January 31st 2013 11:11 am PT

Netflix Unlocked this weekend on Xbox

It’s a big week for the Xbox community. Check out the latest entertainment news below.

Netflix Unlocked this weekend on Xbox
Access to the Netflix app is unlocked this weekend on Xbox! Watch every episode of the new Netflix original series "House of Cards" premiering Feb. 1. Xbox will unlock the Netflix app, so all LIVE users with a Netflix subscription can watch all weekend long. (All Netflix regions)

Let Xbox join you for The Big Game
Super Bowl XLVII is right around the corner and starting today, Xbox will be bringing you exclusive content from some of your favorite entertainment providers.  Just in time for the big game, you can access the Hulu AdZone *and watch your favorite commercials from this year’s Super Bowl, as well as commercials from as far back as 2008.. Also, be sure to check out videos and clips from Maxim including daily favorites like “Lingerie Football” and “Tailgating Maxim Style” as well as special programming from partners like Crunchyroll, EPIX, iHeartRadio and DailyMotion. To access all of our Super Bowl content, just locate the “Ready to Rumble” tile on the home screen of the Xbox dash. This will take you to the Sports Hub where you’ll find a tile called “The Last Game Is Also The Biggest.” (US only)

*Xbox LIVE Gold subscription and/or additional subscriptions/fees may be required and sold separately. Kinect functionality available with select Xbox LIVE content and varies by feature and country. For additional details and availability, see http://www.xbox.com/live.

Update: Edited for clarity

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  • http://twitter.com/JAYLEXPWn Alex

    No subscription to watch more ADs on Hulu Plus no thanks.

  • http://twitter.com/StrikeSudden StrikeSudden

    Will have to try Hulu. Did the one month when I got to xbox live was not real impressed. Maybe it has changed.

  • http://twitter.com/lucrichard Luc Richard

    What do you mean by “unlocked”?

  • Bryant Linson

    I’m pretty sure the people that afford Netflix already can afford Xbox Live. Good deal for Hulu though! Although you can already do that on the computer.

    • mirage2k6

      It’s not about cost. I have a 2nd xbox that I use as an extender to my HTPC. I already pay for live on my first xbox, and pay for netflix. Why can’t I watch netflix on my second xbox without paying for a 2nd XBL subscription? The 2nd xbox is just used to stream tv/movies from my HTPC.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=619165862 Arne Helseth

        Eh, what? You only pay once, just logon with the same gamertag on both.

  • Lex_407

    Personally, Netflix “should” be unlocked all the time.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

      It’s sad that it is free for all PSN users and the PS3 netflix is much better than the xbox app. xbox doesn’t even have shows in 1080p

      • Sinister Kahuna

        No 1080p? Really…? *stares blankly*

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

          my TV tells me when it changes resolution, it switches to 1280 by 720 when it goes to netflix on xbox, but it remains 1920 by 1080 when on ps3.

          now on games for both yes it is the 720p, but for netflix ps3 has the higher resolution. also on ps3 there isn’t the annoying ” you highlighted this show or movie lets play 3 minutes of it. I also think it looks better but the big thing is resolution for me.

          • Alex_Atkin_UK

            There is also the fact you don’t have to unplug Kinect on the PS3 version. (due it to detecting speech in the movie and triggering things like stop)

            That said I had to unplug Kinect anyway for the same reasons when playing Need for Speed Most Wanted. As every time that game picks up (false) Kinect commands it hides the mini-map.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liquidfx-Xboxdude/100003184837175 Liquidfx Xboxdude

        so netflix is completely free on PSN?

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liquidfx-Xboxdude/100003184837175 Liquidfx Xboxdude

          No? thats what i thought. lol

          • Nicholas Gatewood

            Don’t be a ‘tard, you just don’t have to pay any EXTRA monthly fees on top of the Netflix fee and obvious ones like electric and internet fees. With the 360, you have to pay the Xbox Live Gold fee to access Netflix. This is why more than half of Netflix usage is on PS3s and the PS3 is the #1 development platform for the Netflix service while the 360 isn’t all that important to Netflix. Microsoft’s greed isn’t even smart, it hurts themselves. It’s nonsensical and hilarious.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            honestly what MS should do is include netflix, hulu plus, and all these other apps in the gold subscription price, I wouldn’t mind paying $60 a year if I got netflix hulu and crunchy roll included.

          • Avatar Roku

            Netflix costs $8 a month or about $100 a year. Same for Hulu Plus. So you’re saying you wouldn’t mind paying $60 a year to get services that cost over $300 right now? Wow that’s amazingly generous of you. I’m sure Hollywood is just dying to give you access to their content for so little money.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            um yea it would make gold value I wonder how many people would become gold members simply for netflix and hulu if they no longer had to pay for netflix or hulu plus after being a gold member, It could be as successful as the PS2 was because it was a DVD player.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            No one buys gold to be able to use apps, they buy gold to play online MP, everyone should look at these things as perks if you already pay for gold for MP anyways. And don’t go thinking I don’t see the point of free apps hidden behind a paywall, I do. It just really such a miniscule amount to pay on an annual basis anyhow who would really care?

          • Alex_Atkin_UK

            Maybe not, but a friend of mine who is on my family pack ONLY uses Gold to watch Netflix. If I decide not to renew, he would have to buy a dedicated Netflix box which is totally stupid.

            More importantly, his parents cannot watch Netflix when he brings his Xbox memory card round here to play Rock Band 3.

            The whole situation just stinks. Right from not REALLY knowing when my friend is online as it might just be his parents watching Netflix, to not getting to play Rock Band 3 as much with him as sometimes he has to leave his profile at home so his parents can use Netflix. By tying Netflix to Gold its actually having a detrimental effect on my friends ability to GAME, which is stupid when its a GAMES console.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            You see while I agree with you that hiding netflix and other apps behind the paywall, for myself, I look at it like this. I have been gold for the past 8 years (not once have I ever been silver) I pay for the online MP portion of my games and everything else I got with gold, I look at like a perk and this is why I’m content with gold.
            I do agree with you on how ridiculous MS is by doing this and it sucks about your friend and your gold family plan.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            What the hell? PS3 is the #1 development platform for the netflix service? Are you stupid or completely misinformed? I assure you the first development platforms with netflix in mind are set top boxes, and smart tvs… not gaming consoles.
            Also the way I see it, I’m not paying anything to access netflix.. I’m paying for MP access just as I have been since 2005. Having netflix on the console is just an added perk.
            Should they hide Netflix, cloud storage and every other app available behind the Gold wall… absolutely not and this might be the only thing I agree with you on.

        • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

          It’s also free on the PC and every set top box and blue ray player out there… this includes Roku as well. You honestly didn’t know this???

          • Alex_Atkin_UK

            If you are lucky enough to be in the US perhaps. In the UK it utterly sucks as only the 2012+ model Bluray players support Netflix as they decided to use a more complicated DRM for the UK service that older hardware couldn’t handle.

            It doubly sucks as I only watch the US Netflix anyway, but cannot get it enabled on my Bluray player unless I re-register it to a US address.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            I didn’t know you were from the UK. I heard from quite of few of my UK xbox live friends that the Netflix version in the U.S. gets far more content. How do you access the U.S. netflix anyhow? Just curious?
            On a side note I also hear that PSN download speeds are much better throughout not just the UK but most of Europe compared to what we get here in the states. Are you PSN download speeds up to par with your xbl dl speeds over there? Over here they are roughly 4x slower than what I get with xbl.

          • Alex_Atkin_UK

            It varies. As I am on 70Mbit broadband BOTH services are a huge let down there as often they do the same speed as I had before, 5Mbit.

            I don’t think I have ever seen Xbox go over 17Mbit and generally PSN is even slower, although a few times it actually did around 40Mbit and I nearly fell off my chair.

            Its hugely unpredictable and unusual as it doesn’t seem to be to do with the servers, unless they specifically detect the console and slow down. As if you download the same URLs on PC (by using a proxy server to figure out what they are) you get full speed. I don’t think the Xbox lets you do that, but the PS Vita and PS3 do.

            Xbox certainly seems more consistent with background download speeds though. I believe its locked at 5Mbit when in-game but cranks up to around 17Mbit on the dashboard.

            That said, the Wii U is even worse. With the built in flash memory it struggles along at 5Mbit but can reach 17Mbit if you plug in an external HDD. The real kicker is that its faster on WiFi than if you plug a Wii ethernet adapter in, lol, very bizarre. Even more unusual, if I use a proxy server and download a file, delete it THEN download again (so its coming straight off my proxy server), it goes super fast. So its confusing why its slow coming off the Internet but fast from a local cache, when my broadband is capable of the same speed it does off the cached version.

            So overall, all games consoles are pretty poor when it comes to network speeds which sucks for people on fibre broadband. Lets hope the next Xbox fixes that as once digital downloads start hitting 25GB we are REALLY going to need it.

            By comparison Steam on PC gets very close to my maximum speed.

      • http://www.MoneyNing.com/ www.MoneyNing.com

        I agree. It is free for Wii users as well. I am not sure why Xbox charges a fee for the app. I have to wonder and have asked this a few times. Once you download the app can you cancel the Gold Membership or does that cancel all your Gold Membership apps as well?

        ~~Yvette

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      It should be available for Silver members, but I honestly don’t mind paying as I don’t like using my PS3 for anything other than playing a few decent exclusives I can literally count on one hand.

      • http://twitter.com/yesmynameissumo Sumo Attuquayefio

        PS3 Netflix app kill the 360′s. And I just have to pay Netflix to use it. I use my 360 as a paperweight. No fees that way.

        • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

          This isn’t about whether you use your 360 as a paperwieght or not. Both apps are the same except for to things. Native 1080P streaming and no stupid auto starts that the PS3 has. Personally I prefer the PS3 app as well because it is the exact same app I have on my Sony Bluray player.
          In the end though, I don’t use my PS3 for anything though. It’s a paperweight to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=619165862 Arne Helseth

    So… We can ONLY access the Hulu AdZone without a Hulu Plus subscription? Missed opportunity if so.

  • Jason Turner

    “Xbox will unlock the Netflix app, so all LIVE users with a Netflix subscription can watch all weekend long.” I’m confused…how is this different from every other day? If you have Xbox Live, and you have a Netflix account, you always have access. Am I missing something here? Was this just worded incorrectly?

    • docalien

      If I’m not mistaken, Netflix requires a Gold subscription. This weekend, it will not.

    • http://twitter.com/StrikeSudden StrikeSudden

      I think that you get some features on live when you are a silver user. They may just be calling that group live users now.

  • http://twitter.com/mc_wetty Dave Wetty

    BFD. Should be unlocked anyway. XBL is a joke.

    • Nick Peck

      Then why are you here? Just to sit around and post fantastic posts like yours in every thread? Go back and rub up and down on the sony forums as no one here cares. If you think $40 a year is a lot to pay for XBL then you need a new hobby.

      • G2

        Maybe he’s a current or former subscriber like many that are fed up with the value it’s offering. Netflix is unlocked 100% of the time on almost every other platform, if not everyone one. I’m not sure how you can really champion locking the app with that considered. It really is ridiculous, regardless of the price of Live.

        • http://twitter.com/mc_wetty Dave Wetty

          Thank you person with brains.

      • http://twitter.com/Jeverage Jeff K

        His snarky remarks could have been worded better, but his point is valid. If you want to use Netflix on Xbox you have to pay Netflix AND Microsoft. In a world where every other platform is providing this service (In some cases even better service) for free, the situation is patently ridiculous.

        Paying for Live Gold made sense ten years ago. It doesn’t anymore, and the sheer value offered by services like Playstation Plus should be downright embarassing for Microsoft.

        If “no one here cares,” they should care. They are being exploited. I am not pro-Sony or anti-Microsoft, I’m pro-consumer. I own all three consoles and enjoy all of them. The current Xbox Live subscription model is insulting. It must change, and it will only happen if people stop baselessly defending them. Microsoft is a big company, it doesn’t need your help. Fight for your fellow consumers.

        • http://twitter.com/mc_wetty Dave Wetty

          Another person with brains. My faith is slowly being restored.

      • Russell Gorall

        When you expect little, you get little.

      • http://twitter.com/mc_wetty Dave Wetty

        I’ve been a loyal XBL gold user since it was in beta.

        I post this because, while I don’t mind paying for gold, I expect to get value out of it. And in the last year or so, that value has vanished. I’m tired of being exploited and, while you may be content being pegged for $60/yr, I am not. So bend over and let MS quietly take your money. I’ll be the vocal one letting them know when their customers aren’t happy.

        • Boss Saucier

          That is funny. First off, you are a “loyal XBL gold user”? Purchasing a service does not make you loyal. That doesn’t even make sense. Why would want to be loyal to a corporation? They are not loyal to you. They like everybody’s money equally.

          Second, how has the value of XBL vanished? They keep adding more and more features, not taking them away.

          If you don’t like it, then don’t buy it. That is fine, but don’t think you represent the majority, and don’t think you are better than others just because you don’t enjoy paying for a luxury service. I work hard for my money too and I don’t mind paying others for their work.

    • Sinister Kahuna

      While Netflix and other (non MS) subscription based apps should most likely be available to Silver users, XBL, while not as good of a value as it one was is hardly a joke. Perhaps the Nintendo Wii is more your speed.

  • http://twitter.com/Ganon255 Ganon255

    Just leave it this way. I have no problems paying a subscription for Xbox Live, but access to apps and such should be free for all. Take a look around at the competition, nobody else is charging for access to apps on other services. This is one area that Xbox is being stubborn and archaic. I think of my mother(non gamer/casual) who bought a 360 for Netflix only to find out that she has to pay an additional $8 a month or $60 a year(retail) for access to an app that already charges a subscription. Lets fix this.

    • http://twitter.com/greensky greensky

      I came here to say the same thing. Paying for online gaming seems reasonable, but paying to use 3rd party apps that use the open Internet just seems like a waste of money.

      • Guest

        The Open Internet?

        • http://twitter.com/greensky greensky

          By “Open Internet” I meant sites/services that use the Internet and not Microsoft’s servers (even though I do understand all that data travels over the Internet).

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            if MS had servers for everyone to use it would be fine, but pretty much no games use servers, they are all p2p or host-> client. COD doesn’t have servers, Halo doesn’t have servers, borderlands doesn’t have servers ( well they might have a playlist server but that is entirely different) the matches are run off YOUR internet, MS has little to do with it. you are kidding yourself if you think COD is running off a server in a data center that your subscription pays for.

          • http://twitter.com/Ganon255 Ganon255

            I would really love to see dedicated servers come to Xbox Live

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            a part of me wants to see it as well but another part doesn’t. Server connections are awesome but with older games they shut down the servers, imagine trying to play halo 3 only to find you can’t no more servers, also as internet speeds get better the server connection isn’t as necessary as it once was. though you can still get matches where the host is ungodly powerful or it lags real bad for 3 people and they never die, its much rarer then before.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            Actually there is a huge downside to dedicated servers.. They can be shut down alot sooner than a P to P would. You know how quickly EA kills their servers because they are dedicated? People tend to forget this little pro toward peer to peer gaming..

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            EA only shuts down servers when pretty much no one plays the game… I mean, they just recently shut down sims 2 servers, for those that don’t know sims 2 is like 6 years old. and it wasn’t even really online iirc.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            They shut down their annual sports games a month or two before then next annual interation hits, thus forcing everyone to upgrade from Madden 12 to Madden 13. Believe me I’m sure you are correct that they shut down servers that no one plays anymore… matter of fact out of every publisher/developer out there EA would be the one (in my mind’s eye) who would likely be prone to doing this first, I agree. But when it comes to EA, Completionists like myself can’t trust them.. and yes I like to get every acheivement out of my games as well.
            I know what you are saying is right, but they shut down servers whenever they see fit for whatever reason, much more so than anyone else in the industry to the best of my knowlege anyhow.

          • http://twitter.com/greensky greensky

            Oh, I had no idea. I don’t have Xbox Gold so I never looked into it. That’s a crazy cash-cow for them then.

          • ryder4life22187

            But MS does host on their servers all the games, and updates. What you think a company like MS would not want to have any income look what’s happening to Sony wont be too long in the near future when they are going down the drain.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            wow you honestly think all 360 games are run on servers? they aren’t I promise you, try looking it up google is your friend. there are a few ( battlefield series, actually i think all EA games are run on EA servers) but for the most part they aren’t.. COD? Host/client this is why a host can leave and the match will end/find new host, a server doesn’t cut out like that.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bennie-Hair/705413650 Bennie Hair

            @facebook-1036013363:disqus *slow clap* Finally someone gets it!! Xbox Live has lost it’s value over the years.

            Next gen they need to make sure that value is restored.
            If multiplayer wasn’t behind a pay wall, I’m curious, how many of you would still pay?

    • Guest

      Ummm…

      AppleTV: Must pay for netflix
      PS3: Must pay for netflix
      Roku: Must pay for netflix
      Wii: Must pay for netflix

      Not sure who youre referring to about being able to use Netflix for free? Or similar services for free for that matter. The NHL apps /NFL /MLB all have subscription fees to them. Who’s the magical company/product where you get this stuff for free?

      And please dont say Crackle. That’s a joke of a service.

      I’m not disagreeing with you on the fact that it SHOULD be free. I totally agree with you. I just dont know of any other system that gives out free content on par with Netflix.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

        um…
        do you need to pay sony to use netfix? no
        do you need to pay apple to use netflix? no
        do you need to pay nintendo to use netflix? no
        do you need to pay MS to use netflix? Yes.

        • http://twitter.com/Ganon255 Ganon255

          thank you

      • http://twitter.com/Ganon255 Ganon255

        I am not referring to Netflix or other apps charging a subscription, I am referring to it being required to be a Gold member to use Netflix and other apps. I think I was pretty clear, you misunderstood.

      • chex_mix

        LOL! *in John Madden voice circling the guy above me with the tele-strater thing*
        Here’s a guy who completely misread what the person he is replying to said.

      • Russell Gorall

        Is reading your second language?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

      if you take a look at the competition, no one pays to play online either, except with xbox, when xbox live started other than PC ( and even that was pretty mediocre) it was impossible to play online without a terrible and laggy game. times have changed, live should be free. with the wii-u’s pretty smooth and free online, the PSN network being much faster, and PC being on par or better than all 3 there is 0 reason people should be defending gold costs.

      well, Fanboys and uninformed defend it, but that’s up to them I suppose.

      • http://twitter.com/Ganon255 Ganon255

        This is true, but I feel the Xbox Live service is superior, and thus, worth the subscription fee.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

          back when the ps3 launched I would agree, but after using ps3 for about 2 years now, I can tell you xbox live is NOT worth $60 a year… xbox live is still the best console service but it isn’t worth the price paid. even the $35 a year sale price isn’t worth it. it’s time for MS to make xbox live free and just have superior service be a reason to get the console instead of an overpriced subscription.

          • ryder4life22187

            Sounds to me you just can’t afford to have both services at the same time. I never pay 60 nor do i ever pay close to that. I look at it as MS does what they have to do to make it safe and enjoyable and a small fee does not bother me, just like i want to go some place i have to pay for insurance as well as put gas in the car, maybe we shouldn’t have to pay for gas as we pay for insurance

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            you don’t know how insurance works do you, you have to have insurance for the person you are hitting, your insurance won’t fix you car ( unless you pay for it too) it pays when you crash into someone and pays to repair their car and medical bills upto the agreed insurance amount.

            . also gasoline is a physical object, a digital item or service is not, a better scenario is this.

            lets say satellite TV is free 100% free, you can pay $50 a year for the super premium package, but don’t have too. the premium package comes with 5 select movie downloads per month and as long as you stay on the premium package you can watch those past movies as much as you want.

            Your other option is cable which has the same shows and everything as the fee satellite TV but it costs $60 a year, there is no premium package but it doesn’t offer the premium benefits of the satellite.

            In good faith could you honestly say you would rather get the cable over satellite in this scenario?

          • http://twitter.com/MrXBob Mr XBob

            And then in 3 years have to shut it down because it’s not economically feasible? yeah, that’s a fantastic idea. Why didn’t they think of that!

            Because it’s stupid.

      • http://twitter.com/MrXBob Mr XBob

        You have no idea how much money Sony and Nintendo lose daily by not charging a subscription fee. Microsoft had the right idea from the start – which is why the subscription fee will never go away and (eventually) Sony will start to charge a subscription fee (PS+ is the first sign).

        It costs a LOT of money – far more than you can imagine – to run Xbox Live. Thousands of people build it, run it maintain it, update it, roll out new features, give customer support, keep it moderated (the ban hammer isn’t an automated process).

        Without all of that, we’re left with a very basic service (see: PSN and Wii/Wii U). And not just basic, but hardly ever updated, where hackers and cheaters can run riot, where modded consoles can play online and where new features are seldom added.

        I’m glad to pay the very TINY amount that we pay for a year’s subscription. Not only does that money go towards making the service better and keeping it in top condition, but it also goes towards getting exclusive DLC contracts and making a more enticing platform for smaller developers too.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

          um, no, you are buying into fanboy propaganda. first off, PSN won’t cost a subscription, PSN+ is a bonus, it isn’t a sign, and to be honest if I needed PSN+ to play online It wouldn’t bother me because they throw out the red carpet for their members. chances are it won’t though, PSN will still be free, and still get better year after year while xbox remains stagnant.

          you are an idiot if you think hackers and cheaters run rampant on the wii-u and ps3 compared to the 360. how about you play COD WaW? please find a match without at least 1 person cheating. people have been cheating on xbox live since the original xbox so please stop being dumb. you act as if every game on ps3 there is a cheater, well you proved right there you are a fanboy.

          Smaller developers? you realize MS has done nothing but push away smaller developers right? have you heard of FEZ? the developers couldn’t patch the game because MS wanted to charge them $40k just to update it!
          Remember oddworld strangers wrath? that wasn’t put on xbox live because MS wanted to make them charge $20 because the file was over 2gb the developers decided to cut ties with MS iirc as well.

          Try looking into these things before spouting nonsense.

          • http://twitter.com/MrXBob Mr XBob

            First of all – quit with the “oh no he disagrees he must be a fanboy” skit – you sound like you’re 12 years old. Grow up and discuss this like an adult.

            Secondly, PSN cannot compete with Xbox Live (services, features, constant updates, customer support etc) for free. Which is why it’s not even close to being as good as Xbox Live yet. When that day comes, Sony will have to get some kind of revenue going to keep it running. It’s simple economics.

            Please, please. Tell me how you believe Xbox has “remained stagnant” or how on earth you imagine it will do in the future? It is the only service that has constantly received updates, new features, a HELL of a lot of new apps, updated features and not to mention entirely new OS upgrades to the dashboard appearance and functionality. (Something which no other console has ever done).

            I am not an “idiot”. I am realistic. The mere fact that Microsoft has a large staff of “enforcers” constantly looking into every report that players make proves that Xbox Live is the more secure service. PSN is by no means a no-mans-land, but the stats show it’s far easier to mod your console and play pirated games *online* on PSN – whereas Xbox Live will ban your gamertag AND console when it detects such behaviour. That’s just a technological fact, and if you deny it you’re living in a dream world (and honestly with all this “you’re a fanboy” talk, I’m starting to think you might be a troll since you’re on the Major Nelson site calling Xbox users fanboys. Huh.).

            People cheat on every platform. Please show me where I said they don’t? I never said Xbox Live was the cleanest gaming environment. I said it’s less of a bother COMPARED to PSN and Wii/Wii U (again, a fact).

            I love how you bring up Fez. One of the very few incidents. How about we talk about the thousands of other XBLA/Indie titles that are on the service? Grow up. You simply cannot cherry pick things in order to bolster your weak argument.

            I’d love to see what you have to say to this – you’re simply coming off as an anti-Microsoft troll. Honestly I find it pretty amusing, but seriously. Get a grip, take a breath, and try to have a serious discussing instead of running your mouth off about things you don’t understand.

            SIMPLE FACT: Services such as Xbox Live cannot be run for free. When PSN/Wii have online services at the level that Xbox provides, then we’ll talk. But they simply do not. Facts are facts. Sony and Nintendo LOSE money by running online services for “free”. If you don’t believe that, you must be a very young person who has no idea of the cost of things.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            um, you ARE a fanboy and you have continued to prove it with your posts.

            you said PSN can’t compete with XBL? PSN has every feature xbox has except party chat and it’s known that that will be coming with next consoles. so right there you are proven wrong.

            Xbox has remained stagnant since the update with party chat, there has been no real updates to quality. so since about 2009 we have been paying for nothing but very bad dashboard updates.

            Actually, it is easier to pirate an xbox 360 as all you have to do is flash the disk drive, the 360 has been hacked since 2 weeks after launch hate to break it too you but the ps3 has only been cracked (though it is far bigger deal) for about 6 months… oh yea they DO NOT ban gamertags when you pirate games, that said piracy is not a real problem in the gaming industry, the amount of people who pirate on consoles is VERY small, and on PC it’s still pretty small. MS does ban consoles but that is about it. Lets also point out that fact that people who play pirated games online are by no means cheaters, in fact you would never know.

            I brought up Fez and strangers wrath which are 2 very real issues I am sure there are others out there Minecraft had to have some SERIOUS negotiation for their free updates, and iirc they only get 5 free updates the rest they have to pay, minecraft is arguably the biggest indie game of all time, so MS was probably willing to let some slide.

            Anti MS? Who the heck cares who makes the console? I sure don’t, I’m a gamer If a 4 year old made a console or game and it was good i’d play it and say it’s good. what matters is the content, the quality and the value.
            content? PS3 has been constantly pushing out exclusives and high end games, MS since 2010 we haven’t got 1 game that wasn’t halo fable gears or forza as a first party exclusive.

            Quality wise both are pretty equal, older xboxes red ring blah blah, but ps3 had a very shaky start as well with bad online.

            Value PS3 wins hands down with free online, optional PSN+ free MMOs to play, playstation home for some free mini games, and the apps are free to use on ps3, and at least with netflix, they are BETTER on ps3. I’m sure I am missing some, and I know I didn’t mention the wii-u ( haven’t gotten one yet) but you get the basic idea.

            oh your simple fact thing yea… you realize every game sold MS takes a cut right? same with sony and nintendo, they take a portion of each sale, a $60 game probably gives $5 so to MS. same with online purchases, rentals ect. the services to run these are made back up easily with actual sales of games.

            lets not forget PC though, you don’t have to pay to play any non-mmo PC game to my knowledge, so what you must be saying is magically money disappears from them right? it doesn’t in case you are wondering running, though I couldn’t even guess how much XBL costs to run it is probably made up with advertisements on the dashboard alone, forget gold membership, the sales of games and over priced accessories (seriously 250gb HDD for $70 what is this 2005?) and digital content.

            I think that about answered all your false information, but if you have more please continue.

          • http://twitter.com/MrXBob Mr XBob

            Right, I got about half way through your wall of text and it’s just plainly obvious that you’re a PS3 troll.

            Don’t get me wrong here, I own most consoles and I’m far from being anti-Sony – but you’re clearly a PS3-only-owning fanboy. The brainwashing that is apparent in your comments is astonishing.

          • Sinister Kahuna

            Exactly! Even at the full price of $60, that’s only $5 a month. You can barely get a fast food meal deal for $5. I waited for a sale and my XBL is only $2.90 a month. I can’t even buy a gallon of gas for that.
            If a person really can’t afford it, then they need to find a job that pays better. If they’re not working (by choice), then they need to quit sniveling. Videogames are a luxury item, not a
            charity. The world doesn’t run on candy canes and rainbows.

          • ryder4life22187

            WOW all you could do is come up with one game COD WaW lmao. I’ve played it countless times even today all you gotta do is report and block a person that is cheating solved my problem. Yeah they throw out the red carpet enjoy those rentals while they last. Funny how when PS2 was on top it was all good n gravy now that xbox comes out on top all the Sony fan boys come out to defend PS+ if i wanted to rent a game id rather go to my local blockbuster or redbox at least i get to choose what i get to play rather than given a stupid game.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            Waw, Cod 4, GTA 4 are all rampant with hackers/cheaters.

          • http://twitter.com/MrXBob Mr XBob

            And this happens on PS3 too. I never said it didn’t happen on 360. I don’t know why you think I did.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            Actually as much as I think Curtis is a blind fanboy he does make good points now and then. He is right about WAW and nearly every older COD to date. What he fails to realize is that the reasony why there are more hackers on XBL is due to the fact that XBL is by far the more popular service. Also what he fails to realize is that a premium paid for service is more than likely to look into these hackers and modders alot faster than they would on a free piss poor service like PSN. To say otherwise goes against every facet of common sense.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            continue showing you are a fanboy. I never said that xbox or psn was faster to respond to hackers or cheaters, what I do know is with many older games the cheaters are rampant on xbox. since we pay so much I would think they would be banned in days, maybe weeks, maybe even months. of cheating, not never. I mean only so many people put in cod 4 every day. if they had 1 guy just play the game all day and insta ban cheaters they would knock out a huge chunk of them pretty fast. It’s not like it’s hard to detect the invincible guy or the dude flying.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            Showing I’m a fanboy? No I’m an educated gamer who is let down and disgusted as a whole with what Sony provided us with this generation when compared to Microsoft’s superior offering.. that’s who I am.
            A fanboy is someone who doesn’t admit to the cons and issues of their prefered platform… I hate to break it to you but I’m disgusted with the ads and the fact that these apps are not free and have been pretty vocal about that as well. Just because I have a preference that is completely justified doesn’t constititue as being a fanboy. I only come off as a fanboy because I love to diss the PS3 and PSN every chance I get because my experience with them was abysmal to say the least bud. I appologise for calling you one but you do have to remember that I agree with a few of your points as well.
            I still believe MS deals with cheaters far faster than PSN does and wouldn’t that be natural to assume that since we pay? That’s my point Curtis..
            Anyhow in the future, please dont use the fanboy thing with me, it just doesnt work. If you really wanted to know what I think about the PS3 console itself, you would definitely think I am a biased fanboy when in fact I earned the right to diss both consoles as I see fit… after owning them both off and on since launch. In regards to cheaters, I still believe MS does more when it comes to banning accounts than Sony does, no matter how it seems. Nearly every old COD is like this and I wouldn’t be surprised if I popped in WAW or MW1 on PSN to see the same number of cheaters to be honest with you. Actually no I wouldn’t… I retract that statement. COD is much more popular on 360 so you might be right.

          • http://twitter.com/TrashMKX Trash

            “educated gamer”? With a name of PSN IS GARBAGE? You need to grow up already.

          • http://twitter.com/MrXBob Mr XBob

            “Never”? Get a grip on reality. I personally have had around 13 people banned simply by reporting them. That you think it “never” happens is yet another testament to your anti-Xbox fanboyism. You’re wasting your time. Go away :)

      • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

        Are you even aware of the high probability that Sony will be charging for PSN next gen? If you ask me, PSN being free is it’s biggest con. It’s probably indirectly related with the service sucks as bad as it does on every level as well. I even find PSN+ to be a bigger scam than renting our MP through XBL.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

          so you haven’t used PSN since 2007? and there is 0 indication it will cost money, it’s just fanboy googles there has never been an indication or even a hint of charging to play online.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            Actually the same could be said for you. Fanboy goggles? No pal, I just have more business sense than you do. All you believe is consumers side to all of this. The plain basic fact that you can’t acknowlege that it would be in Sony best financial intrest to charge a sub for their already sub par service absolutely astounds me to be honest.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

            If sony started charging to play online a lot of their customers would probably avoid the console all together, so I am not sure it would benefit them as much as you think. financially maybe it would benefit them but at the risk of pissing off a large portion of their user base? usually a bad idea, plus it’s one of the selling points of their consoles, sorta like how when xbox had it’s selling point as exclusives and half way through this gen they stopped having them, and the ps3 started picking up steam.

          • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

            Not trying to be rude but you are really just telling me things I already know. Sure there is a strong possiblity alot of people would ditch the brand but IMO i don’t think that would be the case when the only free alternatives would be PC gaming (something that I absolutely detest) and Nintendo themeselves with the wii U. Sure I’m leaving out this Steambox thing because we don’t know a whole lot about that yet.
            I do agree with you on what you said about the exclusive problem with MS. I guess it doesn’t bother me as much as most people since the vast majority of what I play are multiplats.. 80% to 90% of 3rd party multiplats tend to be better on the 360 though and honestly I never have a shortage of games to play, must less the time to put into gaming on multiple platforms. My PS3 is just for the odd exclusives every blue moon. After The last of Us and Beyond, I’m probably going to sell it again.. but I am really looking forward to those 2! :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/macy.slator Macy Slator

      You sir/mam, make a lot of sense!! If MS was smart and they wanted to overtake the living room space, they would allow free access to these apps. You’ll get the entire family using the xbox as a media center, vs just a gaming console.

  • http://www.allthatgamingstuff.com/ JasonGW

    might be worth noting that on Wii, Wii U, 3DS, PS3, Windows 8, Windows Phone, iPhone, iPad and Android, Netflix is ALWAYS unlocked for subscribers, and ALWAYS free to use just by owning the device.
    Love my Xbox, and I’d never lose my Live subscription, but Microsoft is out of line to demand a live gold account to use the Netflix app, or indeed ANY app that already requires a paid subscription.

  • http://twitter.com/LarsKelley Lars Kelley

    You need to fix the Netflix app. Provide options like disabling auto playing of the next episode, until you fix this the Netflix app is worthless.

  • chex_mix

    I am going to have to agree with everyone else on here. It is frustrating that they are taking a feature/app that is free to access literally EVERYWHERE else and then advertising that as one of the “features/perks” of being an XBox Live Gold member. Poorly played Microsoft! Oh and since we always have a post about this, I will be “that guy”. If you are going to advertise the “Deal of the Week” as one of the perks of being a XBox Live Gold member then offer sales that are competitive with your competition’s pay services.

  • flabeo

    I just speak with my wallet, I loved xbox. But now it’s in the living room not even connected to the internet anymore. It’s used as an offline exercise machine for my wife.

    When we were looking at a secondary device when we bought the new house, this was the main reason we went elsewhere. We now have 3 AppleTV’s and two PS3′s 2/PS+ and therefore a bunch of free games/access to netflix. etc.

    Xbox is a great brand and a great product but if they’re trying to appeal to the everyday living room than this is something that needs to be fixed. Make me (and others) want to use my Xbox again!

  • Carlos Rodriguez

    I agree..as much as I love my Xbox, I have never been able to recommend in good faith a 360 to my nongaming friends and family because they would require a paid subscription to use it for apps they can access for free on PS3 Or set top boxes like Roku. This was a missed opportunity toTrojan horse an Xbox into non gaming living rooms.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bhenry677 Brenden Henry

    The “App” store is growing but still very limited. Would like to see the money we pay going into making the service better, you don’t really gain ANYTHING for paying for Gold other than playing your games online.

  • mrdeezus

    XBL is an awesome service for gaming and worth every penny. That being said, Netflix and all other video apps should be free to use, this is one thing that hopefully will change soon because as much as I like this is dumb.

  • ungeheier

    I cancelled Netflix back when they doubled their price (or whatever the scandal was back then). I got an email for a free month and used it at the start of this month. I was told I wouldnt be billed if I cancelled before Feb 1st. So, I did. Finny that it will still work this weekend though. I probably still wont use it though. heh

    • spamme

      Netflix kinda-sorta-didn’t double their price. They separated the DVD business into a separate plan. So you no longer received DVDs for $8; only streaming. If you wanted DVDs you had to pay an additional $8/month. The “scandal” was that Netflix tried to spin off the DVD business into a new business called Qwikster. That tactic failed miserably and DVDs were left as part of Netflix, but still requires the additional fee.

  • VTCarter

    Or maybe if you just didn’t need a “Gold” account to access things not operated by Microsoft…

  • spamme

    XBL is a joke right now. Not that it’s a bad service. It’s arguably the best network for gamer’s at the moment. The joke is that XBL Gold is actually worth the cost.

    The worst part of XBL’s paywall is how Silver members are treated.

    Silver members shouldn’t need to pay for XBL to watch Netflix or Hulu or stream music or browse the internet with IE. And that’s just the basics.

    What about those $60 games we pay for?

    Microsoft: “Oh sorry. You can’t play half of that $60 game you just paid for unless you pay us another $60 for our permission for you to play that content.”

    There are very few XBL features that aren’t free on every other internet-connected media device. These “features” need to be opened to Silver (read: non-paying) members of XBL.

    Once you take away all of those features you see how shallow the pay-for XBL experience is and start to wonder why Microsoft thinks $60 is a reasonable retail price (even the recent $35 sale is too much).

    As we approach the next generation of home game consoles it’s important that Microsoft take a long look at XBL and what they should and shouldn’t charge for. I refuse to buy another Xbox console if Microsoft continues to treat customers as they have been.

    • http://twitter.com/MrXBob Mr XBob

      You have no idea how bad Xbox Live would be without the subscription fee. You say “it’s arguably the best network for gamers at the moment” – and you’re right. Because of the fee. Microsoft can not run such a service for free. The Xbox division would have been out of business years ago if they tried to run it as it is now, for free.

      You have no idea how much money Sony and Nintendo lose daily by not charging a subscription fee. Microsoft had the right idea from the start – which is why the subscription fee will never go away and (eventually) Sony will start to charge a subscription fee (PS+ is the first sign).

      It costs a LOT of money – far more than you can imagine – to run Xbox Live. Thousands of people build it, run it maintain it, update it, roll out new features, give customer support, keep it moderated (the ban hammer isn’t an automated process).

      Without all of that, we’re left with a very basic service (see: PSN and Wii/Wii U). And not just basic, but hardly ever updated, where hackers and cheaters can run riot, where modded consoles can play online and where new features are seldom added.

      I’m glad to pay the very TINY amount that we pay for a year’s subscription. Not only does that money go towards making the service better and keeping it in top condition, but it also goes towards getting exclusive DLC contracts and making a more enticing platform for smaller developers too.

      • spamme

        Don’t make the assumption that people are ignorant about what goes on behind the scenes.

        Your other assumptions on competitor pricing is a moot argument until something official is announced.

        By using the #FreeXboxLive tag I am not saying XBL gold should be free. I’m saying free Xbox love of these arbitrary limitations for non-paying members and lower the price of XBL Gold to come closer to cost = value.

        I know you will just argue with me and I just don’t want to do the back and forth with someone like you right now. So say what you will. Try to justify XBL to make yourself feel better about the money you have spent and wil spend. That’s your choice.

        The gaming community is taking notice and making our voices heard. We’ll see if Microsft is listening.

        • http://twitter.com/MrXBob Mr XBob

          So what you’re saying is “I don’t believe what you said and I’m going to pretend I don’t care so that you don’t reply”?

          Cause really: can you seriously deny the fact that such a service costs millions of dollars to run? And can you seriously say that £34.99 a year is an atrociously high amount to pay for such a great service?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bush-O-Connor/555604190 Bush O Connor

            the ad revenue could and should pay for this.

        • Boss Saucier

          The funniest part of this argument is that you call yourself “the gaming community”. Big corporations don’t care about a few whiners on the internet. All you are doing is giving them more hits on this site. The real gaming community is busy buying and playing games; making the corporation millions of dollars. That is right, millions of dollars. You are naive to believe that any corporation actually cares about people. All that matters to any of them is the money and they are making a lot of it.

          I prefer to be grateful for what I do have instead of complainig about trivial issues like $5/month for a luxury service. There aren’t many things in life that are that cheap. When you all grow up you might realize this for yourself and you will be happier because of it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

        um, no, you are buying into fanboy propaganda. first off, PSN won’t cost a subscription, PSN+ is a bonus, it isn’t a sign, and to be honest if I needed PSN+ to play online It wouldn’t bother me because they throw out the red carpet for their members. chances are it won’t though, PSN will still be free, and still get better year after year while xbox remains stagnant.

        you are an idiot if you think hackers and cheaters run rampant on the wii-u and ps3 compared to the 360. how about you play COD WaW? please find a match without at least 1 person cheating. people have been cheating on xbox live since the original xbox so please stop being dumb. you act as if every game on ps3 there is a cheater, well you proved right there you are a fanboy.

        Smaller developers? you realize MS has done nothing but push away smaller developers right? have you heard of FEZ? the developers couldn’t patch the game because MS wanted to charge them $40k just to update it!
        Remember oddworld strangers wrath? that wasn’t put on xbox live because MS wanted to make them charge $20 because the file was over 2gb the developers decided to cut ties with MS iirc as well.

        Try looking into these things before spouting nonsense.

      • Russell Gorall

        This comment is laughable.

  • Russell Gorall

    Or just use your PS3 for this all the time…

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.muller3 Richard Muller

    netflix has already been payed for it shouldent be on the gold service it should be silver

  • http://twitter.com/MrXBob Mr XBob

    Although I agree with the general sentiment that Netflix and other such apps should be free to use for all Xbox owners – I do not agree that Xbox Live should be completely free.

    You have no idea how much money Sony and Nintendo lose daily by not charging a subscription fee. Microsoft had the right idea from the start – which is why the subscription fee will never go away and (eventually) Sony will start to charge a subscription fee (PS+ is the first sign).

    It costs a LOT of money – far more than you can imagine – to run Xbox Live. Thousands of people build it, run it maintain it, update it, roll out new features, give customer support, keep it moderated (the ban hammer isn’t an automated process).

    Without all of that, we’re left with a very basic service (see: PSN and Wii/Wii U). And not just basic, but hardly ever updated, where hackers and cheaters can run riot, where modded consoles can play online and where new features are seldom added.

    I’m glad to pay the very TINY amount that we pay for a year’s subscription. Not only does that money go towards making the service better and keeping it in top condition, but it also goes towards getting exclusive DLC contracts and making a more enticing platform for smaller developers too.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bush-O-Connor/555604190 Bush O Connor

      last time i checked its the xbox360 thats moddable and able to play online. havent looked into the scene in a while so maybe the ps3 is hacked now also?

  • http://twitter.com/herbertsnow herbertsnow

    Netflix should Aways be unlocked ! I’ll stick with my Roku. No silly account memberships to buy with a Roku.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnyFoerster Paul Panzer

    US only, US only, US only…
    Well, f*** you.
    Sincereley, rest of the world.

  • Russell Gorall

    Gold… the biggest scam in gaming history.

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      Not in comparison with PSN.. LOL not with my experience… and not by a longshot lol.

    • http://twitter.com/SpudimusPrime89 Andrew Falkenhan

      Right, totally a scam. Just like WarZ, oh wait, no it isn’t.

  • Sinister Kahuna

    This sounds pretty cool. It looks like I’ll be watching a bunch of movies this weekend!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/michaelhfox Michael Fox

    Wait – it’s not already free on Xbox to access Netflix, even if people already subscribe to Netflix?

    Weak.

    • Sanglant

      yes, it is, thats the confusing part for me, but I’m in Canada.

      • http://twitter.com/SpudimusPrime89 Andrew Falkenhan

        It’s because the apps on Xbox are only accessible to LIVE Gold members.

  • http://twitter.com/JustAGuyOnline Justin Agai

    Ads plastered all over the Dashboard, paying for an Xbox Live account and Netflix account to finally get this free weekend of accessing Netflix. How thoughtful, Microsoft.

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      LOL you fail to understand that this offer only benefits silver members right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liquidfx-Xboxdude/100003184837175 Liquidfx Xboxdude

    i love my XBL. call me a fanboy. whatever. even with the horrible deals sometimes. it is awesome and cheap in my opinion. Microsoft trumps most companies and that makes me feel secure, even if i am not. piece of mind is priceless. go on and talk about your piece of s 3 but go somewhere else and do it.

  • Sanglant

    “Xbox will unlock the Netflix app, so all LIVE users with a Netflix subscription can watch all weekend long” ummmmmmmmmm, call me confused because last time I checked this is no different than the last year +.

  • ElektroDragon

    I’ve heard a rumor that there’s there’s these two really cool HD consoles where you can watch Netflix without paying extras fees on top of your Netflix subscription! I know, CRAZY, right? I also heard that you can play multiplayer games on these consoles for free, and you’re not spammed with ads. It can’t be true. Everyone knows you have to pay to watch ads, just like cable TV.

  • Boss Saucier

    Netflix is best on Xbox! It is the only platform with voice controls. I love being able to tell it to pause, play, rewind, play next episode or whatever without even lifting a finger. Can Playstation do that? I don’t have to spend any more money than I already pay anyway. Xbox Live gets better every year and the cost has not gone up for me in over nine years with the service.

    • http://twitter.com/GreenMistt Miller

      Not sure if satire, or fanboy.

    • Russell Gorall

      The cost of Gold just went up a couple years ago. Thanks for the reply, Steve Ballmer.

      • Boss Saucier

        The cost did not increase for me. It has always been $60/year here in Canada.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ernest-Hawthorne/100000901490958 Ernest Hawthorne

    You know what they say”Money makes the world go round”

  • http://twitter.com/Nitramuse Nitramuse

    You know.. Gold isn’t all that evil like most of the people say. Sure, in comparison to PSN these days it seems useless to pay.
    However, at the launch of Xbox Live on the original Xbox, everything was new. Nobody complained about paying for Live. Why not? Because there was nothing else out there and the services just worked very well.
    Now, the service still works very well, way better than PSN… because Microsoft can invest more in servers than Sony.

    But people tend to be spoiled because Sony does it better in their eyes. MS invests in servers for a better reliability and Sony not so much, but they give you games, for the same price of gold.

    So! If you don’t want to pay foe online gaming, move over to PS3. Otherwise, stop complaining.

  • http://www.facebook.com/maximo.piva Maximo Piva

    My next year dishwasher will have a netflix app, but i have to pay U$S 40 a year extra to get the same features on my xbox.(Sound like a great business decision :P). Don’t get me wrong, i like xbox live gold, is overpriced against the competition, but playing Call Of Duty alone pay for it. Since everyone is moving to the service model, i’ll throw you a hint. I think lots of people will pay U$S 60 a month for an all you can eat model. Pay U$S 60 a month and play whatever game you want.

    • http://twitter.com/SpudimusPrime89 Andrew Falkenhan

      It’s $60 a year (at the cheapest through MS), which is $5 a month.

      • http://www.facebook.com/maximo.piva Maximo Piva

        Amazon and buy.com are selling for less than $40. So for me is $ 40 :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3VLAZF3FBRGBRYFGYI24S7SGU Joe. S

    lol haha you guys make me laugh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=524633347 Robin Fensom

    Shouldn’t Netflix always be unlocked anyway? Microsoft are the only ones that lock it behind a paywall. Every other device, including those with arguably better Netflix clients, do not do something so silly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

    so… your argument is, Paying for gold membership saves you money… because you can watch these things on netflix and hulu, which is free and better on ps3 to begin with………… Your logic is terrible why not just watch those things on ps3 and not pay for gold then, you would have over $1000 a year that way right? how is their service bare bones when it is pretty much the same thing as XBL?

    I hear the “you only rent game” argument a lot, but it isn’t true, as long as you are a member you have the game, if you stop paying, well ok you cant use the free games, but when you start paying again you can. lets be honest, how many games do you play for more than 1 month? rarely will a game last a month or more anymore, this argument is and always has been terrible the other side with xbox is you pay for nothing while PSN at least you get free games to play and sales worth mentioning. If you were a gamer, you would have PSN+, it gives you a healthy sample of games and every month you get new ones to try, also if you were a gamer you wouldn’t be hating on PS3 simple because it’s from sony and not MS.

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      Let me correct your post for you ok? First off, Hulu Plus and Netflix are not better on PS3… that is subjective. The only advantage the PS3 netflix app has is the fact that it doesn’t have that stupid auto play feature and the annoying preview image.. oh and Native 1080P streaming… I’ll give you that. But Hulu+ is a convuluted mess of menus that remind me of the god awful XMB and all those options Sony puts with their console. It’s almost as If Sony has a bad habit of making things more complicated than they need to be. I’ll attest to the fact that Hulu + is much better on the 360 for it’s interface alone. As far as how these apps perform, the quality is exactly the same on both systems, I know I tested it all out. So no these apps arn’t better on PS3 when on Xbox, My friends can still be in touch with me and send me messages. If I remember correctly the POS PS3 cuts you off from friends when in apps, watching a bluray movie, etc.

      You keep talking about these games as FREE GAMES… THEY ARE NOT FREE GAMES BECAUSE YOU DON’T OWN THEM. YOU RENT THEM, therefore these are not free, you are PAYING FOR THEM anyway you see it.. And a bit too much if you ask me as the selections I’ve seen have been very weak.

      • Alex_Atkin_UK

        Personally with Netflix I have had a lot more problems with streaming struggling to get up from SD quality on Xbox, on PS3 it sometimes has bad days but nowhere near as bad as on Xbox. The picture quality is world apart better on PS3 too, in fact I think even on 720p streams it beats Xbox hands down.

        As for the “free” games on PSN+, I have found it very good value. I have been lucky in that a lot of the games like Red Dead Redemption I never got round to buying as I wasn’t 100% sure I would like it. However Sony have hit a huge problem here, now I am very reluctant to buy games on PS3 in case them become part of PSN+. This is fine for me though, the Xbox has been my main platform for a long time and will remain so on the next console too, purely for how much better the Xbox Live services are.

        I just do not trust Sony to get it right. They had the potential to vastly improve PSN on the PS Vita with it having so much more RAM, but they actually made it worse. Friends list, an app, messages, an app, trophies, an app, and STILL having to install things, sync trophies, its just so clunky compared to Xbox Live. That also implies the PSN limitations are on the server-side so not easily fixed even on a new console, they would have to do a PSN 2.0 which without funds I can’t see them doing.

        This is after all the point of Xbox Live Gold, we pay so Microsoft can invest in the infrastructure, and its really paid off IMO. My only objection is tying all these apps into Gold where they should be free.

        For gaming, Xbox wins hands down for me as it makes both gaming and communicating with my friends so easy and seamless. This will only get better once we have Skype and can voice chat with people on PC too, which if they have any sense will be cross gaming Skype chat, maybe even in-game video chat. For media, PS3 wins purely on Netflix, although both consoles suck for video playback – for that I use my Sony Bluray player although I believe the WD Live is the best media playback device but I cannot rationalise ANOTHER box under the TV.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

    I am pretty sure 10+ people don’t join in on the cheating in those older games it’s a small group of people (maybe about 1000 people) if MS cared don’t you think they would put a few XBL pets in these matchs and just ban all the cheaters within a 1-2 week span? because that is what makes sense.

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      Microsoft does care more more by default… they are also easily more inclined to do something unlike with an otherwise free and inferior service like PSN. Not speaking like they always do something but they are defininitely more inclinded to do something and they have more resouces to get things done. I’m sure a portion of our gold subs goes to upkeep, maintainence and dealing with cheaters.

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      Curtis, you are failing to see my point bro. It’s common sense really, we pay for xbox live, PS3 owners don’t pay for PSN. You are going against logic by thinking a free service is more inclined to handle and ban cheaters than a paid for service? What incentive would sony have to police their servers withouth the needed revenue to do so?
      This is illogical to say the least. I really wish you would see me more as a disgruntled consumer than a brand loyal fanboy.. esecially when I openly admit and am very vocal about the things MS does I don’t like. Just because I diss the PS3 (hell even I know I sound and come off as a fanboy, I’ll admit it lol) doesn’t mean my points arn’t justified.
      You probably don’t know this but every single component in my entertainment system is sony! It’s just that the Playstation brand itself is dead to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Isabell/1036013363 Curtis Isabell

    and those things that show sony will charge members is???? oh your fanboy goggles are a little tight.

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      Denial will get you knowwhere my friend, should I start posting comparison videos on youtube if you don’t beleive the multiplat problem with the ps3 still exists? Just give me the word buddy.

  • LarsFromMars

    There ARE people too stupid to use Google. It’s called Bing.

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      Lmao @ you computer nerds. Google and Bing offer the exact same thing I use both.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brian.edden Brian Edden

    Just bring back the theatre so we can watch with our friends again…

  • Thomas Crane

    Oh wow. That’s amazing. It’s totally unlocked on my phone, iPad, PS3, and Macbook Pro. But hey a whole 3 days!!! What a bargain!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bennie-Hair/705413650 Bennie Hair

    If multiplayer wasn’t behind a pay wall, I’m curious, how many of you would still pay?

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      Pay for what? I don’t understand your question? In the end, PSN is most likely going to charge for access to mp as well.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bennie-Hair/705413650 Bennie Hair

        I highly doubt PSN multiplayer will ever be hidden behind a pay wall. They will continue to give PS+ value and hope people sign up for that but basic multiplayer will not be paid.
        As for my question, maybe read it a little slower. I’m asking if Multiplayer access(you know play online with friends) was free WOULD you continue to pay for Xbox live?

        • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

          I have no idea why you guys highly doubt it.. all the top industry analysists are predicting this. Look at all the revenue they could be getting with a paid subscription, all you have to do is look at xbox live. Sony would be financially stupid if they didn’t, not only that it would more than likely bring on better security, serious improvements to the service and a whole lot more. Am I the only one here that believes that PSN being free actually hurts them as well as the service itself?
          And LOL I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION BUD. What do you mean if MP access (for what? XBL or PSN) was free would I continue to pay for xbox live? Free on what Xbox live? I’m sorry but you arn’t wording your question corrrectly and it makes no sense. Try again and I’ll be happy to anwser you, only this time please be specific.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bennie-Hair/705413650 Bennie Hair

            PSN_IS_GARBAGE posted a comment in Netflix Unlocked this weekend on Xbox · 12 hours agoYou see while I agree with you that hiding netflix and other apps behind the paywall, for myself, I look at it like this. I have been gold for the past 8 years (not once have I ever been silver) I pay for the online MP portion of my games and everything else I got with gold, I look at like a perk and this is why I’m content with gold.

            YOU posted that. It’s not hard to look at a persons history to see what they have said. YOU obviously KNOW what MP is. It is a travesty to lock out Multiplayer to people who have already bought the game.

            Either way you have a choice, it’s yours and I’m not trying to change your mind.

            Live Long Play

  • fantomena

    1) Do you really think Sony gives this option away for free? And, btw, it’s free on Vita. :)
    2) XBL lacks demos too.
    3) That’s dumb and is all about you Internet connection. I download 5 GB in 2 hours on PSN same with XBL.
    4) This I can agree on.
    5) WTH?

    And….Steam beats both XBL og PSN in these things.

  • http://www.facebook.com/macy.slator Macy Slator

    This has got to be the most retarded thing that microsoft does. I’m already paying a subscription for netflix, but still need to get live just to use the netflix app? makes no sense.

  • Boss Saucier

    Wow, somebody who agrees with you, or I should say somebody with whom you agree.

    My opinions are my own and the people who agree with me are in real life, not on the internet.

    • spamme

      I formed my own opinion of the service years ago after paying for over 2 years of XBL Gold. (Last time I paid was in 2008)

      There are plenty of people who have commented on here who agree.

      GameSpot is a fairly high profile gaming site.

      It’s funny that you get so upset because we have different opinions. If you don’t agree, then move along. There’s no need to continuously try to tear me down. You’re not changing my mind and all you are doing is trolling me.

 
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