June 19th 2013 1:54 pm PT

Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

Don Mattrick, President of the Interactive Entertainment Business at Microsoft, has made a blog post with an update on Xbox One.

Here is an excerpt from his post:

…today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

· An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

· Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

I encourage you to read the entire post for additional details and how Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console — there will be no regional restrictions.

Thank you for your continued support of Xbox.

Update: Here is the full text of the post:

 

Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.
For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future. 
Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One. 
You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.
So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

  • An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
  • Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console — there will be no regional restrictions.

These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.

Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.

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Xbox One By Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson

  • Brandon Higa

    So far, dead rising 3 is the only thing about the x1 that tickles my whistle. If they’d release it on ps4, then Id say sayonara the x1.

    • Xboner2013

      I thought TitanFall looked interesting, and that is only a console timed exclusive, if my XBL gold account for the Xbox 360 is still good by then, I might rent it. DR3 looked okay, that would probably be bargain bin one for me on that.

    • Nun Ja

      What I hear, “Look at all these great games you can’t play because we want to impose invasive and disabling features on you.”

  • Xboner2013

    And why do you think MS would not give details?

    “who don’t understand things”

    I think most people understand exactly what is going on.

  • Fitzgerald

    interesting article.. but if the point of DLC was to make people hold onto games, they should just make the DLC free… I think then people would be more enticed to hold onto games. In reality I think DLC is just a way to charge more for a game… instead of just packaging everything in the game and selling it for $60, they package 75% of the content up, sell it, and then DLC the rest. I guess I would rather they do that instead of raising the prices on games.. as at least then I have the choice to buy more or not.. of course if I rulled the world I would just say put everything out there and change $50 ;-)

    • Shane Nokes

      I wouldn’t say that about DLC at all. DLC can really just be fun stuff that they decide to add as separate content.

      The DLC for Fable II runs along those lines. Knothole Island, and See The Future are their own fun side games that really have nothing to do with the story at all.

      They were created to make something else that would be fun for the gamer.

    • Jeremy Trifilo

      Hmm, I think a renting service would have been better.

      1 Day – $1.99 – No Save , No Achievements. (3%)
      7 Day – $6.99 – No Save , No Achievements. (11%)
      1 Month – $12.99 – No Save , No Achievements. (21%)
      3 Month – $24.99 – No Save , No Achievements. (41%)
      6 Months – $34.99 (58%)
      12 Months – $49.99 (83%)
      Unlimited – $59.99 (100%).

      There are many companies that provide renting of used games and it must be a thriving business. Imagine renting digital and never having to visit a store.

      Time starts once the download is complete, since this requires internet to download. If people choose to go offline it isn’t a major issue and when they finally sign back in it will check if they still own the license to play that game and if not they can not play online with that game.

    • Nun Ja

      That’s called a Gamepass (EA) some of the DLC is free (for those who buy the game new) though some of the DLC does cost money.

  • Nun Ja

    They changed it because we understand it too well, the bad far outweighs the good. M$ wants a oligopoly/monopoly on the used games market. M$ wants to move towards renting licenses, rather than letting us own a license.

    M$ can change it back, but they lost too many of their customers for having those policies in the first place.

    Of course, M$ can make it so that customers had a choice between Digital (DRM/24 hour authentication) and Physical (Disk authentication).

    • Shane Nokes

      A license is something you can never own, by definition.

      • Fitzgerald

        %s/license/title/G
        But in software terms license are more commonly used, and you can get many types of licenses like monthly, floating, single user, perpetual, etc…

        • Xboner2013

          Currently, they are selling a product, then in most cases putting an agreement on top of how you can use it. Most of this has never been fully adjunicated and actually Valve is getting sued in Europe right now on this issue. Most companies view license as a type of ownership (nor over the actually 0s and 1s but of it’s use), but you can get different companies that will claim different things.

          To me, if you can’t reasonably transfer, use, and/or backup, then it’s a rental. The problem is software companies, in general don’t want to pick a stance as then they are sitting ducks.

          I am actually hoping Countries, States and Territories start regulating this type of commerce within it’s jurisdiction so that there are no questions.

          • Nun Ja

            Exactly, at this point, I wouldn’t mind going toward an all-digital future. That is if it goes in favor of consumers.

          • Xboner2013

            All digital has never been the problem, the companies I have worked for in the past, nothing is in physical form… for well over a decade or much longer.

            Control or lack of control is the problem in the gaming industry, I have no idea why they think they are so different.

            Also, remember all agreements are not enforceable, and a piece of paper in a box is not an agreement, there must be meet of minds in most jurisdiction (but depends).

            To me, most of these products should have to be marketed as a rental or rent equivalent.

          • Nun Ja

            All digital + oligopoly

          • Xboner2013

            I agree nun ja
            The closed market in this situation could be very bad.

          • Nun Ja

            That’s why steams prices are so competitive (because they have competition)

          • Fitzgerald

            I’m glad to see there are a few people who *get it*

      • Nun Ja

        Keep your syntax to yourself. Mandatory All-Digital-Media will open the path to periodical rental payments as apposed to one lump sum.

  • Nun Ja

    The problem with BC is that programs made (compiled) for a certain hardware need that hardware to run or requires extra overhead in hardware (like the 60GB PS3) or software (xbox 360)… both of which cost more money to implement and don’t have a sustainable return.

  • avi

    edge’s coverage of microsoft has been so biased lately. i have read their articles and reviews because of their informed, non-one-sided approach, but I will visit them no longer.

  • Timothy Hames

    The Escapist has a video series called The Jimquisition, Today’s is titled “Why PC Gaming Gets Away With It” it is about why DRM works for PC and is not fought against. It is a good listen too (it does have some language fair warning)

    • Nun Ja

      I’ll listen to this later, but I believe everything he’s going to say is obvious.

      • Nun Ja

        It was obvious, in fact even he said it was obvious several times.

  • bpool23

    I dont agree with this article. Even if used games didn’t exist we will still get dlc.

  • Rick

    “They just needed to explain to the mass major who don’t understand things. I think this just put a lot of features and advancements of the Xbox One and maybe the whole gaming industry on hold.”

    – They really need to explain things to you since you don’t know what your talking about..

  • Metalization

    I’ve often wondered why no one has implement a digital rental system on one
    a consoles. Download and play for a specified period of time. The
    rental fees could go directly to the developers instead of a third
    party. It would be a cheap, cost effective and convenient way to rent games. Not to mention a great way to differentiate a console. This model would inevitably lead to greater sales and distribution of the game.

    • Rick

      Because of company’s like AT&T / Verizon / (local provider’s) are not willing to remove the data limiters on their service they sell. My limit with my last provider was 25g’s … moved to at&t and it’s unlimited for an extra “fee” yet the package right below mine is some where around 50g’s.

      *hence why everyone wants Google Fiber!

      • Metalization

        As Google Fiber and other companies provide better internet service then it should no longer be an issue. It’ll force all of those other companies with the data restrictions to rethink their cap limits and increase them, if they want to retain their customers. At least that’s my hope, then there would be one less barrier to digital rentals.

        • Rick

          But it isn’t going to happen in the next 5 years. Other wise you have a good idea for Rental’s.

          • Metalization

            I think it could be possible for it work the reverse way. If they implemented digital rentals, gamers would be more inclined to pressure internet providers to increase the cap limit. Where there is a market a company will provide the service. So if enough gamers adopted a digital rental market, service providers would pop up that support gamers heavy internet usage. It would be in their best interest because the service provider would gain and retain customers.

          • Shawn Springer

            Why increase data cap?? Like where you gonna go, 2-3 choices with the same limits. They will charge more and more and bleed you dry.

          • Metalization

            I should also note, my internet provider is shaw (I live in Canada) and their lowest limit is 125G per month. I have 200G – 250G package (I can’t remember which) so I have never gone over my Cap limit. I think there are already enough companies out there that could support that level of internet usage.

      • Nun Ja

        Kansas Cities!? :/

      • Jeremy Trifilo

        Since when does Verizon FIOS have a limit? The only article I could find with numbers said it has 77TB a month. I highly doubt you’ll ever use 1TB in a month.

        bgr com 2013/05/24/verizon-fios-unlimited-data-limit/

  • xbox rules

    If you have xbox live ur online drm is good… by the way Microsoft is a funny company they can change the policy any timeof the xbox one comes out. If Microsoft reads this you know when people buy the console they will be putting drm in place

  • Carnage Rules

    Bring back FAMILY SHARE!!!!!!

    • Malkill Basdain

      not sure why people would be against having family share.

      • Dylan

        As long as it is optional, like it should be, sounds good to me.

        • Malkill Basdain

          no arguments here. and ill take that instant game switching back while I’m at it. But the rest of the draconian DRM stuff they can keep to themselves

          • Dylan

            I’m sure it is still there for your digital games+ the game in disc tray.

  • Crypt0117

    Don and Marc please reverse the reversal. People will grow to appreciate the awesome piece of technology your making for us. Please.

  • xbox rules

    If you guys think used games are out of talks think again its not Microsoft its the developers talking about it

    • MotherNelson

      gah. shut up. no one cares about you. Dx go… live… in a ditch.

      • xbox rules

        Hey mother dev know what’s best I’m supporting it since it won’t bother me one bit I buy all new games anyway. As well say a cool commet such as stop living in ur mothers basement. Get a job. Besides flipping burgers. Or even make more then I do I make 100, 000 a year and I’m 28.

        • MotherNelson

          What translator are you FAILING to use correctly? Dx You’re making me lose my IQ just by knowing that you exist.

        • http://soundcloud.com/ViRUSfromMARS Jaffa Cake King

          Pretty bad grammar for someone who earns 100,000 per year.

  • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

    Well said CrossyX, well said.

  • xbox rules

    Also ps4 has a paid membership 50 a year no more free online for you play station ****.

  • xbox rules

    Dude again some features of drm are good ideas only if Microsoft explained it better.

    • RED360

      DRM is a restriction not feature.

      • xbox rules

        But the sharing games with ur family was part of the drm

        • MotherNelson

          I can still share with my family by giving them the disk or using MS’s new digital sharing feature that they SAID they’d implement in My son’s latest podcast. … you idiot. <– (for good measure)

        • RED360

          Ya, but they still could have done that with a more friendly form of DRM.

  • xbox rules

    People like mother nelson doesn’t understand the good of it and I’m pretty sure that developers will listen to reason sch as buying a used game they don’t get that money it goes to gamestop. Gamestop is hungry for your money.

    • MotherNelson

      your mo—I’m not even gonna go there. Dx i’m going to log off now… and pretend that you don’t exist…

      you just made small children cry. I hope you’re happy.

      Jerk.

      • xbox rules

        I’m happy because the policy isn’t set in stone.remember Microsoft aren’t telling us stuff and yet they are trying to work with bothsides of the party.

  • MotherNelson

    to Larry: I did NOT spend 90 hours in labor SCREAMING for someone to knock me over the head and “take it out” for you to force your stupid plaything (kinect) down my throat. This is why your father doesn’t call you.

    • 10 Year Vet

      lmao…maybe that’s why Larry is the way he is, he misses his daddy!

      • 360_Assassin

        i’m not even sure Larry is reading this blog anymore, or he would have told his boss that people are NOT happy with Mandatory Kinect an if MS really wanted to win next gen and kick sony’s butt, they would make Kinect an option and not another anti-consumer restriction for a lot of people.

        not everyone comes on here to complain, like I said when the whole DRM was going on so when launch comes and even after an x1 is still not doing as well as ps4, MS will know why. because they didn’t make Kinect optional. it’s the last thing people are asking for an they still refuse to listen to us.

  • Jeremy Trifilo

    Hmm, maybe they could add a license to the regular discs so achievements/game saves only work if you have a licensed copy that is linked to your console or your profile? This may not solve the dilemma, but would defiantly hurt those who abuse the used market for their own personal gains.

    • MotherNelson

      Keep your complicated ideas out of my gaming.

      • Jeremy Trifilo

        There is nothing complicated about it?

        Simply when you purchase a disc “new” it will come with a license to your console and profile. While offline you can obviously play just as you normally would where you have no access to the multiplayer and achievements are local until validated online. The license can also only be validated to one console and one profile.

        When signed online the achievements will simply check if you have that disc licensed to your profile or console. If you haven’t used the disc online yet then the achievements won’t be made available on your profile. Just as how it normally is on the Xbox 360.

        As soon as the disc is put into the console it will validate the license onto your gamertag and console just like digital content does in the background when you buy it.

        If you are someone who buys games “used” you will find regardless of being online or offline you will not get any achievements. As well any games you play on the multiplayer will not be saved to your profile. By “game saves” I didn’t mean the campaign, but I did mean like high-scores and any other multiplayer features. So it would be almost like you are playing the multiplayer on a guest profile so it is never saved to your physical profile.

        So if you buy a game “new” you can always play it with no limitations.

        The idea needs some work, but it doesn’t have any restrictions and it only puts a limitation on those that rent games just to complete the campaign + earn achievements and then those who buy “used” and resell to buy a new game “used” so they an play all games for free or with very little loss.

        Oo they can even make it so if your profile or console has a licensed copy of that game on it. Then you can get access to some special in-game content :)

        • Ryan Lanford

          what the hell is the point of restricting achievements just because the game is used? Thats the stupidest sh*t i’ve ever heard of.

  • robmc

    Here is your beloved SONY in action about the root kit. The same guys you lemmings tout as the gamers savior about no DRM… Quote “US senior VP Steve Heckler foreshadowed the events of late. Heckler told attendees at the Americas Conference on Information Systems “The industry will take whatever steps it needs to protect itself and protect its revenue streams… It will not lose that revenue stream, no matter what… Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this. We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source – we will block it at your cable company. We will block it at your phone company. We will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC… These strategies are being aggressively pursued because there is simply too much at stake.

    And you idiots believe SONY is your savior? Just google it dude, not very hard. And this affected 25 MILLION people.

    Additional Info….

    It creates security holes that can be exploited by malicious software such as worms or viruses.

    It constantly runs in the background and excessively consumes system resources, slowing down the user’s computer, regardless of whether there is a protected vehicle playing.

    It employs unsafe procedures to start and stop, which could lead to system crashes.

    It has no uninstaller, and is installed in such a way that inexpert attempts to uninstall it can lead to the operating system to fail to recognize existing drives.

    Soon after Russinovich’s first post, there were several trojans and worms exploiting XCP’s security holes. Some people even used the vulnerabilities to cheat in online games.

    What a company, surly to be trusted !

    In the meantime, let me know if you’d like to discuss what I said about supporting an immoral company like SONY. Oh how I’d love to hit on that!

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      TLDR as most of your drivel is nonsense and BS that doesn’t apply to the issue at hand that are of importance to me.. GAME OWNERSHIP..
      You are living in the past as well as living in denial. Sony to me atleast are the saviours of console gaming moron and you have them to thank for MS backpeddling on these issues!
      It’s a shame nearly everything you said holds no merit what so ever. Nice try kid, but MS still holds the crown of greediest and most Immoral corporation on this planet.
      Next you can try explaining to me how they aren’t after everything that has happened.
      Oh, how I’d love to hit on that son! :)

    • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

      The issues you mentioned are so grounded in technical mumbo jumbo and nonsense that I can’t even relate to, you really need to try harder. Half your statements are regarding Sony’s consumer electronics devision and not SCEA or SCEJ. In the end your post was as worthless as the time you spent typing it.

      When you are capable of explaining to me why MS was trying to screw the consumer with these anti consumer DRM measures that negate our ownership of physical disks you can try to get back to me again..

      I’d love to hit on that! :)

      • robmc

        The issues you mentioned are so grounded in technical mumbo jumbo and nonsense that I can’t even relate to, you really need to try harder

        Ok, I’ll make it simple for you.

        SONY screwed 25 million people with DRM that SCREWED their computers to the point of NOT WORKING.

        SONY said they REMOVED it but guess what? THEY HID IT.

        SONY then got sued by no less than 10 ATTORNEY GENERALS, and guess what they said?

        “Thousands of people are victims of this deceptive game Sony played with consumers for its own purposes.”
        You sir, deserve anything you get later from SONY
        At least MS told you up front. SONY just bent you over and then lied about it and got caught for… wait for it…… YOU OWNING YOUR PHYSICAL DISKS. lol
        what a maroon

        • PSN_IS_GARBAGE

          We own our physical disks moron… no matter what the fine print has to say. Your pathetic attempts at flaming Sony to make what everyone and their mother knows is the worst of the two evils.. MS is just sad.

          If you weren’t such a condescending little jerk, I might have actually read anything you had to say. As I said before you need to get a grip and get in touch with the corporations you are funding.

          In the meantime, I’ll continue to steer everyone I know away from the Xbox One in the real world. Maybe if enough people spoke with their wallets, MS would suffer some like they deserve to for being deceptive about this thing being able to be turned off at a moments notice.

          Lol supporting Windows 8, and Xbox One… that’s like supporting communism.. sad pathetic MS fanboys just don’t know do they?..

  • Dylan

    Fair enough!

  • Brandon Higa

    x1 pre-order numbers when up since this update. If MS deems it enough to beat out Sony then family sharing will never return, for free anyway. Cause no one gives a rat
    like M$ does.

  • xbox rules

    I’m calling ms hq and try to explain to them why drm is a ggood idea

    • DavidinCT

      Do they acutally have a line setup for feedback on the DRM ? I would love to discuss this with them, ***IF** they actually listen.

  • John Smith

    we want our xbla titles we bought from xbox 360 ms!

  • Sledg

    ROFL, the US govt has the nerve to bring up spying. This affects more than MS though. I’m pretty sure cell phones would need to change as well since they collect a lot of user data.

    • roozbeh

      I am sure that there spying on me right now as I live in an enemy nation of the USA

  • http://soundcloud.com/ViRUSfromMARS Jaffa Cake King

    I’d be amazed if that got passed.

    • roozbeh

      Me too. But still there is a possibility.
      When there own magazine is saying it there must be some kind of hope

      • Shane Nokes

        OXM is not owned or operated by MS.

        • roozbeh

          I know that.
          I acidentally left official out.
          Sorry. Thanks for pointingit out.

  • Jeremy Trifilo

    Renting through the publishers isn’t a bad idea, but it needs to have some limitations.

    Otherwise you’ll get the people who rent used games for $1.99 – $3.99 to complete the campaign and unlock all or most achievements.

    • roozbeh

      Dude that would add up to be spending almost 65 dollars

      • Jeremy Trifilo

        Typo my bad forgot to edit the $29.99 to $24.99.

  • David Matthew Baker

    I’m quite sad to see some of the functionality that was originally mentioned disappear due to peoples worries about DRM. That said I can understand why some people would need the option to play games without an internet connection. I do wonder however if it would be possible to have both options available to the gamer and us choose between them. The obvious way to do this is to give all the original DRM and hence related features to digital versions of the game. If you decide to download it you could still log on and play the games anywhere; share them with 10 family members; etc… – I think this would also present an opportunity to show how this benefits the gamer. Then those who want to be able to play offline could still choose to get the disc versions of the games. That said you would of course need pricing to be fairly consistent between the two models. The only other thing that worries me is that less people are going to choose the Xbox because of the large price difference compared to the PS4. You really are going to need to make sure that consumers can really understand what they get (that isn’t available on the PS4) for the additional money. I do wonder if some sort of cheaper ‘tech demo’ type game might make this a bit easier and also work as a good introduction to some of the new features.

    • Paul Guenette

      The family share has been removed, but you’ll still be able to play you entire downloaded library on any console you sign in to.

  • John Smith

    it just doesn’t make sense why microsoft had to go & ruin a good thing. i think they should scrap this pariah of a system & start over with 360′s core gamers who buy dlc as well as xbla games from them. just seems like such a waste…why only care about how much money you can make rather than the gamer & what they would want?

  • John Smith

    all i’ve learned from my past money spent w/microsoft is to not trust them nor spend any more money in their digital media conspiracy.

  • http://wilcowietsma.nl/ Wilco Wietsma

    Freaking kidding me? No headset delivered with the Xbox One? WTF?

  • John Smith

    hey we here at microsoft value all the money you’ve spent on your xbox 360 game dlc, themes, avatars, & xbla we will reward you with keeping none of it on the xbox one but hey you can keep it for as long as your 360 lasts, but hey we do value that you have played so we will reward you with your gamerscore!

  • http://soundcloud.com/ViRUSfromMARS Jaffa Cake King

    Kinect – Mandatory
    Headset – Optional

    I think you got that the wrong way round.

 

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