July 30th 2013 9:00 am PT

Matchmaking on Xbox One with Smart Match

At E3 we shared details on how Smart Match that is coming to Xbox One.  I thought you’d like to hear more about Xbox One’s Smart Match how it will will work:

Smart Match finds the perfect players for the perfect game
Smart Match on Xbox One is matchmaking evolved. It’s smarter, faster and optimized to help you play with exactly the people you want, when you want. The advanced party system goes way beyond the beacons of Xbox 360, which was limited to people you already knew. Helping you discover and connect easily with players is now central to the experience. In addition, for the first time ever, games will be able to share player stats with Xbox Live and each other; to learn, evolve, and provide gamers with the best possible matchmaking available. The results? Titles have the ability to match you with other players based on reputation (which we will be talking more about in a post tomorrow), skill, language, age, and even your specific gameplay style. You won’t find yourself in way over your head but you’ll always have a good challenge.

Smart Match frees up your time
With Smart Match, you can do whatever you want while Xbox One finds your perfect match. This means that less popular multiplayer modes and maps that have traditionally taken a long time to find players suddenly become playable. Because Snap mode is a core feature of Xbox One that lets you do two things at once, you no longer have to wait in lobbies while Xbox Live is matchmaking for you. One friend can even set up matches for your whole party. While Xbox Live is matchmaking, you’re untethered and free to do what you want, like watch TV or check out your favorite website or apps while waiting for your next game. If you’re playing digital games, you can even play one game while Smart Match prepares a second. This freedom to break out of waiting in lobbies and do whatever you want is what separates Xbox One from systems that don’t have a way to instantly switch between tasks.

Smart Match lets you know when your game is ready
After you or a party member inputs the criteria for your perfect game, do something more fun than waiting; it’s up to you. Play another game. Find some new DLC. Jump on Reddit. Update your movie queue. Play some music. Skype with your friends. Like. Comment. Retweet. Take yourself as many touch points away from the matchmaking process as you can and you still don’t need to worry about finding your way back. Once Xbox One is done finding your perfect match, it will prompt you with a simple toast—no matter where you are or what you’re doing—so you can jump straight into playing

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  • ryder4life22187

    So no post on the DOTW for the next weeks

    • m1nh0ca

      It’s GTA IV.

      I guess he’s ashamed to post it once again… I hope on the next week we don’t get Fallout 3 or Oblivion…

      • ryder4life22187

        are we sure its an actual DOTW or just a sale on the DLC which does happen from time to time. Id expect bioshock 2 at this rate

        • m1nh0ca

          I’ve sent a link, but it’s being moderated…

          Anyway, I’ve seen the news in some websites.

      • KMxRetro

        Yeah, “ashamed” of making things cheaper than they once were. Maybe try stop being so entitled, yeah?

        • m1nh0ca

          Man… I think you are new around here.

          Do you have an idea how many times GTA IV was on sale? So, instead of giving us a permanent price drop, they keep recycling the same deal over and over again, avoiding new things.

          So, yeah, that’s the motive of being “ashamed”.

          • KMxRetro

            No, I’m not new around here, thanks. I just don’t comment with “WHY U NO PUT GAMES I WANT BUT NOT ENOUGH TO PAY FULL PRICE FOR ON SALE” every damned week.

            Put your hand in your pocket. If you want something that much, pay for it.

            Or just waste your time crying about it. Your call.

          • m1nh0ca

            Who wanted GTA IV already bought it.
            Who wants GTA IV now (with V almost out) will buy it no matter the price (and buying the retail “complete” edition is cheaper than digital even in promotion).

            So, it’s not about putting hand on the pocket… I really want to do this… just need to be interested on the game or buying by impulse only because it’s cheap. DotW is one of the few Gold features, so I want to enjoy it properly.

      • Michael Burden

        It unfortunately appears that you are probably correct after I quickly checked xbldb and saw those reduced as a “Gold Exclusive”. It is really a shame that the marketing department can’t come up with more variety than the repeated GTA IV, Bioshock II, Clancy games, Fallout 3, Oblivion and Assassin’s Creed DLC. There are several games & DLC which have not seen any sales through Deal of the Week and others which have rarely been reduced. Sure it is great for those who missed out the first time around, but the amount of times these have shown up is pretty ridiculous. Give them a permanent reduction and move on to highlight other games.

    • Chris Hofer

      Check xbldb dot com under the price decreases to see what’s on sale this week. More than just GTA. Lots of Games on Demand titles.

      • Michael Burden

        True, but the only “Gold Exclusive” ones are GTA IV related, meaning that it is (once again) the “Deal of the Week” (or is it “Weak” in this case).

        • Chris Hofer

          Good call. Thanks for clarifying.

    • Chris Hofer

      I also saw a Tweet reply from Major to another Twitter user that he wasn’t going to be posting deals this week on his blog.

  • Dennis Crosby

    Will I be able to play a game and watch basketball with the snap feature

  • Daniel Olszowy

    Smart Match bases on your Age..One Question, what about those kiddies who makes themselves older to enter mature games like gears or halo. Is there an Option to prevent matchmaking with them?

    • Chris McQueen

      well how will the system know, it’s not Microsoft’s fault people lie, there’s nothing they can do.

      • Wowseriouslydudes

        They can measure the pitch of their voice when they say xbox on.

        • roozbeh

          what about chicks?

        • Chris McQueen

          well, what about girls?

      • Fingleberries

        They probably can’t tell if someone lied about their age, but because play style and rep will follow through all games (if I understood correctly), it will eventually mean that miscreants eventually get relegated int a matchmaking group all of their own.

        • Chris McQueen

          unless they are very good 10 year old lol

  • mcmax3000

    I didn’t care one bit about the sharing stuff, but something like this:

    “If you’re playing digital games, you can even play one game while Smart Match prepares a second.”

    Kind of makes me miss the ‘install the game, and the disc is no longer needed’ feature. Being able to quickly switch between multiple games (or maybe a game, and a DVD/Blu-Ray) while waiting for things like matchmaking would’ve been awesome.

    Oh well.

    • Death Dealer

      I guess the answer is to go digital only. Stores like GameStop are about to go out of business if MS pushes all the good features on digital sales only and I think the people that caused MS to make the 180 just signed the gaming retail’s death warrant. In their previous model even industry robbing stores like them still had a place, but with the clear feature segregation about to unfold, their demise is going to be accelerated.

      • mcmax3000

        Bandwidth cap. Downloading Blu-Ray sized retail games is completely out of the question for me. Heck, if the sizes for digital only games go up in a major way, I might be shut out of downloadable games completely next gen.

        It’s why I don’t subscribe to PS+ on my PS3.

        • roozbeh

          this man shares my pain

        • xPutNameHerex

          Maybe Microsoft could sell “digital” physical games in addition to the normal physical games. The “digital” version, although purchased from a retail store, could have all the same restrictions/benefits as the old policies, while the standard physical game acts as always

          • Death Dealer

            The option is still there for publishers to let discs install with a license key attached to your account. But that being pushed all depends on the develoeprs and publishers.

          • mcmax3000

            They could theoretically do so, but that would basically mean trying to convince stores to stock two versions of every game, which I just don’t see the stores being willing to do.

          • Death Dealer

            That will very likely never happen. The license will need to be tied to a license key instead of a physical disc.
            The option is still there for publishers to let discs install with a license key attached to your account. But that being pushed all depends on the develoeprs and publishers.

          • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

            Stores wouldn’t stock a digital version. You don’t see steam games at Target.

      • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

        I still think a best of both worlds scenario is possible. DRM digital games and DRM-free disk games can coexist easily.

  • avi

    this sounds great. one thing that I’m sure of is that the three os partition strategy will definitely pay off. Hope it’s really fluid.

  • zatch34

    I don’t understand why a “Smart Match” should take so long that we can do something while we wait? That sounds like a downgrade. I’ve never had to wait that long for matchmaking to set me up with a game. In the time I wait I would just be able to pick what secondary task I wanted to do and the game would be started. Why does matchmaking take so long in the first place?

    • xPutNameHerex

      Just yesterday I had to wait 5 minutes for a ranked Free For All game in Tomb Raider. It’s rare, but it happens from time to time if you aren’t playing at release or the most popular games

    • avi

      the article primarily points out games that are less popular with modes that aren’t visited by too many people or old games that have seen populations dwindle. Those actually do take quite some time to find a full lobby to play against so that’s what they’re trying to tackle with here. Take Halo 3 for example. Finding matches in such an old game takes ages, so in the meantime, you can do something else and switch back automatically when it’s time to begin the match or select the maps. That’s a definite plus in my book.

    • guest

      this would be huge for the less popular games. Try and find people to play Scene It! Box Office Smash. You can be waiting for 15+ minutes before someone pops online. You can’t do anything while you’re waiting on the 360. So people end up just chatting in party chat or doing something on the PC until someone pops on. If all you play is Call of Duty or Halo, you won’t need to wait. If it’s something less popular, it’s silly that you can’t be doing something else while waiting. Who wouldn’t want to play some Killer Instinct while waiting for someone to play something like Karaoke Revolution?

    • A. J.

      Relax. Major Nelson isn’t saying it will take longer than it does now. He is saying that in addition to new features to make matchmaking better, you can multitask if it is slow.

    • Josh Palmer

      learn to read and comprehend bro

    • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

      Was confused by this, too. They’re touting the multi-tasking and snapping as a main feature, but it really only matters when you’re playing a game or mode with fewer players. Traditional matchmaking for popular games and modes will be faster and you won’t need to use the “waiting” features.

  • David Anthony York

    this is awesome, I always planned to buy my games from Xbox live now and even more so cause they tookaway ddisc less game play so now I definitely need to cause I love the smart match feature, okay another game while one game is finding my match making, I’m for it… also I can watch TV and or watch a bluray movie or plenty other things while I wait, that’s for me, XboxOne all the way

    • roozbeh

      samara really?

  • ungeheier

    “With Smart Match, you can do whatever you want while Xbox One finds your
    perfect match. This means that less popular multiplayer modes and maps
    that have traditionally taken a long time to find players suddenly
    become playable.”

    What games are these? Ive always been confused about the hype over Smart Match.

    • xPutNameHerex

      Tom Clancy’s Endwar was notorious for this a couple months after release, especially if you wanted to do a 2v2 or 4v4 match. Some game modes in games as recent as Tomb Raider can take a while to fill up too.

    • mcmax3000

      Most games that aren’t in the top 20 list that Major posts every week that have been out for more than a couple of months can be pretty tough to find a game in.

    • A. J.

      Potentially this could help games like Halo. Instead of an “Objective” playlist, they could break it out into CTF, Oddball, King of the Hill, etc.

    • Michael Burden

      Also applies to less popular maps (such as DLC maps) or game modes in an otherwise popular game like Halo 4. It is a good way to get out of the rut of being stuck paying the same old maps or game modes over and over.

  • CrashOver1de

    Let me get this straight…

    Microsoft is selling this to us as an “upgrade” to matchmaking? Making it take so much longer that everyone is going to want to just go do something else instead…is an improvement? I hope game developers just continue to use their own matchmaking algorithms and ignore this “improvement” from Microsoft. When I go into a game lobby, it’s because I want to actually play the game. If matchmaking takes so long that I would want to go skype with someone, re-arrange my netflix queue, or watch a tv show…I’m going to leave the game and go do that other thing. I’m going to probably turn off my Xbox and go do something else because if it takes that long for matchmaking, it’s a waste of time.

    • EighteenCharacters

      Your comment is a perfect example of the problems Microsoft has had with the Xbox One: they release a statement that’s beyond the scope of imagination or understanding of the reader, and they get grief for it. My hope is that they ignore comments like these. They know what they’re doing, even if you don’t.

    • A. J.

      Read the second sentence:

      “It’s smarter, faster and optimized to help you play with exactly the people you want, when you want. ”

      Like most code, I would have to assume that the developers would be presented with a bunch of different parameters. These could be adjusted in different ways to tweak the speed and quality of the matches. In addition, if the code is more advanced, it would be very possible that matchmaking could be both quicker and better now.

      Basically, the announcement was that matchmaking has been sped up and improved. And in addition, you can multitask while waiting on a match to start, or even waiting on friends.

      And all you do is complain.

      • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

        I don’t know, the announcement seems contradictory. They say it is faster, yet you’ll have time to watch T.V. or play a different game when they’re doing the SmartMatch. That’s where my confusion arises.

        • avi

          if you read it again, ms says that matchmaking will indeed be fast than current standards, but ms can’t do anything about dwindling populations or highly unpopular game modes or mp games, so hence, the snap mode comes into use. Take a game like halo 3 for example or tomb raider. Those mp matches take quite a while to get full lobbies and actually start the game, so there’s a use for snap mode if we see similar circumstances on the xbox one.

    • boe2

      It’s time you would have spent waiting anyways, except it allows you to do something completely else while you wait.
      It’s a feature I adore in team fortress 2: Server full? Just queue up and go play on a different server, the game will switch over when a slot is available. What Xbox is doing is like a super version of that.

  • jose

    this is great right now trying to socialize on xbox live is like a dude walking into a room full of ganster,guetto,natzis and rednecks o don’t forget the non english speaking foreigners trying to tell you how much they hate america with their bad english yet they are playing an american game on a american console.

  • Pablo Menchaca

    Can we install our games from CDs and then play without them so i don’t have to buy a digital version?

    • A. J.

      No. Everyone threw a fit about DRM when that was the plan. So now any game you buy on disc will require the disc.

      • Pablo Menchaca

        I was hoping that didn’t happen. Thanks

      • ryder4life22187

        O were sorry that we actually want to own are games and not want to basically rent them or not let are friends borrow them.

        • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

          Do you even realize they were planning on letting up to 10 other people play any game in your entire library for free? That was all thanks to DRM, but nah, can’t have that, can we?

          • ryder4life22187

            I don’t care about 10 other people.If my kids want to play the games i have on my xbox 360 now they just play them as is. Not to mention it was outted it was supposed to give those 10 people a 1Hr trial supposdly. I’m not to sure why you want to have restricted games just to have a shared games library not worth the hassle in my opinion. It would have been like this if I didn’t get Forza 5 on launch and decided to pick it up in lets say 5 years. Are they gonna have a new copy for me to buy or would I most likely have to hunt on the internet and use the S*** outta ebay and pay a crazy price. Cause if you like that idea theres a problem.

          • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

            No you’ve got it wrong. The shared library was for full games, unabridged. This was confirmed by Microsoft.

            Their vision for the games was like this: Basically the disk you buy in the retail store is a digital license and a trial version of the game. You buy the license and you have to be connected to the internet to download the full game (or portions of it). You could also give the disc to a friend for them to try out and they could buy a license online and get the game for themselves. Therefore, ALL games would be available digitally (You’ve heard of Steam, right?).

          • ryder4life22187

            No you got it wrong they already said if you gifted a game to a friend it is theirs as it is longer able to be played by you even if you got the disc back. I don’t have any issues with the internet setup, but what happens if the internet went down. Some day in the future they will close the servers for the One would you really want to have hundreds if not thousands of unplayable games. Yup i’ve heard of Steam tried it a couple of times and didn’t like it. I like to own a psychically copy of games I play. If your cool with Steam then stay on the PC with your rented views.

          • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

            Oy. I can’t understand your first sentence. Reread it 3-4 times. :/

            The internet thing: Not a big deal for me either. ;)

            Not going to lie, I’d be worried about the future, too. Not sure what’d happen to all the games, but then again I still have my PS2 and N64 and I don’t play with them, like at all. So maybe it wouldn’t make a difference? *shrug*

            Sorry you don’t like Steam. I’ve been using it for years and I really like it. They have great discounts all the time, which is something I’d have hoped for if the Xbox One was moving in a Steam-like direction.

          • kftgr

            There was so much misinformation to the original policy.

            Sharing = let your circle of friends have access to your game library from anywhere. If you so happen to be in close proximity to your friend, you can let them use your game disc so they don’t have to download the entire thing. In this case, you don’t even need your disc back, as your don’t need that to play (the game license is still tied to your library). It was confirmed by Microsoft that it would have been full access to the game, and the 1-hour trial was a hoax. There were no further details on what the limits to the circle of friends sharing.

            Gifting = you revoke the license for the game from your account and give it to a new owner. Your circle of friends will not see that game in your library of shared games. You can not play that game without either getting a new license or playing through someone else’s share. The new owner can now download the game and play it at any time. The new owner can share the game to his own circle of friends. The new owner cannot gift the game to anyone else.

            Reselling = go to an authorized seller and have them revoke your access to the game in exchange for money. It was not mentioned if gifted games could or could not be resold.

            In the event that someday they would close the servers, they would have issued a firmware patch to allow the Xbox Ones to play games without having to check online.

          • KMxRetro

            “and the 1-hour trial was a hoax.” – I agree with a lot of your points, but this one is incorrect. The 1-hour “trial” was confirmed by several Microsoft sources.

        • A. J.

          I’m sorry that I’ll have to keep a physical copy with me, my kids will be able to destroy my games, and I won’t be able to instantly switch between games. Also the fact that if my kids go to a friends house, they would have access to all of my games.

        • kftgr

          Wasn’t there plans to allow selling back of digital games? What about Family share?

    • avi

      people bitched about that stuff, so we probably won’t get that feature now…which really sucks. i was ready for all digital console gaming. looks like i’ll just purchase all of my games digitally.

      • Jason Voorhees

        Agreed.

    • Does Not Equal

      Matchmaking will work with both disc and digital versions.

  • The Yankee

    This is a great idea for games that are older or have little to no traffic specially at night. I wish it would integrate more with more common games like halo series, MW and Battlefield series in dealing with griefers and douch players that have been reported. Stick them all in a their on lobby and leave the rest of people trying to have fun alone…just a thought…

    • roozbeh

      actually that last part is happening on xbox one. the reporting system has an effect like that.

  • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

    Matchmaking is rather instant right now on the Xbox 360. Is matchmaking on the Xbox One going to take so long as to necessitate being able to watch T.V. and play other games at the same time? I hardly have time to fling an angry bird when queuing up for a Halo 4 match right now.

    …but I can see this being very nice on games that have very few players. I have to wait ages to get a multiplayer game going on some of the older titles I have on the 360.

    • Josh Palmer

      it specifically said “This means that less popular multiplayer modes and maps that have traditionally taken a long time to find players suddenly become playable.” Which means if youre in a playlist with only 133 people in it you wont have to be bored to death waiting.

      • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

        Right. So the snap and multi-tasking features are irrelevant for popular titles.

        • Josh Palmer

          Not really. It allows titles to have much more focused playlists. Say I want to play Assault in a Halo game. But right now Assault is buried in a Team Objective playlist. So there is a chance I get into that playlist and play a different game-type than what I want. Well with these new features I can cue up a very specific playlist and if it isnt very popular and has a low population the wait is now bearable because I can do something else. Sure the more popular playlists will result in an instant match but maybe, just maybe I REALLY want to play assault right now. So instead of having 5 playlists they can have 20. Then if they allow the user to say “dont match me up with people with bad rep, or people who dont speak english.” Then that would take longer than saying “match me up with anybody”. This allows you to craft the experience you want and gives you something to do IF there is going to be a wait. In theory, of course. We will see how i actually plays out.

          • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

            Okay, that’s kind of cool. Thanks for clearing up some of my confusion. I like that vision of SmartMatch.

          • Josh Palmer

            glad I could help!

    • avi

      snap mode is universal. it doesn’t have to be only between games and something else. it doesn’t only have to be for waiting on matchmaking. you can literally snap anything side by side. app by app. game by app. app by tv. etc.

      • Death Dealer

        Yes, but I don’t think it’s full on Windows 8 four different things side by side. I could be wrong though.

  • Vince

    Please Major allow xhamster and redtube apps on xbox one

    • roozbeh

      disgusting.
      plus cant you use the internet explorer app for that?

    • avi

      lol…that’s never going to happen, bro.
      just use the ie app.

    • Silent_Killer01

      would be nice if anyone could make an app for the xbox 360

      • Jason Voorhees

        Hey, if you turn your Xbox One into a devkit you’ll be able to sideload your own apps. But why not use IE? Many pr0n sites work.

        • boe2

          No need to sideload. Just implement WinRT and .NET 4.5. Even a partial implementation is OK if that means that developers can easily make an xbox version of their windows 8 apps. That way, all the video apps you could ever want WILL appear sooner or later.

  • fastharryDOTcom

    How you can compare that with SONYS technological achievement of a blue light on the controller is beyond me…

    • roozbeh

      that wont work unless you buy the unbundled ps eye camera.
      how dare you even compare this silly feature from M$ to sony’s stuff.

  • Silent_Killer01

    I wanna know what options we will have when we fill the 500GB HDD with the required full game installs? Dual layer blu-ray disc are 50GB

    • ryder4life22187

      My guess is they will use part of the cloud for storage I suppose. Sony and Panasonic are supposed to be working on 300GB discs that are supposed to be a successor to blu ray in 2015 can’t wait for that kinda install size next gen.

      • Nick Peck

        What they are making isn’t for regular consumers, it’s more for data backup and the like. By the time that takes off it will be in another 5+ years. Ever buy media when it’s new? It’s crazy expensive as are the drives that use it.

      • M$ $ony

        4k resolution baby! I think anyways.

        • Nick Peck

          That will probably be one use for it, but not anytime soon.

          • M$ $ony

            I think it’s going to be sooner than everyone thinks! 4k resolution TV’s are becoming more affordable each and everyday. I believe in 2014 there is going to be a huge push for 4k resolution TV’s. Most TV shows are already shot in 4k. I just hope it doesn’t take as long as HD TV’s to catch on.

          • Jason Voorhees

            http://www lowtek ca/roo/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/resolution_chart.png

            The problem with 4K is that its use is non existent in most living rooms around the world.

      • Death Dealer

        Don’t count on that format being viable. Digital streaming services are already outgrowing retail sales for audiovisual media. And who wants to buy yet another set of hardware to be able to read those discs? That’s why Blu-Ray never really took off like DVD, because of all those spec updates that required new expensive hardware all the time.
        If they wanted that space for the new gen, they should have just gone HVD (1.6 to 5TB optical disc).
        It’s just another waste of money for Sony and people wonder why they’ve been doing so bad financially for the past 5 years.

    • roozbeh

      lets see.
      external hard drives. usb storage, unlimited cloud space.
      take a pick. i would go with external hard drive

      • Silent_Killer01

        I know but on the 360 we are limited to 32GB.

        • http://www.handcraftedcopy.com/ Wes Mitchell

          You’re limited to flash drives on the 360.

          The one will support external hard drives.

          Those are two very different things.

          • ryder4life22187

            How are we limited to flash drives on the 360? I currently use a 120GB external HDD of course 32GB can only be used for games but the rest is used for tv shows and movies.

          • http://www.handcraftedcopy.com/ Wes Mitchell

            Whoops. That’s my bad. I haven’t used external storage on my 360 in forever. Thanks for the correction!

        • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

          I know. Kind of a pain. I want to spend more $$ on games but my space is so limited and I’m not a fan of storage management. T_T #firstworldproblems

        • roozbeh

          The xbox one is a different console. Im not that sure but I think Microsoft would allow that.

    • http://www.handcraftedcopy.com/ Wes Mitchell

      One fact that isn’t being talked about much is that the xbo will support external hard drives via USB 3.0

      I’m planning on slapping a terabyte or two onto my new system!

      • Silent_Killer01

        if they let you

        • DarkMaturus

          There has been no max hd size limit discussed

          • Silent_Killer01

            Also very little detail about expanding storage. I just don’t want to be forced to buy an overpriced Xbox one external hard drive.

    • Jason Voorhees

      All your games will be able to be installed on external data carriers, such as USB harddrives and flash drives, so you can carry your digital collection to friends with you (if you don’t want to install from the cloud).
      I heard even USB 2.0 devices might be supported (but don’t hold me on that).

    • M$ $ony

      If I was you I would consider getting an external SSD (Solid State Drive) for games and use the HDD for movies and other misc. stuff. It is the smart thing to do TBH. My roommate who is getting a PS4 is scrapping the HDD in the PS4 and upgrading to an SSD, because HDD’s should be a thing of the past when it comes to gaming.

      • Nick Peck

        You have to make sure the ps4 will support an SSD HD first before spending the money. It is possible that an SSD can move to fast to run games they way the system is designed to do it. Sound stupid but it’s true as it doesn’t work exactly how the pd does it. I’m sure sony will have a HD compatibility list at some point.

    • Nick Peck

      I have a 500gb usb 3.0 drive that I’ll use with it should I need to. Generally, if I’m totally done with a game I will uninstall the game files and move the save games over to a HD. It’s what I do now on my used to be almost full 360 320gb HD.

  • sibtrag

    I’ve wanted this feature because I tend to like games other than FPS-type and some of those have very few people playing multi-player.

    However, this might worsen the existing problem where people aren’t ready to play when matchmaking finally completes…

    • roozbeh

      I agree
      There must be an awareness system in place. Or this feature could be quite a waste.

      • sibtrag

        hmmmm…. just thinking out loud, but maybe the always-present, always-on Kinect could detect that you aren’t physically at the console anymore & drop you out of matchmaking.

        • roozbeh

          Good idea.
          Also another thought to keep out kids from fps games could be that too. Kinect could analyse your face and it could confirm your age in a way.

        • Jason Voorhees

          But then you’d still have to be physically present at all times during the matchmaking. If I suddenly need to go the toilet, I wouldn’t be too happy if it kicked me out of a half hour long waiting session. I’d just go for an audiovisual que, like a phone ringing when the matchmaking is done in the background, so you’d have to switch (unless the Xbox One has some kind of notification center, but I’m not hoping on that as it isn’t in Windows or WP yet).

          • roozbeh

            There could be a time limit to it. Say around 10 minutes.

          • sibtrag

            Yeah.

            And those of us who might partake of “adult beverages” will just have to cross our legs because getting up would trigger an automatic exit of the matchmaking lobby.

          • Jason Voorhees

            LOL

          • Nick Peck

            haha

          • M$ $ony

            The article above states that you will be made aware of when your match perfect match is set-up.

          • Death Dealer

            But a simple toast isn’t really audible when you’re on the john.

          • M$ $ony

            I guess you have smart glass for android and Iphone that could be used to monitor and set-up matches.

  • Jason Voorhees

    http://www handytips info/1372/microsoft-will-reintroduce-the-xbox-one-at-press-event/
    Can’t wait to see what this means.

    • roozbeh

      When?

      • Jason Voorhees

        Dunno. No date specified.

        • roozbeh

          Damn it. I really can’t wait

    • Nick Peck

      Sounds like a good idea. For the record, I was fine with all of the original policies and what not, but I can understand why they had to make the changes. I can do on the XBO what I do on the 360 now, buy the games I keep digitally and buy the games I know I will trade in at some point on disc.

      I think doing something like this will help get the ball rolling uphill so to speak and will generate the positive press they are looking for. I take my hat off to MS for the speed they have made said changes and how well they have listened to their fans / supporters. $500 is fine with me, but if they do drop it that is icing on the cake and that will make me get the 2nd system again since I dropped my ps4 preorder (was getting both, but the ps4 has zero games i want at launch).

      Good job MS, keep up the good work. Oh, please invent a time speeder upper machine, good god this wait is horrible :D

      **Oh, also wanted to say, Good work to Major, love the site and I’m sorry you have had to heal with so many.. ummm.. well I don’t have a nice word for the people that show up and are a pain to deal with. Us real fans enjoy it and look forward to everything you and MS have for us.

      • Jason Voorhees

        Yes, but in the original DRM plan you were still able to trade your purchases and resell them. The license wizard was to be expanded upon to allow that and detach your license keys. It was more cumbersome, but MS was never taking that away, that’s what people should realize.

    • boe2

      As much as I’d like it to be true, there is absolutely no source that backs this up. It’s some obscure site claiming they have an “inside source”. Let’s say, an easy way to get traffic.

      Let’s hope they ARE preparing a bloody impressive event for gamescom though.

      • Jason Voorhees

        I know, it looks like clickbait.
        Maybe they are just talking about GamesCom.

        • Nick Peck

          Yah, that’s what i was thinking. Noticed several grammatical errors as well so I’m taking that with a grain of salt. But hey, it could be true :D

          • DarkMaturus

            I am also hoping for some awesome news. The hardware upgrade rumor, the price parity rumor, and headset in box tease. And what about full release of official specs. hopefully specs that make the Sony fanboys stay off our forums lol. Lots of things to talk about. Microsoft, instead of throwing the kitchen sink at marketing, throw that money at providing us the best, cheapest piece of hardware! Show us die hard fans some love! :)

    • Death Dealer

      It’s click bait. Major Nelson confirmed it on Reddit. Sorry bro.

  • gamer04

    So can you not snap mode and play a physical game at the same time? Only digital purchases? Is this because the other game is in the drive that its matchmaking for, and you can’t put in another disc for authorization? I’m guessing so. Since we have to install anyways, this is making digital purchases a bit more enticing.

    • M$ $ony

      I really wish more people would have gave these policies a chance. I saw some wonderful things and only a few inconvenient negatives such as, having your internet being down for service.

    • kftgr

      Just imagine if this was still pre-policy-reversal. The question of discs would not even come up.

  • Joshua Guss

    Yeap the XBOX ONE is smarter than a Smart phone. That’s another reason why the XBOX ONE cost more than the PS4, the PS4 is not Smart. It’s just a regular gaming console with real life graphics.

    • dibils

      x1 also has real life graphics on top of being smarter then a smart phone ;)

      • DarkMaturus

        I was thinking about the comparison to a smart phone when I saw the reveal.

  • M$ $ony

    There are some interesting videos out there where the Xbox One’s DDR3 and PS4′s GDDR5 are used in comparison videos to simulate the 50% theoretical more power the PS4 has over the Xbox One and it’s true that in a side by side comparison the PS4 out performs the Xbox One 17% to 33%, but you can’t hardly tell the difference between the two. The eSRAM and cloud were not taken into account with these side by side comparisons so the gap should close even more making the PS4 and Xbox One graphically the same.

    I am also interested to see if the rumors ring true that $ony’s PS4 will only have 4.5 GB of RAM readily available for games and 3.5 GB of RAM for OS with 1 GB of Flexible RAM. I was actually wondering if the 4 GB of GDDR5 rumor the PS4 was going to use was actually a leak of how much RAM is going to be used for games and with the 1 GB of flexible RAM it would put the PS4 at 4.5 GB of RAM. I have no idea if this is true or not, but we can only wait until $ony releases everything officially.

    I’m also very excited about M$ reintroducing the Xbox One to the public with everything clarified and many rumors being put to rest.

    • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

      You raise some interesting points, but I find it incredibly hard to take a person seriously when they use dollar signs in lieu of S’s in Microsoft and Sony.

      • M$ $ony

        If it would make it more creditable and make you feel better I will change them just for you. I use them, because money is ultimately what each company is after.

        • http://www.pathofdestruction.us/forums Xtowers

          Thanks! That’s very nice of you. :D

          Sure money is what they’re after. They are businesses, right? I don’t think they have any illusion about wanting to make money. Saying you include the $’s because they’re after money is stating something very obvious. ;)

          Now back on topic: the difference between the RAM on both machines. Both rigs have 8GB RAM. Your mention of a side by side comparison being almost identical is great. There’s so much debate right now between which machine has better specs than the other, but the bottom line is they both have 8GB. Period. Any other difference is comparing apples to apples. I don’t have any doubt that either machine will use its available resources to create the best user experience possible.

          • M$ $ony

            Agreed!

    • DarkMaturus

      4.5 of RAM is dedicated on the PS4 for games. Sony has issued a comment on the following link. They further discuss the “flexible” memory you speak of and DO NOT refute the 4.5 RAM guarantee. 1gig is “flexible/direct.” Again, 5 gigs of DDR3 and 32mb Esram is on Xbox One is dedicated to games. Conversely, 4.5 gigs of conventional RAM, DDR5 is dedicated on PS4.
      eurogamer net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-system-software-memory

      • M$ $ony

        I still am going to wait until all final specs of each console is out until I make any sort of purchase. Xbox One still has some things to clear up and PS4 still has some things to clear up.

        I have no idea how much RAM the PS4 will offer, but I have knowledge in areas, such as this and there is no way the PS4 will offer 7 GBs of RAM for games and only 1 GB of RAM to the OS. That would be complete madness! The amount of things that have to happen as fast as they do at the same time leaves no room to grow if PS4 only offered 1 GB of RAM.

        To be clear. Sony has not issued an official statement on the amount of RAM is offered for the OS and for games. I think they were using peoples ignorance to further sway public opinion farther in the direction of their console.

        I just hope Sony comes out soon and explains this all before Gamescon, because as of right now I have no trust in them.

  • kftgr

    Interesting. Wonder if the following are possible:

    1) Set up smart match. Watch Netflix (or any other video app). XB1 auto pauses Netflix when I play the game. Then when I setup another smart match, resume Netflix where I left off.

    2) They only mention snap mode, but can I also get smart match notifications when watching live tv? Seems like if the TV signal is going through the XB1, it wouldn’t be hard to overlay a notification.

    3) Play another game, but have it suspend and resume. Might be pushing it if it’s switching between two full releases. If it is possible, then I sure as hell see why they initially wanted the daily online check, as discs checks totally kill this.

    Even if 1 & 2 are the only ones available. I can see myself using it, as my Netflix queue has gotten woefully long as I work on my game queue.

    One more hopeful positive I forsee with this: multiplayer and community longevity for some of the less popular games. All too often this generation, less popular games get abandoned because there just isn’t enough critical mass to sustain an enjoyable multiplayer experience. Smart match should definitely help with that. Oh, and along those lines, Indie developers should be thrilled at the idea of Smart Match, as it can help to sustain that critical multiplayer mass.

    • M$ $ony

      The way you can get around number three is if you were to download the games digitally. No one knows yet if new releases are going to be available on the Xbox One at midnight on release day so you don’t have to drive, stand in line, get the game, and drive back home to install it and play it.

      • Jason Voorhees

        1) Yes
        2) Yes
        3) Yes
        Suspend is there for retail purchased games as well as long as the game is in the drive (for games that have their license attached to the disc).

    • DarkMaturus

      I LOVE #2. I believe this will be a launch feature. I’ll tweet Major Nelson about it.
      I do a lot of Black Ops 2 Easter eggs. I’ve been using the forums to find people, but its more work than I’d like. This post talks about matchmaking with non-friends via certain criteria. This will be cool to find people to do Easter eggs with :)

  • Fitzgerald

    if matchmaking really takes so much time you need the ability to do something else while it is finding a match, I would consider that a failure, not a feature…

    • DarkMaturus

      This is a big Win for older games without “call of duty” in the title. Older and games that are not as popular take time finding matches.

      • Fitzgerald

        I still don’t see it as a win.. I’d rather play against available players and bots as opposed to sitting and waiting… if you want to wait on your friends fine.. do something else and wait for them to come online, but if you want to play some MP just throw me in an available map… if there are enough players to do some cool algorithmical smart match matching awesome.. if not just let me play…

        • DarkMaturus

          I went back to Black Ops 1 yesterday. Their were 56 total people searching for a match on the map I was playing. Smart Match could have helped me in that situation. Furthermore, if you don’t mind sitting in a lobby for awhile to find people….awesome, you can still do that. Nothing has changed for you in that regard.

          • Fitzgerald

            i don’t want to sit around in a lobby waiting for a perfect match.. I just want a match.. not sure why this concept is so difficult to grasp.. if there are plenty of people waiting to get into the pool the match making should be very quick, like not even enough time to switch tasks.. if there are not, then why would I want to wait around for some random period of time hoping someone hops on.. I guess if you don’t value your time it’s cool.. but since I do just put me in with some bots until other people show up… This certainly happens today not necessarily with older games but also less popular MP game modes.
            Anyhow.. I see this as certainly something the “cloud” can help out with.. assuming game publishers opt for this type of matchmaking instead of their own.

          • Boss Saucier

            Nobody said you have to sit around in a lobby, waiting for a match. In fact, this feature prevents that from ever being necessary. You can still play the popular, quicker games if you want to; but some people prefer quality over quantity.

      • usrev

        I have never tried playing a game and not finding a match for more than a few minutes. even older games like rainbow 6 vegas.

  • Pete

    Yup. I reckon they could still have done most of it without the online requirement but they tried to appease the early grumblers by working in a way to still trade discs which then forced the check-in to validate licenses.

    They should have gone all in with digital and announced a price drop for games to bring them into line with PC thus offsetting the loss from no resale.

    Still waiting on the final pricing for discs vs digital but if they’re on par (which would be a miracle) them it’s digital all the way for me. Will hopefully pay off in the long run should the fabled Family Sharing make a return.

  • Joshua Guss

    Hi Major; to make the XBOX ONE more smarter, if we miss something on TV that we wanted to see, can we rewind the XBOX ONE back so we can watch what we missed?
    I don’t care what those PS fans say. They can call it a cable box all they want. We still have the ability to play video games. These are just features, unlike they get.

  • usrev

    I still don’t see the point, never have I waited more than 10 minutes on any xbox 360 game, heck even ps3 games the wait times are less than 5 minutes at the worst of times.

    • roozbeh

      well lets say i want to play a session of an unpopular game mode in halo.
      some of them game modes take a while to fill up. this could be helpful.

  • MrRadiolips

    Im patient so i really dont care about this feature too much, but handy for others i suppose.

  • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

    Major, i’de like to know how “cheating” and “glitching” will be handle this time. On 360, we can report people cheating, but it feel it never did anything. Plus, i don’t want my reputation going down just because im good at a game and people rage quit.

    Since the xbox is recording, will it allow microsoft to have access to a tape of the reported cheater ?

    The snap feature (no lobby) seems awesome =)

    • boe2

      Major posted this a few years back:

      majornelson com/2010/03/28/pax-east-panel-enforcement-on-xbox-live-tales-from-the-din-part-2/

      It talks in detail on how enforcement is done and it’s a very amusing panel in general. Listen to it, it won’t disappoint :)

      • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

        thanks for the link, never heard it, ill check that ! helpfull community is what this blog need.

  • Jan Václavík

    With the original DRM still in place, we would be able to play any game in our library.

  • AC130

    I am starting to gear my home’s internet towards a digital heavy future. It has a lot of benefits for countries like mine to allow for better prices for games with no real excuses about cost of getting the game into the country.

    • roozbeh

      Australia eh? tough luck on saints row 4.

      • AC130

        We have R18+ now so shouldn’t be too bad.

        • roozbeh

          I heard saints row 4 got banned there

  • Bush O Connor

    how about servers for every game with server browsers. no more p2p.

    • roozbeh

      that is happening my friend. at pax Australia they said all xbox one games have dedicated servers

      • Bush O Connor

        i just read another comment on the CoD topic about it.
        cheers man, just hope they didnt mean dedicated servers for matchmaking that would still connect people p2p.

        • Xboner2013

          As far as COD:Ghost I have seen no announcement from them saying they are going with dedicated servers on any platform.

          Developers have had access to trueskill Xbox ranking system for a very long time.

      • Xboner2013

        At it again with this lie… dedicated servers support is up to the developer not the console manufacturer. And no, not every game will have dedicated servers, as very few games even need them.

        • roozbeh

          huh you really want me to keep denouncing you right?
          i dont give a damn anymore. say what you want to say

          • Xboner2013

            Yes you do, I really hope you are getting paid for spreading the obvious false information.

          • roozbeh

            i dont get paid by ms if thats what your implying. plus this is the truth. your the one who is spreading lies now.
            but whatever lets you sleep at night

      • M$ $ony

        There is more than enough server available to have every game on the Xbox One use dedicated servers. It would actually be stupid of the developer not to utilize the servers the Xbox One offers as they are considerably cheaper, because Microsoft maintains them.

    • Yubik

      MS are making cheap servers available to anyone who wants to use them for Xbox One games. It’s just down to the devs whether or not they want to use them.

  • Liquidfx Xboxdude

    he didn’t say anything fanboyish. get a life.

  • Fitzgerald

    I don’t disagree that providing the option to do something else other than wait in some game lobby is a nice change.. but I fail to see a valid reason the have to wait in the first place… Like I’ve said many times.. I would rather just be placed in a map with available players and NPCs if there are not enough players for the older game or game mode… I mean, what’s the timeout? I could put in some obscure title and be waiting for 10 hours for enough players to make a game.. is that desirable?

    I actually like how GOW Judgment seems to work with match making… it probes available games/lobbies and if at first pass it finds nothing it just spawns a new game and puts you and any other available players in there.. and supplements whatever remaining holes with NPCs… of course playing MP against NPCs is not perfect, but much better than just sitting there waiting IMHO, even if you have the option to do something else…

  • mcmax3000

    I can’t download digitally. Bandwidth limits.

 

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