October 5th 2013 11:23 am PT

Want to learn more about the design philosophy behind Xbox One?

Digital Foundry has posted an 8000+ word interview with Xbox One engineers Andrew Goossen (software) and Nick Baker (Hardware) that gives a little background on the approach the team took to building Xbox One. If you want to learn more about what is under the hood, give it a read:

Digital Foundry: the complete Xbox One architects interview

 
 

Xbox One By Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson

  • evilfangs .

    Holy hell, 8000+ word interview, going to take me a while to read though all of this.

  • GmailIsDown

    it seems that both consoles are already struggling to meet the level of computing power gamers expect and demand from a next-gen console. can these really last 10 years?

    • Scazza

      When the xbox360 came out, it was already using a gpu from almost 2 years earlier, and had the raw computing power of an ancient pc. Don’t under estimate the power of not having to run a sluggish OS, or having software designed with only one piece of hardware in mind.

      • arrow2010

        Yeah now XBone is running a triple OS, like that isn’t going to cause everything to be laggy and slow.

        • MaximMillion

          From the demos it appears to be a very fast UI experience. The OS’s are optimized, you realize?
          We’ll see at launch, but already from what we’ve seen “laggy and slow” isn’t accurate.

        • JohnnyAppleseed

          Has three OS’s != Running three OS’s at once.

        • Corellianrogue

          It’s the complete opposite actually, separating the OS into 3 that run simultaneously allows features to run more smoothly as the games and apps run on a different dedicated OS.

        • Xhawk27

          The PS4 is running a dual OS.

          • Corellianrogue

            Really? I thought the PS4 just had a multitasking OS like the Xbox 360’s? Then again I haven’t really read much about it, that’s just what I have read in comments before.

      • Dylan

        I think the Blade design worked a lot faster than the metro one we have today.

        Or I just have rose tinted glasses in regards to the blade system.

        Anyway, the biggest thing of this gen is the memory of course. Hopefully all three operating systems doesn’t bog it down.

        • usrev

          Blades were a lot faster but with the extra ram and more power the xbone will probably be faster even with metro.

      • Xhawk27

        No it wasn’t. It was using state of the art GPU using unified shaders that were not been using at the time on on PC.

      • ronas

        You are seriously confused Scazza. It was the PS3 that had a graphics chip that was behind the current technology on its release. The Xbox 360 chip was ahead of the PC graphics when it was released, and even ATI had discussed how they put the ‘next version’ of technology into the Xbox 360 before they released it into the PC cards, which they did shortly after. Please stop showing your fanboyism and console hatred and just enjoy the games.

      • Dasoulink

        Agreed

    • Volitar Prime

      I think it is rather sad that neither “next gen” console can render all the games for them at 1080p (or higher). One would think that would be a given these days, especially when 4k UHD TV is on the way to becoming the next standard.

      • usrev

        4k is no where near standard. maybe in 5-6 years it will be. and by then next next gen will be announced.

        • beardyman3218

          I think it may be even longer than that, the majority of tv channels are still only broadcasting sd and the ones broadcasting hd are only 720p, the only source of 1080p for movies is blu rays and netflix now offers it, it useless for now. I just hope when it does become standard its a blu ray format that only requires a firmware update for current blu ray players.

      • Jack Davidson

        4k is going to go the way of the HD DVD, its a thing hipsters think will be popular.

        OLED is whats going to be big next, we dont need more pixels, we need more vibrant colors.

  • Sledg

    I can sum it up for you. Both systems are designed differently and we’ll see which one is better at launch and the years to come.

    • Volitar Prime

      While they are not identical they are closer to each other than any previous generation’s competitors.

  • The Yankee

    Can’t wait …I’m playing all the games I bought and never finished…assassin creed revelations…splinter cell…Halo 4….Alice returns…GTA 4..(finished 5 lol)…only a small sum…also most times GameStop seems to cheat people out of money…I have to say I traded in and old white 360…original DS…a spare 3DS I had…a PSP Go…and about 120 games ranging from all systems…paid for my Xbox one…BF4 and a spare controller… WHAT!!!

    • Dylan

      Gotta say, Revelations is mostly a waste of time. The 3D tech in it is neat, the Altair sections are awesome, but everything else (except for the ending) is largely not important.

      • The Yankee

        I agree with you I HATE THAT DEFEND YOUR CASTLE mini game..ughh!!

      • roozbeh, again

        Istanbul and cappadocia were beautiful though

      • ElektroDragon

        Revelations was fantastic, my favorite AC of the bunch.

        • Dylan

          Yeah, I completely disagree. Thought it was a completely non sequential part of the series and totally meant nothing in the overall story arc. I was completely bored by the Ezio story, none of the characters were memorable (I can’t even name one).

          That said, the Altair moments were great. Brotherhood remains my favorite overall game in the series.

          • Jack Davidson

            you named ezio…sooo you can name one!

          • Dylan

            touché!

          • Jack Davidson

            to be fair, Leonardo Di Vinci was pretty interesting in it but yeah I see where your coming from. Brotherhood was amazing, I also hated the dull colors for the assassin robes, I understand that bright red and black are not very sneaky… but its a video game :P

          • Dylan

            I don’t think Di Vinci was even in Revelations.

          • Jack Davidson

            I could have sworn he was :/ wasnt he the pre-order bonus his DLC?

  • arrow2010

    Looks like MS in in full panic mode.

    • The Yankee

      How so?

    • Sledg

      Looks like the usual troll comment by arrow.

    • MaximMillion

      *is in

      And I’m interested to know how exactly you arrived at that conclusion. Post an interview about design and that’s “panic mode?” Lol. Be grateful we’re getting so much information… $0n¥ posts almost no data like this.
      C’mon, admit it, you’re just derp-trolling :D

      • evilfangs .

        It’s Sony, not $0n¥, you just make yourself look as bad as them Sony fanboy’s who call the Xbox one “Xbone”.

        • Dylan

          The true comparison is M$ and $on¥.

          Xbone is a name used by a lot of people, not just fanboys. It’s really the only effective shorthand term, as X-1 means a lot of different products.
          As much as Major Nelson doesn’t like it, it’s the most used shorthand name for it.

          • GmailIsDown

            Xbox One = XB1
            Xbox = XBO

          • Does Not Equal

            XBO is Xbox One, though. Original is Xbox.

          • evilfangs .

            I don’t understand, if you wanted to shorten the console name you would use 3 letters like almost every console has used?

            NES / PS1 / PS2 / PS3 / 360 / PS4 / XB1.

            People calling it “Xbone” aren’t saying X B one they’re saying X bone, which isn’t it’s name.

          • Guest

            X1 is a device from comcast. it’s sorta like a xbox one, without games. you can’t call it the x1.

          • Volitar Prime

            Whomever came up with the name “Xbox One” should have anticipated “XBOne”. IMOH, “Xbox One” is a terrible name and “XBOne” will stick around.

          • MaximMillion

            I like the name X-Bone, or cross bone. Sounds bad @$$. Aarrr.

          • roozbeh, again

            What about VALV€ and NINT€NDO? ;D

        • usrev

          well it can’t be x1, as that is trademarked by comcast.

          xbox one is a long write.

          xbone is short sweet and to the point.

          • evilfangs .

            XB1.

            Just like every other 3 letter named console I have already listed.

            NES / PS1 / PS2 / PS3 / 360 / PS4 / XB1.

          • Volitar Prime

            SNES

        • Death Dealer

          No dollars and no Yen. That’s $0N¥ alright.

    • Nick Peck

      Yup, full panic mode when places ask them to do interviews for them, then they talk about their product…. moron.

    • Guest

      More like you and the rest of the $0N¥ Paupers that need to comment here like a bunch of braindead lemmings.

  • Rafik Bouchaala

    I remember when the ps3 came out, every one was hyping it on the internet. when ever I go I see news, articles and everything related to video games filled with comments praising the ps3.
    But we already saw this pas 7-8 years that the xbox 360 was the better console. Sometimes I believe that sony is paying some staff just to fill every website with pro-PlayStation comments and bash the other consoles. The hate toward xbox one is unbelievable!

    • Dylan

      You’re remembering it wrong. It was completely the opposite. That’s like saying “Steam was beloved and was a huge hit when it came out”

      PS3 was a huge joke back then, the price tag, “get a second job”, “giant enemy crab for massive damage, this is based on real history”, “RIIIIIIDGE RACER”.

      The whole E3 2006 was a complete joke, and the PS3 was the punchline. The PS3 didn’t come into it’s own until a few years ago, and the sales numbers improved because of that.

      • Rafik Bouchaala

        Maybe we were visiting different websites back then. I swear that on every single piece of news I saw a bunch of comments talking about the blu ray, the cell processor, the six axis crap and how the ps3 is more powerful.

        • MaximMillion

          Before the PS3 released, yes, this was the case. Sony hyped it up, slandered the competition, and said a whole bunch of things that never eventuated – much like a bad politician.
          Then after it released it was indeed a joke, for the reasons @disqus_AV4tKxPyb9:disqus mentioned above (I loled!) and more… It took almost 4 years for Sony to snap out of it and start producing titles that made people want the PS3.

      • usrev

        I remember everyone I knew made fun of the ps3 for a few years. it wasn’t until around 2009/2010 that people started looking at it seriously.

    • GmailIsDown

      PS3 never recovered until recently. for this gen it seems the roles are reversed.

      • Jack Davidson

        Xbox has gone downhill in the past 4 years, BADLY, the quality of their games, and updates are just awful lately, Did you play gears of war judgement? I beat it in 3 hours, and then the multiplayer was HORRID cog vs cog… WTF… I would understand if the story was about cogs fighting other cogs… but it wasnt…

        it was just a bad game.

        Halo 4…. Ruined the entire series for me, then again so did REACH.

        Forza I haven’t played since forza 2 since there have always been better racing games out there and readily available, Burnout, Need For Speed, etc(I dont like Gran Turismo either) I wish a new test drive would come out :P

        But Microsoft has PISSED ME OFF… they own the rights to the greatest game ever made, conkers bad fur day, and still haven’t either put it in their digital library(un-censored only please), nor have they made a sequel.

        Also they ruined Banjo Kazooie.

        Kinect games all blow, than again so does all motion gaming pretty much.

        I remember when the original xbox came out and they have new and great franchises, such as Fable, Halo, Forza, Panzer Dragon, Voodoo Vince, Dr Muto, Brute Force, and several others.

        The 360, and microsofts bad decisions have ruined them, I cant even turn my box on without some stupid advertisement playing…

        And on top of all this they force a camera into my house and sign with the NSA!!

        • MaximMillion

          I think you’re a PS fanboy desperately trying to swing votes. Guess what? You’re not convincing anyone.

          Sign with NSA? Lol! MS sued the NSA to try and stop data collection. Do some research before you post so you don’t sound like too much of a derp face.

    • usrev

      the $600 price is the reason the ps3 didn’t take off until a few years ago. now that the ps3 is cheaper on about the same as the 360 it’s been doing pretty well.

      if the ps3 was $400 at launch and had a few more good exclusives around launch the 360 would have been a joke this gen. the 360’s best years were the starting first 3 years or so. then it just… died. it was like MS said “we are ahead. lets stop doing everything that makes people want our console” and did nothing but throw us a halo every once in a while.

      before the ps3 game out it was a joke. $600? yea right. it had almost no good games until around 2009 (which was about when MS quit caring). for the consumer the easy choice was xbox. the ps3 was more powerful but it was so hard to utilize that power that we didn’t see it for years.

      the roles are reversed now. MS has the over priced console. Sony has the games. and it isn’t just kids buying the ps4, most games will be choosing ps4 simply because MS quit halfway through this gen while sony did not. the list of sony exclusives is staggering. not to mention PSN+.. which is probably the best bang for your buck in gaming since the PS1’s $300 price tag.

      • roozbeh, again

        Wrll other than the terrible PR and the alien cell which made all multiplatforms better on the 360 to this day sony’s real problem was one thing, arrogance.

        • usrev

          and now MS is the arrogant one, also there are plenty of multiplats that are better or not really different on ps3, it just took a few years before it became like that.

      • MaximMillion

        Sony’s list of exclusive is hardly ‘staggering’ IMO… The reason I opted for the X1 is because of the better quality games, rather than the sheer number of them. Most of the PS4’s lineup and indie games, which are fine, but I can play those sorts of games pretty much anywhere. As of right now there’s not really any game on PS4 I really want. However, the X1 has me sold with Titanfall, Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, Quantum Break and Project Spark. Ryse looks pretty cool too.

        I would agree that a lot of people are switching because of MS’s poor support for 360 exclusives over the last few years. But I think they’re back on track now.

        • usrev

          titanfall and project spark look great but the rest looks kinda meh compared to the ps3 game list. if you go to the “list of ps4 games” and “list of xbox one games” on wikipedia you will see ps4 has roughly 2 times more games announced than xbox one and many of those titles are unique or high quality titles. planetside 2 for instance could be huge if it gets some marketing. it’s a large scale FPS with hundres, maybe thousands of players on one massive battlefield.

          • MaximMillion

            Well that’s your opinion, and as I stated above, those games I mentioned are my preference, IMO. I have indeed checked out the games lists for the launch window of both consoles (sometime ago), and the PS4’s list is made of of dozens of indie games and a lot of old games bought over from PC. Hardly unique or high quality, lol. Perhaps fun for a while, that’s all. And you can get free indie games on your PC anyway, if you want them.

            Planetside 2 is an Ok game, though it’s old. I’ve played it on my friend’s PC, but thousands of players on a battlefield doesn’t necessarily make for a good game. It’s no system seller that’s for sure. And that’s what I mean… which titles on PS4 make me want to buy it? So far, none. Quantity does not mean quality. Order 1886 looks interesting, I’ll keep an eye on it. In constrast, Titanfall is clearly the standout game this launch cycle. It’s unique, fun, plays well, and everyone who’s played it says it’s great. I’ve been waiting for a new KI for years so I was on board for that pretty quickly. And Project Spark basically let’s you create any game you want. On top of that, ALL X1 games have dedicated servers. For multiplayer gamers that itself is a huge selling point.
            So yeeeeah I’m X1 all the way.

          • Jack Davidson

            Titanfall looks like Call of duty with mechs, it looks like mid gen graphics for the xbox 360, Honestly I dont see what the hype is, than again I have played a lot of games with the same premise… Robotech, Halo 4(one of the worst in the series), Mechwarrior, starhawk etc. it just doesnt look appealing to me.

            Sunset Overdrive tood out.

            As for Killer Instinct, EVERY developer from the original team have dissed it and called it complete garbage. as have many fighting game communities that have gotten their hands on it.

          • Jeremy Mattsen

            Yes and I was done with it a month after it came out on PC.

      • Dasoulink

        These Sony games you are speaking of what titles are you referring to?

        • usrev

          too many to count honestly. basically, for every decent series xbox has sony has 3 separate IPs on ps3.

          off the top of my head though, uncharted, resistance, killzone, ratchet and clank, and little big planet series were pretty big. not to mention the last of us which came out this year and Beyond 2 souls which just came out/comes out soon. Sony has had a lot of good games come out every year since about 2 years after the system came out.

          • Dasoulink

            Oh ok I am mistaken I thought you were referring to next gen. I personally think the X1 launch titles are pretty good.

          • usrev

            the xbone launch titles are ok, but other than project spark nothing is exclusive and a system seller.

            the ps4 game list is massive, it isn’t even out yet and there are over 120 games confirmed for the system 20 or o being full exclusive and like 30 being console exclusives.

          • Jeremy Mattsen

            I believe they were mentioning launch games and exclusives. You seem to have missed Ryse, Forza 5, Killer Instinct, Zoo Tycoon, Fighter Within, Crimson Dragon, Lococycle and Dead Rising 3. I am sure just an oversight on your part.

          • Jack Davidson

            TO BE FAIR, dead rising 1 and 2 was sub par, forza is a good series, Killer Instince has been hated on by all the original makers who have talked about it, Zoo tycoon?, Crimson dragon is a game that was announced when the xbox 360 first launched, so its a 360 game that was delayed for teh xbox one…., and ryse looks like QTE

            THOUGH I WILL ADMIT, that sunset overdrive looks pretty fun.

          • MaximMillion

            To be fair?
            (Proceeds to dis almost all X1 launch IPs)
            Ha-ha-hardly.

    • GmailIsDown

      i agree. no matter how good your console might be compared to PS4, the bottom line is it is $100 more expensive! and even for a parent who has motion gaming in mind, buying a $400 PS4 and a $60 PS4 camera is still cheaper than a $500 Xbox One. (you won’t need PS Move to play games like Just Dance 2014 on PS4. it will just work like Kinect.)

    • Death Dealer

      Indeed, if there is anything stopping the Xbox One from succeeding, it will be price (and content if MS doesn’t keep up in the long run).

    • slasaru

      They will ask the president to put veto on playstation so that only xbox sales. Apple did this with Samsung ))

    • ungeheier

      It happened with PS2 vs Dreamcast. PS2 won that round. They tried it for PS3… well… And now the PS4…

      • roozbeh, again

        Their winning again.

        • ungeheier

          The internet hive-mind maybe…

  • Xhawk27

    I don’t know who is in charge at Microsoft but it seems to me that everything that made the 360 great they threw out the window when they designed the Xbox One. Even the new Controller seems to have problems with some people complaining about the triggers and how they is no space between the top buttons.

    • Corellianrogue

      From my experience with the Xbox One joypads at Eurogamer Expo they were awesome! They “feel” really nice, it’s hard to explain, you’ll just have to try them yourself and you should understand what I mean.

      • Xhawk27

        Really I have heard from people who loved the 360 controllers saying they had problems with the new X1 controllers. I haven’t used any yet so I can’t compare them still I don’t know why they made the top buttons so different.

        • Corellianrogue

          I don’t think I got to use the shoulder buttons but I didn’t accidently hit them or anything like that while playing. I haven’t heard anybody else have any problems with the Xbox One joypad other than that guy they claimed it injured his thumbs, lol! (I seriously doubt that, especially after trying the joypad myself.)

          • Xhawk27

            I didn’t hear about that. lol Yeah I can’t wait until Gamestop has a demo unit to try the X1 Controller.

        • Jeremy Mattsen

          When I tried at E3 I was so worried because of the changes they mentioned. In my mind the 360 controller is the best designed one ever made. However, once I got my hands on it the changes they made are subtle but welcome. It feels familiar but upgraded at the same time.

  • Corellianrogue

    By the way, where are you getting your pre-order data from? Xbox One pre-orders are constantly getting sold out everywhere.

    • arrow2010

      Just pay attention to which company is putting out desperate media releases.

      • Corellianrogue

        Every company puts out media releases everyday. It’s you that seems desperate, lol! Also you never answered the pre-order question. Here’s an excerpt from a recent news article (not a press release from Microsoft) about Xbox One pre-orders in the USA:

        “Microsoft’s Xbox One Day One edition and standard edition console are officially sold out everywhere, so gamers may not be able to get their hands on the new console until December.

        States Chronicle reported on rumors that the second batch of consoles may not be ready until Dec. 31.

        The Day One edition will include the Kinect sensor, chat headset, HDMI cable, Xbox One controller with a special monogram, and a special Day One achievement on the Xbox One itself for $499.

        The standard console with include all of that minus the monogram and achievement for the same price.

        Large electronic retailers such as Best Buy, Toys R’ Us, Gamestop, and even Microsoft’s own site are not even offering pre-orders at this time.

        Microsoft previously cut the number of countries they were launching the console on in order to combat shortages, but the demand was still too high.”

        • Jack Davidson

          Sony allowed an estimated 4x more console pre-orders then xbox did…

      • MaximMillion

        Explain how these press releases are ‘desperate?’

  • Nathanzz

    At the end of the day, the proof is in the pudding. The question is, how do the games compare? Until we see them in person, side-by-side, everything is theoretical.

  • roozbeh, again

    I read on digital foundry and honestly, it just seems so confusing.

    • Sledg

      If you’re an Xbox fan, it’s all good.

  • Master Troll

    Read this on euro gamer the other day good article

  • MaximMillion

    Those figures are wildly inaccurate. Source them if you want anyone to take you seriously… If you can’t source them, I will designate you as ‘full of sh!t.’

  • Nic727

    Why everyone have the same Xbox One profile picture? Can we put it on you Xbox 360 GT profile picture?
    thx

    • roozbeh, again

      I feel stupid for asking this but, do I have one? (serious question here)

      • EighteenCharacters

        It looks like you have a generic avatar pic.

        • roozbeh, again

          Ah good, wouldn’t want those stupid pics you freaks use
          /sarcasm

    • evilfangs .

      It’s just the default picture.

  • evilfangs .

    From the leaked footage of the Xbox one dashboard it seemed fast and smooth and that couldn’t have been a final product.

  • usrev

    oh geez I’l read this later and try and post a tl;dr since for the most part I understand the gibberish.

    • Guest

      Nobody here cares about your PoS fan posts, so don’t een bother and just go back to PSLS.

  • roozbeh, again

    Honestly, coming from an xbox fan with a preorder, it’s a load of bull.

    • Nick Peck

      So the tech that’s in the system really isn’t there and they are just making it up? Ok, good one lol.

      • roozbeh, again

        No but lines saying less CUs are better are honestly stupid.
        I don’t care about the power inside the console as it is sufficient but that sentence really was stupid.
        Also what do they mean about “balance”?

        • robo

          I guess you didn’t read what they actually said about upping the speed. It improves the performance of more than just the gpu. They tested speed boost vs upping cu’s with launch titles

        • Chuck

          they didn’t say less CUs were better, they said more CUs didn’t add anything due to other bottlenecks. In other words adding CUs would have increased price but gave no game improvements.

        • beardyman3218

          By balance they mean all components working together seamlessly not just thrown in for the sake of raw power. Think of it like two cars, on paper one has more horsepower than the other, the car with less horsepower will win if it has components that work together extremely well, the car with more horsepower might have components that dont work well together causing it to lose the race.

  • Lnin0

    Did the designers consider people with large soundbars in front of their slim bezel TVs and where that Kinect 2.0 is going to fit?

    • GmailIsDown

      just mount it on the wall

    • Volitar Prime

      I think a lot of people are just going to keep the Kinect in the box so it won’t be a problem.

      • roozbeh, again

        Don’t mix the gamer majority with the mainstream

      • Tomo

        A lot of people? Only a complete idiot who has no life, enthusiasm or interests would “leave” it in the box. Why would they just leave it there and not even try such a piece of advanced, innovative technology?

        • Volitar Prime

          A lot of people are just not that interested in dance, fitness, and run around the room “sports” mini-games. These are what the Kinect works best with but they are not for everyone.

          Sure, it is advanced and innovative technology, but many gamers they just don’t need it to play CoD, Forza, Halo, Titanfall, or BF4.

          MS has yet to demonstrate a “killer app” for the Kinect 2.

          I have yet to see a “normal” game be “better with Kinect”. I have always found that instead of yelling at the Kinect in order to throw a grenade it is just easier to press a button on the controller. Same with using it to navigate the system menu. Instead of waving my hands around and/or yelling at it I find using a controller or IR remote control to just work better.

          This is why so many people have been asking for a release without the packed in Kinect 2. Why pay $100+ for something they don’t want to use?

          • Tomo

            One feature I liked that they demonstrated in a shooter with Kinect 2 was tapping your forehead to turn on your visor. This frees up more buttons on the controller, and in my opinion is actually better. Kinect 2 is so accurate that it would be just as reliable as a button also.

            Some of the other features such as recognising the players/profiles of people, signing them in, using all of their settings, etc. and knowing who has the controller and all that. Them features are so efficient, and people who use Kinect will get so used to it that it’ll be annoying when they play a console without Kinect. Voice and motion navigation also make things easier, especially when watching a movie or something when you can’t find the remote. Kinect is so expensive, innovative and accurate, that it will work consistently (I’m assuming). There’re tonnes of little features that make Kinect great. Not to mention all the possibilities with games.

            MAYBE NOT THE EXTRA €100, but it doesn’t deserve all the hate is getting. I think it’s excellent value for someone who is open to having Kinect. If Microsoft made the console €450, nobody should be complaining.

          • Volitar Prime

            While the idea of tapping your forehead to turn on your visor is an unique and innovative idea it involves removing your hand from the controller to do so. This just might not be practical for everyone. In the heat of the action it would be so much quicker and easier to just leave your hands on the controller and press a button. This way your hands are still where there need to be so that you can perform other quick actions as needed.

        • ZaFuuru

          You don’t know what you’re talking about, you sound like you started gaming yesterday

    • Jeremy Mattsen

      I used a Kinect clip that fits on top of the tv. I would assume there will be an option as well for the Kinect 2.0

    • Chuck

      there is a kinect stand.

  • Kinectamaniac

    How about a little philosophy about making digital copies of Xbox One titles available for pre-order so people that want to buy digital versions can get in on pre-order bonuses?

    • Nathanzz

      Sounds like you won’t have to pre-order. Just purchase and download within a launch window, and you’ll get the digital goodies.

      • GmailIsDown

        not for retailer exclusive bonuses though. i hope they will have their own digital exclusive bonuses.

        • Massamo

          they have said that day one downloads will come with the preorder goodies for limited time

          • Nick Peck

            From MS or the games developers, not store specific bonuses though. However, GS is now letting you buy download codes for specific games, so I’m starting to wonder if all retailers will do this route so that way digital buyers will still get the incentives.

          • beardyman3218

            I believe it is if you buy the digital version within the first week of release.

        • Death Dealer

          HELL NO!
          That exclusive preorder BS needs to stop with digital as there is no more use for it.

        • beardyman3218

          Thats down to publishers not ms, the publisher makes a deal with retailers all ms can do is ask for the content to be part of the digital release.

      • Kinectamaniac

        Doesn’t help with games like Destiny. You have to pre-order to get in on the Beta. If I have to wait until the game releases to buy, that pretty much leaves me out of the Beta.

  • Dasoulink

    Please provide proof of your numbers

  • http://matejgottwald.wordpress.com/ Matěj Gottwald

    I have read the whole article, even though I couldn’t understand some chip architecture terms, it’s given me a lot of very interresting facts. Microsoft keeps convincing me that Xbox One is a real innovation with a lot of talented people thinking about many clever improvements – sorry guys, you don’t have to agree with me, but for me personally, more raw power doesn’t equal innovation.
    Yes, Xbox One is less powerfull than PS4 (in terms of GPU performance), though the difference definitely won’t be that siginificant. But there are two very interresting ideas the Xbox One team has come up with:
    1) Each game has its own OS. That is a great feature. As far as I understand, every developer will be then able to fit the OS to their needs. They can modify the OS to directly fit to their engines. And that is a great thing!
    2) The Xbox One is able to change image (not screen) resolution on the fly. So it means no more frame drops if the scene is too complex (for example multiplayer – we all know that; moreover in these cases FPS is much more important that 1080p or 900p).
    Keep up the great work, looking forward to receiving my Xbox One! :-)

  • Swat

    Cool gibberish bro.

    • roozbeh, again

      I disagree with you most of the time but I guess I agree about this one

  • http://deulus.com/ Derek D

    I have flip flopped a thousand times sense E3 as to which console I am going to get, but as of right now im going with Xbox One. The problem is i really don’t have launch title I’m dying to play, (on either platform). So any suggestions? I was thinking COD Ghosts as you really cannot go wrong with COD but i’m still not really hyped. :(

    • Jack Davidson

      if you really thinkg you cant go wrong with CoD, please go to xbox…

      • roozbeh, again

        More preorders on PS4 buddy, some of the positive effects of a higher price points.

        • Jack Davidson

          4x as many pre-orders for ps4 consoles….

          • roozbeh, again

            I’m talking about the preorders of COD ghosts on PS4.

            Good luck with them 12 year olds.

    • Jeremy Mattsen

      I am having a hard time deciding which ones to buy Derek but that’s because there are so many launch titles lol. I am leaning towards Ryse, Watchdogs and Dead Rising 3 as the first 3 I buy at launch. Shortly after that though, I still want AC: IV, BF 4, possibly Ghosts, Madden and Forza 5. Just too many options. Not a bad problem to have though. :)

    • roozbeh, again

      Dead rising 3 from the top of my mind right now, BF4 will be great too.
      COD? :/

    • roozbeh, again

      Will this be the last time you change your mind?

      • http://deulus.com/ Derek D

        I would like to hope so. As long as Microsoft doesn’t shoot itself in the foot anymore. The process goes like this. I read gaming news and see Microsoft pull some bad PR. I get angry and run to Sony. Then when I hop into my 360 later that night, all the hate goes away and I remember what I love about my Xbox and I run back.

        • roozbeh, again

          #firstworldproblems

        • roozbeh, again

          Best response would probably be to get off the Internet for a while though

    • evilfangs .

      PS4 has no launch titles to offer for me, which is why I’m buying one in two years and buying a Xbox at launch.

      My games I’ll be buying within the first 6 months will be Dead Rising 3 / Ryse / AC4 / Watch dogs / Ghosts and maybe Forza 5.

      Then later in the year, Destiny / Titanfall / The Division / Quantum Break / Witcher 3 / Fable Legends and once I’ve seen more maybe Sunset Overdrive.

      Midnight launch will be day one Xbox one with Fifa free and I’ll be picking up AC4 and Dead rising 3.

  • Guest

    Still need to drop that NSA Kinect most ain’t going to plug it in

    • roozbeh, again

      NSA kinect. lol

    • evilfangs .

      You do realize even though you’re hiding behide a “guest” account your ISP is tracking your every move online via your IP address. Major Nelson more then like can see your IP address and could if he wanted find out anything and everything about you right?

      You more then likely have a smart phone which is tracked every day via GPS.

      • Dennis Fluttershy

        The IP address will only go to the ISP, but with the correct port and table from the ISP, you know who it is.

        Also, the GPS in the phone drains lots of battery, so it’s rarely activated. Like I’ve done, turned mine off completely (it’s actually broken somehow <.<).

        • evilfangs .

          That’s your own personal GPS. There is a private GPS which can’t be turned off and is automatically activated without he owners knowledge by your phone provider.

    • Nathanzz

      I’ll plug it in if they sell an extension cord for it. The included cable isn’t long enough to reach from my AV cabinet to my TV.

  • roozbeh, again

    The architecture at least is a bonaire like a 7790, but add a few customization and the ESRAM cache and you might get some awesome results

  • roozbeh, again

    Microsoft, you got rid of mattrick, now lose Mehdi. I beg of you. Lose that idiot before he yabs about more ads

    • Sledg

      You believed the fake story that was just looking for clicks?
      :)

      • roozbeh, again

        It was true though.
        But his comments were stupid either way

    • beardyman3218

      Why?

      • roozbeh, again

        He seems so, out of touch. and he really doesn’t say the right things.
        The potential for ads being one of those many things.
        I think he is the one making games seem like less of a priority to the public and as a marketing guy he should do much better than that or he should get the boot

        • beardyman3218

          I agree hopefully the changes at microsoft are having an effect on other employees, he may be head of marketing but there is always someone above him giving him the go ahead.

  • roozbeh, again

    http://www vg247 com/2013/10/07/xbox-one-dvr-automatically-records-gameplay-when-an-achievement-is-unlocked-report/
    Best kinect feature ever!

    • Xboner2013

      wow.

      Reminds me of all the family videos people always want me to watch. No thanks.

      Look guys, you can watch me play a game. We live in a strange world.

      • roozbeh, again

        I beg to differ, being able to look at myself when I got a hard achievement is actually quite a good idea.

        • Sledg

          lol, it records gameplay not you!

          • roozbeh, again

            Maybe should have worded it better. Myself implies my gameplay

          • Xboner2013

            Who cares either way. Look guys, you can come and look at my toilet flush stats.

            Geez, MS should really think about what they are wasting their time on.

          • Sledg

            Again, it’s all about you! It’s always about you! You must be a very lonely kid.

          • beardyman3218

            Wouldnt say their wasting their time it probably took them 10 minutes to code this feature but i would like the option to turn this off, i dont feel the need to broadcast everything i do.

        • fastharryDOTcom

          if you like to look at yourself when you get a “hard” achievement..you have other issues..

          • roozbeh, again

            Memories of what I wasted my time on are fun for me.

          • fastharryDOTcom

            ok..I’ll drink to that, lol

    • beardyman3218

      I hope we can choose to turn this off, it would be too distracting for me like some watching you over your shoulder.

  • jon

    I know this is off topic but
    what is the avatar outfit that major has (its the white space suite
    version above) can someones let me know i wanna get one..

    • Death Dealer

      MTV VMA Moonman Suit.

      • jon

        Thank you Death Dealer really appreciate this. :-)

  • Death Dealer

    Probably to get higher chip yields and leave them for redundancy if one CU fails.

    • Robert Malsom

      Why not 1 extra CU? Even the tech in the article expressed that a very small group of games are ROP bound on the xbox One. So the extra CU might help in that area for those small percentages of games. But as you say, I feel that you might be right and that the extra CU’s was never really an option.

  • Sledg

    “Somehow, your hardware developers missed the boat”

    Really? Do you have proof other than the garbage that people keep posting or referencing from months ago. What bothers me the most is that people don’t have proof yet of how the finished product performs but yet they keep making claims of bad design. If you don’t have faith then why not wait until after launch and see how it performs. I think people are going to be very surprised.

  • JohnnyAppleseed

    “Too bad 80% of other developers, will not ever put forth the effort to learn and use it correctly.” If developers could deal with the PS3’s processor, and they did. I think they can handle a little ram.

  • beardyman3218

    Can we turn off the dvr function on xbox one, don’t want it to record my gameplay all the time as the thought of it would put me off my games. It’s like someone watching you over your shoulder :)

    • roozbeh, again

      I’m sorry dave…

      • beardyman3218

        Who is Dave?

        • roozbeh, again

          Didn’t see the movie huh?

          Tip: Why do they jokingly call the kinect HAL?

    • Lucas Sanches Cestari

      wait… the xbox one store your gameplays on your HD even if you don’t want it?

      • beardyman3218

        They haven’t stated whether it can be turned off thats whats worrying me, I hope there is an option to turn it off, hopefully major can answer this question.

    • roozbeh, again

      Eurogamer just posted an article about it, so you might want to look it up.

      I’m to lazy to put links.

      • beardyman3218

        Just read the article it still doesnt mention whether it can be turned off all together by the user, hopefully major nelson knows more about this “hint, hint” :)

  • beardyman3218

    Sony have just thrown in components with raw power, microsoft have gone for architecture over raw power you can build a better computer with parts that work well together than one that just aims for power with any component thrown in, ms are a software company and i guarantee we will see more innovation from xbox one the we do from ps4, it is essentially just an upgraded ps3. I believe each developer can program their own os for a game to run on for xbox one which is a huge deal.

  • Dennis Crosby

    So much hate goes toward the xboxone because of these anonymous source that have no proof of what there saying

  • evilfangs .

    Off-topic: So Xbox rewards has stopped giving us 2-4% rebate on our birthday month now?

    All we get now is some stupid picture of a cake which we can cut out?

    How much £ are credits worth now anyway?

    • roozbeh, again

      5000 credits= $5

  • Sledg

    Hey Larry, what ever happened to that video(s) you were making a couple weeks ago?

  • Scott Daylor

    As much as I want to play many of the great XBox One exclusives, im going to hold out until they come out with a console that doesn’t force the NSA/ advertisement spyware on me. Seeing as the system isn’t as powerful as the PS4, they could have easily sold it for $350 without an expensive add-on that most people don’t even want. As much as I love my 360 and original XBox, I can’t help but feel Microsoft screwed the One up in nearly every way they could. They also did massive damage to the XBox name that will take a long time to fix.

 
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