October 15th 2013 9:00 am PT

Xbox One Racing Accessories Video

I sat down with the Branden Powell,  Director of Strategic alliances on the Xbox One partner development team to learn more about racing accessories coming to Xbox One.

Xbox One By Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson

  • Arminator

    Customizable controllers? I’m very interested how this will work. It’d be extremely cool to have a H-style stickshift for classic cars in Forza and sequential shifting for modern performance cars.

    While I’m sad, that my original Xbox 360 wireless steering wheel won’t work on the One, this makes me happy (and my wallet *very* sad)…

  • mcmax3000

    I’ve never really done the wheel thing, but after playing Forza 5 with one at PAX, I’m kind of considering trying one out, so this video was very informative.

  • Arminator

    Do the “blinkenlights” on the soundbar serve any gameplay purpose? Like flashing police lights, or the LEDs changing color depending on the motor’s RPM’s?

  • Avatar Roku

    Wish Xbox would make it’s own soundbars and speakers.

  • http://www.yakkowarner.com/ Yakko Warner

    I have the 360′s wireless wheel, and while it’s great, I just didn’t use it enough to justify the cost. Guess I’m just not a “hardcore” racer.

  • Jeremy Anderson

    Guess that means support for the existing Fanatec wheels is out, huh?

  • erale

    Yay, no Fanatac -> no Forza for me then. Crappy move Microsoft…

  • ungeheier

    When did Mad Cats start making good accessories?

    • FourthStooge

      About 5 years ago.

      • ungeheier

        Interesting. Their brand has been ruined in my mind from years of gaming. I’ll have to check out their new stuff.

    • mcmax3000

      Seemed like they started with Fighting Sticks, and slowly improved the rest of their accessories. My only experience with them this generation is the Rock Band 3 keyboard, and it’s pretty well made.

  • bigkid66

    That was not a clear answer at all on whether 360 wheels will work with Xbox One. He mentions the new features won’t work but doesn’t specifically say the old wheels won’t work at all.

    If the Fanatec CSR (branded specifically for Forza 4) doesn’t work then I’m out on Forza 5 and probably Xbox One (at least at launch). Forza 5 was the only launch game I was interested in.

    • Guest

      “Xbox 360 wheels are not compatible with Xbox One”

  • MobileVortex

    no clutch pedal?

  • Jeremy Mattsen

    Man you have been busy Larry lol

  • Trag3dy

    MadCatz… no thanks.

  • krz

    Making my current wheel useless is a dealbreaker.

    • Areen Khachadouri

      good, nobody wants to make a deal with you anyways.

    • Kinectamaniac

      Who says the old wheel is now useless?

      You are gonna blame Xbox, just because you’ve decided to stop using your Xbox 360?

      • Liquidfx Xboxdude

        go back to the cabbage patch.

  • ElektroDragon

    Well it certainly looks realistic, but does anyone really play racing games with these? I’ve never had better luck with these accessories vs a standard controller, and isn’t that the point, to do better? Or is the point to make it feel more real at the cost of doing worse? Because I can’t imagine using these and being better than with a normal controller except through month or years of practice. (Just like learning real driving for the first time.)

    • ryder4life22187

      I used to play with this setup on the playstation 2 playing gran turismo all the time had a blast will def be looking into getting this.

    • GmailIsDown

      so basically it is like playing games with Kinect versus using a standard controller?

  • Jamie Hall

    Seriously….so you don’t believe them when they say things work and you don;t believe them when they say they DONT work. Basically you just want to complain for the sake of it? Why are you wasting your time on here? Go off and do something you actually enjoy. Life is short.

    • bigkid66

      I don’t even know what you’re talking about. That was my first post here ever?? I just registered…nice welcome. I’m not complaining for the “sake of it” but specifically because the expensive wheel I bought for the prior version of Forza won’t work on the new version and I find it hard to believe there’s no way to make it work via USB.

      If you haven’t noticed MS doing a bad job communicating lately and flip-flopping all over the place then you just haven’t been paying attention.

      I do agree it’s a waste of time to post here though.

      • Alex_Atkin_UK

        What idiots are down voting this?

        The wheel is branded Forza and CAN work over USB, so no good reason NOT to have them work on Xbox One except Microsoft greed.

        I don’t spend £250 on a racing wheel to not be able to use it 10 months later. Its pretty simple really, if it doesn’t work I’m forced to move to PS4 where there is a 99% chance it will still work, as Sony have supported PC compatible USB wheels since PS2.

      • Jamie Hall

        Actually since gamescom they have been doing a great job… and the stuff they have put out this week has been brilliant.

        That billboard advertising campaign though… is terrible.

  • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

    I assume you got it working Tom?

  • http://www.theageofknights.com/ NoThru22

    I will “upgrade” to the Xbox One to “downgrade” my racing wheel. Until Fanatec is allowed to have the official Forza 4 wheel work on Xbox One, I am not interested.

  • http://www.theageofknights.com/ NoThru22

    They are specifically BLOCKED from working with the Xbox One because they don’t have an identifier chip inside.

    • Arminator

      Well if *I* were working at Fanatec, I’d modularize the wheel. I mean, it wouldn’t make sense to have expensive mechanics for only one specific console, and scrap everything for another console, especially if such “non console specific” functions like actuators and motors for the force-feedback are the same. I mean, yes, there are differences like a Guide button on Xbox, and PS Button for Playstation and such. But in the end it’s just normal buttons, and it doesn’t matter if I play on PlayStation or Xbox, because the wheel pulls force feedback the same in similar situations. It’s not like I make a left turn on the Xbox or Playstation, and the Xbox pushes the wheel to the right to simulate the steering wheel resisting my turn, and the Playstation pulling the wheel further to the left. Both behave the same.

      For *very* expensive wheels I’d guess they could to an adaptor box that contains the identifier chip, and just relays/translates the input output signals to and from the wheel.

      For example let’s assume the Xbox 360 tells the wheel to “pull on motor 1 and rumble motor 3″, and the wheel tells the console “button 4″ (let’s say “Start”) was pressed.

      On the Xbox one it could be that the console sends the information “Pull motor A, rumble the Right trigger”, and the adaptor box will translate that to “Pull Motor 1, and rumble motor 3″. Then the wheel sends “Button 4 is pressed” and the box translates that to “Menu button was pressed” to the console.

      So I guess specific functions like a rumbling brake pedal from a simulated ABS System like the controller triggers won’t be possible with an expensive Xbox 360 wheel, as the function wasn’t there in the first place. There simply is no motor to rumble the pedal.

      But if a cheap adaptor box is able to translate the ABS rumble to a wheel rumble (or maybe ignore it gracefully), it would allow one to keep the expensive 360 wheel.

      I mean, if I just bought a $300-500 Fanatec wheel, and now learn it’s just scrap metal and plastic with the Xbox One console, I would NOT buy an expensive Fanatec wheel ever again.

      On the other hand, if Fanatec made such an adaptor box, I would know that my wheel is future proof, and if that eventually breaks several years later, I’ll be again buying a Fanatec wheel, as I know it’s well built, and supported in the future.

  • Jo5h01

    whats the turn radius on these wheels? do they do 900 degrees?

  • MobileVortex

    Ohhh rearry?

  • david_hoyland

    Why no gearbox and clutch pedal? I’m not an American!

  • Florida Tryhard

    they didn’t give a price that means its going to cost like $300

  • agentbb007

    Already have my Thrustmaster 458 italia wheel pre-ordered on Amazon. Can’t wait for November!!

  • evilfangs .

    What about other accessories like current gen headsets? Last I heard you was trying to make a adapter for them to work on the Xbox one, is this still the case or do I think to fork out even more money for another headset?

    • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

      turtle beach won’t certainly disapoint their costumer i don’t see why they wouldn’t complete the adapter.

    • mcmax3000

      Well, the system comes with a headset now, so you won’t HAVE to spend more money for another headset.

      Yes, they are still making the adapter, but no information at the moment as to when it will be available.

      • Alex_Atkin_UK

        Not necessarily. I know I have a headset for every person who might use my console but only one of them will use it at a time, so the adapter is useful there.

  • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

    too bad Ubisoft is pushing back release of all the game we were waiting :(

    • evilfangs .

      Yep. I had a £40 deposit down for Watch dogs. Going to use that £40 now to get a different launch day exclusive, not sure what yet. I was getting AC4 / Dead rising 3 and Watch dogs.

    • Kinectamaniac

      GTA V was delayed, and look how great that turned out. I’m sure Ubisoft just wants to make Watch Dogs as good as they can possibly make it. I applaud their decision to keep it in development, rather than release it on Nov 22nd…inferior to what it could be.

      • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

        not sayin game will turn out bad, just saying that it’s unfortunate that it is not ready in time. Watch dog was something i wanted to try, but not as much as the division. Ubisoft Montreal have a very solid background so no doubt it’s going to be nice

  • ryder4life22187

    Halo 3 currently shows up as free already for GWG. Now the B****** for Halo 3 can finally end unless they realize the maps aren’t included.

    • Death Dealer

      Yeah, but somehow I’m getting an 80150017 error when I’m in the same region as my account. Something weird is going on…

      • evilfangs .

        My download won’t even move from “0% complete”

        Speed tests are fine, 10-30 ping / 30-60 download and 15 upload. Yet the download isn’t moving.

    • Liquidfx Xboxdude

      hmmm….I didn’t know you could use a steering wheel for halo 3.

  • tabicat

    I’m very disappointed that there was no discussion of clutches. As far as I’m concerned, no steering wheel can be considered “high end” if it doesn’t have a clutch.

  • Alex_Atkin_UK

    Still can’t believe we are expected to buy a new console, Forza 5 AND a new wheel. Its just unrealistic unless you are SERIOUSLY obsessed with racing games.

    I only bit the bullet to get the Fanatec wheel last christmas so that I could use the same wheel, with full 900 degree steering, on PC, Xbox 360 and PS3. The fact its looking unlikely to work on Xbox One is a big factor in why I decided to go for PS4 first this time around where its highly likely it will still work.

    I understand not making the original Xbox 360 wheel compatible as it was very limited, which is why I wanted the Fanatec in the first place. But its highly unlikely the new Xbox One wheel is better than the Fanatec, so its silly not to make it compatible. Even if we had to buy and upgrade a physical board in our wheels it would be better than having to buy a whole new set.

    • erale

      Well if you’re SERIOUSLY obsessed with racing games you wouldn’t buy a crappy plastic wheel like those shown in the Video. You would also buy a wheel that has also a clutch pedal.
      Also this hasn’t anything to do with the new Features introduced. They could have easily used some sort of legacy mode like everyone does. But it seems getting more Money from Madcatz and Thrustmaster is more important to MS than their loyal fans.
      I’ll still get an Xbox One as it’s not just Forza for me. But I really loved playing Forza with my Turbo S. I bought every Limited Edition that came out and this feels like a kick in the balls to me.
      I know MajorNelson will never answer to postings like mine, probably because he doesn’t give a damn about loyal fans and is ordered to not discuss stuff like this by MS. But this is why it feels like MS doesn’t care at all about its fans.

      • Alex_Atkin_UK

        Do your research, the Fanatec DOES have a clutch pedal but I don’t like it. You need the force feedback clutch (the even higher model) as without that it just feels odd, so much of driving is by feel. Same for the H shifter, I hate it, its too stiff and unrealistic so it takes too long to change gear. In every car I have driven the gear shift is quite loose.

    • Kinectamaniac

      You seem to be under the impression that just because it has the word Xbox on it, they should be able to make it compatible. It doesn’t quite work like that. That would be the same as complaining that the Sega Saturn wheel isn’t compatible with the Xbox One.

      Two different consoles…that internally work differently.

      • Alex_Atkin_UK

        Since they added USB to consoles you are completely wrong there. Sony has supported STANDARD PC WHEELS since PS2. You know, a standard Microsoft more than likely had a hand in but refuses to support on Xbox due to greed.

        They could even have USB wheel support via a chargeable driver download from Xbox Live. It would be a bit cheeky, but at least they would get their precious money that way. The only reason I can think they don’t do that is they don’t want it to be obvious this is all about fleecing their customers.

  • skimi

    Great

  • Kinectamaniac

    Oh man…I love the new wheels! Gonna be hard to choose which one I want. I love that the wheels are larger. To be honest, I didn’t really care for the 360 wheel, because it seemed too small to me. And, I completely understand why the 360 wheel wouldn’t be compatible with the Xbox One.

    Now if only Nov 22nd would get here!!!

    :D

  • Alex_Atkin_UK

    Don’t hold your breath, they never gotten around to making the Xbox 360 Wheel fully compatible with PC, the force feedback never worked.

  • Alex_Atkin_UK

    Depends which version seeing as there was at least three. The initial version with the motor overheating issue (which was recalled and repaired for free), the second with that fixed then the third by Mad Catz.

    I had the first and it was fine but having such limited wheel range got on my nerves not to mention Microsoft not bothering to make the force feedback work on PC. In fact, I still have it here in perfect working order.

  • roozbeh, again

    No clutch, no sale.
    Simple as that

    • Chuck

      If by ‘clutch’ you are talking about a pedal, modern race cars don’t use them. Its all automated these days, drivers just squeeze a paddle in F1, and in NASCAR they only need to use a clutch when coming from a dead stop.

      • roozbeh, again

        I don’t care, I want my clutch.

  • MobileVortex

    LoL, u germans are funny. apparently the conversion of MPH and KPH is hard math for u guys..

  • Liquidfx Xboxdude

    for real. they must be crazy to try and push this mad catz bs. anyone who has ever had anything they make, especially steering wheels, knows what I am talking about. Logitech can make a great product though and I know the ps4 will be compatible that brand so yeah. forza may have to bite it this time around.

  • Liquidfx Xboxdude

    yeah, don’t you love how stupid MS is being with this. this is actually a deal breaker because I am a huge racing fan, forza every day, and this is crazy. I bought that U steering wheel after my xbox steering wheel broke. waste of money and time. I also had a mad catz steering wheel but it was a piece of garbage from day one.

  • Liquidfx Xboxdude

    women drive mostly stick in America chump. greetings from your mom’s house.

  • MobileVortex

    grammar is hard.

  • roozbeh, again

    Tell that to these idiots.

  • M_1

    Tell me Kinect can be used wirelessly and I’ll order three XBones today. Until then, no sale.

  • Alex_Atkin_UK

    All I know is that anything slightly simulation based like Gran Turismo or Forza I did not enjoy playing with a controller. I would have given up with Forza 2 if it wasn’t for getting the official wheel. Thanks to the wheel I ended up getting 3 and 4. Thanks to Forza 4 I found out about the Fanatec and after much soul searching I bought it so I could use it on PC and PS3 too as I hated how cornering was so unrealistic due to the tiny rotation of the Microsoft wheel.

    Forza 5 looks very pretty, but without support for a wheel I have had for less than a year, its a no sale. I’m not entirely sold on Drive Club either, especially with it being delayed, but at least I get a hefty demo version of that due to already having Playstation Plus and its highly likely the wheel is compatible.

  • eXists

    Very disappointing news, I’ve spent over a $1000 on not only a Forza Fanatec CSR but also a Forza Playseat and some custom mods and now you’re telling us you can’t support it because of that plastic junk?!

    What MS needs to remember is that people like us spend big bucks on the Xbox and to replace one of us you need 100s if not 1000s of average gamers who live off a used copy of COD all year long so think about this before shooting yourself in the foot.

    No Forza 5 and Xbox One for my driving setup, will stick with my 360 for now, more lousy decisions and unfortunately PS4 it is.

    My 2 cents (or should I say my 20K+ on my next console investment)

 
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