June 10th 2013 11:10 am PT

My Interview with Emmett Shear, CEO of Twitch

I had the chance to chat with Emmett Shear, CEO of Twitch about the partnership we announced today at E3. Here is more information about the partnership, what Twitch offers gamers, and Shears’ favorite games.

Major Nelson (MN): What does Xbox One integration of Twitch mean for the future of live broadcasting?
Shear: This is our chance to break into the console space in a big way. To date, PC games have been the biggest things on Twitch, mostly because it’s incredibly difficult to broadcast console games today. The Xbox One integration means that Twitch users are going to be able to broadcast their console experiences even more easily than they can broadcast from PC. Live broadcasting your game is going to be for everyone in the future, not just people who can afford a capture card.

MN: What excites you most about coming to the Xbox platform, specifically Xbox One?
Shear: The Xbox One platform combines the best parts of console gaming with the best parts of PC gaming. Dedicated hardware for high level performance, combined with multitasking to run broadcasting and chat at the same time. The platform melds gaming with other activities in a way that we’ve never seen before. There’s no way we could have accomplished what we’re doing with the Xbox One on any other platform.

MN: In your wildest dreams, did you expect Twitch to blow up like it has over the last 18-24 months?

Shear: Well, probably in the wildest ones! In seriousness, I did not expect this amount of growth so fast. I always thought that game streaming was going to be big, but to see it take off the way it has is really gratifying. Of course as you grow you have all kinds of new, bigger, more interesting problems. So at the very least, it’s never boring!

MN: If I’m a gamer that has never experienced Twitch, how would you convince me that it is worthwhile?

Shear: It depends a lot on what kind of gamer you are. If you love Call of Duty multiplayer, Twitch offers you the chance to see some of the sickest kill streaks you’ve ever seen and watch tactics from the very best. If you love Minecraft worlds, Twitch lets you see all the mods you could be using and get inspiration for new creations. If you love League of Legends, Twitch is your chance to watch the top teams in the entire world battle for supremacy.

MN: What’s your favorite game to play?
Shear: I love all kinds of games. I’m kind of a game omnivore. Most recently I’ve actually been playing a lot of board games and card games. Magic: The Gathering, Small World, Coup. On the computer, usually Heart of the Swarm. My all-time most played game is almost certainly StarCraft: Broodwar. Close second to Super Smash Brothers.

MN: What’s your favorite game to watch other play?
Shear: Of course I enjoy watching games that I play, so Starcraft and Magic obviously rank highly. I actually love watching DOTA 2 and League of Legends as well, even though I don’t really play either. The strategic depth is really high and the games are super tense but it’s a genre I haven’t ever put the time in to learn myself.

MN: What has surprised you the most over the last 24 months?
Shear: The generosity of the Twitch community. I am continually surprised to see that not only will gamers on Twitch pull together to support each other and the broadcasters they love, they’ll find ways to support good causes around the world.

MN: Twitch is often associated with eSports, but there is a lot more being streamed than competitive gaming. Can you elaborate on what other types of content people are tuning in to Twitch to view?
Shear: While eSports is obviously an important part of what’s on Twitch, it’s actually a minority of the total content on the site. The other three major categories are educational, creative, and interactive content. Educational content is made from streams that people watch to learn from, like coaching or just detailed analytical commentary. Creative content is all about showing off exciting new things that people have figured out they can do in a game, stuff you never would have expected. And interactive content, the biggest set of content, is all about the viewer interacting with the streamer live in the middle of the stream. Obviously these categories can overlap, so you can have creative educational content, or interactive eSports content, but most things fall into one or the other.

MN: What has changed to make video games so popular among spectators?
Shear: Put simply: it’s now possible. Internet connections are fast enough and video encoding is widespread enough that it’s possible to create this content. Live video is a lot more bandwidth intensive than clip-based video, so it makes sense that it’s taking off later.

MN: What’s next for Twitch now that you’ve conquered the gaming space?
Shear: I wouldn’t say we’ve conquered the gaming space yet. We have a good start, but there’s a long way to go still. Until every single gamer on every platform knows they can catch the best gameplay and coolest new streams on Twitch, we’re not done.

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  • ryder4life22187

    My work already announced that we will have a meeting on selling the xbox one and that we will not be covering the truth about all the DRM and internet as mandatory. Good luck MS as we usually sell more 360’s then PS3’s right now. Looks like it will be the other way around.

    • Mike Jones

      yup i heard about this from a bestbuy employee consumer deception

    • Volitar Prime

      I hope you will be prepared to handle a large number of returns from parents who buy one for their kids not knowing the restrictions.

  • IntenSePinda

    ” Hello 911?

    This is 911, what is your emergency?

    I need to report a murder, Xbox One is dead. The Ps4 just Killed it!

    We’re sending an ambulance now.

    WiiU WiiU WiiU WiiU ”

    • Fernando Coli Viotto

      HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAA this is the best comment ever

  • Senses Failed

    Seriously? So many comments and not one #dealwithit jab. I am disappoint

    • Dylan

      Check out the “details of connectivity” blog post here.
      We make quite a few, and are at 8000+ comments :)

  • wrestlefan01

    imagine santa bringing a kid an xbox one but the family doesnt have net only to realize he cant play the system santa brought him.

    • dibils

      santa isnt real

      • ie5x

        Tell that to the kid :)

  • James

    You can play ANY game you own,
    from a friends place, with all your friends signed in, without having a
    disc. Sorry I don’t see the problem. You can play any of your games WITH
    your friends, from ANYWHERE.
    THE GAME IS ATTACHED TO YOUR ACCOUNT
    PEOPLE. Its no different to Steam. I personally like opening ANY
    computer and having access to my ENTIRE library from ANYWHERE.

    You can’t give your discs to unlimited friends? Jesus christ get some
    friends who have a bloody job. It’s not that big of a deal. The only
    thing I care about is being able to trade them in and guess what, THAT’S
    CONFIRMED!

    The whole cloud gaming, play-your-games-from-anywhere feature
    wouldn’t work if you could just copy your disc around. One disc would
    service hundreds of people…

    HOW IS IT ANY DIFFERENT TO STEAM OR ITUNES? Except they essentially
    let you give it away to a friend when your done with it, who may be able
    to pay you some of the purchase price.

    • James

      As far as the PS4 being so much “cheaper” Its $100, and in some regions even less. People are going to be using these things for literally hundreds and hundreds (if not thousands) of hours during their lifetime and people are bickering over $100. Give me a break..

      The One exclusives are more to my taste, hence I’d rather pay $100 extra. Its inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. I’m not wealthy at all. I just understand the simple fact that the amount of hours I will get out of this thing completely warrant the price…

      • Dennis Crosby

        people also are forgetting that the ps4 isnt launching in every country either

        • Dylan

          It isn’t region locked so it isn’t a big deal, they can get it imported from any country/language.

          The Xbox One IS region locked.

        • BigBernard

          Xbox One isn’t out in Asia until 2014

          • Dennis Crosby

            who know when the ps4 will even reach Asia

          • Dylan

            Day 1, you troll.
            Asia is their biggest market, and the PS3 dominates there.

    • Dennis Crosby

      People dont see the bigger picture.yes you won’t be able to physical let your friend hold your disk.but they will be able to play your whole library with out you even driving to go meet thing.you have to think out of the box people

      • ReadTheArticlePlz

        Only if you are signed into their machine, this share with 10 is not share with 10 friends, its share with up to 10 family. You think they wont have some sort of complicated method for proving they are family. Heck they wont even let you give a game away to somebody who hasn’t been on your friends list for at least 30 days.

    • ReadTheArticlePlz

      What kind of awesome internet do you have? To do their whole “go to a friends house and log in, then you have your whole library available, just d/l the game and play” you have to have some amazing d/l speeds. How fast do you think you will be able to download a next gen game? Its going to take hours to d/l one of those games.

  • Fernando Coli Viotto

    It would be better if your interview covered the “infinit power of the cloud” since no one would pay $499 for a inferior hardware plush the restrictions you want implement.

    I think this cloud stuff just only marketing advertising since nothing was talked about it.

    By the way, this conference was way better than the one 15 days ago, congrats for that.

  • Kieran

    X Box One is not as powerful as the PS4, but somehow, it ends up been more expensive how? If it is because of Kinect remove it all together, by releasing another version of the console, without it and at a cheaper price?

    PS4 has all the advantages now. Sorry i can live with DRM, but 100 Euro difference between the two machines is a lot. And not been able to play offline what bright spark at Microsoft thought of that?

    • Dennis Crosby

      how offend do people play games off-line these days and the cloud services sounds pretty cool .devs can update games on the fly . actually make the world for you game bigger without suggesting it to be dlc because it cant fit on the disk.

      • Kieran Tsao

        I play offline all the time with my 360, when I don’t want to be disturbed and a connection inevitably stutters the gameplay.

      • ReadTheArticlePlz

        I dunno, you ever hear of this thing called the military? Those guys like to game in their off time but guess what.. their living quarters in the middle east, on a ship, etc… more often then not… don’t have internet. How are they supposed to play? What about people that live in rural areas and cannot get broadband internet? The xbox one requires broadband so these people cannot get it.

  • Orlandito Torres

    Major Nelson, from a strictly business perspective Microsofts DRM stance is not worth it. The negative press is amazing. Talk to your people. Convince them. Drop DRM and authentication and then the games (which were better imho than PS4) will shine.
    I for one preordered from Amazon my PS4 as soon as the conference was over. I had ordered earlier the Xbox’ One but if this bad press continues I will cancel it. Don’t want to spend that kind of money on a system that will be dead on arrival.

  • ie5x

    PS4 –

    * Better H/W with upgradeable HDD
    * Cheaper
    * No evil 1984 mode
    * No Region locks
    * Old school game sharing

    * And definitely Ad-Metro free!

    So, someone please convince me why I should still care about XB One? Exclusives!? Twitch!? meh…

    • Dennis Crosby

      understand this xbox one is gonna allow you to share your whole library with your friends. i rather for them to get it that way instead of scratching my disc. region locks i really dont care about i buy all my games in the usa. yea its cheaper but none of there exclusives are appealing to me

      • Dylan

        No it won’t.
        It’ll allow you to give your game licence away. Once. And it can’t be transferred back.
        And that won’t even be available at launch!!

        • jlh

          You can share a game library with up to ten people on the Xbox One. And that is available at launch.

          • Dylan

            Family members only.
            Not trading to friends.

          • jlh

            The old family plan worked the same way with groups of friends going in together under one plan. Ten is a very high number just for family.

          • safdf

            No, the old plan was just to play online, not to use your fully-paid games. What’s wrong with you people? What is it you don’t understand.

          • jlh

            That’s not the point at all. The point is that the old family plan was not limited to just “family”. On the Xbox One it would be foolish to believe that a group of friends wouldn’t join together to share all the features of the new family rules especially considering that you can have up to ten people on one plan.

          • Richard Pitt

            Only one master account so you will need to get one member of your friends to be mother and hold all the games

          • TonyLN

            No, you get access to all the games of all the members – the master account just hold the gold subscription and has to foot the related bill. And you can put anyone on it that you want; I have a friend on my 4 person family pass now.

      • ie5x

        The sharing which only recognizes my listed friends. And must have them listed for a month which is truly asinine, since there is not a single thread of logic which justifies this policy.

        And this console is not about USA, so please stop measuring everyone with the same stick. In today’s open world, it’d be a really backasswards strategy for a multinational company.

        • safdf

          This console is about USA, no one knows what Twitch is, not even in Mexico and it’s not like we’re way down due south. Prior to this XBone nonsense, I’ve never heard of Twitch and still don’t know what that is.

          • ReadTheArticlePlz

            Twitch is just a way to stream what you do. If you don’t have a bunch of followers it has no point. “Ohh boy, I’m going to stream me playing halo 5 to all of my 0 followers!!!” Its just another ego driven service since we all apparently think we are so important that people want to watch us play video games.

          • TonyLN

            I’m in the US and I didn’t know what Twitch was until they talked about it at E3.

      • safdf

        One thing was asking permission for your mom to lend a game to a friend when you are a kid, but to ask a corporation for permission when you are a grown up and paid full price for it, it’s back to the USSR.

  • tabicat

    Well, Major, this is goodbye. I’ve been an Xbox fanboy for over 10 years, and I’ve loathed Sony ever since their rootkit fiasco. But today, all that has changed. You’ve screwed up with the Xbox One. I don’t want any of the restrictions and requirements that the Xbox One has. The PS4 is what gamers want, and I’m a gamer. So after 10 years, I’ll be switching to PS4. You had your chance. You don’t have to add the used-game DRM. You don’t have to add the 24-hour restriction. You don’t have to require Kinect. You don’t have to treat used game buyers as criminals. There is nothing wrong with the way the Xbox 360 handles disc-based games. But you screwed it up anyway. Sony, on the other hand, knows what gamers want. And so, I’ll be getting a PS4 next year. I’ll continue to buy Xbox 360 games as they become available. But there’s no way I’ll buy an Xbox One.

    • ie5x

      Guess Sony learnt their DRM lessons much before, and MS really needs a lot of catching up…

      • safdf

        I think that’s the reason for which they still don’t have a working console, they are rearranging it since the DRM patent leaked so it will be free hardware and standard-wise, something that’s waaaay woo late for XBone.

    • Chris Grub

      Agreed. Even if MS cuts their polices at this point they’ve demonstrated what they’re will to do to make a buck here or there.

      At this point it would take 2 or 3 years of solid service in order to win me back.

      • safdf

        I think that what they will do after the low sales and returns, they will say the games are faulty and have to be recalled along with the systems and they’ll give you new ones with a different hardware and software which no longer has the DRM. It can be their new RROD and you know that the only way they could deal with it was by replacing and releasing a new model. That’s if they are smart enough.

        • Jorge Garza

          Hardware has anything to do with MS’s DRM policies, all that bs is software related.

          They could change the firmware of the Xbox One so it doesn’t required to check-in if they really wanted.

  • Xboner2013

    That was a bloodbath. Ballmer and Don need to go.

  • safdf

    I have a great joke for you, ready?
    XBOX ONE.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (It’s been cracking me up since last evening) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • sebastianboehm

    Some tips, how to UNFU(K the XBOX ONE

    1. Make KINECT optional, not an essential Part of the System. There
    are many Gamers who dont like Aerobic so they will not pay for it. Sell
    an XBOX ONE without Motion Controller for 399.- EURO/$. Sony is NOT
    INCLUDING any Camera in the PS4 Box! So no need to fear of motion
    control game elements in core games!

    2. Make a clear Decisision how to display games regarding Motion
    Control. It is extremely important that it is clear at first look if a
    game can be played completely without Aerobics or not!

    3. Change the DRM System for Games on Disk. Make them be playable
    offline, without 24h internet Access required. We want to use Games
    outside of internet connected areas, we want to lend games to our frinds
    even those who are not 30 days in our list and i want to buy a used
    game and sell it again. everywhere. from a friend and to a neighbour for
    example.

    I really would like to stay with XBOX because i love my 360 but if
    this issues will not be fixed i will move on to the next system. I would
    prefere to collect achievments instead of trophies, but to be honest, i
    will not accept the many disadvantages of xbox one.

    Do you really want to loose the console race next generation already
    half a year before the first systems are sold? What is going on with
    microsoft company, why dont you listen to your customers. i am not a
    sony fanboi! i own more than 60 xbox 360 games. Microsoft should start
    to listen and understand what the customers want.

    look at windows 8, we dont want to use tiles at all, so a start
    button is only a placebo solution in windows 8.1! Give us back the start
    menu and give us apps running in normal standard windows. listen to
    your customers or learn it the hard way.

    On the console market, you have a competitor, if you dont listen to
    your customers and do what they want they will buy somewhere else. we
    are the customers, we are the kings! never forget this!

    • safdf

      It’s all hardware architecture, you can’t make all of a sudden just by a firmware update to make a DVD drive to read BDs. If they try it that way it will only be temporary if any.

      • ReadTheArticlePlz

        I think the problem here is MS is thinking if they give the customer no other option they will like it as opposed to finding out what the customer wants and then doing it that way.

    • TonyLN

      Works for you, but I like the way it is now; the family share sold me the second they announced it – the people being vocal are the people that don’t like it, PS-fans and trolls — I’m not saying it works great for everyone; but it’s not as bad as most people are making it out to be.

      I also like the fact that developers can make a game knowing the gamer has a Kinect. They (MS) should look at allowing it to be disconnected though.

  • Richard Pitt

    They can’t change DRM because XB1 games have to be installed. Some people would just keep it offline and install then sell there games.

    • safdf

      No, because after install it has to receive the DRM to unlock it, just like with XBLA after you pay. You might have the game installed but still need permission, after that, the network has to check that the registered disc’s serial number is being played at the console it was attached to every 24 hours.

      • Richard Pitt

        That’s what I said

        • safdf

          Yeah, but you said to keep it offline, that’s impossible, there is no solution for all of this. Let’s see how MS DEALS WITH IT. Recalling to recycle?

          • TonyLN

            He was saying that is why they cannot get rid of the DRM.

          • Richard Pitt

            Exactly

          • safdf

            Oh, sorry.

          • Richard Pitt

            np :) .

          • Guest

            np :)

        • sebastianboehm

          Maybe you should be a tiny little bit more creative. or look how drm is handled on 360.

          Disk in Drive is the key to unock a game, but you still can install it on HDD. Xbox 360 checks Disk, plays from HDD and stopps playing if you remove the disk!

          • Richard Pitt

            Yes because that worked great with PC. XB1 will be a pirates paradise

          • sebastianboehm

            xbox 360 isnt a pirates paradise. and works as i have described it. pc is different, you have acces to the hardware there. you can run every software you want.

    • sebastianboehm

      OF COURSE THEY CAN CHANGE DRM !!!

      They just have to use the DRM System they already used on XBOX 360. I am sure non of the Games announced for XBOX ONE are already in production, so there can still be changes made regarding the media and stuff!

      MY 360 does not need a DRM to unlock it, it is unlocked by the DISK in the DRIVE. Dont tell me that such Technology available for many years cannot be put into a new system.

      So if someone keeps his 360 offline and takes the Disk out of the drive, it will not run anymore even if he has installed the game on HDD! So where is the problem with unfu(king xbox one???

      • safdf

        No, they can’t, is like if you want the XBOX 360 to read Gamecube games, it’s the hardware that can’t deal with DRM free games, they can’t change the DRM the way it’s implemented.
        Remember the Wii? In order to add accounts for digital purchases, they had to make the Wii U.

        • sebastianboehm

          Do you have access to the technical details of the hardware?
          i am quite sure details on how drm works in detail are kept secret.

          but even if the hardware requires a drm key to play games, there is a simple solution:

          1. check if disk is in drive
          2. create that drm key by the operation system
          3. system working and unfu[ked…

          i am sure this can be solved. if not, they are really fu[ked up!

          • safdf

            If it could be solved, they could after Adam Orth’s #dealwithit, they could have fixed it after the reveal.
            And if it could actually be solved, is more than obvious they are not planning to do it.

    • Andy

      The anti-piracy / DRM measures the 360 incorporated were efficient enough. When the game is pressed at the publisher, the disc uses a unique manufacturing process — a process the Xbox knows to look for before proceeding to launch the game. Some tech-savvy guys invariably figured out how to circumvent the format check for the DVD via hardware modification, but once that is done it effectively nukes the console as Microsoft will ban both the console and the Live account associated with it the minute it goes online. THAT was a fair punishment, and an effective piracy deterrent. People who hacked their Xboxes to play illegal copies would have their console blacklisted from Live, and all of their Live / Arcade / downloadable content would be forfeit from their account.

      In contrast, the Xbox One’s policies cast a furtive glance at every customer, as if it assumes the consumers will commit a crime the minute they relax their guard. It’s ridiculous, it’s excessive, and in all likelihood it will have the exact OPPOSITE effect of what they hoped to accomplish in the first place. I guarantee within 6-18 months, somebody will figure out how to get around all of the DRM policies, whether it requires someone to physically modify the hardware itself (which will of course create a separate market in its own right siphoning sales away from Microsoft’s profit margins) or go the way the original Xbox softmod went, allowing someone to execute a save game file that would crash the console and allow unauthorized code to be run.

      None of this looks good for Microsoft, and it may very well backfire on them.

  • Michel Van Lingner

    How does it feel? You will take the crown away from EA, worst company in United States, way to go Microsoft :D

  • TonyLN

    Hey Major, Personally I’m good with the connected DRM & Kinect. I like the fact that I can install a game and toss the disk; and than anyone of the people on my family pass can use the game. It rocks for me and the way I game…

    But you and/or Microsoft need to get up on some stage and address those issues; you need to explain the advantages and why you decided to do the things you’ve done or the hate is going to keep raging.

  • GmailIsDown

    Now that both consoles are open for preorder, should be interesting to see the preorder numbers.

    • TonyLN

      amazon com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames

      PS4 is #1, One is #2… Not sure how to see the numbers; but people must not hate the One that much if it’s in the #2 spot.

      • safdf

        Out of 2, someone has to be in number 2. When there’s 5, you’ll have your reasonable doubt.

        • TonyLN

          That’s out of all the video game preorders; including games and what-not. The PS4 controller is #4 & the PS$ camera is #12. There are no One accessories because you cannot order those yet as MS has not yet released a price.

  • DLdano

    Another thing putting me off Xbox one is the way my beloved Halo is being squeezed for every penny by the money obsessed execs now running Xbox.
    I personally think Major is a good person and fellow gamer, my advice to him would be: Get out while you can with your reputation intact.

    • Victor Henrique Tavares Soares

      Major shoud’ve presented the E3

    • BigBernard

      I think he’ll be gone within a year.

  • safdf

    What’s wrong with you people? What is it you don’t understand?
    -You don’t own the game you’ll pay full price.
    -You can’t lend unless you relinquish your rights of use and transfer it to your friend after he’s been approved by MS, in other word, if you lend, you can’t have it back.
    -It has to be connected with super high speed Internet, something that even in some developed countries with better economy than the US is not available or affordable.
    -Kinect is always watching and hearing you and collecting all info, when you turn “off” or put on “pause”, the only thing it stops doing is allow you to control the console, but it’s still connected to the console, which always is connected to the net, or else!

    Why do you still think MS is good? Why do you think you owe them? They owe US, we are the ones who give them the money, Even if they give us games, if we are not here to give them the money, they starve to death. WE are in control of corporation. WE have made them fall in the past. Atari, 3DO, Coleco, PanAm, Commodore. WE made them fall because they stopped doing things right.

    • Victor Henrique Tavares Soares

      I agree with you …. I’m probably buying the PS4 at first…..

      But one thing I have to say is that this feature that Xbox One let you play any of your game anywhere is pretty awesome. Unfortunately my internet connection here in Brazil is kinda aweful. So I guess I won’t be able to use it !!

      • safdf

        If that’s at your house, imagine with your friends. Same problem here in Mexico, there is no benefit on that feature and imagine the scene, you’ll be showing off your friend your game and if he plays it, all achievements and stuff unlock by him will be yours, at least when you lend, he gets to keep all achievements in his account, he has to buy his sealed, never-used copy or his used copy officially re-endorsed by the publisher.

      • ReadTheArticlePlz

        Dont forget in order to play your games you have to d/l them first. How is your internet connection because those games will probably start out at 10-20 gigs but over time the devs will make them fill up those 50 gig blue ray disks. Can you imagine the wait time to d/l a 30-40 gig game? It will be hours at your friends house before you can actually play.

        • TonyLN

          Or you could install them off of the disk.

          • ReadTheArticlePlz

            True, but then you have to lug the disks around and so many of you are like “once I install it i can chuck the disk” or “it will be so nice to just buy it at midnight on launch digitally” so will you really be dragging disks everywhere with you?

        • Victor Henrique Tavares Soares

          That’s a great point you’ve made sir ! Kudos !!

          And , at least here in my city, my xbox always have slower Internet D/L speeds…
          I hope, HOPE, Microsoft won’t make us upload the game first in order to play. They should have every game already in the cloud and we’re only buying the ‘serial key’.
          Because upload a 20 gigabyte game using my Internet connection …..

          I’m so happy with this PS4 announcement that I’m renewing my PS+ account right now.
          Xbox will only see the light of my money when I’ll purchase the next Trials and Plants V. Zombies…..

          *****

          PS.: I know that this is not Microsoft’s fault, it’s on Brazilian retail stores…. but the Xbox One is going to set us back 2,199 Reais … which is around 1020 USD… So that sucks !

          • safdf

            A thousand?, what I estimated for Mexico, around 750 dollars after taxes, seem quite cheap now. WOW!
            By the way, Trials will be available for PS4 and PvZ will be also for 360, you won’t have to give THE ONE your money.

      • BigBernard

        So….it’s not very awesome then is it?

        • Victor Henrique Tavares Soares

          I think that the Koenigsegg Agera R is an awesome looking and fast car…I can’t purchase it … that does not change the fact that it rocks !

          • Victor Henrique Tavares Soares

            And yes… I googled koenigsegg

          • BigBernard

            No, you *could* theoretically purchase it and it would work fine, unlike the other scenario.

          • Victor Henrique Tavares Soares

            Dude, I’m from Brazil….can’t pass 100 MPH , the roads won’t allow…..

  • Tyadres

    Right now the PS4 seems to be the players choice especially after Sony took an open shot at Microsoft at the end of their conference including the youtube instructional video on how to share games on PS4. The made sure they said “no 24 hours check in” or restrictions on used games. Even region lock doesn’t exist on PS4….So how do you respond to that MS?

    • safdf

      Have any links to it, it must be very funny. PS4 is the winner (if the Wii U doesn’t make something spectacular, weirder things have happened in the past)

  • CarlosGabriel

    Microsoft, just fix the DRM and the connectivity policies and you’re good to go :)

    • TonyLN

      Please don’t change it – I like not having to have my disk in the drive and allowing anyone in my family have a gold account and access to all of my games (and having access to all of theirs).

      • Andy

        A fairer compromise would be not REQUIRING you to install the game to your hard drive, but if you do, having that copy of the game locked to your account so that you can’t pass around one copy for 50 people to install for free. In that capacity, the “reinstall” fee would be less irksome, but no matter how you look at it, it still shafts the preowned market.

        • TonyLN

          That would be nice; but not how they are working it. Either way the preowned market is going to shift. Sony still hasn’t said how they are doing it – I’ve preorded a PS4 (and a One) so don’t take this as PS4/Sony hate, I just have a feeling in my gut that Sony has some bad news coming and are just going to ride it out for as long as they can.

          • Andy

            I’m sure Sony is well aware of the current state of the gaming industry as well as the global economy, and I’m sure all the console giants will have their time riding the crest of the wave, as well as struggling to stay afloat other times. STILL, what it comes down to is that Microsoft has made choices concerning their console’s functionality and DRM policies that do not reflect the needs and demands of society. There are many places where internet is not available, which means that people living in those areas are invariably excluded. There are people who have a limited budget where disposable income is concerned, so assuming someone blew their whole tax return to buy this console, they will not be able to get cheap preowned games. And then there is of course the big elephant in the living room nobody wants to talk about — the ever-present Kinect.

          • ReadTheArticlePlz

            The impression I got is that if it is disk based it will be just like it always has been. However, I assume that with digital downloaded titles the drm will be very similar to MS. And that is acceptable to me. I don’t hold a digital download to the same standards as a disk in my hand.

  • XBL: xX TriPLe Xx

    MS f**ked up big time this time around.. I been a Xbox fan since day 1… The whole kinect requirement isn’t that big of deal for me cause lets be honest who in the world would wanna spy on a bunch of gamers playing in their under wears while eating chips and pizza all day.. but the whole internet requirement every 24 hours that is BS! And the fact the EVERYONE is telling/yelling at them to PLEASE change that on EVERY website you go on!! and they seem to not care or just plan ignoring US the real fans while Sony on the other hand came out and said we are listing and here is what you the fans asked for NO F**KEN RESTRICTIONS/DRM .. really really gets me upset and I won’t be buying an Xbox One my pre order has been cancel .. Now all eyes on Sony now..

    • TonyLN

      Only the people that don’t like it are yelling – the rest are content with how it is (maybe even happy) and several have placed their pre-orders. There are trade-offs, but a lot of people like not having to have the disk in the drive… Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean EVERYONE doesn’t like it.

      People are much more vocal about what they don’t like then what they do – plus you has PS-Fanboyz added into the mix that will complain about anything that MS does different regardless about how they really feel. Just look at the PS+ now needed to play online games — now that the PS needs it, they are defending it and saying that it’s a good thing and they are OK with it.

      • Dr.med. Z. Ombie

        Someone used his brain here, the world is not lost yet.

        All this rage kids are just hilarious, hanging all day in the net, still cryin that their net could go down.

      • Ivanx360xpira

        I really liked X1, and I think it will be a better system than PS4 (considering all features together), I liked the conference, the new games going to be amazing…

        I really would like to pick up one, but it simply doesn´t fit for the region I live. I like games and I´ll have to deal with it…to be a gamer here in Brazil it´s WAY TOO expensive, then we need to figure out strategies that allow us to avoid piracy and these stuffs, importing games, buying used is some of the options we have. My only complaint is that MS should provide other options that fit the most people not just a share of it…

        Whats the problem with importing games because the’re cheaper??They´re original?Why not provide a code when you buy a game to allow y to play offline then?Simple solutions would expand sales of X1 and end this feeling of negativity around X1…

      • XBL: xX TriPLe Xx

        Ok not “EVERYONE” your right.. but like 90% of the comments on every forum I been to.. out of every 10 comments 9 of them are people saying the same thing and also on here… its obvious that gamers aren’t happy with MS policies .. and like I said my only problem is having to check in every 24 hours.. I don’t mind the price.. I have been on Xbox Live since day one! I don’t mind paying for it as well.. All the games at E3 were sweet they showed a lot of cool stuff.. So Im just reaching out to Major Nelson I know its not up to him.. Hoping that if enough people speak out MS might have a change of heart.. if not then I wont be supporting MS this time around..

        • TonyLN

          Right, and they also say that 10X more people will complain about poor service than praise good service. So we are right in line for a 50/50 split (if every comment was made by someone a non-ps-fanboy or troll) — and people are still upset… Within a week most people will have calmed down and will look at the beneficial side of all this.

          I agree MS has an uphill battle against the PS4, it will probably be in 2nd place for most (if not all) of this generation; but overall I think they will be profitable; I highly doubt this will be MS last console as some people are predicting.

          • XBL: xX TriPLe Xx

            Yea I’m not complaining about their services .. Xbox Live is great and MS has been good to me with all my gaming needs.. I have no complains there.. And I agree there will be A LOT good things coming from having your Xbox One online all the time.. But having them to force it on you every 24 hours check-in is my ONLY complain.. where I live some times my internet goes out for a few days.. and if I wanna use my phone as a hotspot I have to pay an extra fee for that.. I wanna be able to play the games I buy with out having to check-in.. that’s all..

          • TonyLN

            It would be nice if they made some way that you could use an app on your phone to authorize a game to work so the Xbox didn’t need to be online or something. Not sure how that would work…
            I have lot’s of great ideas to make this all work out right for them and they could fix it with like 80% of the people who are mad. M$ should contact me for some contract work. =D

      • ReadTheArticlePlz

        Thats cool, there is room in the market for two consoles. What is frustrating though is how many of you assume because we are complaining that we are ps fanboys. I am very much the opposite. I dropped sony for the original xbox and never looked back. I wanted the xbox one to be the next console i buy but MS seems to be doing everything they can to make me not want it. I have been stating my opinion in hopes if enough of us do it that MS will change. However they don’t seem to care and are banking on enough new people buying it to offset those of us they loose. Sony on the other hand are appearing to directly target those of use that feel alienated by MS.

        • TonyLN

          Nope – I’m not making assumption; it’s pretty easy to spot them. The only people I assume are PS-Fanboys are the ones that keep making the same comments over and over; short comments — that are just meant to start an argument.

          I know there are plenty of people out there that loved the 360 and are sad/mad about the way things are changing. I honestly think that for most of those people if they would sit back, relax and think about the positives and negatives they would see the advantage.

          The people that are truly effected by this (i.e. live in places without internet) I feel for, but it’s always been that way as technology advances – some people get left behind, they demand change so they can use that technology, a market is created and that technology comes…

  • Ivanx360xpira

    for me the game is over…especially because MS probably isn´t going to change anything about these BS of DRM and used games. I swear thar tried until the last minute to give some credit to MS, but they screwed with all consumers and loyal fans, especially outside US. I almost pre-order one X1 here in Brazil (here we will pay U$1000 for the console, its outrageous, currency is 2:1).

    Not just for the price but mostly because these BS policies and because Sony respected the rights of consumers. Also, PS4 will be region free unlike X1, and this feature is important to me, ojnce I usually import games, because they´re too expensive here…

    For me the truth is, MS projected a too pricey box that meets the demand of US and few countries that have more developed services like some countries of Europe. X1 will be useless in third world…it´s sad, because I love my 360 and have up to 90 games, everything original, most of them I imported and a good share are used games…

    I´m really disappointed that MS just forgot about the markets outside US. I´m sad but it´s time to CHANGE and pick a PS4 this time…

    • sebastianboehm

      i understand your problems but believe me, this is not only a problem between first and third world, but also between city and countryside here in germany. on of my favorite places to relax, a small hotel near to winterberg, has no internet, not even mobile networks work there. Your decision for the ps4 is a good choice i think. by the way, here in german games are also very expensive and many of them are cut so some scenes or textures can be changed to make them look less bloody. so many people also import games to get the original feeling.

      Finally, i think we have only one world. Greetings to Brazil!

      • Ivanx360xpira

        Amen to that! Greetings to Germany :)!

  • XbonedinOklahoma

    I have only owned XBOX, and i waited for E3 to make my decision for the next generation. Unless MS changes its policies, I will preorder PS4. And that makes me sad.

    • Victor Henrique Tavares Soares

      Why that makes you sad bro … Are you a share holder ??

      Because if you’re sad about buying a ‘better’ console .. I have bad news for you pal

      • sebastianboehm

        her is sad lik e am sad. i would prefere to stay with a company, but the ps4 is so much supoerior, so i will have to move on.

        i am not sad for buying the better console, in fact i was very happy last night because there is at least one acceptable next gen console. but i am sad it is not the new xbox…

        • safdf

          A lot of people act as if they owe MS, we paid for the games, didn’t we? We owe them nothing.

      • XbonedinOklahoma

        It is about brand loyalty that doesn’t extend just from customer to company but the reverse as well.

  • Socal71

    It’s the 11th, where’s info on the ‘Sunny Day Sale’? Is it $100 off an Xbox One

  • DarthBurrito

    Larry, I really hope you are reading the comments that the
    Xbox community are leaving. People are very upset with the DRM and 24 hour
    policy that has been imposed. I’m a very loyal MS fan and I have to admit that
    the announcement on price, DRM, and any restrictions that the PS4 will NOT have
    was a big blow to Microsoft and the Xbox One.

    I understand you are not the decision maker, but you are the
    face of Xbox and Xbox Live. Microsoft has to change their stance on this issue
    because it looks like the PS4 is going to pull a lot of Xbox fans away.

    I have hope that Microsoft will change its policy and become
    a lot more gamer friendly. If not, then Xbox One could be the last Xbox console
    ever released.

    • TonyLN

      He doesn’t need to read any of this – he and MS know how everyone is reacting. They need to get up on some stage and explain why they are doing things the way they are and how they see it being good for gamers.

      I find it hard to believe they don’t have some good news for us on this — Built-In used game store, cheaper prices for games, etc… They have to have something, but they are not saying anything so maybe not…

      They could also be waiting for Sony to finish playing their hand. They (Sony) hasn’t said anything about how their used games are “really” going to work, because there is no way MS is doing this used game thing and Sony isn’t — especially since MS doesn’t get any of the used game money, it all goes to the publishers; there is zero motivation for MS to do that unless it was demanded by the publishers, and if that’s the case Sony has to have something in place too.

    • safdf

      Don’t feel that you owe them, that’s what they are expecting from you and why they are not changing anything, is not that they are not listening, they don’t care.
      You are the customer, they owe you, they owe us, OWE, not OWN.
      WE OWN THEIR A*SES.

    • Bledderblabla

      Do you think they care if a part of the Xbox hardcore gamers will leave? WAKE UP. The Xbox One is intended to appeal to the MAINSTREAM. The mainstream is always bigger than the harcore gamer side. MS want’s a pice of the original Wii pie. That’s were the money lies. Not with the gamers.

      • ReadTheArticlePlz

        The Wii is also 200 dollars cheaper. The mainstream doesn’t pay 500 bucks on a whim.

        • dibils

          ipad..

          • ReadTheArticlePlz

            and how much do I pad games cost? 60 dollars??? no. 99 cents. Totally different markets. Can I use my ipad without an internet connection, for days, weeks, months at a time? You bet. Can I choose to never connect my ipad to the internet? Yep.

          • dibils

            have you tried an ipad without internet? nothing to do

            “Can I choose to never connect my ipad to the internet?” thats a no, since you need the internet to download apps and games :D you cant buy games on a disc in a store ;)

            when you relate that to x1, you only need to connect once a day then you can play it offline

          • ReadTheArticlePlz

            actually I can d/l the games, books, music, videos, etc.. to my pc and then sync my ipad to my pc. My ipad never has to connect to the internet if I so choose.

  • Dr.med. Z. Ombie

    I hope MS doesnt change anything and sell a shitload of consoles, just to make you all cry.

    • sebastianboehm

      yes they will sale the same sh|tload of consoles like they sell a sh|tload of windows 8 with its fu(ked up user interface.

      Sorry microsoft can learn one thing from sony: LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS AND LEARN HOW TO PLEASE THEM !!!

      • Nick Peck

        They will “sale” huh? Nothing to see here, move along.

      • mightywombat

        They sold 100 million licenses of Windows 8, if they sold that many Xbox Ones, they would dominate this generation.

      • TheHitman1982

        Go troll a sony page fanboy

  • TonyLN

    When the first Xbox came out it was built for HD tvs (several games were near impossible to play on a SD TV) — they also only had a Ethernet port for online play. It was way before it’s time, and it worked great for them

    The 360 required a Live Gold account for online play; look at how much better that online experience was than what was given for free by Sony. All the PS-Fanboyz said people were dumb for paying that money – but we (the Xbox fans) all said it was worth it, because you get what you pay for. Now that the PS is going to require it for their online multiplayer they (the ps-fans) are all over supporting it.

    MS has always tried to push gaming to the next level and provide a superior gaming experience. To do something new you need to embrace change. Looking at the games and listening to the developers most of the exclusive AAA titles (the only reason I get consoles) are using cloud computing in some form in their game – you can’t do that without the internet; it’s the next step in console-gaming-evolution.

    Whether it is for checking in, playing multiplayer games or running a game that requires/plays better with Cloud-Computing you are going to need to be connected to the internet.

    The One is build as in internet intensive box, will that alienate some of the users; sure – but for those that can take advantage of the technology (and embrace change) it will create an amazing gaming experience.

    • ReadTheArticlePlz

      “MS has always tried to push gaming to the next level and provide a
      superior gaming experience. To do something new you need to embrace
      change. Looking at the games and listening to the developers most of the
      exclusive AAA titles (the only reason I get consoles) are using cloud
      computing in some form in their game – you can’t do that without the
      internet; it’s the next step in console-gaming-evolution.”

      This is true but you also have to understand that some people won’t embrace change and some people, be it through location, economics, etc.., cannot and that those people will be lost as customers. MS appears to have no problems with that. And while a perfectly legitimate business decision, it doesn’t mean it is a wise one. To give these things as an option is one thing, to force them on people is another thing altogether.

      • TonyLN

        I hear you; I posted an idea for the internet thing above… But even that doesn’t fix everything. Titanfall & Forza with cloud computing, all your online MP games… Internet is becoming more and more integrated into gaming experiences.

        I also suspect we will see something similar from Sony. They said the PS4 will not require online DRM, but they have hinted that developers can put it in. I think for most of the games from the big-guys we are going to see something very similar on all 3 platforms by the end of the year.

        • ReadTheArticlePlz

          I believe that the online drm will be for the digital download stuff. Unless they were just the smoothest talking people ever and fooled us all, the disk based games will work just as they have in the past. The drm is that the disk must be in the drive for the game to play. You lent the game, sell the game, etc.. you wont have the disk and won’t be able to play. For digital stuff it obviously will need different drm as there is no disk and for that I expect their policies to be very similar to MS.

          • TonyLN

            That could be true… I just don’t trust Sony and think they are being sneaky. They patented a technology about a year and a half ago where a disk could be linked to an individual gamer.
            They could do the same thing as MS except also require the disk in the drive… It would just be up to the publishers if they wanted to require that… And all your major publishers (EA, Activision, Ubisoft,etc…) would jump on board.

          • ReadTheArticlePlz

            They could I suppose but they have had additional interviews where they have re-iterated that for disk based games there will be absolutely no drm with regards to the offline portion of the game other than the disk has to be in the drive. For online the publishers have the option of requiring a code/season pass/etc. This doesn’t bother me as it is exactly as it is today on both the 360 and ps3. This allows us to still rent games, lend them to friends, sell them, and buy used. May we have to pay a fee for online with a used game? Absolutely, but that is how it is now. There is no daily check-in and there is no online required for installation. If they were to come out and allow drm like MS for offline play Sony would take a massive hit in popularity and sales and unlike MS they seem to understand that fact. Additionally, they understand that motion control is nice but not essential. The move is an option on their system and not required. I will have the option to buy it and only plug it in when I play a move based game (if I were to buy a ps4). This is an option I have with my curent 360 and kinect but would not have if I bought an X1.

    • TonyLN

      Just had a thought, something they could do for the “checking-in” that would help people without the net”, is lock a game to a console; doesn’t need to go online, doesn’t need to have a disk in the drive; but it can’t be used anywhere else until you unlock it from the console. That would actually solve a lot of problems.

      • ReadTheArticlePlz

        Not really as you would still need to have some way for it to check and make sure that game was only on that console. Otherwise what would stop people from having offline xboxes where they lock it to one console then go to another and lock it to that one. The disks are read only so without connecting to some central server there is no way for xbox to know what one xbox it is locked to. Requiring the disk in the drive is really the best way to do what you are saying.

        • TonyLN

          They already said their would be a code in every box (guessing you can just show it to the Kinect) to activate the game and lock it to your account. Once it is locked to your account you could select an option to ‘lock’ it to your console.

          You would still need the internet, but only for activation and locking/unlocking the game. No need to worry about the internet going down or bandwidth restrictions. It would work and wouldn’t be that hard to add in at this point. Not sure if they would do it though.

          • ReadTheArticlePlz

            Understood, I based my response on your post saying that it was an option for people without internet. This would still require internet, even if it was just once.

          • TonyLN

            Everyone (well 99.9%) has some sort of internet that they can hookup the One to for a small authorization download. Anyway, MS hasn’t said anything about doing something like this; so we probably wont see anything like this.

  • Nick Peck

    I just pre ordered two XBO’s. Any of these “policies” that people are crying about affect me in no way shape or form and I absolutely love what I saw at E3. Titanfall (among everything else they had) can’t come out soon enough!! Can’t wait to play it.

    Just for the heck of it since it is a whole “$100″ more, just throw a few games in for the cry babies :D My Xbox 360 has been plugged into the internet for exactly 2,920 days (about 8 years) so I have no issues (and never have). I’m sure things will change a bit down the road. Oh, and the ps4 is fugly, but looks like it will be a good system as everyone knew they both would be.

    It’s about playing games, just enjoy it no matter what system you are on.

    • Derrick Hoard

      Well then it will work for you, but some of us have had internet problems as well as monetary problems. It would be nice to know I could give up my internet and use my colleges and still be able to play a game on break every now and then. Even borrow a game from a friend since I cant buy it.

      • TheHitman1982

        No Offence, but if money is that tight that you cant afford things you need, a new video game console should be the last thing you worry about.

        • Derrick Hoard

          I dont need an internet connection, but id sacrifice that for a gaming console. You rich types. Just because I have to budget or give up somethings doesnt mean I shouldnt enjoy entertainment. I have a B.A and I am working on two masters so it may not be luxurious but at least I could play a game or two on the weekends. You cant even spell offense right. We are on two different planes man.

    • ReadTheArticlePlz

      “It’s about playing games, just enjoy it no matter what system you are on.”

      Thats the truth. we all have different opinions and reasons for liking what we like. I wish you the best with your new xbox’s. I really wanted one but disagree with too much of it and thus will not be buying one. I don’t however wish you any ill will for wanting it yourself.

    • tigertomspill

      I agree you like halo, gears, and some of the new franchises like Titianfall you will buy an xbox, if you are a loyal fan of xbox.. for me I love he controller and the whole eco system

      • Nick Peck

        Exactly, I tend to get annoyed with morons very fast as I’m sure many can tell. I hate that people don’t fully think things through and just rip off stupid garbage because they don’t bother to LEARN everything first.

        Great if people want the ps4, get it and have fun as that is the entire point of playing video games in the first place. MS always comes out on top with softare and the OS is fantastic in everything that we know it can do so far. The instant switching between games and the like is something I will use A LOT.

        I just finished my Windows Ecosystem and got my new Lumia 928 with a Surface Pro and use it with my 360 all the time. Obviously it will be used a lot with my XBO as well. I watch as much tv as I can stand it and play as many games as I can when I have the time so everything the system offers is for me.

        I love how integrated everything is with Smartglass, such a cool feature to have available. I’m always all for having options, even if I don’t plan on using them.

    • safdf

      I thought you were smart, but apparently you are the kind of people who like to be protected from themselves, Big Obama will be watching you, you’ll be safe now.
      “It’s about playing games” The problem is you´ll have little, all you have is TV. I rather go and buy a Sega Pluto after selling my house to get the money for it, at least I can still play it even though it could be connected to the net.

      • TheHitman1982

        XB1 has just as many if not more great games as the PS4, go troll a sony page fanboy.

        • safdf

          “No Offence, but if money is that tight that you cant afford things you need, a new video game console should be the last thing you worry about.”
          “XB1 has just as many if not more great games as the PS4, go troll a sony page fanboy.”
          And I’m the fanboy.
          FYBBBBBBI, I own an original XBOX, and I love my 360. But I’m the one who owns them, they don’t own me.

          • TheHitman1982

            Sure ya do. Ive been reading Sony Fanboy bullsh|t for the last 3 days. I can spot them from a mile away. If wanna go blow sony, do it on a ps4 page.

          • safdf

            I’m not even planning to buy a PS4 yet, my first option is always been a Wii U and you can look it at my older comments.
            Oh yes, you can spot fanboys.

          • TheHitman1982

            Wii U?? wow your even dumber than i thought.

          • BigBernard

            *”you’re”

          • safdf

            And I’m the dumb one and the fanboy……

      • Nick Peck

        Lol ok. For one I don’t support “give away more of my money to the lazy people” Obama and two, what games that WERENT indie games did sony show? They haven’t shown ONE game that I actually want to spend money on. Most of what MS showed I want and want it now.

        I’m not saying the ps4 sucks or anything and I never have, I’m just not interested in their exclusives much. I have played and beat all the god of wars and uncharted games and found both part 3’s as good games, but not worth what I paid for them.

        Everything I own is plugged into the internet constantly so again, I don’t care about this as I have been “connected” forever with all of my devices. Doesn’t bother me one bit. MS killed sony with games at E3, hands down and I loved what I saw.

        Who are you to tell me what I can spend my money on lol? I know what I have FUN playing and I will buy it. PS4 has nothing that I want, at all, but that doesn’t mean that one day I might get one because of a few games I feel I must play. I have owned two ps3’s but have sold them both because once I finished the few games I wanted to play, they just collected dust.

        Did you also notice there was no online checking for DISC games?? What about digital download games?? Funny how they didn’t say that. But they don’t own you? Why do you now have to have psn+ to play ps4 games online? They are chipping away at you fans, but guess what? If you prefer it and enjoy it? Great, why come here and be a moron everyone can’t stand?

        • safdf

          Well, if it’s OK for you what the XBO offers and its “features”, then its OK with me, I won’t go MS on you by telling what’s best for you and what you must do………
          Just don’t cry if they take you to Guantanamo.

          • Nick Peck

            “They” won’t take me anywhere as it’s my choice to buy what I want. MS isn’t forcing anything on me as it’s all my choice to buy it. I have never complained about anything MS has done (or sony for that matter) that has angered me.

            Of course both companies don’t always make the best choices but that goes for EVERY person / company in the world. I would NEVER go to Guantanamo anyways, not even for candy and puppies!

          • TheHitman1982

            Take you to Guantanamo ? LOL wow dude you really are paranoid.

    • Boss Saucier

      I like Xbox One’s lineup more than PS4’s all well. X1 also has the connectivity features I want such as Skype and all my friends are on Xbox. I am preordering my Xbox One today.

      • Nick Peck

        Nice. Also there is a new article for the ps4 “E3 2013: PS4 Used Game Restrictions ‘Up to Publishers'” lol. I knew they would have to have it as well. But of course to the sony fans, it’s OK that sony is doing it, just not ms…. /sigh.

  • Telltales

    The only way Microsoft will compete with the PS4 is if they match the price of the more powerful Sony console and drop the exceptionally idiotic always on, trading, and DRM policies. This is a console, not a pc. god, how can Microsoft be so stupid

    • TheHitman1982

      You do realize that a console is just a custom built PC.

      • safdf

        Do you realize the XBOX family are some of the few that really are custom built PC? You can’t build a PS2, a PS4 or any of the Nintendo systems with PC parts you could buy at a store.

        • TheHitman1982

          Every game console is a custom built PC, No you cant buy the parts in a store, that dosnt mean it isint a custom built PC

  • Mario Perez

    MS drop the DRM policy. You will lose millions of people.

    • safdf

      They will lose millions of people, they CAN’T drop the DRM, is not policy, it’s a feature.
      Stop telling them you owe them and they own you.

    • http://soundcloud.com/ViRUSfromMARS Jaffa Cake King

      Apparently they don’t care to hear what we think.

  • ryder4life22187

    so on a side note what happened to the so called sunny day sale that was supposed to start today.

    • safdf

      The infinite power of the cloud, it made it a rainy day.

  • TheMichaelT

    XBOX……….purchased……Halo alone worth purchase
    XBOX360….purchased……xbox live…..evolving GUI….gears….damn worth purchase
    XBOXONE…I’m gone unless MS gets rid of PRISM, DRM, always online, KINECT/HAL always on
    Hello PS4

    • safdf

      Then skip the ONE and buy the next after, IF MS is still in business.
      For me is also “hello PS4″, now it made it on my list for the next gen.

      • TheHitman1982

        Hello PS4 huh ? This coming from the same guy that said “I’m not even planning to buy a PS4 yet” an hour ago.

  • TheHitman1982

    What I don’t understand is people are complaining about, Used game restrictions, trading games, ect. But yet Steam and Origin for the PC are widely successful and no one complains about them ? Guess what you cant buy used games/trade games/barrow games from them and no one complains.

    • BigBernard

      Have you not noticed the much lower prices during the regular Steam sales?

      • TheHitman1982

        That’s a Sale, who says Microsoft cant do the same thing?

        • http://soundcloud.com/ViRUSfromMARS Jaffa Cake King

          Past Xbox sales say so.

          • TheHitman1982

            This is a new system, things can change.

          • safdf

            They can change, but change is not always good. The US voted for a change and now the world is got Big Obama and his ever watching kin…. eyes and ears.

          • TheHitman1982

            Are you scared obama is watching you ?

          • safdf

            Aren’t you? You must really trust that guy. Being African-American doesn’t make him infinitely good, you know.
            Trust no one.

          • TheHitman1982

            Dude if Obama, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, wants to listen to me pwn noobs or watch me smoke cigarettes and play COD with no pants on, more power to them. There is nothing you can do to change government ways, they are going to do it no matter what. You can kick and scream and b|tch and moan all you want, just live your life. Don’t live in fear. I don’t trust any government. But I don’t fear them either.

          • safdf

            “There is nothing you can do to change government ways, they are going to do it no matter what.”
            This from the same person that says he doesn’t fear them.
            Those who don’t fear them are the ones who make the changes, have you heard of Lech Walesa?

          • TheHitman1982

            Yeah, Your not going to change the government, So why worry about it ? And yes I dont fear them. Like i said, if they really wanna watch me, go ahead, wont be very exciting. BTW, they have been watching and listening to you for a long time.

          • arrow22

            Dude. PRISM was started in 2007. Obama took office in 2009.

        • BigBernard

          Have you seen the prices for old Games On Demand?

    • Angry Consumer

      Nobody liked Steam when it first launched, Valve earned the respect because they have stated that they will allow you to download all your games in case they die or something goes wrong, you can be in offline mode for Steam for ever, and they have amazing sales that Xbox live couldn’t even dream about.

  • DarthBurrito

    I’ve already preordered my X1 and pretty excited about it. I’m
    happy that I can purchase digital games on day one of release, this is
    something I’m all for. I won’t purchase all games digital, only the ones I
    intend on keeping long term. Of course, I don’t like the fact that I won’t be
    able to play a single player game if my console doesn’t check in. I think that’s
    idiotic. Same goes for the DRM “feature.” The one time transfer of a game is also
    a bad move, but of course this is left up to the publisher.

    I know were a long way off, but what happens to the games
    when the next-next-console releases? When MS stops supporting the X1 and then
    all the games that have the check in are dead? This is an issue for me. Unless,
    with the next-next-console, all those games can be transferred to it since X1 is
    an x86 architecture and hope that any future consoles are also x86 systems and
    easily backward comp.

    • Xboner2013

      “I won’t purchase all games digital, only the ones I intend on keeping long term.”

      Huh? You mean until MS turns off the service?

      UPDATE: Sorry I see the rest of your post. Yes, a big problem.

      “but what happens to the games when the next-next-console releases”

      This is it, last traditional consoles at least on this level. The lines will be blurred significantly.

      • safdf

        I’d be OK with it too, after all, even with my 360, if it breaks and the servers are out, I won’t have my games back and I’m pretty aware of that. What I just can’t stand is the always connected (once every 24 hrs is still always connected) and that darn Big Obama watching eye.
        I’ve scratched XBOne from my list for the next gen for ever since Friday.

        • arrow22

          Interesting how Obama is responsible for a program that was started two years before he took office

    • E.Nich

      Dude, all the games in X1 ARE digital. The retail copy is just an instalator so you don’t have to download it.

      • DarthBurrito

        Sorry, I know they are all digital since it installs to the HD. I meant trading in games I don’t intend to keep long term. I would still need the physical disc to trade/give to the store so they can deactivate it from my account. For example, BF4, I’m definitely buying that from MS Marketplace. However, if I buy a game like Sunset, then I’ll buy the physical so I can trade/give it later on.

        • E.Nich

          Hmmm, I understand what you said, but it really has no sense. I’m sure you will be able to trade/give the game even if you don’t own the physical disc (after all, the only thing that matters will be the digital version).

  • BostonSup

    The main problem with the Xbox one isn’t that it is “internet extensive” as I keep reading from a few posters, but rather it is much too limiting for a high price.

    -Kinect should not be forced on and could have kept the systems even in price.
    -Borrowing games between friends should be allowed (not 1 time after 30 days).
    -24 hour check should not be needed for single player use (incase of a MS server outage or home internet outage)
    -Selling old games should not need MS’s “permission”.
    -Kinect should not be forced installed, it is an add on and didn’t pick up steam because people didn’t like it. MS cannot force people to like and use their add ons.

    So the problem isn’t that one system is better than another, it is that MS execs failed miserably with their strategy and Sony took advantage of it. I have never seen such an horrible business strategy in a long time. MS forgot customers and thought that they can force money out of people.

    Xbox360 was going down hill due to MS’s turn for greed but people kept with it because that is what they had. MS failed to realize that it wasn’t because people were loyal that they kept making money, it was because it was the end of the generation and people weren’t going to switch until the new systems came out.

    • dibils

      -Selling old games should not need MS’s “permission”.

      it doesnt, it needs publishers permission

      • BostonSup

        My wording was wrong on that, but the general criticism is still there.

        • safdf

          MS is going to be a publisher, isn’t it? Then you will need MS permission on MS published games, so your “wording” was correct.

          • arrow22

            Except MS already confirmed that all MS published games will be resell able without any fee.

          • safdf

            So the XBOne will not only penalize you for selling used, is going to penalize companies for being third parties, nice move MS, Sega struggled for ten years to deal with not having 3rd parties and it wasn’t even their fault.
            They won’t charge a fee, but you still have to ask for permission. That is still not good.

          • TonyLN

            No, the publishers don’t have to pay a fee either. The publishers have the option to charge a fee when a game is relicensed to a new users (i.e. sold used). So GameStop sells a game used, then GameStop may have to pay the publisher of the game 10% or something like that. Seems fair to me.

        • dibils

          sony just confirmed it will be the same on PS4

      • Superman64

        And that is only possible thanks to Microsoft setting up the ability for them to do that. So Microsoft shares blame.

        • TonyLN

          Sony didn’t say the publishers of their games couldn’t do the same thing, just that Sony wasn’t going to do it. Sony could still do the exact same thing; except lay the blame on the publishers.
          If that is the case, Sony is losing a lot of face with the publishers right now (and even more so when they break the news) and we could see some publishers pulling content or DLC from Sony and handing it to MS to put them in their place.

  • Socal71

    Was this a job interview?

    • safdf

      LOL.
      I don’t think so, Twitch is going to he*l along with MS. An unknown online service with the most hated system ever, that’s a winner combination.

      • TheHitman1982

        Unknown ??? HAHAHA Dude you obviously dont know sh|t about the future of gaming. Ever heard of WCS or MLG ? What about pro gamers or game streams ? Twitch is #1 for online game streams.

      • beardyman3218

        Unknown? twitch is the biggest game streaming website there is.

  • TheHitman1982

    BTW, Just stopped at GameStop, XB1 preorders are sold out, still have a bunch of PS4s. Just sayin.

    • Telltales

      Oh yeah, that’s totally believable. Thanks for sharing

      • TheHitman1982

        I work right beside a gamestop, why would I lie ? I was actually shocked to hear it.

      • Boss Saucier

        Don’t believe him. Go ask yourself.

    • ryder4life22187

      they were all sold out of XB1 near me at gamestop had a guy come in to try to preorder one. He said the guy in front of him got the last one and called a handful of locations in our store and they were sold out of the XB1.

    • BostonSup

      Xbox One will sell a lot, just as the PS3 sold a lot… the only thing is Xbox One will not sell as many as the PS4 and will be making MUCH less money than they would have if they didn’t have such horrible execs making decisions.

      • TonyLN

        It all depends on the games. If Sony can’t get any killer 3rd party exclusives it could be the One that is selling more. Also depends on whether they can make their multiplayer worth paying for.

    • safdf

      Sales are always unbelievable at the start, what counts is later. when you see how many games are being sold, how many are returned (although in the case of XBOne that’s quite a pain) and how many are left unsold.
      When the Virtual Boy came out in Japan, people went for groceries at their Lawson Stores and came out with a VB and they had record sales that way. A year later, they were collecting dust at the stores and no new games were produced.

    • Dennis Crosby

      I hear people dont think the X1 is gonna sell from the E3 show Microsoft is trying to show the core gamer that their still in the fight.sony didn’t show off any gameplay from there exclusive titles. Only Indy games and cross platforms

      • TheHitman1982

        Yeah one weird thing about the sony conference last night, i dont think i heard them say 1 game was exclusive, that they announced. All were, “Coming first” or heres a exclusive DL.

        • TonyLN

          I think they had a couple that were made in house. But yeah — no exclusives that were like “I’ve got to have that game”.

    • Boss Saucier

      I just preordered my XB1 at EB Games and I got the last one! Sure, they were only allowed 6, but still… sold out is sold out; and all in the first hour!

  • Volitar Prime

    The PS3 actually did OK, eventually. MS is going to follow the fate of Sega and the Saturn (and to some extent the DreamCast).

  • beardyman3218

    I still havent made a decision yet,im gonna go were the games i like are and i thought xbox e3 exclusives were better than sony’s.

    • DarthBurrito

      Not because I’m an Xbox fan, but Xbox does have better exclusives. Just to be fair, I did buy a PS3 because of their exclusives. However, the PS4 presentation displayed too many arcade-like games and none exclusives, unless I missed it.

      • TonyLN

        Agreed – I have already pre-ordered both consoles, but it doesn’t look like there is anything at launch that I will pick up for the PS4.
        Also, I’ll be doing all my multiplayer on the One for the first little bit. PS needs to prove to me that spending money on PS+ for Multiplayer is worth it.

    • TheOne

      I would have to completely agree with you beadyman, I am just changing because of the DRM issue. I dotn like a machine that requires me to be online to “check” if I owned a license for a product I picked up a cd for…

  • TheHitman1982

    Whats your problem with the XB1 ?

    • Scarab83

      Why would I spend $100 more on a product that has a ton more restrictions on it? There’s literally no benefit to it over a PC or PS4.

      • TheHitman1982

        What “restrictions” would that be ?

        • Scarab83

          - Mandatory Online Check AT LEAST every 24 hours.
          – Lending/Borrowing games.
          – Used games.
          – Mandatory Kinect with a creepy camera/mic mining info.

          Now, I’ll admit that some of those don’t necessarily affect me, but they’re still unnecessary restrictions that will affect A LOT of other people.

          • Nick Peck

            New sony story: E3 2013: PS4 Used Game Restrictions ‘Up to Publishers’, exactly the same as MS :D So scratch that one off.

            Online… as I stated before, my 360’s have been plugged in since the day I bought them so I don’t see what the issue is unless you manually unplug every device you have daily.

            The camera has a lot of options you can set if you bothered to read about it so really, there is nothing to worry about. Hell, there was NEVER anything to worry about until you tinfoil hat wearing goofs decided to blow it out of proportion.

            Hell, I haven’t lent a video game out since the N64 came out, if you want a game go buy it yourself lol.

          • TonyLN

            And you can easily loan games within a close-knit group of friends (10) .

          • TheHitman1982

            Online check – Dosnt everyone play online anyways ?
            Lendng Games – Oh well, you cant lend steam/origin games either
            Used games – Same policy as PS4 as recently announced, DRM up to publishers
            Kinect – Can be shut off and camera or voice features disabled in settings.

      • Nick Peck

        a ton huh? Which ones? Oh there’s this too: E3 2013: PS4 Used Game Restrictions ‘Up to Publishers’. And you have to have PSN+ to play online… seems like you have less than you did with the ps3 so far…..

    • TheHitman1982

      lol, i love sony fanboys, I ask a simple question and it gets downvoted

      • TheHitman1982

        see

    • dragonflyr

      it is the iOS of the console gaming world. no options.

  • CrunkE4

    Microsoft it’s easy denounce that stupid used game rule and keep it like last time. Denounce that constantly logging in. You also have a cheaper xbox when you come out with a version that doesn’t have the kinect. EVERYONE PLEASE COPY AND PASTE.

  • jeffyg3

    Yeah I agree. Always online/DRM & $100 more. Hasn’t Microsoft learned from last gen what happened to the PS3 when it sold $100(+) more than the Xbox 360. And they didn’t have the restrictions that is putting off millions of console gamers of the Xbox One.

    Seriously Microsoft, drop the price. Remove the restrictions. There’s still time to redeem yourself before it’s too late when the PS4 hits.

    • TheHitman1982

      Always Online – Do you have internet at your house ? If so do you have a 360/PS3 ? Do you have it plugged into your internet ? When your done do you unplug it from your internet ?

      DRM – Every game you have played since the ps2 has had DRM. Copy Protection. If you bought the disk shouldn’t you be able to make a backup of it ? Shouldn’t you be able to change parts of the game if you want ?

      • karma32

        And with PS2, PS3, Xbox, & Xbox 360 I could still easily let my friends borrow the game, keep the game, sell, and he in turn could do the same if I let him have it. I could also bring my 360 to college parties, beach house, and such where interent isn’t an easy access and play for a few days. Xbox One is not an option for that anymore. And my internet has been down for a few days before, that time I wouldn’t be able to play the games I bought. NO THANK YOU XBOX ONE. Copy protection is nice, but this 24hr check restriction is stupid for consoles.

        • TheHitman1982

          Can you lend a game on Steam or Origin ? Oh BTW, PS4 has the same Used gamed policy as XB1, up to publishers to decided used game DRM/Restrictions

    • Nick Peck

      E3 2013: PS4 Used Game Restrictions ‘Up to Publishers’… discuss.

  • Holesome

    Twitch support baked in is an excellent feature. Thanks.

    Will the X1 allow recording 30min or an hour session with voice and maybe a picture in picture of the player using the Kinect camera? Also, will it allow sharing to Youtube? These few features would allow my son would use this for his Youtube channel. Right now he’s using his laptop and my other son uses an HD Hauppauge.

  • karma32

    You’re losing fans left and right. Good lord MS – are those restrictions really worth the loss of fans and respect from the gaming community?
    Why are you continuing on with this when you it’s doing nothing but bad?
    You’ve lost so many already? It’s not worth it MS.
    Stop it already. You guys are just embarrassing yourselves.

  • TheHitman1982

    Sony PS4 – Used game DRM/Reactions up to publishers.
    Hmm. Guess Sony fanboys can take that chip off the table.

    • karma32

      Sony doesn’t place any restrictions on sales of used games.

      • TheHitman1982

        Was just released, PS4 Used game restrictions “up to publishers”, try and keep up

        • karma32

          “Publishers of PS4 games, then, can do what’s already done on existing PlayStation software: Limit or lock content behind online passes or redemption codes (or opt out of restrictions altogether), which differs from Microsoft’s limited licensing of Xbox One software.” – IGN

          Not the same kind of restrictions it seems

          • TheHitman1982

            Yeah the problem with that is it is the same as microsoft, They are trying to compare Sony’s DRM to the Xbox “10 family member” thing, not the used game issue.

          • Shawn Springer

            TWITCH Is on PS4.. Try to keep up son. Your losing. I loved xbox when it first came out. Clone wars, Tom Clancy titles, Rainbow six, online stuff, 20 gig hard drive. Then 360 had it where you could use a lot of xbox games on it, could easily adapt on over. This is just garbage. Change the policies will revive MS. I think they shot themselves in the foot. This is just dumb and redundant.

          • Willy Chris Hui

            Well, if they choose to do so, they could i.e. make it impossible to sell or lend games…

          • Telltales

            If the DRM doesn’t get Microsoft, it’ll be the price. Too bad Microsoft has both going against them. Microsoft just made one big deal breaker of a console

          • TheHitman1982

            Price will be the same soon.

    • Bobby B

      Basically the same rules as now aka Online Passes

      • TheHitman1982

        Yeah, same for XB1, Online pass or Licence transfer ? Nothing is mandatory, its up to the publishers, same for XB1 and PS4.

        • Bobby B

          I think you fail to understand the differences between the 2 but I’m not gonna argue with a troll. Cheers.

          • TheHitman1982

            There is no difference, Buy a used game from gamestop, PS4 – buy an online pass XB1 – buy a licence transfer. Whats the difference ? If your so knowledgeable

    • dragonflyr

      nope .. sorry, it is much less a threat. it is still the same model as the ps3. don’t even try to put it in the same catagory as the xbone model.

  • Willy Chris Hui

    May I ask one simple question? Why do people only look at the negative sides? 300.000 servers, Gold-sharing, Game-sharing, Cloud computing, DAT CONTROLLER, the potential of Kinect, Game-DVR and Twitch, and freakin’ awesome games!
    If you’re an online gamer anyway how is it a problem to connect to the internet for a few seconds every 24 hours? You CAN resell and buy used games, maybe not everywhere, but at least at all major retailers. Yes, you can’t lend games, but that’s where Game-sharing kicks in, I just hope it works with friends, too.

    • E.Nich

      The problem is that you can choose if you want to be online or not, even if you always have a good connection. Choices, my friend. And if you happen to have problems with your connection for whatever reason, you cease to have a console and it transforms into a Bluray player. And the Kinect… why force us to own that thing? I don’t want one, not even free (in case I had one, i would only connect it to play kinect games, definitely, not always).

      • Shawn Springer

        Wait til you move into a new house and have to wait 3-4 days before the cable guy come over. You cant do anything with it!

      • Willy Chris Hui

        Ok, so those people who do not have an internet connection for a limited time and do not possess a smartphone to share the internet are really screwed. But besides of that? 24h is a very long time, problems with the internet do not last that long, do they?
        You can still play offline, and only need a few seconds every 24h… And Kinect, even if you don’t like it at all, even if you see no reason for having one, why not just switch it off?

        • deane007

          And when the servers are shut down in years to come,you will not be able to play any of the games.Your collection of games will be a pile of junk.

  • TheOne

    After 10+ years on Xbox camp, somehow in the back of my head I was hoping sony would have similar policies with regards to games… But alas, ti was not so, and the bombshell dropped by Sony at E3 yesterday, fermented my decision to change camp. So long Microsoft, Hopefully, when this console war is over, you will fire all your management and come back to your senses.

    • Willy Chris Hui

      May I ask why?

    • TheHitman1982

      Sony has the same Used game Policy.

      • TheOne

        I think I watched the conference last night, unless I and the rest of the news sites, missed something, I heard sony Clearly say, (You dont need to check online, you can trade, sell and do wherever with your games, and you dont need to be online all the time) did I miss something?

        • Telltales

          It’s stupid. He keeps saying they have the same restrictions when they don’t. The restrictions Sony was referring to as things like Online passes which is already done on the Xbox 360 and PS3

          • TheHitman1982

            If im wrong, then explain to me the difference ?

          • Dylan

            Difference is Microsoft is system wide with its installation and DRM tactics.

            While on PS4 some publishers may push that, all other games on discs will work the way it is now. Simply because of NO FORCED INSTALLATION and no required authentication system wide.

            EVERY game on Xbox One has a form of used games blocking due to the online requirement.
            It removes choice from the developers who don’t want the DRM, it removes choice from the consumer that wants to skip the published game with drm.

            The PS4 gives us that choice to skip games that may require online. XBONE is system wide.

            The PS4 is the same as it is now. If Publishers wanted to authenticate their games, they could on the 360 and PS3.

        • Guerrero Ultimo

          Nope, Sony specifically said that. If you never have to go online to play your games (MS requires you to and the 24 hour check in) then how would they know if you traded it or gave it to a friend?

        • TheHitman1982

          There is no difference in Online pass or what XB1 is doing, quit trying to rationalize it. Last night the CEO said NO DRM, today he changes his tune. If the publisher wants to he can charge you extra for a used game, both consoles. Period

          • TheOne

            Was that something that was said today? I have not ready anything like that on IGN

          • TheHitman1982

            The article is on IGN, posted about an hour ago

          • TheOne

            I am going to go look for it. If its true, I will revert course, (With such a large Xbox 360 game collection, I would hate having to trade that)

          • TheHitman1982

            i cant link the article but its titled ”
            PS4 Used Game Restrictions ‘Up to Publishers’

          • Bobby B

            If you’re reading articles, read
            Did Sony confirm DRM on PS4 after all? Not quite! on Destructoid. It explains the situation far better than IGN ever could.

          • Shawn Springer

            Keep it til it breaks then trade in. I wont be getting an xbox one.

          • Telltales

            U honestly think there’s no difference? For one, I can buy a used copy of Far Cry 3 on the Xbox 360 and still play it offline. And I can take it to the boring conferences I attend and some of the hotel rooms make me pay for online. Nope not gunna do that. Oh well, I can still play that offline. It’s only if I want to play an online game those passes will be an issue. Xbox One is different. It’s a restriction for ALL games. Where online passes are used on certain ones. And now with Xbox One we have all these rules on these restrictions.
            Not the same dude, get over it.

          • TheHitman1982

            People who play games offline and never connect to the internet and in the extreme minority. Besides, does the article state that its for online games only? Just because the console does not require you to connect the the network doesn’t mean the publisher wont.

          • Telltales

            You’re completely clueless. You’re discounting the tens of millions of single player only games that get sold every year. And there are many who don’t game online. Plus the online passes are only for a handful of them. Most games don’t opt for online passes.

        • dragonflyr

          It’s still just like the PS3. Sony mentioned today that, just like eps3, 3rd party publishers could impose drm if they like. They don’t/wont’ because it was a trainwreck when they did in the past. Seriously .. this is MUCH, much less of a threat than the xbone model.

  • Barry Case

    Been an Xbox user for 10+ years and love my 360 but am feeling really cheated by Xbox One…Don’t want to be forced into getting (and paying for) a Kinect…Don’t want restrictions on used games (What about rentals??). Hoping they will change strategy when the the amount of pre-orders bomb…It’s not too late, otherwise i’m off to PS4 :(

    • E.Nich

      They won’t change strategy. Just go with the DRM you prefer, I think that SONY’s better in that aspect (and in the others as well). Btw I won’t buy a new console in 3 or 4 years, so…

  • dan dubya

    Microsoft as you are a multi-billion dollar, global company, you should not really need to hear advice fom 30+ yr old gamers like me. I should not have to tell you how to save your next product from almost certain oblivion. But after hearing what you are going to do, and then hearing what your main competitor is going to do. I think that you need to start listening and taking notice. Not just of me, but of pretty much everyone that has something sensible to say….

    I have been a live paying member since 04. (although I sold my first GT) I have pre-ordered an xbox one, but things can change.. Anyway listen up.

    1, You may have tripled your install base this gen, but you cannot go toe-to-toe with sony with a console that is 100 more expensive!! FFS even sony coming off of the back of two 100m plus selling consoles faltered with a riduclous price tag….. And you aint sony. Drop the price!

    2, DRM. Rethink your policies, and then go back to on-line passes.

    3, Mandatory installs. Change it! Yes let the disc be installed to the HDD, then make people leave it in the tray. Simple

    4, Always on-line. Ok for games in development you have no choice. For games in the future that will need it, then you must advertise the fact on the box. But you must rethink this policy.

    There are the four biggest sticking points that are aginst you.

    You have 5 months to make the xbox one a real rival next gen. Continue the way you are going, and sony will wipe the floor with you…

 
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