lower the price.. but well.. i guess we will see.. if we pay so much this for this little then a new standard will be set.. and the next map pack (which is already there and done..) will be the same if not MORE expensive.. anyhoo..

  • Av0cad0

    This makes the gaming industry look really sleazy. The way DLC and unlockable content is being handled these days means that when you spend $60 on a new game you should just expect to get an incomplete version. I think I need a bath.

  • FearBRUTUS

    Dont get me wrong, I agree with most of you that it is ridiculous that we pay for maps and other unlockable content after paying at least $60 for the game. I do think most of you are being a little crazy. Ive played Halo 3 for the past 2 years and I have payed 800 MP for each map pack. And most of the time 1 out of the 3 maps was a remake. Microsoft is going to get its money anyway they want. All you can do is not buy them if you dont want to spend the money. Less noobs on MW2 will be better anyways :P

  • Honeycut1

    Hey Major I really enjoyed the show. Wil Wheaton was a great guest and it make for some good laughs while listening to the show. I still really really don’t like the 1200 MS points for the MW2 maps, but you didn’t make the call it just got announced here.

    Outside of that I thought the show was great, again I really like Wil Wheaton being on the show. If there is ever an opportunity to reinact the death from Toy Soldiers on Inside Xbox using the game Toy Soldiers or just getting Wil dressed up like his character PLEASE DO THAT it would be incredibly awesome.

  • Kroesis

    @Vulak Aerr Nice, thanks for the info. Think I’ll just grab the last few achievements I want and then it’s a trip to Game for me!

  • ExplosiveJdog

    BF:BC2 or Modern Warfare 2

  • Doerzer

    Let’s see…. since November I’ve played (and enjoyed) for 136 hours according to my stats. So, at $60 for the game, that’s .44 per hour. What the last thing you did and enjoyed for .44 per hour? Yep, I’ll be buying the new map pack, $15 or not. Something tells me a few others will too!

  • x DeMoliti0n Zz

    You must be joking! 1200 M$ points?? I payed enough for the game in the first place, and now I cannot sell it as my 360 chewed it up! I’ll just play Battlefield Bad Company 2, they respect their fans by making the map packs free!

  • GreyWolf D35

    The map pack is a good deal. Sure most map packs are 800 Microsoft points, but then again most are also only 3 maps. That is $3.33 per map. At 1200 Microsoft points and 5 maps it is only $3 per map. It may not be much, but it is cheaper over all. Would you rather buy two different 3-map packs for $20 or one 5 map pack for $15?

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