August 9th 2013 2:02 pm PT

An update on the change from MS Points to Local Currency

More information about the change from Microsoft Points to local currency that we announced at E3:

Earlier this year, we announced that we are bringing local currency to Xbox 360 and Xbox One consoles. This change was a direct result of customer feedback. You told us you want to be able to buy things using money instead of points, and we listened.

Our goal is to make this transition as easy as possible for you. After the next Xbox 360 system update, when you go to buy something or redeem a Microsoft Points card or code with your Microsoft account, we’ll add to your account an amount of currency equal to or greater than the Xbox Marketplace value of your Microsoft Points, which will be retired.

Making a purchase will be faster and easier than ever. You will see item prices expressed in local currency; no need to calculate what an item costs! You will still be able to directly purchase content from Xbox stores using any current form of payment available in your region, including credit cards. And starting in late 2013, you’ll also be able to buy new Xbox Gift Cards (denominated in your local currency) through our online retailers and in local retail stores. These gift cards can be added to your Microsoft account online and are another easy-to-use payment option for customers.

Don’t worry about your Microsoft Points Cards either. We’ll continue to accept purchased Microsoft Points Cards and codes until further notice, and we’ll add to your account an amount of local currency equal to or greater than the Marketplace value of those points. In addition, we know you’ve worked hard on your Microsoft Points earned through Xbox Live Rewards. These will remain in your Xbox Live account and transition to local currency with the rest of your Microsoft Points.

Source: Xbox Wire

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  • Liquidfx Xboxdude

    please stop saying you “listened” if you have of listened none of this would have happened. anyway, i don’t remember a lot of people talking about ms points in a bad way. i like those and now, no matter what, we will have to pay taxes on digital games, except for arcade games so far. that sux. oh well. so much for digital.

    • ElektroDragon

      I know, in some states like WA, Microsoft just made EVERY digital purchase almost 10% more expensive by getting rid of Microsoft Points which I used to be able to purchase tax free from certain online stores. Not only tax free, but often AT A DISCOUNT! There’s no way they will continue selling actual money cards now they are getting rid of points. I hope they do because that will also help people who want to use cash. But I doubt it. :( Even if they do sell them, it will be a lot harder to discount a $50 face value card vs a “4000 MS point” card. So much for MS point card discount sales, so much for eBay discounts, so much for legally avoiding sales tax.

      • Nick Peck

        It’s one of those, enjoy it while it lasts kind of things. I stocked up on a lot of MS points and plan on trying to get more if I can. Have 24k so far :p Also, if you preorder GTA V at the MS store, you get a free 1600ms points card for free.

        • evilfangs .

          Do Microsoft points transfer over to the Xbox One like our Gamertags do? Because I too might stock up on Microsoft points now if they transfer and I can use them on my Xbox One.

  • Rickard Olsson

    “Making a purchase will be faster and easier than ever. You will see item prices expressed in local currency; no need to calculate what an item costs!”

    And it only took 8 years!

  • thatisbusiness

    microsoft is not listens to us with the cartoon UI!

    • roozbeh

      ????????????????????????????

      • thatisbusiness

        CARTOON UI IS METRO UI

  • thatisbusiness

    CARTOON UI IS IT’S TIME FOR ATTACK

  • E.Nich

    It was that hard to make available payment for all marketplace games in MSP AND in real currency as already can be done with Games on Demand? There was no need to get rid of MSP since it could coexist perfectly with credit card and paypal payments.

    • numpty

      Just because it happens already doesn’t mean it’s not a massive pain in the butt for Microsoft to administer. Much easier for all concerned to only have to worry about a single payment method regardless of what you’re buying.

  • Tomo

    I don’t want local currency. I want to use the US store. Everything is dirt cheap on there.

    • Ivanx360xpira

      me too…

      • Eric Lawson

        Then create a US account.

        • numpty

          Yep, this certainly works. Trouble is some stuff won’t download to non-US consoles without going through a US proxy/VPN, which makes it all a bit less convenient.

          • roozbeh

            not non us consoles. non us ip addresses

          • GmailIsDown

            xbox one will not be region locked

    • roozbeh

      well get an address in the us(or make one up) and you can use that store. but its not that cheap compared to europe

  • Liquidfx Xboxdude

    i don’t remember seeing anyone complain about that which is why i don’t understand this whole thing.

    • roozbeh

      oh there were many of them. those stupid fools

  • StonerSmurf420

    Well, im glad msp codes can still be used till further notice even if converted at redemption. Like others though I just dont get why msp is being replaced with local currency. If ppl realy supposedly wanted to buy in local currency thats what paypal or a credit card are for. Both local currency and msp could have co-existed just fine just as they have for the past some odd years. But….. even after complaining about it my mind keeps comeing back to he first sentence of this comment…..

  • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

    im Canadian and i pay gas at a higher price compare to US, but i guess EU pay diesel less ?

  • http://raptr.com/unscleric/about UNSCleric

    I am bummed that all the points I currently have will expire in less than one year (I’m in the beta so this change already occurred for me).

    • Chuck

      I know you can’t discuss it, but I hope MS has aleast been smart and they spend the banked money first. I’d hate to have $2.00 in my account and go and buy something for $10 and it take $10 out of my bank account instead of $2 from my balance and $8 from my bank account.

      • http://ronaldlocke.tumblr.com/ Ron Locke II

        kind of like they do with NIntendo store allow you to buy the ammount you like and you can use your account stuff first or if you look at steam they use your account balance first before using your bank account..

      • GmailIsDown

        they have been doing that with points all along and they will do that with currency as well.

        “If some or all of my new currency has expiration dates, how can I make sure I use the earliest expiring currency first?

        If you choose to use the currency in your Microsoft account for a purchase, we will automatically use the earliest expiring currency first.”

        support xbox com/en-US/billing-and-subscriptions/account-management/microsoft-points-retire-faq

        • Chuck

          good news.

  • roozbeh

    i would really doubt that. it would probably be more like 10 dollars equaling 10 euros. maybe even less

  • Voreo Sabrae

    Rather our points not expire, but other than that looking forward to an easier marketplace.

  • numpty

    Shocking. Imagine having to pay people for the full value of the goods and services they’ve lovingly crafted for you. It’ll never catch on.

    • http://twitter.com/incphi incphi

      Yes, think of all those unappreciated people working long hours to lovingly crafting our MSP redemption codes . . . ;-)

      What possible effect would wisely buying your microsoft points at a heavily discounted rate have on how much revenue the digital content creators receive from your purchases?

      I hope that the many sources for cheap MS marketplace credit don’t all dry up after this currency change is officially implemented.

  • http://ronaldlocke.tumblr.com/ Ron Locke II

    I would love if you buy Microsoft points at any location though out the world you redeem them on to your “what ever account” and get a local converation on to that account like if i went to america i pick up a 1600 point card for 20 with my canada dollars and went to canada and redeemed them on my canada accountr i would get canada money instead of saying you cant redeem this here you need a american account this would void the way you go to another country for your cards if you buy them any place you still get a converation on what ever account you pick it just a matter of marketplace prices you pick so if you went with a american account you redeem you get the american prices for items.. not the canada prices like traveling over seas but from your living room or if you buy a credit card from over seas and you use it on your account and have something shipped..

  • evilfangs .

    You will be able to go into your local game store and buy them as a prepaid gift card. So you pay 10 Euros and you get a 10 Euro gift card which you redeem the same way you would with MS point cards.

  • Adam Pepe

    Why does Microsoft keep saying, “You spoke, we listened”? Microsoft didn’t listen to any of it’s gamers. They realized that their points system was so messed up, and followed the example of Sony w/ how Playstation does their digital transactions. Same thing w/ all the changes made to Xbox One concerning the “always on” and “no pre-owned games” etc… Stop trying to make us think you’re on our side, Microsoft. You’re just trying to play “catch-up” at this point

    • GmailIsDown

      the point system was not messed up at all. it is the morons who can’t do math’s constant complaining prompted microsoft to make this change.

      • Quanicus

        Not always about the math. I’ve had 30 points sitting on my account and couldn’t do anything with it for 5 years. I refuse to buy ANYTHING for the avatar, and every time I purchased points I would have the newly purchase plus 30 points. What can I purchase WITH VALUE for 30 points? The system wasn’t perfect!

        • GmailIsDown

          on PSN you cannot just add any amount of currency to your Wallet. i’d think it will work the same way on the xbox with currency. so it is likely that you will have the same problem. i think companies do that to avoid small credit card charges.

          if you are just going to buy games and DLCs by charging your credit card directly, you are going to miss out on the discount. i always buy microsoft points at a decent discount. with the points going away i don’t think we will see discounts that often anymore. it will be just like PSN.

        • roozbeh, again

          so you would rather not have that amount of money and be taxed right?

          • Quanicus

            Wrong. I already had the Microsoft points changed to American currency, and when I purchased Mass Effect 3 DLC, I was NOT tax. I was charged the exact dollar amount. Just as you’re not taxed for purchasing MS points online now.

          • roozbeh, again

            great. but still will miss those awesome discounts. ah well

    • roozbeh, again

      i agree ms did not listen to what gamers wanted but this system in my view was always better than psn’s solution. they didnt have to change it.

  • Quanicus

    Adam Pepe, I COMPLETELY agree. That whole ‘you spoke, we listened’ is
    such a juvenile approach. No self publishing, now you can self publish –
    you spoke..24 hour check in, no 24 hour check in – you spoke, no
    sharing games – share as you do today – you spoke, we listened. Major
    Nelson in every interview at E3 said this was Microsoft direction into
    the future. He also said how these things CANNOT be changed because
    their built into the infrastructure of X1. A week later, it was all
    changed. The sad thing is, Microsoft look at their Xbox Customers as
    idiots, and rightfully so. The majority of people on this forum and
    others ALWAYS rant console war, and PS4 sucks (when no one as played
    it). Majority of the people on the net are juvenile themselves, so it’s
    no surprise MS will continue to say You Spoke, We Listened and these
    people will gobble it up. Their not listening to you directly, its
    because they don’t want to fall behind the competition. The only thing
    they listen to is the sound of your debit/credit card swipe, or the
    sound of you counting you dollars. Not the sound of you screaming on
    the net about not buying their console. MS will sell X1 regardless, they
    just don’t want to fall to far behind PS4. I love the changes they’ve made, but it’s about the bottom line, and that bottom line MONEY!

    • GmailIsDown

      it is always about money. if you whine because microsoft listened to their customers because of money, you are as dumb and juvenile as the fanboys.

      • Quanicus

        Does make any sense.

    • roozbeh, again

      the bottom line is always money. it always was and probably always will be. these are companies looking after money.

      • Quanicus

        Of course the bottom line is money. The point is, the whole you spoke, we listened BS is ridiculous. From IGN to NeoGaf forums, people have been asking for real currency since 2009, NOW all of the sudden the listen. Hilarious.

        • roozbeh, again

          they do listen but it took a hell of a lot of convincing for them

    • O Mosqueda

      We speak, they don’t listen, you hate them.
      We speak, they listen, you hate them.
      Is there a way that could make you happy? Since you hate that a corporation wants money, I guess you want things free. Nothing in life is really free. You better install Linux and get your games there if you hate that people want money for their work.
      I’m glad you like the changes, but then, what is it you want?

      • Guest

        Why bother? Another one who has information go over their head! Keep believing its because they listened. Listened to a small group of Internet freaks complaining. It’s people like you their speaking to. Read the context for what it is! Read it slowly, then come back and comment. If you feel the information is to much for you to understand, don’t comment!

      • Quanicus

        Another one misses the point. ANOTHER ONE MISSES THE POINT. If I HATED the company, I wouldn’t support them. If I wanted something for FREE, I wouldn’t have reserved the console with $100.00 down. Since when has $100 dollars the equivalent of FREE. You miss the point, which is the sole reason they can get away with saying things like ‘You spoke we listened’. ANOTHER ONE MISSES THE POINT. WOW, can people such as yourself really be that………….ANOTHER ONE MISSES THE POINT.

        • roozbeh, again

          for some reason i though that was like a queen song.
          dum dum dum, ANOTHER ONE MISSES THE POINT.

          but i disagree with you completely

  • Austin

    But I liked the point system.

  • roozbeh, again

    try doing it from the xbox website. i had the same issue once and it got resolved when i did that

  • roozbeh, again

    theres probably gonna be real(as in the currency) pre paid cards for you.

    • beardyman3218

      Yes it will work the same way psn and itunes cards work.

  • beardyman3218

    I like having real currency as i know exactly what a game is gonna cost me, no more trying to work out how much it costs and having 20msp sitting there staring at me, saying “go on you know you wanna buy more, what can you do with 20points go on buy more” :)

  • xXgannicusXx

    will anything change when it comes to currency disparity? people are going to be pretty pissed in Canada paying more than the US for DLC when the currency is 4 cents apart or when ours is actually higher. A game is $60 in the US, and its $60 in Canada, but $20 get you 1400 MS points in Canada vs 1600 in the US…its a stupid conversion system, and I doubt MS will fix it.

    • O Mosqueda

      Do you mean that the equivalent for US$20 gives you 1400 MSP? In Mexico we pay around US$21.50 for a 1500MSP card and US$25.30 for 2000MSP on the console. We both get about a US$2 mark-up, probably taxes. I don’t think is too much but when we´ll know exactly how much it is in our currency under the new system and make the conversion, maybe we will feel more ripped-off.
      I hope the change will allow you to buy an XBLA game and be charged exactly for the price of the game when using credit card and that I won’t have to buy a fixed quantity of credits expressed in my currency in order to buy an XBLA game.

      • xXgannicusXx

        you’re kidding me, right? your currency is 80 cents to the US dollar, our is 97…you should be paying more b/c that isn’t a fractional difference. our currency was even above the US numerous times the past few years. not really comparable. also, our taxes get added after the $20, not before, so that’s nothing to do with it. we get 1400msp for $20, 2800 for $40…that’s 70msp per $1, you’re getting 79msp per $1 for the 2000msp…which makes no sense given the currency differences

        • O Mosqueda

          See, when we know exactly how much are we paying with less arithmetics needed, a lot of us are gonna feel more ripped off. BTW, my currency is less than 8 US cents.

          • xXgannicusXx

            i looked up the Mexican peso when I posted, it was essentially 79 cents, I just rounded it up to more round number

          • O Mosqueda

            Trust me, the only time it was close to that number was when Porfirio Díaz was the president, we pay from 12.80 to 13 pesos for every U.S. dollar, not 1.25 pesos.

  • ronald’s riley

    ah great, i just get an xbox 360 and no more tax free downloads.

    • O Mosqueda

      I don’t think they were tax free, either they charge you that with the cards or when you bought online or when you do your taxes. However, there were some situations were you could get some advantage up to US$5 when purchasing cards or when you purchase GonD with points. What I will miss is the rewards program, I don’t think they will make it possible to receive credit in your account with all the different currencies they’ll have to deal with.
      It will be a mess with the conversion rates and a lot of people will be furious if they find that someone receives more than you or that they are worth less just because of currency fluctuation, I hope they adopt a good system to avoid as much as possible those messy situations.

  • Ivanx360xpira

    I like MS point, they served me well for years. But I think if you are logged in a BR account instead a US you won´t have problem with that, once y don´t need a international credit card to buy things using live BR. I´d like to know how this gonna work for people that lives in Brazil (or any other part of the world), but has an US account, like me. Probably I´ll have to migrate my account…fortunatly it seems live BR is getting better at least in the content available…so I´m doing my head for that, my only regret about changing account is the lame number of Arcade titles available on live BR.

  • Jamie Popay

    I wonder when the new update will be.

  • Punisher138

    You convert my points I have stored, and if I don’t use them in time, my money expires? That shouldn’t be legal.

  • theConstruct

    For the record, THIS SUCKS!

  • sebastianboehm

    COOL! XBOX ONE works without KINECT PLUGGED IN !!!

    So now you just have to understand that people dont pay for things they dont want, so where is the aerobic free core gamer system for 300.- bucks ???

    (it was said that kinect makes up to 50% of production cost, so if you save about 50% of the production cost, an unfucked version of the XBOX ONE could sell for 300.- Bucks instead of 500.-)

    And dont forget, many core gamers hate motion control. it is uncomfortable!

  • roozbeh, again

    is this sarcastic or something? i cant tell

 
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