May 21st 2013 4:11 pm PT

Xbox One and Used Games

We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed today. While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, today we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail.

Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios.

Another piece of clarification around playing games at a friend’s house – should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.

   
   

Update: See this updated post on the issue

Xbox One By Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson

  • killingdan

    If sony dont do this second hand block code would game studios support ps4 less and favour xone?

    • disqus_eUPQtFSCTG

      EA switched just to M$ so they might but at least you will find out who the bad companys are

    • RED360

      Prob part of the back door hand shake when they formed the partnership

      • killingdan

        One thing now a game has to get good reviews before I buy from now on no more day of release.

  • Max Rocktansky

    The sad thing is… no matter how many angry insults are here produced – they will not care. And the second sadest is… I´m pretty sure that more than the half of the angry people here will buy the system anyway. I preordered the 4 today, cause the fun in getting a new Box was destroyed by such ignorance of MS. I said in front: if they do even one of this (forced kinect, always on OR no used games) it´s gone for me. Now we have all three of these.
    For me gaming should still be fun – and this is no fun anymore. They won´t change mind, cause I´m pretty sure they can´t and they simply will not. Not now not at the E3 nor anytime later. They aim for new target groups, new casual – Handy-tablet-users and they want to sell data. Core gamers are a dying breed – as sad as it is. We builded the base of future things to come – with – or without us. And as always in history we will be forgotten soon. MS did already.

    • RED360

      Sorry you let them do that to you

      I for one will not buy one if they don’t change.
      I don’t foresee that happening.

      • Max Rocktansky

        I was day 1 first 10 minutes of the first box and was gold member as long as it exists. I had a lot of fun with it, had lots of good times and hey I will still keep my 360 until they change XBL to force the 360 to do the same as the ONE.

        • Shaniqua1990

          good bye. i will be enjoying my Xbox One Console with 15 exlusives in its first year, 8 new IPs while you cry in your peasant shack about how you can’t steal and pirate from the hard working developers.

        • RED360

          Same here

        • slobodan jukic

          Don’t expect 360 to be around for long as you see Windows 8 sales were worse than Vistas so they anounce terminating support for win xp which holds 47% of os users of any type thinking they’ll force those into buying windows 8 but i know that will not happen win8 is not for multitasking and isn’t productive

    • Sopranosfan

      I’m not buying it if this used game nonsense is implemented. If PS4 doesn’t have it I will buy it and if they do I will buy a WiiU and keep current gen.

  • killingdan

    500gb is not enough yes I can expand but console looks so big I cannot afford the console more storage and a extension to my house to fit all this in. And ment to be the one but have to keep tivo box not sure this xbox was thought out rather have r.o.d. back. Ps I was a xbox fanboy since xbox. U killed that

    • disqus_eUPQtFSCTG

      In the end they will prolly make a 1TB harddrive for more of your money what a shame

      • killingdan

        Not for me this is like when sega went hard to change but they cannot keep forcing stuff we dont want or need im moving to the hard core machine I buy a games console for games tv is fine and looks good but dont replace my tivo thats a tb and always full

        • slobodan jukic

          Don’t worry about 500gb of the hdd as everything is kept on cloud

      • slobodan jukic

        Yeah if you buy another xbox as this 500GB is not user removable

    • Shaniqua1990

      if you can’t afford to have a little extra space to put an external hard drive in your hose get your priorities striaght. instead of wasting times playing video games you should be trying your best to get out of that peasant chathole you live in

      • killingdan

        I have enough money for all that stuff just not gonna waste it on a console that let fans down look at sonys stock price rise that speaks more than anything u can say to me

        • Shaniqua1990

          you just said you lived in peasant house that dosnt even have enough space for an external hard drive LOL

          • killingdan

            Im not gonna start a debate on how much money im on or if my house is bigger than yours its called xbox one. below my tv I want a box not mass storage a tivo box that supersized kinect I love xbox but to me its not for me and after I gave many year and money to them im having my say

          • RED360

            Don’t think Eng. is his first Lang

          • slobodan jukic

            Shaniqua would be Female Monkey Name (African-American)

          • Shaniqua1990

            lol, so you live in a peasant house that cant even fit an external hard drive under the TV

            LOL

        • slobodan jukic

          Hey just look at Windows 8 they force people to use touch interface with their mouse. Win 8 is only good for ppl checking email and going to fb and skype. The true multitasking having multiple windows open with traybar for info gone. Thats why win 8 is worse than Vista. So they shut support for Win xp as it holds 47% of all os users (apple, linux, win etc.) So it was expected that they’ll follow in same footsteps with XBOX ONE

          Look at their stock it started climbing and on 21st of may it was high then keeps going down ever since then so even their share holders are not pleased as they see the consumers are not pleased

  • Dylan

    Developers are speaking out against XBone over twitter.

    See the Destructoid article.
    Tim Schafer and Phil Fish and many others are expressing their displeasure over Microsoft’s money grubbing anti-independent policies.

    • killingdan

      Thankyou top answer

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      Link please?

      • Dylan

        Discus will not allow it. Sorry.
        Search destructoid on google plus this title

        “Devs express disappointment with Xbox One over Twitter”

        • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

          I found it, thanks man!

    • Shaniqua1990

      LOL, no name “devs” who work primarily on the PC, aka no used games, always online steam.

      • Dylan

        Did you just say Tim Schafer the maker of

        Secret of Monkey Island
        Full Throttle
        GRIM FANDANGO
        Psychonauts
        Brutal Legend

        AND The double Fine Kickstarter that made over 2 million in crowdfunding in a month, IS A NO NAME!?

        Are you 5 years old?

        • Shaniqua1990

          yeah, that’s a pretty bad resume.

          lol 2 million budget game, is it going to be a browser game like farmville?

          lmao

  • Jamie Putnam

    Found this in an article. It gives me hope.

    The pre-owned games issue and funds lost to second hand sales has always been a concern for developers, but players themselves have been highly vocal in their opposition to any sort of prevention. Can you explain exactly how pre-owned games work on Xbox One? Is it difficult to balance the desires of both publishers and consumers on this issue?

    I think we will always take a customer or player centric view with this and our plans are very consistent with the way the world works today, which is if I buy a disc I can install it on my machine. I can play it and anyone associated with my machine can play it as well. I can give that disc to somebody else – maybe my son who has his own Xbox One somewhere else in the house – and he can install and play it on his machine.

    • Tyler

      Yeah, I read some Q&A with Phil Harrison on the Wierd website. The the things are still very shady…

      • Jamie Putnam

        He didn’t confirm or deny a fee being needed, but I’m hoping for the best. I’m grabbing at straws here. I don’t want to leave Xbox, but I will easily walk out the door if final answer isn’t the right one.

  • John Albert

    Oh well, You lost me, and I had that shiny 10 year avatard helmet too. At least PS+ offers something beyond “play online” and other services everyone else offers free for their $50 a year.

    • http://playstationlifestyle.net/ Paulmichael Contreras

      “avatard” haha!

  • Josh Harlan

    Just read an article in which Ryan Sharpe from Get-Well Gamers Foundation, a charity that delivers games and game systems to over 180 children hospitals, stated they will not will not include Xbox One in their inventories.

    The following is his statement:

    “Normally I don’t pay much attention to announcements like this XBox thing, but the ‘Pre-owned fee’ has me livid. In a stroke, Microsoft has removed themselves from the Foundation’s inventory for as long as this policy is in place. In our annual survey, the Foundation’s network hospitals have on average less than one dollar per patient per year budgeted for any form of non-medical therapy and treatment. So now, if I send a hospital an XBox One with twenty games, it’s going to cost them (at, charitably, .99 each) 19.80 just to play the games I’ve sent them for free?

    And that’s just for *one* system! Some of our member hospitals have dozens of systems spread around multiple wards! I can hear it now: “Sorry Jimmy, you can’t play this game. Only the Oncology ward has it unlocked. Ridiculous. What a load of tripe. So yeah, no XBox One support from the Get-Well Gamers Foundation, it seems. Anyone who donates them to us, they’ll have to be sold so we can buy games that can be played on more than one system. Good grief.”

    • Dylan

      Disgusting.
      Microsoft is betraying our Military as well with their corporate greed.

    • BetrayedByM$

      that is so sad. M$ taking away from sick kids :(

    • killingdan

      I heard armed force’s wont either as the online connection

    • BetrayedByM$

      maybe you can partner now with Ps4 ? don’t know much about Playstation but if M$ is cutting out the kids and the Military, i think Sony might just win this next gen :(

    • BetrayedByM$

      Plus with Xbox One , they would have to have the Kinect hooked up an it would have to be checking in with x1 every 24 hours, an if the hospitals dont have (like he said) the Internet for that, then really x1 games that are donated are useless to the sick children :( .

    • Jamie Putnam

      Well that sucks. Didn’t think about that. More kudos for Xbox One.

    • Shaniqua1990

      Microsoft dosnt even profit from used games, so it won’t affect them. Good bye.

      • slobodan jukic

        Really they don’t? So if you were forced to pay 20$ for something and then you have option to spend 15$,10$ etc on DLC that you could recommend to friends as when you’re in party to have them play those maps too… are you likelly to do so? Nope

      • Jamie Putnam

        That’s low, even for you.

        • BetrayedByM$

          pretty sure shaniqua has no soul. she hates kids as much as she loves trolling us here, lol

          • Jamie Putnam

            It’s getting personal for me with subject. My niece benefitted from this program.

  • killingdan

    Game rentals will there be special disc or has that market gone?

  • Dan Page

    I was looking forward to next gen, maybe it’s a bad idea :/

  • JCK

    You should have put less money into trying to force Kinect upon everyone and used it to make the specs of the console better.

    I am not paying for something that i don’t want. We should at least have the option of buying the console without the Orwellian device included.

    • BetrayedByM$

      agree with you JCK!

    • BetrayedByM$

      I’ve tweeted this page to several gaming sites as well as gaming journalists and even to the bosses of M$ themselves, lol an you know, maybe it’s cause im the only one doing it, but none of them have said anything. so really it true that, if you dont like the way X1 is..DONT BUY IT please. stick with 360 as long as you can, an hold out. maybe because after launch an they realize how LOW sales are, they will take out the KINECT and they will fix this huge mess with used games.

      and maybe even apologize for treating gamers like Sh*t
      all though i doubt that but, lol it would be nice

      • Charles W.

        Sounds like this console generation is being handed to Sony. I was happy to jump from Sony to Microsoft, I’ll have no misgivings about going back.

    • Shaniqua1990

      still here? I thought u were going to spend all ur money on the pee on us four now

      • JCK

        Ahhh Shaniqua old friend how i missed your inane, child like babbling.

  • Dan Page

    I’d also say always online is a bad idea even if it only has to be on for updates. Yes, I have xbox live BUT my wifi signal isn’t all that great, I haven’t been able to login in for the last half hour. Imagine if the phoneline companys connection breaks and 1000s of people lose access to their wifi, bye bye gaming, what a waste of a potential £400, ideally…

    • slobodan jukic

      Another thing I just thought of is if your console gets banned from xbox live they can’t prevent you from playing games offline which would mean that they destroyed your property

      • Dan Page

        As many people have said, it’d become a useless brick. I like to have my achievements date stamped so that when I redeem my GT the score stays high and that my achievements remain legit too. I’m still having trouble connecting to live now

        • slobodan jukic

          I mean when I play I’m on xbl always even now I’m at work and my console is connected to xbl at home. But sometimes we go few days to my moms and she only has 56k and goes to bed at 8-9 so I’m left bored so I bring my xbox and play offline

          • Dan Page

            That is a fair statement. Hopefully we’ll hear something back, maybe at E3 but I doubt that, they’ll probably run over the specs and the whole TV gimmick again

          • slobodan jukic

            I hope so but what I fear even more is the fact that people were saying Durango doesn’t seem to support cloud as much as PS4 is which makes me think they are doing exactly same thing (this was said b4 xbox one reveal)

          • Dan Page

            Yeah but think about it, if us consumers are harassing about info as we are, they’ll have to announce something, E3 will be the best chance as that’s the most likely chance that gamers and the press will be tuning in, then hopefully we can all shut up and make a decision about which console we go for, if any atall

          • slobodan jukic

            Only reason I really liked any xbox was Achievements and great Friends list (xbl stuff) So with being able to get ach on pc also its good alternative for me :-) plus I have amd phenom ii x6 1090t black overclocked at 4ghz with 12gb ddr3 and ocz vector ssd with radeon hd 7950 :-)

          • slobodan jukic

            But for E3 Major Nelson said in FAQ it’ll be about GAMES GAMES GAMES

  • slobodan jukic

    So hang on if you have to connect to xbox live 1x in 24hrs what happens if for some reason the console gets banned? Wouldn’t be illegal to completely disable my electronic of doing everything else besides online play?

    • Shaniqua1990

      what if you get banned from blizzard?

      what if you get banned from steam?

      there’s your answer.

      • slobodan jukic

        If you get banned from steam you can still use your single player game on pc and thats hardly a comparison. Xbox is a console sole purpose of playing games and some other secondary entertainmet blocking games on it renders electronnic device useless meaning your property was destroyed

        • Shaniqua1990

          no you can’t.

          oh wait, you pirate your games anyways that’s why you can.

          • slobodan jukic

            Hmm every pc game I ever bought (only strategy games AOE etc.) Connected to steam only if I wanted to do multiplayer games but single player was fine but then again last one was a year ago. There is no need for pirating I’m Quality Engeneer. But I will not hand my money out for unjust charges. No other company gets paid if original purchaser deceided to sell their copy of product so neither will the game publishers. Afterall it would be going against First Sale Doctrine as you probably read my posts on me schooling you about it ;-)

          • Shaniqua1990

            cd key, do you even know what first sale doctrine is? lol, you clearly don’t. Try google, you didn’t even know what first sale doctrine was until I brought it up, you were trying to give peasant logic analogies which were way off.

            rofl. poor peasant.

          • slobodan jukic

            Sure why don’t you do a google search maybe look at wikipedia and learn what I told you as I directly copied it for your dumb a** to teach you and show you proof

          • slobodan jukic

            Monkey go search it urself i posted you exact quotes from it

  • Charles W.

    “Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios.”

    Frees up an angry bunch of folks on the internet to jump to conclusions…

    Until Microsoft stands up to defend it’s loyal customers I’ll support and help to spread every heinous rumor I hear. Don’t come at us with non-denial denials. Come at us with specifics or don’t bring it up.

  • Dan Page

    Another thing with this “fee” for playig games on one than more console: I love collector’s edition, I have collector’s editin of AC1-3. AC 3 freedom edition cost me £80, I’ll use this as an example. A firend of mine has borrowed Creed 3, not say he had to pay to play it, ok, fair enough but I shouldn’t have to pay to reclaim it as it’s my game, that like spending £80 for the edition of them game then exta £’s just so I can replay my game… I hope this isn’t the future of gaming, if it is, you have no hope with the “console wars” and everyone will flutter off to Sony and your stocks will continue to drop.

  • BetrayedByM$

    Did you guys see this from Gamespot?
    now see, THIS IS WHAT I MEAN, if they get into xbox live then they can hack that damn KINECT as well! just wait, it will happen, an watch the lawsuits roll in….

    Hacker claims to have cracked Microsoft’s online network, exposing confidential information for 47 million users.

    A hacker going by the name Reckz0r today claimed to have cracked Xbox Live, exposing confidential information for around 47 million users.

    In a note posted on Pastebin, the hacker claimed to have “brutally owned” Xbox Live a few days ago, but decided to publish the data today.

    Writing on Twitter, Reckz0r said Microsoft stores its passwords in a plaintext format. This person described the disbanded hacking group Lulzsec as “friends.”

    A Microsoft representative has told GameSpot to expect comment from the company shortly.

    The hacking claims come just two days after Microsoft announced its next-generation platform, the Xbox One.

    • Dan Page

      Hm, I’ve thought about this too, just like PSN got hacked. What if KINECT DOES get hacked, criminals could very well find out our info (from our subscriptions) and then usiing kinect found out the layout of our houses. Also, my xbox 360 is in my room, so IF I get XBO, that’ll be in my room too, so if anyone hacks kinect, they could very well watch me sleep, yeah, no thanks on that! So MS, allows us to unplug kinect!

      • BetrayedByM$

        why i’m so damn passionate about this is because i have two kids who have the xbox in their rooms. they dont have kinect now, i wont allow it, dont trust it, but with xbox one, you dont get that choice, you HAVE to have it or the box will not run.

        an with hackers now a days? you can not tell me they wont figure how to get in to that camera i dont care how safe m$ says it is or that you can turn it off…i do no trust them.

        an if i CAN turn it off, why should it then be mandatory to have it plugged in all the time?

        it really should not be such a big deal just to offer xbox one with kinect and without.

        • Shaniqua1990

          do you keep ur kids in a box? think baout all the phones with cameras!

          • BetrayedByM$

            amazing how truly stupid you are

        • Shaniqua1990

          what happens when cell phone companies get hacked? theyu can turn on the camera in your phone and listen to you!

          do you keep your kids away from the big bad telephones everyone has on the streets? you keep them in your basement?

          • BetrayedByM$

            wow you really are brainless, aren’t you? i feel sad for you. your what’s wrong with this world now a days

          • DarkNightRJ

            You’re*

        • Dan Page

          You have a very good point plus kinect will add to the price of the console/system too. It’s not just hacking either though, not everyone has the storage space or “playing” space that it requires. It SHOULD be a choice at least, I’m 100% with you on that

          • BetrayedByM$

            I agree Dan :)

      • Shaniqua1990

        what happens if cell phone carriers get hacked? then they can activate the mic and cameraon ur phone and listen to ur ugly face

        • BetrayedByM$

          yeah they can dumba** , it’s all ready been on the news about hackers getting into cell phones and turning the mic an camera’s on. how stupid are you?

          • Shaniqua1990

            did you throw away your phone and refuse to buy it?

          • Dan Page

            Coming out of my stupid face? Sorry but I’m pretty sure you mean mouth, right? I’m guessing you’re in the states as you called it a cell phone. IF you were actually born in 1990, you’re pretty mature for a 22/23 (depending on birth month) -_- get with the program, these things can and WILL happen. MS just need to see that as a high possibility chance

          • Shaniqua1990

            ruh oh, did you refuse to buy a phone that dosn’t have a mic or camera?

          • BetrayedByM$

            you can go on an on all you like, fact is your only on here , being rude to everyone, because you have no self worth. the statements coming out of your mouth proves your age and how truly sad of a human being you are.

      • BetrayedByM$

        Dan, did you start the petition yet? let me know, i’ll blast that thing out (hopeful all of us will) to all gaming sites an xbox bosses and who ever else will sign it.

  • Sopranosfan

    I own 92 current gen 360 and PS3 games and Over 80 were purchased new. My gamer score is 42k and I refuse to support this anti consumer practice.

    • Shaniqua1990

      oh so you’re one of those dirty pirates

      • slobodan jukic

        We all know you monkeys do that as you have no money and live off of the government peasant turned pirate lol go pick cotton and make some money and buy games then we won’t have issues like these

    • Shaniqua1990

      hi mr pirate

  • BetrayedByM$

    to bad there’s no IGNORE button on here, lol that would come in handy for that Shaniqua1990 he/she/it/thing that thinks everyone cares about anything he/she has to say

    • RED360

      Apparently she has had a bad run in with some pirates

      • BetrayedByM$

        lol red :)

  • http://twitter.com/NAVARiN Bennijin

    So apparently the details are “not final”.

    The only acceptable outcome is complete and utter abandonment of any plan to withold access.

  • Charles Fasano

    Unless the Xbox ONE will be made NOT TO REQUIRE internet, I won’t be buying. I refuse to buy something that I won’t be able to play in a few years when it won’t be able to sign in and render all games for it useless and worthless. I won’t buy also because I refuse to have a mandatory camera and mic that I can’t turn off while playing games. Unless Kinect is optional, you won’t have me as a buyer.

  • Jeremy Crenshaw

    Because of the immense backlash of the 100,000′s of displeased consumers, hopefully Microsoft will make adjustments to the console’s planned service agreements. A majority of these critical errors ‘can’ be corrected by Microsoft, and since some execs of the corporation took the personal risk to get the word out on just how bad their current plan is (whether shareholders demand their termination or not), maybe they will.

    Doesn’t exactly change the fact that the company intended to do exactly what so many people got irate about, they just got caught; but better than nothing.

    • Dan Page

      Hm, is it worth considering a pertition on what gamers what from their console, I mean on here and various other sites we have people saying what should and shouldn’t be included, maybe a pertition will be an added back bone, so to speak…

      • slobodan jukic

        How do we start one?

        • Dan Page

          go to www(dot)change(dot)org and follow it from there

          • slobodan jukic

            Can you start it and send us the part of url after change dot org?

          • Dan Page

            www(dot) change(dot)org /en-GB/ petitions/microsoft-to-listen-and-to-take-notice-of-what-their-consumers-want-from-them#share change what you need to

          • BetrayedByM$

            yea Dan i can’t find it. is there a way to maybe tweet it out? can u give us your twitter an then we can get it from there?

      • BetrayedByM$

        that’s an amazing idea ! you start one Dan an we’ll all come along!
        lol …i never started one before ;)

        just make sure miss 1990 keeps her nose out of it

        • Dan Page

          no idea if this will work as I could only add so many characters :/
          www(dot) change(dot)org /en-GB/ petitions/microsoft-to-listen-and-to-take-notice-of-what-their-consumers-want-from-them#share

          • slobodan jukic

            Signed :-)

          • BetrayedByM$

            oh u found it? hmmm, i cannot find it

          • Dan Page

            Nice one. Spread the word through facebook or twitter, both if you can :)

  • JCK

    Mandatory Orwellian device = no sale.

    I’m waving my arms at you now MS, can you guess what I’m saying?

    • JCK

      I’d just like to say before someone points it out to me, yes i am a pirate.

      • BetrayedByM$

        LOL i knew it :)

  • Luih

    please microsoft read this: “how to make succeed in this generation”

    It´s really really easy:

    - Make Two packs: One with kinnect, other without it. In other words, kinect can´t be something mandatory

    - Don´t focus on TV: because A LOT of people doesn´t wast money in a xbox for wath TV in their TV. Because they can watch TV without an Xbox, and this is a really special point outside the EEUU, where things like Netflix doesn´t exist.

    - Focus on Traditional player: People wants a console for play games. I don´t know your survey results, but I can´t find any people who wants a console for listen music, watch (expensive) films (that even worst: you can only see on a xbox system or windows), or (sounds like a joke) watch TV. Maybe in EEUU this is right, but you can be sure that here in Europe NO. Because there are something extremely better than xbox for multimedia purposes: Pc. And a Pc can be connected perfectly on a hdmi TV as same xbox.

    - Forget those abusive politics with second hand games etc. This is something that even your super fans (the few you have left now) are asking you.

    Please reconsiders it.

    and sorry for grammatical mistakes… google traductor isn´t perfect yec =P

    • BetrayedByM$

      it’s ok, we got it ;)

    • http://www.facebook.com/adamdjt Adam Daniel John Thompson

      Also rumours that Kinect will count the amount of people watching a movie and charge accordingly.

      • Shaniqua1990

        yeah, because MSFT will create a new standard that no movie studio or MPAA has even considered for no reason

      • Daithlee

        HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Dan Page

    Guys and girls, I have NO idea if this’ll work, I could only add so many characters untill a limit, change what you need to: www(dot) change(dot)org /en-GB/ petitions/microsoft-to-listen-and-to-take-notice-of-what-their-consumers-want-from-them#share

    • RED360

      Edit and remove spaces.

      • Dan Page

        I’ve tried that but it won’t post the link if I add it correctly :/

        • RED360

          Ya just so others would notice them

          • BetrayedByM$

            found it dan, you the man ;)

          • Dan Page

            Cheers, BBm, spread the word through facebook/twitter :D

          • RED360

            vote it up

          • BetrayedByM$

            I’m on it now ;)

          • Dan Page

            Ah right, ok :)

        • BetrayedByM$

          i’m on it buddy. i saw someone even posted it on xbox achievement site ! nice one guys ;)

          • Dan Page

            If it was Page1992, that’s my GT :P

    • safdf

      Petitions are useless, this forum has been proved to be useless too. Stop wasting your time, gamers go to Nintendo and Sony, AMERICAN music and TV subscribers, come to XBOX ONE.

  • http://www.benway.net JasonB

    If I can’t rent games, I won’t by the xbox one.

    • Shaniqua1990

      does the B stand for brat or bish?

  • BetrayedByM$

    Guys don’t forget to go sign the petition, every name helps

  • Dan Page

    Hey guys, go here, geat our voices heard: Don’t forget to sign and get out voices heard! Spread the petition to twitter and facebook, get our voices heard! www(dot) change(dot) or /en-GB/petitions/microsoft-to-listen-and-to-take-notice-of-what-their-consumers-want-from-them

  • BetrayedByM$

    also, post the link for the petition on the gaming sites them selves , in the forums, like IGN and Game Informer an GameSpot and all of them so it catches on ;)

  • RED360

    Go read mine

    • BetrayedByM$

      read it ;) it was great , guys dont forget to go sign it ;) and put it on twitter and facebook and the gaming sites. tweet it to the gaming sites to ;)

  • Joshua Earl

    This might be the end of gaming for me.

    • Shaniqua1990

      good, you can do productive things instead of wasting ur time now

      thank microsoft and swear ur life to it

  • slobodan jukic

    just confirmed bu Aron Greenberg broadband internet is a requirement

    “If you’re type of a gamer that wants to take the console to the middle of the ocean where there’s no internet XBOX ONE WILL NOT WORK FOR YOU” His exact words.

    • BetrayedByM$

      lol wow….what an a**. he seems like another Adam deal with it , kind of guy

      • slobodan jukic

        This is such bs. I buy a game and can’t play single player offline. God da*n DRM

        • RED360

          F** the navy

        • Shaniqua1990

          ur a dirty eastern euro pirate

          dont act like u buy games cause we all know ur peasant never did

          • slobodan jukic

            European same where all Human Americans came from and then we brought Monkey slaves from Africa lol

    • http://www.facebook.com/adamdjt Adam Daniel John Thompson

      ‘If you want to live in the country AND have an Xbox One, then you shouldn’t be a stupid country bumpkin’ – Microsoft.

      no wonder why Sony’s share price doubled.

    • Tyler

      Where did you read that? Thanks

      • Dylan

        +1 I’d like to see a link as well

        • Shaniqua1990

          he made it up cause hes a dirty eastern euro

          • slobodan jukic

            Yeah i’m Croatian and American and dirty european? Lol why do you think White House is made from White stone? Because Croatia made it possible ;-) google it and I did give you the link

        • slobodan jukic

          Link right above your post

      • slobodan jukic

        www (dot) gamertagradio (dot) com/new/2013/05/episode-385-podcast-exclusive-aaron-greenberg-on-xbox-one/

        Scroll to 31:20 its where that question begins

    • Kuja01

      So, you’re planning to play games online with a 56k modem connection? Or a non-broadband connection?

      Good luck. Despite that quote being made up, your quote doesn’t require an always on feature. It simply says you’d need broadband to play online, which the current generation already demands.

      Cheers.

      • slobodan jukic

        Really then listen to the link i just provided you. And if you read what i said you wouldn’t of made that dumb comment. My own internet is 50Mbit thats what I play online with when I go to my moms I play some games offline duhhhhh. And that quote if you listen in the podcast will tell you that you will not be able to play single player and use game without having internet at all. They keep saying “if you get disconnected or have outage ur ok” in other words you will have to connect

      • John Albert

        What about people in the military? Prick.

        That’s who’s getting screwed.

  • Shaniqua1990

    scram u poor peasant

  • RED360

    Every time a new console is announced, it summons a peculiar blend of anxiety and simmering rage from the gaming public. A recent poll by Voucher Codes Pro asked UK gamers what they thought of Microsoft’s big reveal of the Xbox One, so we can precisely quantify that cocktail of emotions. The results are mixed, with a distinct undertone of disappointment from the responses.

    According to the UK, the full living room experience isn’t what customers are looking for – they just want to play games.

    Of those who responded negatively, the common thread seemed to be a dislike for the multimedia approach. 47% stated that a “game console should stick to gaming,” reinforced by 39% who said they “didn’t care about its television capabilities.” The press conference that revealed the Xbox One received some direct criticism, with 42% of participants wishing that they knew more about the console’s line-up of launch titles. Other complaints ranged from disinterest in Skype to the somewhat petty argument that the console’s aesthetics weren’t “exciting” enough.

    Read more at.escapistmagazine com

    • Kuja01

      My radio has close to a hundred different stations to listen to. However, I only listen to 6 stations on any regular basis. By this “poll”, I should probably get rid of my radio because it involves things that I don’t like.

      Ridiculous.

    • Dylan

      I think a good measuring stick is that Sony’s stock went up 8% right when the Xbox conference started talking about TV. And kept going up.

      And Microsoft’s went down and down during their own conference

      • Shaniqua1990

        Sony has been going up for the past year. They went up 8% because a hedge fund which owned a significant portion of sony shares was pressuring them to spin off their entertainment division, and the board just had a meeting. Not that I’d expect a 12 year old girl to have any knowledge of how financial markets work. Hint: They don’t revolve around trivial video gaming news.

        MSFT went down 0.66% after posting the highest share prices in 5 years. But of course in your mind everything revolves around video games.
        sad peasant.

        • RED360

          Sony was down the day before.

          • Shaniqua1990

            So? Hedge Fund, Significant Portion of SNE, Spin off Entertainment Division, Board Meeting.

          • BetrayedByM$

            you so work for M$…how you shut the f*** up now and leave everyone alone. there’s no need to a bully , grow up

        • Dylan

          It spiked at EXACLY 1pm. Right when the conference started. What do your eyes tell you?
          http s:/ /fbcdn-sphotos-d-a .akamaihd. net/hp hotos-ak-prn1/94 5550_10152877031925492_2029204006 _n .jpg

          • Shaniqua1990

            oh, only the fact that every financial news agency, like bloomberg, reporting the hedge fund and sony board meeting. right after the board meeting concluded and a press release inssued. hmm, xbox one reveal or a spin off of one of their most profitable divisions urged by a hedge fund manager whose fund, third point owns significant shares in the company…

            peasant life revolves around video games cant grasp financial industries… lol sad

          • Dylan

            Then explain why Microsoft’s stock went down.

          • Shaniqua1990

            it was -0.66%, that’s negligible change in stock prices, especially a blue chip slow mover like MSFT.

            MSFT shares were at a 5 year high anyways. You act like the Xbox division which has bled MSFT money for over a decade makes up a significant portion of their business. MSFT has more cash than the xbox division makes in revenue.

          • Dylan

            It is a big deal, they just had a huge announcement that will change the future of the company, and it didn’t go up.
            And I said no such thing about bleeding money.
            Sony has been bleeding money for the PS3. I’m sure the 360 was quite profitable even with the RROD

          • John Albert

            Dylan, I’m my hardest not to call your obsessive hanging on to a 39 cent drop the signs of a metal defective, but I’ve owned MS stock for the last 5 years now. The price is higher by about $10 from when I started buying, this is despite the win8 hatred, the Office subscription debacle, and the Windows Phone failures.

            Your analysis of the stock dropping is pointless, MS and Sony are more than their entertainment divisions, the correction means nothing. Only panties in a wad fanboys are getting all angry about this console, I don’t like the implications either, but at the end of the day, we’re all going to buy one. We’ll probably buy a PS4 too. You aren’t going to get a call from morgan stanley any time soon begging you to come work for them because of your spot on analysis about the negligible drop. Now had it dropped $5-10, that might be something, but it dropped more when Steve Jobs died, what’s your opinion of that?

          • Dylan

            You’re mistaken if you think lots of people are going to be buying the console.

            Every online poll on the internet is against everything the Xbox is doing. It will sell, but it won’t be anywhere near their original projections. (if they do the proposed policies)

            The criticism has gone viral, twitter is ablaze, and social media has spread.
            I have had an Xbox since the original.
            I will not get one if there’s required online (which there is), blocked used games, forced kinect, etc

            And the WII U sales jumped 875% in Britain after the Xbox conference!

          • John Albert

            And you’re mistaken about everything you say. The number of people who read and post on blogs is insignificant compared to the number of people buying the system. You obviously don’t understand how percentages work. The WiiU jumped 125% in early april just due to an unofficial price drop and a few games being released.

            Grow up and learn how the world works before posting such crazy raving claims.

          • RED360

            Wow you actual can say more then two words.

          • BetrayedByM$

            no she said peasant ;)

          • RED360

            ya think it was an edit

          • BetrayedByM$

            lmao an yet your on a gaming forum, calling people peasant (word of the day apparently), oh the irony

          • JCK

            Ahhhh so you’re one of those dirty pirates.

  • Dan Page

    Keep up the petition guys, we have 20/100

    • Bert

      Link?

      • RED360

        read below
        Dan Page post

      • Dan Page

        Add dotsbandbremove spaces where needed www(dot) change(dot) or /en-GB/petitions/microsoft-to-listen-and-to-take-notice-of-what-their-consumers-want-from-them

    • slobodan jukic

      Hey listen to the podcast i posted Aron Greenber answering q’s and answers xbl connection at 31:20

    • safdf

      Those never work, not even the real life version of them, stop all this nonsense, let’s wait and see what happens at the day of launch. They don’t see petitions nor forum thread, not even “live” chats, all they see is their numbers, let’s make them see them red.

  • rosbel rodriguez

    yes we have to support Dan Page petition and like that with all this things microsoft will have all our thinks and share it to all who be worried about this

  • Steve

    My issue is with the extra fee to play on a separate console. I own 3 xboxes but usually only buy one game which I share with my kids who each have there own console. I’m not going to buy 3 copies of each game. Or I’m not going to sign my profile in every time they want to play. So that means I can’t play when they do.
    Microsoft needs to think this through a little more. Considering there policy would limit me to only buying one console, not three.
    If Xbox does this and PS4 doesn’t, it will be a no brainer for me. Even though I have never really like Playstation…. I’ve had an xbox since day 1…

    • Adam

      That’s a little flawed, you shouldn’t be able to play with anyone on 2 different consoles without owning 2 discs, even with the xbox 360. Sure, you can share said Xbox360 game among the consoles but either way you can’t play on 2 with 1 disc. I get your reasoning but that example is kind of folding in on itself.

      • watkins

        How is that logic flawed? He didn’t say play on 2 different consoles at the same time. He bought the game and it should just work wherever he takes it.

  • Adam

    For everyone signing the petition, I don’t think you should be focusing on the things such as Kinect – this is hardly a big issue – the issues we should be focused on are the ones that we all know we don’t want: Online requirement and the Use games fee policy. I think that if we get these removed successfully and nothing else, the Xbox One will be 1000% better and more enjoyable.

    • Assassin

      Kinect IS a big issue to a lot of us

      • BetrayedByM$

        i agree, Kinect needs to NOT be mandatory. read the comments, if it breaks, your system is useless till you buy another one, who knows how much they will go for, or you send it to be fixed. Plus it being on 24/7 is NOT ok

        • Adam

          My point is, everybody, that would you rather have the used-games fee dropped and the always online/24 hour thing removed, but still have to have the kinect? Or remove the kinect and have those other ridiculous policies and features. I’ve got my priorities and they’re focusing on removing the 2 things I mentioned, the Kinect issue is secondary is light of the other issues.

          • safdf

            No it won’t be dropped, those of us who think like this are considered to be peasants and therefore are not welcome in the XBOX ONE world, so says Shaniqua1990, the real voice of MS.

          • watkins

            Agree with you 100%. We all have our kinects hooked up all the time anyway, does anybody actually disconnect it?
            Used games on the other hand… That’s huge. My games better work exactly the same that they do now or I’m out.

          • ReadTheArticlePlz

            I do, it is only connected when I am playing a Kinect game. however back to Adam’s point…yes, I would accept the kinect always on if they got rid of the forced installs, used fees, daily check ins to the internet, and the need to be online to install a game. They are a more serious issue to me.

        • TheRickshaw

          And if your system breaks, your system is useless, so why worry specifically about the kinect?
          I suppose you blow out (or would blow out) the pilot light on your furnace and disconnect power (or remove the batteries) from your thermostat several times a day to save energy.

      • slobodan jukic

        Why is kinect an issue? Put tape over it and there you go. As for use of it being up to game devs whats new there or diff than in x360? Game cds clearly say For Kinect and if you don’t want to use it don’t

        • Assassin

          you can’t just put tape on it an if it’s that damn easy to just cover it, then why the hell do i have to have it at all? when I DONT EVEN WANT IT. you don’t have to use Kinect with 360. So why is it being pushed so hard to be used for Xbox One?

          all we’re is saying is, don’t FORCE it on us. Let us choose if we want it or not. Just because MS wants it and wants to sell that as it’s ‘thing’ does not mean everyone want’s it, and i bet you if you did a poll, more people would not want Kinect than actually want it.

          • slobodan jukic

            Well just like you get headset or as batteries for controller doesn’t mean that you have to use it. Why are you so affraid of something new and if it works great and easier to navigate you’ll probably use it for certain things too. For instance one thing stuck in my head the ability to say the name of the channel instead of searching for one. I mean I’d be pissed off too if they said you cant use controller you have to use kinect. Its not draining any extra power from xbox as it has its own processing unit. You should really listen to the podcast i posted

          • Dylan

            It doesn’t really matter.
            Since it forces you to be online to play XBone, I won’t get one.

          • slobodan jukic

            I agree with that, that’s the issue for mee and not being able to trade games freely

          • Assassin

            that is not the point. if you want it, buy it, i should not have to use it. they let choose if you wanted it on 360, what’s the big deal with choosing to get it or not with X1?

            the point is they are forcing it and if it breaks , and you can’t afford a new one for a while, then your system is useless

          • Dylan

            I don’t even mind that it comes with it, but the fact that the Xbone needs it plugged in to even function is just…weird, annoying, and restricting.

          • Assassin

            yea Dylan, that’s my thing too. it should not have to be plugged in all the time just so the stupid xbox will run.

          • Shaniqua1990

            OMFG DON’T FORCE THE CONSOLE CASE ON ME, JUST GIVE ME THE PARTS AND I’LL ASSEMBLE IT UR PUSHING UP THE COST MSFT

        • JCK

          You shouldn’t have to cover your new electronics device in tape or items of laundry just to get it to function like you want it to.

          Why should i pay for something that is artificially pushing up the price of the console?

          It is an issue of privacy and i certainly don’t trust them when they say you can put it in some sort of privacy mode. If that mode exists then don’t even force me to buy it in the first place!

  • slobodan jukic

    For anyone debating or wondering about having to connect to xbox live in order to play single player which is true go here and listen to the podcast for direct answer scroll to 31:20 and for the answer we’ve been getting (if you get disconnected you’ll continue playing) about a min b4 that

    www (dot) gamertagradio (dot) com/new/2013/05/episode-385-podcast-exclusive-aaron-greenberg-on-xbox-one/

    • RED360

      Well i have to say we will see at E3.

  • rosbel rodriguez

    wow I’m a fortune-teller jajajaja because I think was wednesday or maybe yesterday when I wrote(but only like a joke) that if microsoft don’t be clear or confirm all this think sooner maybe other console can rise and few minutes ago I read that wiiu increase their sales in amazon UK a 875 percent after xbox reveal and I think all of this is about connected all the time with kinect, at least connect to internet each 24 hrs, pay a fee for used games and maybe will increase the price of xbox live gold.

    wow like I said before it was only a joke and now see microsoft it’s not a joke when a gamer don’t like a thing in any console they won’t buy it and they will buy other, so think very carefully.

    PS: I told you MS

    and only tell you this because we like xbox and we don’t want that xbox disappear

    • Dylan

      Hey do you have a link for the surge in Wii U sales? I’d really like to see that.

      • rosbel rodriguez

        only put in google search wii u increase sales amazon uk and you will see a lot of pages. I don’t put you the link because I can’t and always I put a comment I don’t know why disappears

        • Dylan

          Cause its a link, discus is fussy about it.
          Here it is if anyone else wanted it

          http:/ / mynintendonews. com/201 3/05/24/ wii-u-sales-rank-on-amazon-uk-ju mps-875 -percent -after-xbox-one-reveal/

          • rosbel rodriguez

            yes that is oneof many pages and what do you think about this new?

          • Dylan

            People were waiting to see what the new Xbox was about I think. Very interesting to say the least.
            The UK is obviously not interested in the TV Xbox has to offer. Don’t blame them.

          • skunkslayer

            404′d

          • Dylan

            http:// mynintendonews. com/2013/05/24/wii-u-sales-rank-on-amazon-uk-ju mps-875-percent-after-xbox-one-reveal/

            remove the spaces

      • rosbel rodriguez

        here is one page: playeressence (dot) com/amazon-uk-wii-u-sales-rank-jumps-by-875-following-microsofts-xbox-one-reveal/#idc-container

  • TheOne

    If all this is true, Microsoft is about to learn a lesson in humility…owning xbox since day one, and for the first time ever, am undecided about my next gen system. If ps4 goes on a different direction, the. This will be a no contest

  • TheOne

    Those of us, old enough to remember the days when the snes was king, and Sony came around, gamers voted with their wallets and the n64 tanked, then Sony was king and they thought of themselves invincible, xbox came around…I guess is Microsofts turn…

  • safdf

    Hey, Microsoft, isn’t it time to go to Shaniqua1990′s cage and put it in front of a computer to do your dirty job. We maybe peasants but we are not slaves.

  • André Seixas

    The whole world against Microsoft position about used Games. And what the Microsoft are going to do? Nothing. Goodbye xbox, for the first time in my life, i ll buy a Sony consol.

    • TheRickshaw

      bye

    • Shaniqua1990

      you said that 3 days ago but ur still here.

  • M1 Abrams

    Ok Microsoft you made up my mind. Im a proud new owner of the Nintendo Wii U, I bought Monster hunter 3, Mario bros and a used copy of Batman Arkham city. Im very impressed with the system. Ijust might buy another U for the bedroom where I can play the games I buy on both machines with no fee, oh yeah and no fee to play batman. If Sony does what Nintendo did ill get one there machines too. Its sad Microsoft lost another customer the funny thing is I own 6 360s one machine for each member of the house. our gold accounts will laps and not be renewed. Good luck selling X1, Ill put my money with a company who knows how to treat consumers.

    • Shaniqua1990

      you can have 10 Xboxs in your house and one copy will enable the entire household of Xbox to play it without the CD (only 1 can be running at a time).

      • ReadTheArticlePlz

        They have not stated this. Anybody can play it on the first xbox, but they are not being clear about subsequent boxes. Their wording makes it look like you will not be able to put it on 10 xboxes just because you have your gamertag on that box. If that was the case people would just log in once to all their friends xboxes and then share all their games.

        • Shaniqua1990

          yes they have, kotaku just made a sensationalist article and cut out parts of the phil harrison interview. can’t post links so you’ll have to cut out the spaces between the .com.
          And its the Xbox’s in your household/family.

          venturebeat . com/2013/05/23/phil-harrison-says-microsoft-will-invest-1b-in-games-for-xbox-one-interview/

          • ReadTheArticlePlz

            I read the article and its still vague. Why can I not just let him borrow my disk (without my gamertag) and have him play the game while he has my disk? During that time I would not be able to play the game but he could. That article covers, still not totally clearly, about families on the same plan in the same house, but nothing about lending friends your games, without you being there, or renting, or reselling your used games.

  • disqus_vkwyaBuO48

    wow, this thread is still going? why even complain. we all know that XO is not losing any gamers. in fact the ones bitching about this are probably the ones that will be pre-ordering the POS. maybe even stand in lines for 2 days to be the first.

    the funniest post i have seen so far is someone actually started a online petition. really?? i mean come the F on!

    do you really think M$ cares if they lose a few thousand people in the hopes of gaining a few hundred thousand to the millions of brand new costumers willing to open their wallets to this new world of entertainment for them.
    everyone flipping out thinking what they want actually matters. it doesn’t, get over it and take like the good paying costumers you are.

    • Ratros

      You may also want to check the comment section of IGN, Eurogamer and a few other places. That’s exactly where most hardcore gamers are, and I’m pretty sure that’s not just a few thousand people.

      • disqus_vkwyaBuO48

        my whole point is every time something new happens people scream the same exact thing and are always the first to rush out and make it an instant success. their is a reason 80% of Xbox owners are from the US. its sad people will fork out cash to this pathetic company just because its new tech that aint even new… wow their new XO can daisy chain the existing cable box into the new console. they are using an updated IR blaster.

        like i said, people will flock to it after they announce all the games at E3, all will be forgiven let alone forgotten and everyone’s wallets will be pumping out that cash once again! Xbox targeted the right audience back when they made people pay for online service. they weeded out the people that wont blindly pay them retarded fee’s that even game developers don’t charge access to. they built their entire system around a core group of gamers that are like ATM’s. people say its only $5 a month. $60 a year. great i say, now that $300 system just cost you 1100 over the life span, not to include games.

        • safdf

          By the way, did you know that you’ll need an additional HDMI compliant cable box to use some of the TV functionalities?

          • disqus_vkwyaBuO48

            most up to date set top boxes already do. if you don’t have one just contact your local provider and ask for an updated box. it will only cost you a small fee to do so. otherwise short your current box out and call support saying your cable tv is not working and they will come out to check it and then replace it with a newer box :D

          • safdf

            Did you know that in many countries, cable providers give HD services as premium services?
            XBOX ONE is not only design with subscription TV viewers in mind is also only designed with the US in mind.

          • Shaniqua1990

            it’s called a descrambler because cable companies encrypt their cable signals

          • safdf

            In that case is a cable decrypter, it used to be scrambled with analog signals, I guess your masters didn’t program you with that information today. What are your orders today? Yesterday was to call us everyone “peasants”, before that you called us “pirates”.

      • safdf

        According to MS spokes-entity, Shaniqua1990, we are considered peasants and MS and Shaniqua1990 do not want peasants using the XBOX ONE. Hardcore gamers are welcomed as long as they have all the means to deal with the large money consumption and 24/7 surveillance.

  • muffinmann

    will not listen to us! as long as the Americans buy the new Xbox it will not change anything. in Europe it will be different because many are not to be kidding. I will definitely not buy one Xbox Wii U or maybe ne ne see ps4 times.

    • safdf

      XBOX ONE, Made in America for Americans only.

    • Shaniqua1990

      scram u dirty peasant euro

      • muffinmann

        what is your problem? you can buy the expensive remote control so happy! I buy to let ne console to play and not watch to me about me. and I also like to play my rent! if you’re big time at some point and have more brain cells you might comprehend what the problem is.

        • Shaniqua1990

          scram u poor peasant, your presence is not welcome here in the shrine of the XBOX ONE MASTER RACE!

          • muffinmann

            wow if the voices in your head be worse I was recommend a doctor.

  • Jamie Putnam

    Just read retailers wanting to sell used X1 games will need to be linked to MS servers so the games code can be removed from the gamers profile and so MS and publishers get a cut.

  • safdf

    Has anyone noticed no one has said “International release”?

  • disqus_1OtrXrjfYH

    So this is what Phil Harrison is saying:
    “Harrison: Just like today, if you have a game disc that you buy from the store, you can play that game. The game is now installed to the hard drive. Any user who is associated with that Xbox One can play that game. I can give that game disc to my son and he can go and take it to another machine inside the house and play it on that machine. Just like today, only one of us can play it at any one time.
    The difference, though — the benefit of Xbox One is that that data can roam with me. I can go to my friend’s house. I can log in as myself into his machine. I can then play that game on his machine, and while I’m logged in, he can play it as well.

    http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/23/phil-harrison-says-microsoft-will-invest-1b-in-games-for-xbox-one-interview/

    Got it from Neogaf thread

    • disqus_vkwyaBuO48

      lol, yes that is what everyone is complaining about.

      • Shaniqua1990

        that anyone in your household can play the game on any xbox without the disc after you install it (albeit only 1 copy can be played at once, JUST LIKE TODAY)?
        That you can log on anywhere in the world and download ur game and just start playing?

        sounds awesome

        • disqus_vkwyaBuO48

          no the simple fact that i cant pirate the game. now i have to charge friends an hourly fee to borrow me, my game and my time just for them to play it. does m$ think im just going to give friends open access to my live account? heck no. i want a piece of that $7 billion cash crop also.

          • Shaniqua1990

            lol, you’re angry cause u can’t pirate games anymore from the xbox one. scram u filthy pirate peasant

          • disqus_vkwyaBuO48

            ok i am actually a little upset, i was hoping it would have access to skynet.

            hey the one thing they could actually do for us is create an app for the kinect that will set off an alarm if it detects an intruder or someone it doesn’t recognize . they did say it will recognize us and know what we like and don’t like…. well i don’t like intruders watching my tv or playing my Xbox’s while im not home.

            its ok if M$ watches and listens through kinect i trust them completely. especially since we have laws that protect our civil liberties and right to privacy. well kinda, i mean the law was just changed recently saying digital privacy of consumers and what they do/use/like can be monitored and sold to third party’s to include corporations as well as law enforcement. and since you would be recorded digitally its perfectly legal for them to stop by once and awhile to say “HELLO DAVE” in the eyes of the law.

            lol, no no no im just joking.

            but the app thing would be cool because i could truly have an all in one system then. lets see….a home alarm system, DVR, a spy camera/nanny cam, Blu-Ray player, games console, telephone, internet, text’s, cable tv, music player, picture sharer/viewer, kinect for exercise…”very important” which brings me to no more getting up becuse YOUR THE REMOTE! “XBOX ON….. XBOX SWITCH CHANNELS FOR ME”!!! fantasy league for the NFL… holy Swiss cheese! the list just keeps going and going…. and the best part is it all comes wrapped in a old Sony betamax case!

  • disqus_1OtrXrjfYH

    Lets not get carried away just yet. E3!!!!Believe!!!

  • safdf

    Petitions are useless, this forum has been proved to be useless too. Stop wasting your time, gamers go to Nintendo and Sony, music and TV subscribers, come to XBOX ONE.

 

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