July 6th 2010 4:42 pm PT

Looks more organized

looks interesting. Kind of looks like onlive though.

This is great! I love Xbox Live Arcade.

Great news. I’ve been with the system since the beginning so I was aware what every title was when it came out but I can see how it would be overwhelming to new customers.

Looks really nice but is it only coming to US?

US only? Why?

nice

So another app to download, just like Zune, Netflix, Facebook, Music Game Stores, and now this? If they integrate it into the dashboard, fine, but don’t make us download more apps.

Looking good I hope (and assume) it’ll come to other LIVE regions too shortly after

Just another pointless app that we really don’t need.

How about the rest of the world?

Now I am from the US so I am looking forward to this. But I have to ask, why just the US. Are we Beta testing this thing and a little later it will be localized and released worldwide.

PiMD is right. The Zune Marketplace app takes a long time to load. The Lips Music Store is the worst. I once started it and was able to cook and eat eggs for breakfast before it finished loading. It does that EVERY TIME. I sure hope that gets improved and that this app isn’t as bad in load times.

It looks interesting at least. I’m a bit confused by what the buttons on the mall are supposed to mean.

Choose one of these is to dig into the four displayed obviously, but what’s “show all games like these” supposed to mean? Same genre? Same price point? A bundle deal?

I think a really useful feature would be tracking of ratings, so you can get recommendations based on how you rate games vs. how others rate them and what they end up playing a lot and/or rating highly.

Oh goody. Something else to download that has it’s own loading screen. I stopped using my 360 for videos just because I have to wait for zune to open/load

This reminds me of Steam.

Too bad you guys can’t do sales as good as them! But the DOTW is better than nothing.

This is awesome, I cant wait till it hits us so I can try it out!

if you’re asking why it’s only US-only for now, keep in mind it sometimes takes a while to localize things for various regions. There are language issues/barriers that need to be addressed before things can just be rolled-out into the world.

For US only, Again !

If you load this by navigating to the game marketplace and selecting Arcade, then sure, it will probably be good. But if this is something you need to download and it is mixed in with your game library, then I think less people will care.

@LawdaddyCO Amen to that. I love Steam Sales. Just grabbed Beat Hazard finally for $3.50 including the “Use your own music library” add-on.

XBLA Deal of the Week is appreciated, but I’m beginning to lean toward PC gaming more due to pricing and sales.

Seems interesting !

What about Europe ?

What’s happening to XBOX? Why now all are apps instead of dashboard integration?
The XBOX Live Arcade Menu should not ever disappear, and this app is a proof of that.
But only some will enjoy that, cause once again it’s US only. Thanks MS for the treat you give to the outer world…

I’m gonna hate this…. I hated having to go through Vuze just to watch a video thats on my HDD…. but like Vuze, I’ll try it out and then uninstall it. I don’t need to waste a few minutes of my time by going through more steps and dealing with load times just to access my videos.

Maybe that would be nice to do the same for XBLIG…to push a little bit Indie Games and for the same time to help Indie Developers !

Thanks

Sined
http://www.xbla360.fr

Dear America
you may not know this but there is a big place called Europe just across the pond from you, i know you wouldlike to forget about us but sadly you cant so why dont you stop putting region barriers up on the internet where there isnt any anywhere else

thank you
singed the world

Looks nice, but what we really need is a Destination Indie.

US ONLY????

A bit useless….

I really like the way the hole Marketplace is integrated to the Dashboard…

U.S. Only – Microsoft, seriously – go do something to yourself. I’ll let you figure out what word I would use.

Fun fact: Only 5% of the world’s population live in the USA

Neat for US Gold members, certainly. With continous effort with stuff like this, 360′s home ground is slowly but surely getting set on stone and considering the market area, perhaps that’s just strategy. 360 is slowly but surely becoming increasingly more tempting within US while it continues to become increasingly less tempting outside US. You guys probably have a plan but this side of the pond, it’s really elusive. Used to be a happy Live subscriber about a year or two back but watching from the other side of the pond, only seeing increased reasons not to renew.

This looks pretty cool.

Hoping it comes to the UK after a successful launch in the US. )

Really hoping we get a Destination Indie too!

Looks and sounds very cool. Hopefully this will roll out to the rest of the world very shortly after.

This looks nice, but too bad its USA only. I hope its only a mistake that US is announced.

That looks cool!

If this is another application, I’m just going to skip it.

It’s ironic, actually. Years ago, Microsoft said they couldn’t separate the web browser from the operating system. Today, Microsoft isn’t integrating *enough* on the Xbox 360.

And you guys wonder why the Kin failed.

I will have to try it out to see how it works out. Seems kind of pointless.

How about a “sort by Sale” option, or some way of prominently featuring the deals of the week?

So this looked like a nice feature. But again, it’s US only. Shame on you, Microsoft.

It doesn’t say it’s only for the US. It just gives the US release date. You people need to read before you start complaining.

Wait so this is some app?
Not like just straight up intergrated into the system?
And why is it just US?
DAMNIT!

Just a note from some of your user: If XBL means non-US users are just here to finance the developments over the pond, Im at the end with my gold membership. Still undecided though. Anyway, the development looks okay and its maybe worth a look. Btw…the rating system is BS. Ff you have enough xbl accounts (silver is enough), you can rate any game up to the skies…

Looks cool, can’t wait to try her out.

I’d love to see some Sega Master System games in this or gameroom. I’d also love to see Crime Fighters on XBLA anyone remember that old arcade game? it’s a 4 player beat em up. That would be awesome.

Has that shiny look to it like the PSN has.

Looks good.

Nice I guess. Is it another “app” that will have to load like Zune? I hate that.

you know what id like, the ability to gift points again. That was a fun christmas.

US only, are you shitting me? And don’t tell me it’s because of localization, I’d rather have everything in English than wait for stuff forever to get badly translated

I think this could be kinda cool – as long as you don’t have to wait for it to load (like the Zune marketplace app/thing).

I hope Microsoft doesn’t ruin this. I already hate watching videos on Xbox because you have to go through Zune.

@Atomicow I couldn’t agree more. Having to go through Zune just to watch videos from the hard drive is a total joke – it takes forever to load Zune up to then watch a 30 second game trailer. I hope this Destination Arcade thing is built in to the dashboard and is not an independent app that needs “booting up” like Zune, Facebook, Twitter etc. I guess I need not worry for a while because it is US only haha.

Why is this available only in the US? This is just an application, it would take no effort to make it available in all Xbox LIVE regions. Microsoft’s policy sometimes seems to be really disappointing. What about half of the installed userbase outside the US? There can’t be copyright issues with this one. Apps like this should be available to all users of the service. Hulu, ESPN, etc. are another matter, but come on, this is for browsing games easier. Every LIVE user would deserve it, every outside the US, too.

Not sure I see the point and as others have said, if this is like Zune it will be pretty much worthless. Will reserve judgement until I try it out though.

add me for another one who deleted the Zune thing because it was a pain to watch my HDD trailers that i downloaded through it

Oh come on…

Why I am paying for XboxLive Gold again? So much features, games and other things are not avaible to me and some other guys out there but we pay the damn same price!!! So Major why dont we get the same services?

I mean I see that some things are not avaible because of Copyrights or things like that, but everytime some things like this comes up I think WHY! Why do Microsoft dont think about what we get for our money… Are we not worth it?

I love my Xbox 360 but this really pisses me of.

Disappointed Marco from Germany

Is this a dashboard update or an application like that Halo one?

It looks ok. I think that sorting the games by price is pretty useful if you got a amount of points left that you want to spend on a high rated but also a low priced game. I’m curious when it’s available in Europe.

@Cerberushunter:
“Why I am paying for XboxLive Gold again? So much features, games and other things are not avaible to me and some other guys out there but we pay the damn same price!!! So Major why dont we get the same services?”

Not really, we pay MORE than in the US (59.99 euros (75.73 dollars)/39.99 pounds (60.58 dollars) versus 49.99 dollars). And we get less.

Funny that, eh?

Just integrate it into the dash.

And another thing, Summer of Arcade? Summer of Overprice more like.

@Shi No Yume
Thanks for the info, its getting better and better. I did not think that Microsoft ripped us like that!

@Microsoft
WTF is wrong with you?!?

Great now I cant sleep because im so *PIEP* argh…

would be wiser to give the add-on section an overhaul. put the whole sh*tload of rb, gh and lips songs in a separate category. they’re only distracting from the “real” add-ons. :/

@mccalejk
Your right as it only says the release date for the US but why give a date for the US only? We can only guess that it’ll be appearing to the rest of the world after. Something like this should be made ready and released to everyone (if that is their intention) at the same time, imo.

I really miss being able to sort by last played, XBLA-only trial and full segregation, and this sort of thing, which was very simplified on NXE.

If you don’t like Zune, delete it. Then you can watch your hard drive videos from the dashboard.

that could be really useful specially this part “You’ll have the ability to sort by price, community rating, and more”.

why not redesign the whole dashboard again an put the Zune and Destination Arcade ect in the dashboard itself saves loading ect.. Make it as easy as the kinect dash.

the lack of comments from nelson are making me believe that this is really US only

Over 300 games on XBLA versus over 1120 games on XBLIG? Yeah that makes total sense to put this on XBLA first. Have you ever tried to keep up with all the Indie games they release each day? Great priorities there guys.

Oh, here’s one thing that I’d love: Be able to see the rating YOU gave to a game, regardless if you bought it or not. Would be easy to remember those good games that just aren’t popular and you forget about it but you think it’d be worth a purchase sometime. Or to remind you not to boot a game you regret buying

This is a very nice addition to Xbox live. And what some may not realize is that this may work for the Kinect update. Great job microsoft.

US Only ? really? OOOOH big america. Who cares about the rest of the world .. right Microsoft? and no comment from MS? hahahahah nice

Liking the ‘sort by price’ option. Can we have that for everything, like gamer pics, etc?

Great now where are my jrpgs and srpgs?

Will it require dashboard update?
Are there any news what other enhancements it will bring?
When it comes to Old Continent?

They better start cracking and try to make this integrated with the dashboard. Unless the whole Game Marketplace section is going to be revamped. Or is this a preview of the upcoming Kinect interaction. Oh well, I will have to wait till the 14th.

It dosen’t say it’s for US only, so read the article and stop complaining. Everything starts in the US and then shifts over later, it’s normal. Chances are, 3-4months later.

@Blood Hurricane: I had suggested something like that to Xbox Support.

To everyone else, this might not be US only. For now, its being launched in US. Elsewhere is unknown at this time.

Ya, as already said by other people I delete the Zune app, and then get forced to re-download it.
See, if you get a video that’s only on the Zune MP, and not at all in the XBox MP, you need the Zune app to view it, even though it’s in your purchase history.

I almost NEVER use the video marketplace because of the double loading. I have said it in the XBox forums, and I am saying it here :
Why nor just make a database file of all things on the storage device and update it as needed? I’m sure that the reserved space is not completely used up by the OS and cache. So, making a single file for this info that’s hidden or allowing the user to set a size limit through system options ONLY would keep the content search a lot smaller.
Then add a database for all videos just for the Zune app, and the waiting becomes a few seconds, not a few minutes.

@chiruno99 what you are saying about “Everything starts in the US and then shifts over later, it’s normal. Chances are, 3-4months later”

Here in Holland we have no Last.FM/ESPN/Hulu/Netflix.
Only stupid facebook and Twitter.

But we will beat Germany or Spain Sunday

Looks pretty cool can’t wait till next week. MS should really give the people outside the US a break, it won’t be fair if they don’t get this; they will lose a lot of customers this way.

I hope this comes to England soon. Looks great.

US Only *sigh*

We Europeans have
- a crippled ZUNE marketplace with <500 movies with no subtitles instead of thousands of movies and TV Series
- No Netflix
- No Indie games
- No Hulu
- No Last.FM

And we still pay the same for our service! I know about rights and stuff but there are surely alternatives or something more can be done!!!!

No Indie Games? germany and UK have Indie Games!! even the us games! why are there no indie games in the netherlands?

Have to agree and most points raised. If it launches quick then great, if not (as per Zune) it is a pain to wait for the load, even if it is just 10 seconds. We live in a “want it now” society and even short loads/waits feel like forever.

Concerned that this does appear to be US only, as a UK based, english speaking user, I have no problem dealing with “american english”. The UK, I think, is Microsofts biggest european user base, why not just release it in the UK too. I know we are constantly told about licencing issues and other things on software, but surely if this is a microsoft developed app then there shouldn’t be.

I have to say, I am finding the gap between what our US cousins and the UK are getting as definately getting worse for the UK. Our video store is a joke compared to the US one, and don’t get me going on Inside Xbox in the UK. Can we get the kinect event (Cirque) down yet? We couldn’t when we last checked.

I love my 360, and I love xbox live, but have to say Microsoft do make me jealous of what they give their “home” region. I feel like their “bit on the side”, and that I should be happy when they give me the time of day.

So lets count how many things the US has that everyone else doesn’t.
1: netflix
2: last fm
3: inside xbox news and more
4: hulu coming soon
5: espn coming this fall
6: wider seletion in zune as well as lower prices
7: cheaper games on demand
8: music videos
did i forget anything?…and after all of this i pay $10 more than the US despite the dollar pretty much always hovering right around parity…and now this app. Now some of this is excuseable (ex. netflix not even available in Canada) so I can’t blame MS for that one but things like this new app has no excuse other than laziness…even if it is coming later why not wait and launch it for everyone at the same time…it’s not like they’re charging for it and gonna make money any quicker by launching it there first…this is just bad business ethics…you’re keeping the US happy while pi**ing off everyone else…and all for a free app. I really wish that just once you guys in head office would smarten the hell up!

@Secluded Ghost & everyone else complaining about paying the same or more for Xbox Live.
You realize that most of the features you’re complaining about have nothing to do with Xbox Live Gold, right?
Indie Games/Video Marketplace Selection etc are exactly the same for Gold and Silver members & most of the other services (Hulu, ESPN, NetFlix) are only available in the US outside of XBL so there’s nothing Microsoft can do about that.
You get to play online, right? Well then, you’re paying for the same thing that most of the American Live members are paying for.
Does it suck that we don’t get a lot of the same stuff that the US does? Sure but the price you pay has nothing to do with 95% of the features you’re complaining for.
That said, this might just be a test case in the US and then it’ll be rolled into the Dashboard itself for everyone in the Fall update for all we know. Most of you are complaining about having to load apps anyway so I don’t see the big deal if we don’t get it.

I will check Destination Arcade from my US account

Destination Arcade is a good way to push more Arcade !

XBLIG is not in Netherlands and not also in Belgium…Maybe if Netherlands won the FIFA world Cup that will change (for Netherlands LoL).

There are more and more good games in XBLIG, it’s great.So maybe something from Microsoft in the next future…I hope !

14th of July is National day in France ^^

@++
Sined
For XBLA & XBLIG news -> http://www.xbla360.fr

I guess while im already kinda ranting i should menton to anyone high up at xbox that now that ps3 has luanched their video store in canada yuo might wanna consider lowering your rental prices…all prices hd and otherwise are over $2 cheaper and you have the ability to own movies as well…just something yuo might wanna give your head a shake about if you think im gonna pay over $8 dollars to rent your movies your mad…they are the same $2 cheaper on my dvr as well as my ps3…and anyone looking to start a flame war…don’t…im not a fanboy…i own all 3 systems and they all have their flaws…i do however find that im buying less and less for my 360…as someone who has over 100 arcade titles, over 10 god titles, 4 originals, 5 indies, and a load of add ons you really can’t afford to be letting the competitors have people like me buying on their system instead of yours…don’t get me wrong…ill still play my 360 the most but your losing my business in the digital content everytime you stiff other countries on content you could easily be giving us.

@mcmax… i know i mentioned price but i am actually more than happy to pay for my live at the current price it doesn’t bother me and as a matter of fact those feature are live related as many are for gold members only…i have not once thought i overpay for live…at a few dollars a month you’d have to be poor not to be able to afford it and in that case you shouldnt own a 360 in the first place

once we started getting regularily left out of feature on virtually every dash update i told my self i bought this thing for the games and ive been content ever since…its just that the other stuff is a tease…no i dont need…no ill probably never use most of it (facebook im talking to you) but when i see my 360 isnt doing everyhthing it can do i somehow feel cheated…i just hope that along this line of endless crap we gamers dont need that ms doesn’t lose their way and forget that no one but the hardcore gfot them to where they are in the gaming biz…which would be why almost if not every multiplayer game always sells more units on the 360…keep it hardcore ms forget the casual audience…kinect is not gonna move 360′s you’ve done all you can do…keep the hardcore happy…i my self have spent more on 360 related products inh the last five year than 100 casual consumers would have spent buying wii’s learn your audience and embraqce it…you think the attch rate for games to cosole owners in around 7 games per console try over 100 for any hardcore gamer

i really think the problem lies in people who don’t live in the us visiting this ite… as Major is american he likes to let them know whats up problem is…lots of people who visit mn.com are not americans…so we need to stop looking here for info for our countries feature or he needs to start getting info for all of us…but lets not kid ourselves he does enough already…let go count the comments and see how many are us and how many are not

US comments – 41
others – 56
the reason for this…we others have no one to tell us what’s upcoming so we come here to see whats up…and for the most part it’s globally related news on what’s coming but in some cases we get a tease of what’s coming to the US and go “hey we want that” as for the americans who tell us to stop whining… I seem to recall you guys being upset when canada got 1 vs 100 before you…now imagine if almost every new feature you either didn’t get or had to wait for 2 years…you know you’d be sobbing all over the place.

it does make the arcade section look a little cleaner & like OnLive’s interface, I hope that it won’t slow down the dashboard.

It is curious as to why it looks like it is coming to the US only as it looks like it involves only updating the Arcade section of Live & not adding new content that would require complying with localization laws or polices in other territories.

Yet another US only program…. i guess no-one else in the world uses XBLA?

Well.
So AceyBongos just confirmed this is not coming to Europe. So yeah, that makes it US exclusive.

Thanks. Huzzah. Whatever…

@Secluded Ghost: The amount of whining is constant, really, and Destination Arcade makes no difference whatsoever. The services of the 360 will forever be US centric, that’s that, and no harm done. It’s a gigantic market area well worth securing even on its own and as for the whining from the rest of the world, no one cares about unintelligible criticism. English is fine and all but in the end, it’s the wallet that acts as a universal language capable of conveying the message.

@Secluded Ghost,

So what you are saying is this: when you are poor, you don’t have the right to work hard for some fun.. Like Xbox or PS3 or Wii, that is pure discrimination everybody has the rights to have the same services as a rich ass like you.. point taken.. my point of view get the live services right for every country. look at prices of the arcade and content older then 5 years they can be cheaper.. Also i think microsoft/xbox take the first step in doing this by giving us the gold family pack 4 of the price of 2.. also the themes and premium themes are to old to pay for it.. if they could handel with the market pricing it was a lot of better on the xbox 360.. Example i can buy a movie on DVD for 2 dollars that microsoft ask me to rent for 4 dollars.. that is microsoft his problem asking points/money for stuff that is old eventually they wil kill them selfs by there own prices for conten, games and videos..

It’s looking very intriguing. I definitely want to try it out.

Those of you asking after Destination Arcade: It’s US only for the mo to see how it performs, no news on Europe launch yet. Sorry bout that.

From Aceybongos.

Woohoo, another US Only thing. Lets forget European users .

US only to see how it performs? Someone remind me, did they do that with the Facebook and Twitter apps when they were released? As far as I can tell it’s simply a different way of presenting XBLA games, current and new, so I can’t see the licences which exist on the current setup being much of an issue. Unless, of course, the issue is down to incompetent programmers who are having problems with licences, other than US licences, working with the app.

@slider2nl…wow I knew i stopped posting comments on this site for a reason…everyone always misconstrues everything so badly…first off I am far from rich…the amount of xbox products i have is simply because any money i have left over from bills my mortgage my kids my wife our 4 pets i like to spend on xbox anything and allows me to unwind from all that other stuff…and the point i made about poor people was not to say they can work harder and still not deserve to have fun…don’t assume you understand where im coming from with a sentence and put words in my mouth…i was merely making the point that some people..perhaps a bad father who buys an xbox 360 when his little girls need new clothes for school or something doesnt need an xbox…i don’t know where you get off thinking you know the way i think…no harm done though cause this will be the last comment i leave on this site…when i can’t even leave an opinion on something without starting a fu**ing flame war than it’s not worth expressing my opinion in the first place…grow up!

I’m guessing this is so it can support Kinnect gestures?

I don’t think I’ll bother with it though not a fan of downloaded apps on the xbox.

I assume the shift of functionality from PROM -> hard drive/memory stick is simply to allow for extra functionality in the boot PROM, ‘pretty graphics’ in PROM or party features? I’d go with the features (mostly). I do miss being able to simply play video files though, but as MS are clearly looking to preserve my investment in my 360 over a reasonably long time period I’m happy them shuffling out most features I don’t need most of the time into slower storage and free up the room in the PROM for core (kernel) features and additional hardware support.

Looks better but i am sorry the name is just so stupid / gay.

And…. when is it coming to the rest of the world?

Looks cool

look Good

@Secluded Ghost

The reason anyone would think you or someone else on here is rich is because the xbox community is extremely well known for being the poorest SOB’s you will ever see. You will see 2 or more people on one console, you will see people having an uproar over DLC costing a whopping 800 points only, you will see people that can’t even afford head sets after they buy their xbox off ebay. The list goes on and on with how generic and poor most of the xbox users are. Well that and the kids parent’s won’t buy them the stuff so then they go with the band wagon of “oh this should be free, I am not buying that” or “That isn’t justified to cost that much so I won’t buy it”, just more bs from the poor bastards and kids. Anyone that can actually buy some of this stuff looks rich compare to them, hell I feel like Mr.Bill gates when it comes to playing with these people. So there is no reason to you have to explain on how you get your stuff to such people.

@TG kolz4ever…good point…I’ve never understood why every 360 owner is so bitchy…you make very good points…I’ve always considered our deals we get as well as prices to be quite fair… but I guess when someone is a whiny cheap a** or a kid and mommy or daddy won’t buy you that new 360 product you have to get up in arms and demand everything be free

@Secluded Ghost

Yep, that’s exactly it. It’s always guaranteed to be one of those that bitch about the prices. Some prices like the cod dlc I am kind of bothered a little by and stuff like the dlc for l4d being free on the pc is a bother but whatever. I just get them because I want more out of my games and long as the games are fun I will pay for more. When I see 2 or more people on console it just looks so damn poor. I am like stop playing games if they cost that much you have to actually go over to someones house to play them. I am always buying point cards because so much dlc comes out. As I said, compare to these poor bastards and kids I feel like Bill Gates for being able to buy all this stuff with out having to jump on the band wagon of “this should be free”. They want everything free because either mommy won’t buy it for them or they can’t afford a simple 20 dollar card at the time, lol.. That’s all there is to it.

USA Only again? We play the same (if not higher) gold prices as the USA, yet we don’t get as many features?

This is bullshit. You would think atleast us Canadians would get it too.

@Heyy Youu

You got 1 vs 100 beta so put a hockey puck in your mouth and shut it. Xbox is based in the US so we get the stuff first to play with. When the bugs are worked out then you will get it so stop your crying!

Thanks for screwing Europe again. At least, give the update to UK residents.

I thought we where brothers USA and UK :”( (cries…) and walks away !!!

Thanks for screwing Europe again. At least, give the update to UK residents.

I thought we where brothers USA and UK :”( (cries…) and walks away !!!

@Secluded Ghost

I made my point earlier.. i wil stick with that

By the way, i have nothing to complain here. we got 2x 360′s, PS3, wii, 2 Gaming pc’s, 2 laptops and 2 iphones, a nice house, married, kid on the way and i am living a good life..

And as i mentioned why not combine some things in a new dash update

ooh and yeah poor people are people too..

That’s all..

@ Slider2nl

Cool story bro

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