August 9th 2013 10:00 am PT

Xbox One: Sharing Digital Games and Gold

Today Marc Whitten has posted details on how Xbox One will expand how you share your games and outlines some of the benefits that Gold members will be getting at no additional cost.

Here are the highlights:

Sharing Digital Games
Everyone in your home can share digital games with each other. Your Xbox One can become your virtual game library filled with digital games that different people in the home bought. Anyone can pick any digital game on your Xbox One, sign in with their own gamertag and play – even if the owner is not signed in. Like physical media, you can also play many digitally downloaded games without being online, although experiences will be best when connected to the internet and Xbox Live. Finally, when you purchase a digital game, you can start playing even before the entire game downloads.

Because your digital games go with you, you can also use and share digital games when you sign in to another console. And, if you happen to buy a digital game when you are signed in on your friend’s console, your game will also be available on your Home Xbox One console for anyone to use.

Sharing digital games is a great feature of Xbox One, and we’re also making it possible for Xbox Live Gold members to share some of the best benefits of Gold.

Sharing Xbox Live Gold benefits
At E3 this year, we briefly highlighted a new benefit we’re bringing to Xbox Live Gold members on Xbox One. We’re calling it Home Gold. It will enable any Xbox Live Gold member on Xbox One to extend many Gold features to others at no additional cost. One Xbox Live Gold account delivering great benefits to everyone in the home.

Here’s how Xbox Live Gold members can extend Gold benefits including multiplayer gaming, Game DVR, SmartMatch and access to entertainment apps and experiences, including The NFL on Xbox, Skype, Internet Explorer:

  • At home. You can set up your console at home so that anyone who uses that console will enjoy multiplayer gaming and access to entertainment apps – even if you are not home or logged in.
  • On the go. You can log in at a friend’s house and everyone there can enjoy multiplayer gaming and access to entertainment apps while you are logged in.

At Home with Xbox One
If you’re an Xbox Live Gold member, an unlimited number of people can enjoy many benefits of Xbox Live Gold while they are using your Home Xbox One console. Friends and family will simply create their own account and gamertag and be able to enjoy Xbox Live online multiplayer gaming and access to entertainment apps.

Friends coming over to play? No problem. They can log in with their own gamertag and play online multiplayer. Even if you sign off, your friends and family can enjoy multiplayer gaming while they are playing on your Home Xbox One console.

At a Friend’s House with Xbox One
On Xbox One if you are an Xbox Live Gold member, you will be able to go to a friend’s house and play co-op multiplayer– even if your friend is not a Gold subscriber. Once you log in with your Xbox Live Gold account, everyone using that console can access multiplayer and entertainment apps for as long as you are logged in.

At Home with Xbox 360 and Xbox One
If you are an Xbox Live Gold member today, you are already set for Xbox One. Your Xbox Live Gold membership for Xbox 360 will seamlessly become an Xbox Live Gold account on your Xbox One and you will be able to enjoy Xbox Live Gold features on either console. You can even be logged in to Xbox 360 and Xbox One at the same time. Home Gold benefits are exclusively for Xbox One.

What Home Gold Means for the Xbox One Experience
With Xbox One everyone in your home has a personalized account, which will enable powerful and personal experiences, and that’s one of the reasons why we wanted to create Home Gold. It means that your account and your gamertag are truly yours. You don’t have to share your gamertag for multiplayer gaming with others in your home, or see recommendations for your kid’s cartoons next to the recommended first-person shooter for you. It also means that you can introduce new games and enjoy multiplayer with friends while they are at your house. Last but not least, it also means that when you buy one Xbox Live Gold membership, multiple people can enjoy the best benefits of Xbox Live Gold on your Xbox One at no additional charge.

 

Xbox Live, Xbox One By Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson

  • FiReViNcE

    When you ‘roam’ to your friends house you can play your downloaded games. So when you ‘roam’ to the second console in your living room you can do the same. I think the DRM for your downloaded games is linked to both your profile when roaming to a secondary console and signed in, and the profiles’ of everyone whom has a live account based on your primary home console.

    This is how I understand it, please do correct me if I’m wrong.

  • Not_A_PC_Gamer

    This sharing is irrelevant to me and It doesn’t matter since I refuse to buy digital unless there is no other option available. This gen just like last gen.. 99% physical copies and 1% digital. I don’t care if a game is more expensive on disk or not.. The benefits of digital will never outweight the pros for me..

    • Roberto Merino

      Did you ever hear about Diogenes syndrome?

      • Not_A_PC_Gamer

        Nope I haven’t..

        • Sledg

          Hey, I think it’s pretty cool you have all that stuff. We may not see eye to eye all the time but I respect your opinions.

          • Not_A_PC_Gamer

            Likewise.. I try to do my best but the problem is most other gamers don’t. I like to think of it all as sort of a definitive gaming collection from the 3rd gen to now.. I’m especially fond of my NES games. You gotta remember the NES was the Playstation of 1985! Classic stuff I used to play as a kid, Tyson’s Punch out, Kid Icarus, Blaster Master, Wizards and Warriors, Rygar, Zelda Metroid, Mario, Comando, Trojan, Ghost and Goblins, River City Ransom, Excite Bike, and so many others It reigns supreme of any other console generation IMHO.

            The only other time we came close to that greatness was with the Playstation 1 IMHO.

      • ElektroDragon

        You’re disgusting.

  • Mr Stocky

    How will it work on 360?
    We now have family membership. It says that home benefits will only be for one. Does this mean all 4 on 360 will need live memberships?

    • deadbox102

      That’s what I read. Gotta love MS.

  • FiReViNcE

    Check your e-mail for the answer to this question, all current x box live family package members (your family), will have their family memberships converted to full gold memberships only when they sign in on the x box one. You’re welcome. :)

    • NarcoSleepy

      And then you get to pay for TWO separate Gold accounts. You’re welcome. :(

      • FiReViNcE

        Actually no you don’t :(:(:( the :( x :( box :( live :( gold:( family :( membership :( is :( converted :( to :( a :( full :( gold :( membership :( for :( all :( the :( family :( users :( at :( no :( extra :( cost :(that :( makes :( you :( wrong:( you’re not welcome.

        • NarcoSleepy

          And when they expire, you now have multiple Gold accounts to pay for. If you don’t plan on ever using your XBox 360 or you want to share one account, this isn’t a big deal, but for those that do – and MS has stated that they plan to support the 360 for years to come – this can be an expensive and unwanted proposition.
          I’m not sure how this will affect the XBox One Gold. For those of us with multiple consoles be able to put Gold on each one with our split up Family Gold accounts?

          • FiReViNcE

            First of all I’d like to apologise for my short fused reaction last night, I was tired and grouchy so I was rude; which I usually am not.:). Second of all I was under the impression that your x box gold family membership would automatically convert to 3 or 4 full gold memberships, rather than just one for the whole family to use; but I’m willing to concede I was wrong here if you have evidence I should believe otherwise. If they do make you pay for 4 gold memberships for your family after the conversion I can see this being problematic where playing on different co soles is concerned. Anyway, I think more explanation of all these new details’ fiber points is needed from someone in the know at Microsoft, because right now this whole thing is one huge convoluted mess, salutations; good evening. :)

          • FiReViNcE

            First of all I’d like to apologise for my short fused reaction last
            night, I was tired and grouchy so I was rude; which I usually am not.:).
            Second of all I was under the impression that your x box gold family
            membership would automatically convert to 3 or 4 full gold memberships,
            rather than just one for the whole family to use; but I’m willing to
            concede I was wrong here if you have evidence I should believe
            otherwise. If they do make you pay for 4 gold memberships for your
            family after the conversion I can see this being problematic where
            playing on different co soles is concerned. Anyway, I think more
            explanation of all these new details’ finer points is needed from
            someone in the know at Microsoft, because right now this whole thing is
            one huge convoluted mess, salutations; good evening. :)

          • NarcoSleepy

            My initial response was purposefully snarky, so don’t sweat it :) You are not wrong about having 4 members in the family gold plan converting to single gold members. One of my complaints is that for those that stay on XBox 360, they now have to pay for 4 gold memberships once they expire, which doubles the cost. Have no clue how this works for XBox One. Enjoy your weekend!.

  • Nate

    Not happy, Major. I have three Xbox 360s with Family Gold, and an Xbox One on preorder. Home Gold sounds great but it needs to have some features ported back to the 360s. My daughter and wife will still watch Netflix, Hulu and Xfinity on the 360s. So I will either need to give them my password or buy individual subscriptions to continue what they do on Xbox 360 today. You guys don’t see the flaw in this? You’re taking away from families that will have both systems which I assume is a LOT of people.

    • Not_A_PC_Gamer

      You bring up a very valid and important point. i totally agree.

  • Kevin Giguere

    I don’t understand how “Sharing Digital Games” is different from the way it is currently done on 360, except that before you could do it without a gold account I guess. Am I missing something?

    Also, I don’t understand “At a friend’s house with Xbox One”. If you’re at your friend’s house, why do you need gold to play co-op multiplayer? And if it’s not local co-op, then why mention that you need gold?

    • kftgr

      One thing that’s different with this is that you can log in while at a friend’s place and let them play online if they don’t have gold.

      • Kevin Giguere

        Yeah but they specified “coop”, not “multiplayer in general”. If they just said “online multiplayer”, I would understand. In fact, do use the term “online multiplayer” in an earlier point, but then later on say “coop multiplayer”. Microsoft iadmitted that they had poorly conveyed the message for the XBox One, and they’re confusing it.

        • kftgr

          But read the next sentence: “Once you log in with your Xbox Live Gold account, everyone using that console can access multiplayer and entertainment apps for as long as you are logged in.”

          They’re not limiting it to co-op in that sentence. It wouldn’t be stressing it as such if it was something that two silver members can do.

      • kingcrusher

        You could do this with a memory card with the 360.

        • http://www.about.me/AngeloGopaul Eingoluq

          they won’t be able to play online with their account. They’ll have to use the ridiculous guess account. Not ideal.

        • kftgr

          That’s just bringing your profile over. This is letting your friend also play online with his own account (getting cheevos and cloud saves) and not show up as guest.

    • Kiwiholden

      They have had to announce a lot of things the 360 already do because so many people are to dumb to realise how things work and just complain about rumours they don’t really understand

    • ElektroDragon

      You’re not missing anything. They just announced what already exists today, with that one small difference you mentioned. Nothing really new.

    • http://www.about.me/AngeloGopaul Eingoluq

      with xbox 360 games bought was per console. on Xbox One, You can take your games shared to multiple consoles.

      and when at a friends house if they done have Xbox live they can playonline with you. I’m sure gold will not be needed to play co-op. They have not said that so don’t assume the least obvious situation.

      • Kevin Giguere

        On 360, it is by console and by account. I can go to a friend’s house, log into my account and download and play digital games associated with my account. Likewise, anyone can play games on the console I bought it on.

  • iSoar

    Man, people are never happy. I personally buy 6 gold accounts each year for my friends and family. Never did the family plan cause I didn’t like the master account thing. I’d rather find good deals on 12 month cards and let everyone have their own account. This plan is even better, because all 6 accounts I purchase are shared on 3 consoles. Now I will only buy 3 accounts and everyone will have access to Gold. Further, now when people come over and want to try out a game online, they can play on a quick made account or their own account even if they aren’t gold. Best part is I can go anywhere and log in and play any of my games. Best part by far.

    • Kreten

      You buy 3 copies of each game now? Or do you only buy 3 copies of some games? Because with x1 you’ll have to buy 3 copies or you won’t be able to use “purchasing profile” for games on your own xbox because other member had to have it in order to play game on another console

      • roozbeh

        Incorrect. You will only need to buy one.

      • http://www.about.me/AngeloGopaul Eingoluq

        Where god almighty does it say that? Where is everyone getting that it is only for the purchasing account?

  • Alphapapa

    So with the new Home Gold thing I can ditch the Family Gold (MS doing that for me soon, got an email notice) and drop my kids gold status too and just sign in as owner for all of the Xboxes I have in the house? This will be how the current Xbox 360 is to function as well? How many consoles am I allowed to own? We have 3 360s in the house now and are looking to add an X1 in the fall.

    • Not_A_PC_Gamer

      Hey alpha,

      Yes basically anyone that signs in on your console reaps the benefits of gold.. or so I read!

      • Alphapapa

        Reading more it looks only to be that way on X1 not 360. They really need to clarify this. If true doing away with Family gold will cost me substantially more.

        While they focus on the X1 experience they are forgetting their install base on the 360.

        • Not_A_PC_Gamer

          Yeah I believe it’s only with the one. MS has a habit of not making things very clear sometimes. I can’t see them changing the way things are already on the 360 though.

          At least you will be able to save alot of money on gold memberships though and that’s a good thing!

          • Alphapapa

            Can’t save money if there are still 2 360s in the house that were once Family Gold and now need to be individual accounts.

    • Traversia Viola

      I am in the same situation as you. They are breaking us up into individual gold accounts. Forcing me to decide if I will pay for the additional 3 accounts or just keep mine for the Xbox One. No more info on how this works if I buy another Xbox One.

  • Doug

    So people with multiple Xbox’s are screwed with the new and improved Home Gold. I have 4 physical consoles with 4 gold live accounts. We play different/same (Black Ops 2) games online at the same time and despise split-screen. We are screwed. Makes the PS4 more attractive..

    • kftgr

      Yeah, it seems kind of screwy for multiple console homes. However, PS+ is pretty much the same model, so I don’t see how that would be much more beneficial.

      One idea that would solve things for your situation would be this:
      - All 4 gold accounts set the same xbox as Home console.
      - XBL sees that you all have the same Home xbox and considers you one Family
      - When you log into a non-Home xbox, Live lets you access not only your library, but the library of every member of your Family.

      I call it Home Gold LIbrary sharing. How’s that sound?

      • Doug

        So I would still have to pay for 4 gold accounts (~$200) vs. the Family Gold account I pay for now (~$100). Makes perfect sense…. :-/

        • Kiwiholden

          Doug take back your Idiotic PS4 comment!

          • Doug

            My apologies..(I hadn’t read the PS Plus requirements yet)..so either way we are screwed… :-/ I already turned off my auto-renewal for Xbox Live…we’ll see what happens when it happens. I’m still really disgusted with having to purchase multiple Live accounts…I guess M$ has to pay for their dedicated LIVE server farm some way :-/

        • roozbeh

          And ps4 happens to have that? I don’t think so.

        • Traversia Viola

          Your the second post I found addressing a real issue. What about us real family gold members. with more than one Xbox system in our home.

      • Kiwiholden

        Or they could just detect and connect to each other as they are on the same home network and I’m sure wifi direct could help with that.

        They could easily allow all consoles on a home network to share accounts and content and keep all the stuff they’ve announced here as well.

        IF YOU AGREE WITH THIS IDEA PLEASE REPOST IT AROUND!

        • Steven K

          I came up with the same idea before reading your post LOL

    • Carnage Rules

      How are you screwed? You can still have multiple Xbox ones and accounts? I think, you’re confused.

    • Jason Boyd

      How does this make the PS4 more attractive? It would be the exact same on the PS4, and was the exact same on the 360 before family plans, and on the PS3.

    • Sledg

      This screams troll!

    • Kreten

      It should be called Living Room gold as only one xbox in living room not entire house

  • Costas

    Since MS has started to listen to the community ,
    how about you use a currency converter and fix the European and English price of xbox one.

    499$ does not equal 499€

    • Kreten

      Is it same price to ship a console from usa to usa states and from usa to eu?

      • rhooper

        The consoles are assembled in China.

    • roozbeh

      You gotta hate those incorrect pricings. Every console happens to milk Europe.

  • Mid

    Great news.

    • ElektroDragon

      I should hope so, they just re-iterated how Live on the 360 has worked all along. Only addition was that one account with Gold for that console is all you need.

  • Jason Boyd

    No console in history has had cross generational play, why we expect it is silly. It’s not forcing him to do anything. If he want’s to play with his friend he can get the 360 copy, or his friend can get the X1 and they both can get the X1 copy.

    Oh and in case you didn’t notice, both of us were making jokes.

  • deadbox102

    Why can’t my library by linked through my Family Plan? Allowing my family to play my games on their own consoles if I’m not playing them. The feature you are offering doesn’t really set the X1 apart from the 360. Under this feature I see no reason to purchase digital.

    • Traversia Viola

      someone finally mentioned the family plan. Still reading through before I post about how this is working against a family with the family plan and more than one Xbox in the home. Currently I think they do not want you to own more than one Xbox one.

  • ElektroDragon

    Big speech to announce: “Hey, it works EXACTLY like the 360 does today! Aren’t we cool?”

    WHAT IF YOU HAVE TWO CONSOLES IN YOUR HOUSE? WHAT THEN? THERE ARE A LOT OF DUAL CONSOLE HOMES OUT THERE!

    • Kreten

      They don’t want you having multiple consoles they want your kids to actually only play in living room

      • http://www.about.me/AngeloGopaul Eingoluq

        Where are you guys getting that stuff? They said anybody on your home gold account can sign in anywhere. There seems to be no restrictions.
        no where did they say only the paying members account must always be signed-in and become unusable. I read it over where are you guys getting that from?

        • Doug

          We’ll have to see how it works when we get it…. First I’ll have to buy an Xbox One (5 360′s so far) and then see IF the sub-gold accounts under the main Home Gold account can sign on to multiple 360′s…. I’ll wait for someone else to get burned.. My Gold Subscriptions won’t run out until May 2014, so I have time.

    • roozbeh

      i have three gold accounts on my one xbox 360. with this system guys like me get will have to pay for one gold membership from now on

      • ElektroDragon

        I will admit, its wonderful and an improvement IF you only ever buy one Xbox One. And since the PS4 is more powerful, I doubt I will buy more than one X1 ever anyway, unlike with the 360.

  • DarkNightRJ

    Exactly. Mine is hardly ever plugged in. It’s good for some fun when company is over but that’s it.

    Not having it plugged in wont be an option on One though…

  • Kreten

    This is actually deceivingly “good news” for some. People with family gold having multiple consoles will have to pay full gold price for each xbox one and will have to have “purchasing account” sign and stay signed in to play a game on that console which leaves “purchasing account” unable to play other games on their console

  • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

    This is really good news, it look like some people have bery bad reading skill because it is not like the actual 360 at all.. Great stuff. This news make me want to go all digital again because i hate so much disc. Now please MS, make the digital copies cheaper since they don’t have to ship the game, don’t have to print manual and don’t have to provide the actual disc and to burn it and to package it, etc. Could be a few dollar cheaper than the physical one for obvious reason.

    • DerpieDutch

      This is exactly why we dodged a bullit with the DRM. The pricing is not fair. We would have paid full price for years after a game got out. Im not even starting about the 499€ euro we have to pay for the console.

  • Richard Anthony

    Like several others here we have 4 360 consoles with family gold, and have 4 Xbox one consoles on pre-order (going to be one hellavu Christmas!). I just got the email saying that we will be converted to 4 individual gold accounts with 3 months additional free gold status on each. The home gold arrangement would be EXCELLENT if we were using the 4 accounts on a single console, but it does feel like we are being penalised for having invested MORE in the xbox system…

    I was in favor of the original programs from MS – it could have been the start of a better ecosystem for console gaming, and I have no intention of switching to the competition, but would appreciate the official line on how this is an improvement for multi console homes?…

    • Guest

      No offense, but the PauperStation people didn’t want the once in 24 hour check-in system and their wish was granted. You have the N4Gtard and NeoF AG community to thank for it.

      • deadbox102

        There are many people in my area who wouldn’t be able to purchase the X1 with the 24 hr check-in.

      • Guest

        Thank you for saying Pauper! Clap clap clap!

        • Likmijnballenmaar

          Yes, Hypertallih, we know you’re pathetic.

      • ElektroDragon

        Gods I DESPISE NeoGAFFE.

  • Richard Pitt

    Its going to make me rich, I have already got a list of 17 friends that are willing to pay me $5 for my log-in details so they can have gold :)

  • Death Dealer

    I know MS is still working on an implementation of Family Sharing that was the case before the DRM removal (requiring an always online connection for it to work), but what I would like to see is a licensing implementation the way Windows 8 does it as it is much friendlier.
    The Windows 8 Store allows you to select up to 5 trusted PCs where you can install all your bought software with a full version license and usable by anyone on that PC. You still have to be signed in on that other PC’s store for it to download, but you can sign out after with no negative effect to the downloaded software.
    If MS were to implement this system for Xbox One as well, that would be very good, just let one Gold account have up to 5 registered Xbox Ones.

    • Steven K

      I don’t think we might get to register 5 consoles to a Gold account anytime soon. Remember, Sony tried almost the same thing with digital purchases on PS3 and people abused of it. My bet I hope is that they bring back the Family Pack or I don’t know, maybe allow another Xbox One to share the same benefits as an Xbox One tied to a Gold account and on the same network be wireless or not

  • kingcrusher

    So the question still remains, why the heck do you need gold to view Netflix? Just wondering if they’ve ever given a sane answer to that? Every other system lets you use it without any type of membership. Never understood that one.

    • Death Dealer

      I agree, Microsoft needs te change that and drop all the services that require additional subs from their paywall.

    • ebonyglock

      Even though I don’t have any of those paid subs, I can understand. Their reasoning is probably along the lines of that majority of users who have an Xbox 360 will also have Xbox Live. This will more than likely even be more so with the Xbox One. How many people are really going to spend over $500 USD on the Xbox One and not play online? I have a feeling though it also might have to something to do with their partnership agreements that have been made.

      • kingcrusher

        Actually, two of my friends are not on a GOLD membership and ended up getting a PS3 because they don’t charge just to watch Netflix. That was the entire reason. It’s dumb to make people pay for gold or restrict what every other electronic device known to man allows you to do without a monthly fee.

        • roozbeh

          come on microsoft, you can do it. change one more policy

    • ColdBrew

      It is about everyone involved making money (the point of the businesses including the content providers) and also providing a better service over all.

      PSN may be free but you get what you pay for. The only one worse is Nintendo’s. Again you get what you pay for.

  • http://twitter.com/lightsup55 Timothy Leucht

    “Home Gold benefits are exclusively for Xbox One.”

    Drop the Gold Family Plan for that. What about sharing Xbox LIVE Gold benefits on Xbox 360?

    • Nick Peck

      Well the focus is on the XBO and you kind of need the better options on the new system to help sell it. Makes sense when you think about it.

      • Alphapapa

        To sell the new system while alienating the huge install base already? I realize MS already has my money for the 360s in my home but how does this make me want to upgrade to X1?

        What they need to do is give an explanation of how Home Gold affects current 360 users. It all comes down to software, and MS is a software company. Seems like the next dashboard update could include Home Gold for 360 users too.

  • Chuck

    I’ll still be buying physical games because I’m a multiple consoloe family and we share games with each other. When I finish a game I want to be able to give it to my wife so she can play it on HER CONSOLE. I can’t do that with digital and I still have to buy 2 xbox live accounts.

    • http://www.about.me/AngeloGopaul Eingoluq

      Dude, that is what the digital library is for. Anybody in your family can sign into another console and play their game. and you only need one Xbox livr account. Physical media offers no advantage here. DID you read the article? What you described is the backward playstation method.

      • Chuck

        The way I read

        “Anyone can pick any digital game on your Xbox One, sign in with their own gamertag and play – even if the owner is not signed in.”

        is that my wife can walk up to my xbox and log on to it with an account other than mine and play the games I downloaded on my xbox. That is not what I want.

        I want to be playing a game on my Xbox while she is playing a different game I downloaded on my xbox on HER xbox. That can’t be done. They took that out when when they squashed DRM.

        • http://www.about.me/AngeloGopaul Eingoluq

          It sounds like the exact same thing to me. I’m guess the “your Xbox” is what people is assuming mean ONLY your ONE Xbox.
          I’ve asked major nelson for clarification.

          • Chuck

            I really hope you’re right. Sometimes its good to be wrong.

          • http://www.about.me/AngeloGopaul Eingoluq

            Lol, for real.

          • ElektroDragon

            You’re not wrong at all. MS simply doesn’t care about the relatively small subset of people who buy two consoles of the same type for their home.

          • Nick Peck

            Well honestly, the XBO is always on and if you leave your account logged in it will always be “online” so others can play digital games on another system no problem. I’ll never turn my system off because I don’t need to.

            Or am I not reading what you meant correctly? Just wondering :D

          • ElektroDragon

            What are you talking about? Others will NOT be able to play your game on another console just because you are signed in. That’s crazy talk. They can only play when you are signed in on the SAME console if its not the console you bought the game on. Same as today with 360.

        • Alphapapa

          It is really close to the current digital content system now, with some small differences (improvements?). Under the current system the content is licensed to both you, the purchaser, and the console originally downloaded on. Under this system I purchase all my items on my sons’ Xbox and then download them again on my other boxes. They can play without the need of me being logged in and the other boxes I’m the primary user of so I play without issue too.

          So, if you make your account the primary account on HER box and her account the primary account on YOUR box and download first on the others box then you both should have access to any content either of you purchase.

          Theoretically…

  • http://www.about.me/AngeloGopaul Eingoluq

    @MajorNelson I have 2 questions.
    1) Why is the Home Gold not being extended to the Xbox 360? I have 3 gold account members at home. And the only way to keep playing our 360 games would be to keep our 360. That means we will still have to pay for 3 gold accounts. That does seem a bit unfair. Exclusivity should be dropped soon. It would seem to be the best way to get people to test it out and quiet the masses.
    2) though your article have not said so, people in the comments have the impression that the Home Gold only works for one Xbox One and only for the paying member’s account on another console. Is this true or does anybody in your family group sign in and get access to all games, apps and features when they sign in to the family’s second or even third Xbox One or even a friend’s Xbox One. This needs clarification.

    • Doug

      Or for that matter multiple 360′s in the same house. If I have an Xbox One with a main Home Gold account with 3 other people with their accounts (call them sub-gold accounts, under mine) on that console…can they all three sign into their individual 360′s and play online?

  • kingcrusher

    One thing I really do love about the way Sony is doing it, all you need is one membership for the PS4, PS3, and Vita. It covers all three. Hello, MS, you noticed that, didn’t you?

  • kingcrusher

    Not a Sony fanboy or anything (own them all, and will own both the new ones when they come out) but Sony stated in their E3 announcement that all you needed was one membership and it covered all three systems. That makes sense to me. All I see here is MS figuring ways to increase the amount they are charging us per year on Live. The family plan actually worked, but then they saw the $$ in their eyes and took it away. I’d understand discontinuing it, but they should have left those of us who were already on it alone and allowed us to continue. This is another one of those wonderful moves by MS that shows they are getting further and further out of touch with the gamers.

    • kingcrusher

      C’mon Larry, quit downvoting me, I thought we were friends! lol

    • roozbeh

      no offence but werent you saying you wouldnt buy an xbox because of the drm?

      • kingcrusher

        And they changed that. I stated my reasons, they changed it, now I’m good with owning one. I’m not stuck in stone. I can be won over by companies doing the right things for my entertainment dollars. It’s not like I’m a fanboy of either or any system, if it’s good, I’ll get it.

        • Brent Phillips

          The right thing is in the eye of the beholder. I personally preferred the original plan.

          And BTW (not directed at kingcrusher), but all the consoles have ALWAYS had DRM. If you can’t copy the CD/DVD/BluRay and play the copied version, then it has DRM.

          • kingcrusher

            That would be more like copy protection, but you could still take discs to a friends house and play it, loan it, trade it, etc…

    • Brent Phillips

      Not to comment on the Xbox Home because I don’t understand it… But I will comment on PS+. The problem with theirs is that it cover 3 devices total. So if you have multiple devices you get in trouble quick. Like I have 2 PS3′s, 2 PSP’s, and 1 Vita (PS4 pre-ordered). How do I cover all those devices with PS+? You can’t. I’m stuck having to choose 3.

      I’m surprised that once again MS isn’t fully explaining how this is going to work. I have 2 360′s and will have a Xbox One. How is that going to work exactly. And when I buy a 2nd Xbox One down the road. How is that going to work?

      Confused. But Sony isn’t any better…

      • kingcrusher

        With Sony, it’s actually simple. You have the service, it covers your PS3, PS4, and Vita. That’s it. If you have multiples of those, you have to have two accounts. Pretty straightforward.

        • Brent Phillips

          But that doesn’t work either. If you have two accounts then the one account can’t access the data (saves in the cloud) on the other account. You also have to maintain to different users with different trophies. That doesn’t sound like a solution.

          Or maybe I’m not understanding what you are saying.

          • kingcrusher

            It knows what system is which, and just like you hook up your Vita through your PS3 to tell it to sync, you’ll do the same with the PS3 into your PS4 and Vita into your PS4 and it “knows” your systems. Those are the three covered.

          • ColdBrew

            Sorry I don’t understand how your statement gets Plus features on all of my consoles. They are going to have 4 different devices that qualify for Plus but you can only have 3. I’m already way over my limit without the PS4.

        • ElektroDragon

          You seem knowledgeable. Look at my post above, and tell me what I can do in my situation please? What happens to the Plus games on my wife’s subaccount PS3 syustem when I get a PS4? Do I have to remove Plus from her console to put it on my new PS4 and therefore she loses access to all Plus games I ever downloaded? Can she get her own Plus account even though she is a subaccount? What a nightmare. Maybe Microsoft is doing it better after all, but their multiple console policy is a mystery still, unlike the 360 situation which is pretty cut and dry at this point (see my post about it below).

      • ElektroDragon

        Plus is now required for online play. So I will just get my wife a Plus account and therefore have 6 devices. But actually my wife is a subaccount, so Sony may not let me do that. That might be painful. Sony needs to gets its act together in allowing subaccounts to become full blown accounts.

        I actually had no idea Plus was limited to 3 devices. That’s going to be a huge problem for me once PS4 comes out because I’m already at 2 PS3s and a Vita. Bollocks.

  • Traversia Viola

    @majornelson
    I really need you to explain what they are going to do for a true Xbox family home plan. I see the benefits for a one machine home that has only had one gold account in the house. I seem to be losing a lot of benefits as a home that had a family gold account and more than one Xbox in my home. PLEASE address this issue.

    • Traversia Viola

      Please have them come up with a true “Home Gold” plan and not just a Xbox One Gold” plan

    • Nick Peck

      My kids will have a the second XBO and they will have all of my games installed on it so they can play on it. But honestly, if you are planning on getting “free” games, as in not having to buy a 2nd copy for MP, don’t count on it as that won’t happen for OBVIOUS reasons.

      Consider us lucky we will have these options vs. the nothing like it we have now on the 360. Can’t be too picky man.

      • Traversia Viola

        Not being picky.
        Currently I have a Family plan.
        This allows everyone in my family to enjoy Digital downloads and App
        content on multiple machines in the house.

        Can’t be happy when I am losing abilities on my machines. Under the new plan my family members will lose gold status (unless I pay up). Family members will lose the ability to access App content unless they use only that main machine to access it.

        My wife as an adult, cannot access adult content in the privacy of our room unless I pay up.

        I would really like them to address the difference between the real “Family Gold plan” and this new “Home plan” that applies to a single console.
        and thanks for the “free” game comment.

        • Nick Peck

          Ah ok, I understand better now what you meant. Yah, everyone on your family plan are getting a free XBLG account with some time on it, but yah, you have to re up on those.

          Yah they still need to explain how that works for people in our situations with several systems as what they announced was for more “normal households” that only have one system, so that’s understandable. I’m sure more info will come out for “us” shortly. In the mean time, just keep an eye out for cheap XBL cards online.

          Look around, stack up a few because you can kind of get 3 XBLG cards for the price of one XBL Family plan cost. yah, I’m kind of in the same issue but since I had a ton of credit at gamestop I just bot both of my kids discounted XBLG cards so they have a full 12 months each.

          • Traversia Viola

            I am not sure what your motivation is, Nick Peck. But please let me be. You seem to be trying to divert focus from an issue you seem to not really know anything about.

            You have a family but you have never looked into the Family
            plan. You want me to buy discount cards from Amazon. You have accused me of trying to get a free game. You are saying I want free accounts.

            I paid for the Family Plan, it was not free. The cost of the plan was higher than a single plan thus I was paying for the extra accounts, just at a discount because I bought a bundle.

            Replacing my Family plan (a plan that covered all the members in my family, both in my home and out of my home) with a plan that only covers a single console in my home. Only
            the primary account holder in the “Home plan” can enjoy gold status outside of the home. That is one person, so if you
            have two children they cannot go to a friend’s house and enjoy gold status unless that friend is gold. Thus shooting
            down this whole take gold to a friend’s house. This completely destroys the family construct for gaming.

          • http://gcomputer.net/ DarkGray Knight

            Seems like “normal households” are just those that don’t have Xboxes yet. Looking at the people posting here, there are quite a few homes with multiple Xboxes. Of the people I know with Xboxes, those with families have multiple Xboxes. I think they need to come up with a more complete way to handle family accounts. Both the Xbox and the members of the family should have Gold status. Before it was just the members of the family (so friends without Gold that came over could not play with Gold Live features). Now it is one Xbox and one account that is Gold. So the one account is free to go elsewhere and bring Gold with them while the one Xbox still has Gold on it.

  • Traversia Viola

    I am with you brother

  • http://www.vgrevolution.com John L

    Thank everyone who bitched and moaned about the original DRM plan. I really hope MS smartens up and creates a new Family plan similar to iTunes Music Match. Allowing you to authorize X number of consoles and they have access to all your purchased games. The powers that be, who are obviously strictly businessmen who sit in meetings all day are obviously coming up with these silly complicated ideas.
    Here is what they should have done:
    Kept the DRM, but added an option to pop a disc in to authentic when no internet is present. All of these complications we are now facing would have been solved. We would be able to buy a game on one console and all our our FAMILY members would be able to use it on other consoles. It’s so funny how they push FAMILY and FAMILY gaming, but then just make it SO expensive and convoluted for families to game.

    • Traversia Viola

      Wow, good idea. I did not think of Apple Home Sharing for your computers and iTunes accounts. Even though we use it for music and a few Apps in my home. It does allow me to purchase items for my daughter (not even 10 yet) then move them to her iPad.

      I have to admit, the think tank at MS has not been exploring
      these business models they are pushing out as finalized products. They are really putting the hurt on a good product. I do believe this move has really put them in a position where they have to defend themselves against a Family oriented group of Xbox supporters that are not too happy with this move.

      They are so busy trying to re-invent the wheel. They may just destroy it.

      P.S. They did let me register two machines in my house to share a dashboard beta. They must have forgot they can do that.

  • Death Dealer

    There was an update on Game Informer.

    “Xbox One makes it easy for everyone in your home to share digital games,” a representative told us. “Your home’s Xbox One console acts as a virtual game library filled with digital games that different people in the home bought. Anyone can sign in with their gamertag and play any digital game – even if the owner is not signed in and even if the console is not connected to the internet.”

    “Also, your digital games travel with you, so you can share games with friends when you sign into their console,” the statement continues. “If you purchase a digital game when you are signed into your friend’s console, your game will be available on your console at home for anyone to play. Once you sign out of your friend’s console, they will no longer have access to the game you purchased.”

    “This is similar to how digital games work on Xbox 360 today. The difference is when you purchase a game on your friend’s Xbox 360 console, the game is tied to that console you purchased it on, not your home console. When you go home, only you can play the game on your console, and no one else can play it on your console unless you sign in with your gamertag.”

    To be clear, when you purchase an Xbox 360 game remotely, anyone on the purchasing Xbox can use it (as was pointed out in the comments). However, use at home requires the purchasing Gamertag to be signed in. On the Xbox One, licenses are expressly tied to Gamertag only. This is a significant change, as our readers have pointed out that it is possible to get two copies from a single purchase on the Xbox 360.

    • Nathan Novak

      Not entirely sure how Xbox One distinguishes friend versus another household console, but I am betting it has to do with gamer tags tied your Xbox live home gold account. How many of those can we have again?

      • Death Dealer

        I know they will tie one console to your account, that is your home console. It’s how Xbox(dot)com allows you to download stuff to your console and with the Xbox One remotely apparently, but I don’t know if it will allow for more consoles than one. My guess would be no because of the clarification underneath. MS wants the 1 legitimate license per customer, but if they do allow concurrent sign-ins on multiple consoles (but e.g. limit those to a max of 5 and within 1 external IP address) that would negate this problem and I could LAN party with my friends. I hope MS can clarify some more.

    • Traversia Viola

      Not sure what your repost is trying to accomplish. This go to a friend’s house and buy content is really coming from left field. How often does this happen?

      Let’s look at a Family of four (4). The Family purchases a Gold account, most
      likely it will be in a parent’s name or account. The children cannot go to this friend’s house that is not gold and share anything. Let’s say they put it in one child’s name then the other child is out in the cold with his non-gold friends.

      They really need to have a Family plan.

  • Lezlow

    Major Nelson, I appreciate the information about the Gold Plans but this does not explain how people with multiple consoles in a single home. Right now I have 3 Xbox 360′s in my home. I plan on getting 4 xbox ones depending on how well the TV interface works. The community needs to know how people with more than one console will be affected by these changes and the loss of the family plan. Yes the ability to have a single plan for all users on the xbox is awesome but paying 100 bucks for 4 accounts was easy affordable and having a interface to control those accounts was very helpful. Yes I can wait for the sales for 30 dollar year subs but its still not the same price and its more hassle keeping up with 4 accounts and their subscriptions. I am not expecting a reply to this, I am just hoping you read this and pass the word on that this is something that the community needs to know before we go and drop 2,000 dollars on 4 consoles. If Microsoft truly wants to be the all in one entertainment hub they have to realize that a lot of families have entertainment rooms as well as living rooms and bedrooms all have TVs as well. We need clarifications about these policies. Thanks.

  • Greg Francis

    Dear Major,
    Thankyou for the information on Xbox Home Gold for Xbox One. As good as this plan may seem for single Xbox One owners and their family and friends, the removal of the xbox gold family accounts will increase the cost of using Xbox live for my family by over 250%. That is from $129AU to $320AU. We are a family of 4 gamers, 2 adults and 2 kids, with 4 Xbox 360s in our house. We all enjoy gaming, and we all enjoying gaming online with each other and our friends. The family gold accounts offered us the opportunity to each have our own gold account and gamertag and enjoy the full benefits of gold on any console, either within our house or at friends place at a very affordable price. The money we save on account subs was then able to be used to purchase DLC, extra games and music and movies from the Xbox ecosystem. We have, at this stage, preordered 2 Xbox Ones and was looking forward to enjoying both consoles under the family plan. Each person being able to log into any console, be it 360 or One and enjoy the full benefits of Xbox Live Gold under the family plan. Xbox Home gold does not have this capability. Xbox Home Gold only applies to Xbox One and only to one console. For my family to continue using our Xbox 360s as we currently do we will incur a 250% increase to our account subs as we will now be required to purchase individual gold accounts. Now Microsoft and in particular the Xbox side of the company talks a lot about family and the family gaming experience and yet with the removal of the family Gold accounts microsoft is eeking to penalise those families who support Microsoft the most by buying multiple consoles and multiple copies of games/DLC to play on those consoles. I hope microsoft reconsiders their decision on removing the family plan and re-instates the option, or at the least extends the benefits of Xbox Home Gold to multiple consoles including the Xbox 360.

    • Quanicus

      You spoke, let’s see if they listen!

    • bulldog180

      I have the same problem. It seems like MS haven’t even thought about a family with multiple consoles

  • HGamer

    “At a Friend’s House with Xbox One
    On
    Xbox One if you are an Xbox Live Gold member, you will be able to go to a
    friend’s house and play co-op multiplayer– even if your friend is not a
    Gold subscriber. Once you log in with your Xbox Live Gold account,
    everyone using that console can access multiplayer and entertainment
    apps for as long as you are logged in.”

    You mean online multiplayer or offline multiplayer?
    Why can’t you guys state your policy clearly everytime? Not to mention adding xbox twitter support’s confusing answers to the mix.

    • roozbeh, again

      /facepalm

      seriously thats not clear enough for you? of course they mean online multiplayer.
      xbox twitter support itself probably doesnt know so best not ask them.

  • Ivanx360xpira

    Major, lets say I went to friend house, and logged to my gamertag in his console, then I purchase a game from his console (logged in to my gamertag). Of course I´ll be able to play this game in my home console, but this friend of mine will be able to play this game in his house, logged in to his account?

    • roozbeh, again

      he can, as long as your logged in on his console.

      • Ivanx360xpira

        yep, then it´s not a huge thing, once digital content will stay in cloud this can be easily implemented…I´m truly waiting that MS change this system to something like the original sharing policy…for me that was a great step to make games more affordable, especially outside US…that was fantastic, shame MS was so lazy to explain that in the beggining..

  • ronald’s riley

    so whats new? well besides the gold thing?

  • Stephen Hickam

    so really from what I understand the new GOLD HOME is actually better than the family plan as long as your using the Xbox ONE. (will explain lower) However, if your using a 360 it actually makes things quite more expensive. The best thing to do for Microsoft is to give access to GOLD HOME on 360s as well as the Xbox ONE, or my alternative mentioned below.

    -HOW ITS ACTUALLY BETTER ON XBOX ONE
    you could pay for one gold account and get access for 7 additional accounts to gold for free.(and not be limited to the same 7 accounts all the time) registering one Xbox ONE (we will call “MAJOR” to simplify the rest of the conversation) as your HOME console. then logging onto another Xbox ONE.(call it “NELSON” see what I did there) Any 4 gamertags could log onto MAJOR and play online as a gold member for free, and at the same time if the actual Gold account logged onto NELSON an additional 3 gamertags could log onto NELSON and play as a gold member for free. That’s essentially 8 accounts for the price of one. Since the current family gold pass is roughly the price of two gold subscriptions, a person could purchase two actual Gold accounts and spread them the same way accross 4 consoles(the otherr two being called “LARRY” and “HRYB”) and get an additional 14 free gold member accesses accross all four consoles. (totaling 16 accounts for the price of two)

    -THE ACTUAL DOWNSIDE VS FAMILY GOLD PASS ON XBOX ONE
    with the family gold pass you had four Gold accounts that could each go anywhere onto any Xbox system.

    -ONE ALTERNATIVE NOT YET MENTIONED
    Microsoft could extend the Family Gold Pass to the Xbox ONE, but limit all four Gold accounts to having the same “HOME” console. Ultimately allowing 4 any gamertags to play on the home console, and any 3 gamertags to play on another Xbox ONE with one of the actual Gold accounts. (math being 4 free + 4(3 free + 1 actual) equaling 20 accounts online instead of the possible 16 as mentioned above) a small price to pay to both benefit the consumers and appease the current family gold subscribers while not affecting the 360′s current setup.

    • Stephen Hickam

      I currently have one 360 at home and have the Family Gold Pass giving myself, my Wife and two of my 4 kids gold accounts. we do however take our individual gold accounts all over to friends houses (many without gold memberships) and to our local Youth Center enabling us to play and share our gold memberships with others through guest log-ins. I do however applaud Microsoft on basically extending the guest access to actually using there individual accounts/ gamerscores/achievements, just wish the value could extend with it.

    • kftgr

      I think they are trying to get away from the idea of master and sub accounts with the removal of Gold (and also conveniently requiring more plain gold subs).

      I was proposing an idea as such:

      Gold accounts registered with Home registered to the same console gets grouped into a Family behind the scenes. When a gold account goes to a remote xbox one, they are able to access the libraries of any member in that library. Call it Home Gold Library Sharing (HGLS).

      The benefit for the loyal families with multiple XBOs would be:
      A1) no need to purchase multiple copies of the same game.
      A2) no need for complicated workarounds like setting your Home console on a secondary machine in order to share your library on that machine.
      A3) anybody can purchase content, so you don’t have to either have one account buy everything to facilitate sharing.
      A4) even accounts in the Family that didn’t do the purchasing can go to a friend’s house to temporarily share the game

      The downsides of such a plan:
      B1) more cost for families vs the old Family Gold, as each member needs gold. However, while the cost of gold might seem like a big thing, the benefit of A1 should outweigh that.
      B2) dependent on having a working internet connection to log in on remote XBOs to access content

      Upside for Microsoft to do this:
      C1) More gold subscriptions. One per account, vs one per XBO without HGLS. Given how much MS values gold subs, this is huge.
      C2) this can be done behind the scenes without upfront changes on the console itself. Could be as simple as a database search for other accounts with the same Home console to determine Families.
      C3) Good will. You screwed over your most loyal customers (multiple consoles count for something!) by discontinuing Gold.
      C4) Incentive for everyone to go digital and move away from discs.
      C5) It’s a stepping stone back to their original Family Share plan.

      Downsides for Microsoft:
      Well, there’s pretty much only one: Library sharing abuse. On the light side, a few friends all putting their home console as the same. On the extreme side, strangers getting together on forums to setup massive round robin sharing rings.

      There are restrictions that will limit the amount of abuse:
      D1) Trust. Abusers would need to have enough trust in the physical Home console’s owner to set that console as their Home.
      D2) online connectivity. To take advantage, the abuser would need to accept that their console is to be an always online console.
      D3) Library volatility. A member doesn’t pay their gold sub or decides to join a different ‘Family,’ then his games are inaccessible for the rest.
      D4) Limitations can be implemented by MS if it gets out of hand. It could be a limit on the number of Home accounts per console, or maybe the number of times a game can be concurrently shared.

  • Frederick Siegel

    In my household we have multiple 360s One for living room, bedroom, 17 year old son’s room and one that my 9 and 7 year old share. Everyone watching or playing something at the same time. We purchased 2 of the 360s after we found out about the Gold family plan. Our physical video game library is well over a hundred games and growing. In fact, most of the families I personally know have multiple systems in their household. We planned on continuing with purchasing multiple xbox ones within the next year or so.
    The change to the Family plan, if it doesn’t involve multiple consoles, would definitely alter our plans for the One and, possibly, the whole dynamic with our current 360s. We would much rather spend money on the games( as well as hulu+, netflix, amazon prime, and movie rentals).
    Is there anything in the near future that will address multiple console homes?

  • theConstruct

    “Everyone in your home can share digital games with each other.”
    How is this any different that the current policy? Anyone can sign into my console and play any title I own.

    • Michael Burden

      But they can’t play online multiplayer or access many of the apps unless they sign into your gold account or their own gold account under the current system.

  • Geoff900

    What I meant was, if you have a connection it should be able to allow you to go diskless.

    However if you don’t have connection you have to put the disk in.

    Hope that clears things up.

    It would be good for those who don’t want to have to have the disk in all the time.

  • Tabby

    What about the kids going to a friends or family’s house with xbox 360… They each will have to have a $60 live membership to enjoy play away from home? Only the primary user can enjoy “away from home” live with the home gold. Its b.s.

    Then how about the 3 xbox 360 consoles in a home. All the games that have online multiplayer but only single local so we have to play with our family on seperate consoles in the same home. so we have to buy 5 xbox live memberships per year at $60 each? So with new games for each and upgraded equipment, etc plus the $300 a year for gold…. Hell no! At this point the whole family wont be able to afford to play games they like and it will be a constant battle btn kids and parents on who will get to play since we cant afford to keep up multiple consoles.

    They need to figure out a connector or usb drive to allow xbox one to pick up the xbox 360 in the home and share xbox gold memberships through this without the need for all to purchase. Like the xbox one sees the 360 in the same home and it can allow it or something.

    Xbox acts like the one is so freaking great, advance, and well thought out but there is so many things wrong and we dont even have it yet.

    • roozbeh, again

      i believe its xbox one only. possibly though these policies will come to the 360 as well

 
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