October 29th 2013 3:11 pm PT

Titanfall is exclusive to Xbox One, Xbox 360 and PC

In case there was any question about it.

Xbox One By Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson

  • Kieran

    Guys seriously your crying over resolutions for god sake. This is likely to be improved on in the coming year.

    XB1 has dedicated servers, better line up of first party games, better UI and has better features than than PS4. You can stream TV even though some people hate it here. Skype/video calls, snap features, Titanfall not available on PS4 Better controller, better sound quality.

    Is resolution that big of a deal when games can be upscaled to 1080P use a HD tv games will look awesome on it.

    For crying out loud Battlefield 4 on PS4 looks about the same as the XB1 version and the PS4 has a better resolution.

    Nobody has seen Cod footage yet. I think they should realise it. It might surprise, the xb1 version may look better?

    • WryMouth

      True but how are we getting exclusives at high end 900 to 1080 but 3rd party are jacking us?

      • Nick Peck

        Do you people understand how hard it is to build a game without finalized hardware and drivers for YEARS? The third party guys didn’t have as much time as they would have like to hit launch, not to mention it was only just before the systems shipped did they have final video drivers working really good.

        I think the first party guys had a bit longer and more stuff on hand than a lot of the third party devs. I wouldn’t worry about it, launch games NEVER take full advantage of anything. Just give them some time learn the system and things will continually get easier and better for the game creation process. The same goes for all companies and systems.

        • slasaru

          Still, a much lower spec PC than the next gen xbox was able to produce 1080p in COD games, really

  • Dylan

    Anyone who says “they didn’t want it anyway” is definitely lying.

  • todd Wright

    any word on the next free game???

    • baconcheeswhiz89

      viva pinata

      • CDMAss

        oh man!! How come they always offer games I already have. lol

        • Jan Václavík

          Because you have a good taste in games?

      • DarkMaturus

        Such a cool game is true. My gf will love it!

        • todd Wright

          you dont have a gf dont lie

      • IN_YO_FACE_86

        wait really?

  • Marshmellow Jay

    Yes, @lowernativeresolutions is exclusive. No, not a timed exclusive. It will only be available on Xbox one.

  • Brian Ghattas

    The people here crack me up. I will agree that NeoGAF is a horrible website filled with people who need to get out more instead of spending all day long talking about video game rumors on their PCs.

    I’m sure Titanfall will be in a PC Humble Bundle in late 2014 as many people refuse to buy anything from EA that isn’t Madden, FIFA, Battlefield or The Sims.

    • ElektroDragon

      NeoGAF is worse than horrible. It is a POLICE STATE.

      • roozbeh, again

        Polygon on steroids.

      • Brian Ghattas

        Yes, I wish NeoGAF would die. It’s a disgrace to video gamers.

  • WARLORD

    Infinity ward COD Ghosts is 720p on Xbox one
    “We optimized each console to hit 60 FPS” guess that means Xbox one can’t handle 60 FPS at 1080p

    • Nick Peck

      Is that why Forza 5 is native 1080p 60fps? Is that why Halo 5 will be the same among a ton of other games? BF4 isn’t even 1080p on the ps4. I wouldn’t worry about it based on third party launch games. Sure it’s a little surprising but I wouldn’t worry about it, you will see plenty of those games down the road that support it easily.

      Not to mention the upscalers quality you wont even notice so it’s not really a big deal. But if those stats will “ruin” a game for you, by all means cry about it and go elsewhere :)

      • paul rolland

        I think it shows that Microsoft and Sony have swapped places at the start of this Gen, The Xbox now being the harder to optimize for, I just wish Microsoft would not treat us like idiots, most people buying a console at launch know there stuff, terms like “Rocket Science” and “Your dont need to know” are not terms you should be saying to hardcore gamers

        • beardyman3218

          i think it come down to these consoles being new, devs need time to get used to their architecture, look at what games looked like when 360 released, they were just ps2 games cleaned up a bit. you shouldnt judge a console within it first year. if people did the ps3 wouldnt have sold as well as it has.

      • WARLORD

        First off Forza is a racing game not as much is need it. Long track nice background. Second I never said anything about ps4 or bf4. If the Xbox one can handle it then why is all the FPS games at 720p? There is also the fact thy lied to us. At E3 cod ghost was advertised at 1080p. I don’t like being lied too. Not after I just spent $500 + 60 for that game and the Xbox one.

        • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

          so you based your 500$ purchase on the single fact that one of the game was running 1080p… nice

          • WARLORD

            Really that’s the point you walk away with. Off cores not that’s just my day one…. and now it looks like it’s going to be more then that one game at 720p… MY point was thy lied…you my like being lied to but I don’t.

          • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

            i don’t get how your mind work. When i say someone lie i have proof, so unless the DEVELOPER have said that it was native 1080p on X1 and then they retract and say well it was upscale 1080, you have no point.

            And complaining against MS for something they have no control on, which is how bad infinity ward is at optimising in time for the release of the xbox 1 a game for a second set of hardware (because i guess it was at first develop on the ps4, giving them yes an advantage in some sort).

            so noooooooo, i don’t feel i’m being lied, no i don’t really care if it’s upscale or not, i have a monster PC if i want insane graphic, the reason we choose console is the ease of use, community, live service, etc etc etc and it still deliver a great experience on x360 despite the “horrible” graphic. and according to the fact that the console is soooooooooooooo much going to get optimised, i don’t really that it’s a problem in long term.

            If that get you angry, it’s your choice, but wow, life must be hard on your side, i prefer to fight on other stuff, but that’s me. I would strongly suggest you to write the developer’s forum and not the hardware provider…

            following your logic is a bit hard, sorry if i misunderstand it.

        • slasaru

          Look, really 500 usd is not that much. In my country they pay almost 2000 for new iphone. And people pay twice as xbox one for new phones regularly all over the world. And a smartphone is a small thing which is not needed THAT much, because much cheaper models can make calls

      • slasaru

        Yeah, and also mr Penello confirmed the game looked f*Ng amazing, what other proof we need?

    • HGamer

      Xbox One can handle 1080p 60fps (Forza 5, NBA 2K14).

      Why CODG can’t run with 1080p? You should ask Infinity Ward, not M$.

    • Death Dealer

      CoD:Ghosts is just a bad unoptimized port of a current gen game on the Xbox One.
      It’s probably due to time constraints and the SDK still being changed all the time. I just hope they patch it after release.
      The Xbox One is 7-8 times more powerful than the Xbox 360. Not being able to achieve at least 900p now, even with MS changing the software, is just doing a bad job.

      • slasaru

        Well, it has several times more memory but the CPU is not that stong in comparison with 360, which was amazing. GPU is also no that strong. So what they have is 7 to 8 times more RAM but not power equivalent, unfortunately

        • Jan Václavík

          Despite being low-end by todays PC standards, those Jaguar-based CPUs should be pretty powerful on their own. I mean, eight out-of-order cores with AVX support…

          • slasaru

            No, they are just low power consumption netbook cores

          • Death Dealer

            Partially true by today’s PC standards, but they perform a lot more FLOPS than the cores on the Xbox 360 and OOOE too.

      • beardyman3218

        Exactly you only have to look at the pc specs to see how unoptimized that game is. i mean 6gb ram! to run a game that still looks current gen.

  • Roberto Merino

    Hey Microsoft, you got us, your customers, used to have the most powerful system on each console generation, this time it seems your system is not powerful enough to move 1080p third party games like the competition does, and your system is also more expensive, i think you have not done your work right and this is going to cost you BIG, BIG money in exclusives to make us forget this hardware FAIL, and even spending all you have in exclusives, it might not work.

  • DarkMaturus

    I’m wondering if Titanfall will have kill streaks! I’m so used to them now

    • Dylan

      That’s how you get a mech if I remember correctly from their gameplay video.

      • EldritchWarlord

        It’s based on time but killing and taking objectives reduces the time.

  • Ivanx360xpira

    Have you ever stopped to think that things are not so bad than it seems. these are first games for god sake, things will get better and they look good anyways. Do y really felt so much difference between two versions of BF4?Maybe it´s a software restriction?XB1 proved to be capable of run games in 1080p…Forza 5 is an example and I´m pretty sure that a lot of games will run at 1080p in X1 but others don´t…I really dont´care about it…

    What really bothers me is the reaction of MS about all of this…for Christ sake, there is a rumor, they cooked it till someone confirm if this rumor is true or not…then comes the hate bandwagon…this is a cycle since X1 reveal…

    MS should just put the thing loud and clear!this “war” is getting to far and it´s turning to a stupid but hilarious thing…

  • paul rolland

    Please take the money your wasting keeping Titan fall on Xbox and invest it in studios like Rare, get back Mistwaker and start making some real first party games that’s what made me buy the 360, If I wanted a system to play just FPS games I would just keep my PC. I need to see games as the standard as Last of us and Ni No Kuni, Halo 5 and Whatever that 10 second Black Tusk FMV was just isn’t cutting it

  • usrev

    the devs said they would be making ps4 games as well.

    as I said before, chances are titanfall 1 will be exclusive but like mass effect and bioshock it will be multiplatform after (and probably some re release thing later on in the gen)

    • slasaru

      Yes, this is highly possible unless MS purchases the IP

  • usrev

    also may I ask, does anyone know the free games with gold titles for november? usually Major Nelson posts it here a few days in advance.

    • xbox_gamer

      I’m waiting also. I let my gold go this month. But can get it for 35 bucks for a year to resign .Depends on what the free games are. Playing AC4 and Gta5 on PS3 so don’t need gold.And I’m playing xbox games on my windows phone so,what’s the Nov. Games?

    • Liquidfx Xboxdude

      I am from the future to say……they suck. don’t bother.

  • Shane Battle

    Soooooooooo looking forward to playing this,i can’t wait. must suck to be a playstation fan and know you wont be getting this game.

    • todd Wright

      i would laugh if wii u got it too just so sony is the only one excluded

  • joevsyou

    score in ms book. Too bad it’s not 100% exclusive. Still think the 360 version will get canned

  • ae69ae

    1920×1080 (1080p) is more than twice the resolution of 1280×720 (720p), actually.

    1280×720 = 921,600 Pixels
    1920×1080 = 2,073,600 Pixels

    Just for anyone wondering about the difference.

    • slasaru

      Yes, its the fact, though not obvious about visual differences yet

      • Roberto Merino

        When you see 720p content (game) on a 1080p LCD TV, and then see the same content but in 1080p in your 1080p LCT TV at its native resollution, the visual noticeable difference is like 10X better.

        • slasaru

          I know this. I m just saying the difference could be in effects, lighting, textures, polygons etc. which can be drastically better in lower res. to some extent BF on xb1 is better than ps4

          • Roberto Merino

            That is because PS4 BF4 is not 1080p either, and because PS4 BF4 was displayed with compressed RGB range and recorded on a full range RGB recorder, which makes it loose contrast (range). Anyway i am not comparing platforms here, if PS4 is displaying 720p content, shame on PS4, if it is Xbone, then shame on the Xbone.

          • beardyman3218

            But why does 1080p matter just because the resolution is 1080p does not been what your seeing is 1080p. It’s down to the textures and digital foundry already explained that the xbox ones textures in battlefield 4 were a lot better than the ps4. even though xbox one is running 720p while ps4 is 900p. it comes down to visual quality per pixel rather than how many pixels you can fit in, thats why ryse went with 900p rather than 1080p and that game looks fantastic.

          • slasaru

            Well, with the higher resolution comes best antialiacing

          • beardyman3218

            sure you may need less at a higher resolution but the xbox one’s upscaler is better than the ps4 (Source digital foundry) so higher antialiacing and the upscaler would give the same effect a higher resolution does.

          • slasaru

            It was Turn 10 who said they will overcome aliacing when resolution is native 4k. And every time when you upscale it gives additional aliacing compared to native. So when you say better upscaler, it may be non sense for ps4 since they are already at 1080p

  • slasaru

    Guys, the action is simple: DO NOT BUY new COD game
    That will teach them a lesson

    But i am sure people will buy millions of that even despite the res.

    • Roberto Merino

      The problem is that COD announces 720p on Xbone, BF4 is 720p, what is next?, Watchdogs?, or even exclusives like DR3?. If everything is going to be like this, instead of stop buying 720p games, don’t buy the system.

      MS should look into this, they should force developers to follow a MINIMUM quality standard. 1080p should be the bare minimum content allowed in a 2013 console system, but as they screwed up with the hardware, lets say 900p can be allowed in some cases, but a 720p rendered game should never get to the market in 2013.

      • slasaru

        They cannot force a standard, otherwise they will not make games for xbox. This could be worse

        • Roberto Merino

          They already force some standard regarding network communications, memory limits, integration with console services, multimedia playing, micropayments protocols, and a lot lot more.

          Forcing 900p as minimum is the less intrusive of the requirements they already have, as if the developer doesn’t want to put some effort in optimizing, he could just turn off some demanding graphical effects, and that’s it.

        • Dylan

          They were going to force a standard of DRM on all developers, I have to believe a standard like 900p is less intrusive…

      • Death Dealer

        MS is still making changes to their SDK. That’s why they can’t force anything at the moment. They are looking at Mantle for example and are trying to adapt that somewhat to DirectX for the Xbox One so there is less hardware abstraction on the GameOS. The GameOS doesn’t require the level of abstraction like it is on PC as it is a special target platform. The security will still be governed by the hypervisor.
        Developers have been asking if DirectX on Xbox One can go direct to metal and MS is working on that but it’s going to take some time before they get there. It might take another 6 months before developers finally get the tools they need to make everything truly next gen.
        I’m not really bothered by resolution, just disappointed that MS hasn’t reached that level yet and that the developers didn’t put in any more effort to get it higher. But like I said before, if the assets are already distributed at high quality, it shouldn’t be too hard for IW or DICE to up the quality after release via a patch.

        • Roberto Merino

          Things will improve in the future, that is clear, but how much taking into account that this console is built around nothing more than a laptop CPU with integrated graphics?, yes, it is made by AMD, but it is what it is.

        • Master Troll

          So the console was rushed

      • Ivanx360xpira

        Don´t agree with you, so by yours standards doesn´t matter if the game is good or fun? the only thing matters is the resolution?”but the game is good or fun?I don´t know but it runs at 1080p” Ah…C´mon!

        • Roberto Merino

          If a game is good fun or not is subjective and a standard cannot be set for things like this. Screen resolution is another thing, it is a cuantificable factor and they actually SET the standard in Xbox 360 where a developer cannot release a game on 480p only resolution.

          It is called PROGRESS, and this has nothing to do with fun or playability, it has to do with audiovisual quality. There are tons of great and fun games on older consoles, then what is the benefit on upgrading to a new system if there in not enough improvement?. And don’t tell me about better textures and stuff like this because it does not work this way, you cannot show high quality textures through a low res screen.

          • Ivanx360xpira

            Progress also can be measured in several ways, audiovisual improvement is indeed ONE way and it´ll happen with time…

            Just don´t think this initial discussion about resolution is something so dramatic as it seems…of course as a X1 buyers I would like that things were different, but I´m aware that both system are different and demand different time and skills for the developers to tame each one…I´m not judging it till I see by my eyes the both MATURE systems working side by side.

            I also heard that to develop in PS4 seems to be easer ´cause it is pretty similar to PC, then when a game is ported to PC then almost automatically its ported to PS4…this for some “lazy” developers is a paradise. XB1, otherwise is a closed architecture which demands more efforts from developers to reach is fully potential…I believe this initial situation are more related to this than hardware restrictions…

          • Roberto Merino

            Come on, wake up, PS4 and Xbone are very similar, both share the same architecture, and all optimizations that work in one of them should work in the other one. The main differences are the PS4 has double ROPS, a whole lot more shaders and TMUS and almost twice as fast RAM memory than the One, and then the ONE has 6% higher clock 32MB ESRAM and (it seems) a bloated OS that gets in the way of gaming. Sorry to say, but there is no way the Xbox ONE will ever catch PS4 in power and graphics, better get used to the idea, i am a big fan of Xbox and i feel really sad because of this.

            Development for both should be about the same, both share x86 architecture with a AMD GPU, there are PLENTY of documentation for developers, and probably the edge in optimization and easyness for now is on the Microsoft side due to better development tools. the only rumors were about the hard to use ESRAM, well it is not like the use of it will give more than 10% boost, and sometimes may not deserve the hassle.

            Maybe in a couple of years we will be seeing 1080p games on xbox one, but PS4 already has them, and in two years the gap between both consoles will be bigger because experience in programming also counts for non MS consoles.

          • Ivanx360xpira

            Dude to be honest I had enough of this conversation…everyone has thoughts about it. If even MS doesn´t care to explain these issues why am I try to justify something about it…Just realized we’re being fools here…or you really think Sony or MS give a dawn for us…they just want money. I liked more the games which XB1 offered then I decided to pick it. those who think PS4 has better graphics, games…better everything just go and pick one or a PC…
            Anyways I live in Brasil dude, and to enjoy gaming here is a hell…the joke here is the price of PS4 (almost U$1000 more expensive than XB1). The truth is both companies don´t give a # for us…

      • Lucas Sanches Cestari

        after doing some search, i saw that forza and nba can be 1080p while CoD:Ghosts and Battlefield will be 720p… that makes me think… why??? the only logic answer to that is… Infinity Ward and Dice don’t know how to make a optimized game for xbox one, i guess, we have to wait 1 year to know if they will try to do a game with better quality

        • Roberto Merino

          Well, you know, one is a driving game in a track, and the others are full action games, with explosions, particles, bigger scenarios with free walking player, etc…

          • Master Troll

            Don’t waste your time Robert I hold MS to higher standards as well

        • Master Troll

          Or your in denial about the xbox one being underpowered expect destiny and titanfall to run 720p as well then you can go blame bungie and respawn too

          • Lucas Sanches Cestari

            master troll, i guess you don’t understand what i said above…

      • zainfazal3000

        Yes there are already rumours that Titanfall will run in 720p on Xbox One, If that’s the case, I might as well just save myself 500 bucks and the the Xbox 360 version.

  • CA$H

    Why can’t the Xbone handle a ugly game like COD Ghosts in 1080p is nearly 2014
    DROP THE KINECT 2.0 AND MAKE THE XBONE $300 without it

    • Skrilla

      Why give us a 4K HDMI cable if the Xbone can only handle 720p games?

      • WARLORD

        So they can upscale to 4K….but I don’t think it will be any different for the ps4… When it comes to 4K thy both will upscale.

    • baconcheeswhiz89

      why do people insist on thinking this will change the graphics? lol….this generation is so dumbfounddead, its not about the gameplay anymore.

      GRAPHICS DON’T MAKE A GAME IDIOTS.

      • Mark Jones

        Thats true.. But at the same time I dont want to pay more money for inferior hardware.. I dont want to pay extra for a system where the multiplat games will play and look worse than cheaper hardware..

        • evilfangs .

          It’s a ported game made my lazy developers.

          The only advantage PS4 has at the moment is it’s clearly the easier console to developer for, which means these lazy developers don’t need to optimize the PS4 version as much as X1.

          2015 is when we will see real next gen games made and that is when we will see all games on all consoles hitting 1080p 60fps.

          • Vulcanproject

            Dreaming. PS4 is considerably more powerful than Xbox One. Xbox one’s architecture looks optimised more for a majority of 720p games than 1080p, largely down to having less main system memory bandwidth and a slower GPU with half the ROPS of PS4 which is a critical performance factor for higher resolutions.
            Xbox one will have some 1080p gamesfor sure but iit’ll never have nearly as many as PS4 will have over its lifetime. The fact that two different developers already shown that PS4 is at least 50 percent faster and many others have confirmed as much should be enough for people to just accept it, get over it and buy an Xbox one for what it offers not for what it doesn’t and probably never will.

          • Ivanx360xpira

            50%, ok then…I wonder who´s is dreaming?I accept that gpu is theoretically stronger in PS4. But the truth is the Sony made a box that “lazy” developers love…IW and CoD has a history in beeing “lazy”…

            Anyways just get an PS4 and be happy…

          • Vulcanproject

            Its true. Its completely, utterly totally 100 percent true. I have no reason whatsoever to mislead people, I am a PC gamer primarily.

            PS4′s GPU has 50 percent more shaders, 50 percent more TMUS, and 100 percent more ROPS.

            Xbox one has a teeny bit higher GPU core clockspeed (6 percent higher) but plainly it will never, ever, ever, ever, ever be as fast as PS4 because of the large disparity in GPU performance.

            Ever.

            Ever.

            Battlefield 4 has 56 percent more resolution than Xbox one, and COD has 125 more resolution than Xbox One.

            You could claim that Infinity Ward has indeed messed up because 1080p to 720p is just a HUGE gap for COD, But DICE have nailed the rough performance advantage predicted for PS4 on the head.

            56 percent, which is pretty much bang on where you would expect for any multi format game. Theres no point arguing over this, because these are just facts and I’m just the messenger.

            Xbox one will never match PS4 on multiformat games, NEVER. Ok?

            So give up on that, and buy the console for its strengths, its exclusives, and whatever features appeal to you.

          • Ivanx360xpira

            OK! I made my choice already. Anyways if I would like to get the best graphics I would invest my money in a powerfull PC Gpu, probably just as you did?

            BTW if you´re primarily on PC what motivates you to praise the PS4 power and superiority here in MN blog?just curious..

          • Vulcanproject

            I replied to someone blind to the truth by claiming it was merely developers being lazy as to why Xbox One could not match PS4 on Battlefield 4 and COD.

            Now it might apply a little to Infinity Ward, because the gap is too large to lay it all at the door of the hardware disparity between the consoles. I think Infinity Ward may have rushed the Xbox One version, maybe because they didn’t want to delay it or maybe because Microsoft didn’t get their ESRAM tools sorted out in time. Well, whatever.

            But the Battlefield 4 resolution disparity is virtually exactly what you should expect for the whole generation.

            I am primarily a PC gamer, but not exclusively a PC gamer. In fact PC gamers who have paid a bunch of money out for a PC logically likely have the cash to buy the consoles which are less to buy- right? PC gamers I know anyway.

            I own and play all of the current consoles. I don’t see why I won’t also own all this generation when I judge their appeal to be worthy of my money.

            But its a fair warning to anyone if they are buying Xbox One with expectations it’ll be able to match PS4 for multiformats, because it just won’t.

            So if you primary play is on multis, then you might want to reassess your priorities.

            If like me its more about the unique experience each machine offers with their single platform or exclusive titles, then I’m sure you’ll be more than happy with Xbox One.

          • Ivanx360xpira

            ok…not blind here but thanks anyways, just skeptical of all this PS4 superiority in graphics department. Anyways, what you say may be right, but remains to be proved…I prefer wait a bit more to take my conclusions…so far I’m much more satisfied with Xbox One lineup of games. Moreover, aside for the AA (which is better on PS4 in my opinion) I preferred the XB1 one version of BF4. But how the versions will look in big screens, well, I don´t know how things will stand. Anyways, I play on 32” then I think it won´t be a problem for me…

          • Vulcanproject

            Its strange why people are so skeptical when on paper PS4 is quite a bit more powerful, now in practice we also know it is.

            COD Ghosts and Battlefield 4 already say it is, in the real world.

            Interestingly these series ran better on Xbox 360, particularly COD which ran at a slightly better resolution on 360 than it did on PS3.

            But PS4 on both these games is significantly faster. Battlefield 4 on PS4 will end up looking a lot better on a 1080p HDTV because it is considerably higher resolution, much less loss of detail when its seen properly on a screen than in badly compressed videos or gifs. This compression is really helping the Xbox One version look closer and hiding the increase in resolution.

            As a PC gamer I’m pretty much the person to ask, what difference higher resolutions make. Well- A LOT. The clarity is much better on a 1080p HDTV over 720p. It is more noticeable in motion than just static, not less.

            Not to mention that I have seen the multi player versions and the gap is bigger on the multi than it is on the single player, probably because there is more load in multi.

            Xbox One seems to be missing a whole load of stuff in the mode that matters by far the most to people playing Battlefield 4.

          • Master Troll

            It’s not just about better graphics it’s about not having an inferior product and not letting the competition shine over you

          • Roberto Merino

            And what it is worst, i am sure they knew what Sony was preparing for the PS4 hardware wise, because they both are in contact with AMD. MS should have ordered from AMD this way: “I want the same APU than Sony but with a higher clock rate, and if that is not possible, stick some ESRAM inside”, but they preferred to sell us… the magic of the cloud!, obviously it was a cheaper optoin.

            Well, MS, now show us how the cloud is going to give us FullHD graphics in multiplatform games.

          • Roberto Merino

            Probably the fact that people like you don’t seem to understand some true facts. I am a console gamer i will have the Xbone, that is for sure, i love halo, gears, forza, dead rising, etc… but i will also have a PS4, the last generation all multiplatform games i bought went for the Xbox 360 just because they were a little bit better in general (starting from loading times), this time, if things continue like they are going, they will be going for the PS4. 1080p vs 720p is a huuuge difference that cannot be overlooked, and even if in two years they manage to output 1080p in multiplatform games in the ONE by miracle, they will be using more and better effects, textures and stuff in PS4 while keeping 1080p

          • Jan Václavík

            Instead developers are going cripple XBOs more powerful CPU, because reducing the resolution on XBO is much easier than tapping into the PS4s GPGPU capabilities (and reducing its graphics by doing so) or having different versions use various level of physics, AI etc.
            Microsoft should have done what Nintendo did with the WiiU – weak CPU and powerful GPU. Developers would build their games around the weakest CPU and the GPU would produce oh so many shinny pixels.

          • Vulcanproject

            CPU performance matters less and less these days in games, which is why the CPUs in these new consoles are both only low power, low performance mobile parts in the first place. Games are by far and away more GPU bound now than ever before.

            Xbox one’s CPU has a clockspeed advantage of about 9 percent assuming PS4′s CPU runs 1.6ghz. This isn’t very significant, mainly because the CPU has a much smaller hand in graphics performance than the GPU.

            Added to the fact PS4′s GPU is so much faster and so much better at compute, you can move more across to it to easily hide any disparity there. You have to consider its a difference easily swallowed by Xbox One potentially reserving more resources for the OS- for example Microsoft claim to reserve 10 percent GPU performance at launch whether a developer likes it or not.

            But 9 percent extra CPU clockspeed is very very small. The clockspeed might be 9 percent higher but overclocking a CPU or a GPU for that matter does not linearly increase the performance by the amount overclocked. It’ll prove to be less in practical terms.

            So while it has a 9 percent higher clock, it’ll be lucky to be 5-6 percent faster in real terms than PS4′s CPU.

            The impact on a game for example would be virtually non existent. I think developers have been heavily encouraged to move tasks to PS4′s GPU because it has been customised to be better at compute tasks than the design it is based around.

          • Jan Václavík

            I think the hardware choice is mostly about AMD lacking better hardware these days and Intel not licensing to other companies.
            Games are not generally CPU bound, because developers cant count on gamers having more than two cores in their PCs.

            Once they start offloading to GPU, the PS4 starts losing its GPU performance advantage, but why on Earth would someone do that? Stuff like AI is nowhere near as visible as graphics – sacrificing the later to improve the former is a no-go,especially in todays average scripted shooter.

          • Vulcanproject

            Its not really that. AMD make much much faster CPUs than the Jaguar cores used in PS4/Xbox One. Plus even a modern Intel dual core is actually faster than the 8 core Jaguars in these machines. Especially when it seems neither machine can use more than 6 of those cores for games.

            Games used to be more CPU bound, but GPU capabilities have expanded enormously since the previous consoles were launched. The whole GPGPU trend started afterwards and accelerated the past 8 years, its just so much more important to have a quality GPU- they are hugely more flexible these days.

            I did mention that Xbox one already loses 10 percent of its GPU performance because Microsoft ring fenced it for Kinect whether developers want it or not.

            Offloading to the GPU for example physics or aspects of the AI is much more efficient than you think. PS4 has the ability to queue a great deal more compute tasks on the GPU than Xbox One, which are simply automatically fitted in whenever there is a slight drop in GPU load.

            We are talking about in the real world, a 5 or 6 percent performance difference on their CPUs. This is just….nothing for games when PS4′s GPU is so much faster and so much better at compute and queuing.

            I can’t emphasise enough how little impact a slightly higher CPU clock will have on games.

          • Jan Václavík

            You would want them to use Piledriver? Like seriously?
            Unless the software makes use of more than two threads, a high-clocked dual core CPU can no doubt outperform, well, pretty much any lower clocked CPU.

            And if there is no drop in graphics load, minor details like AI can wait few frames, right?

            You are talking only about the clock advantage, but if current generation games are anything to go by, sound processing and decompression of assets can eat entire threads or even cores, having dedicated hardware to handle those should free lot of CPU time … but I guess you are going to downplay those as well.

          • Vulcanproject

            I didn’t say I wanted them to use piledriver. Merely pointed out that Jaguar isn’t exactly the limits of CPU technology as you claimed it was.

            And dismissing a desktop dual core as being faster because software isn’t threaded also misses the point because the a good dual core like I mentioned is faster regardless of how well threaded code is for these Jaguars….this is generally with all cores running as well. Let alone giving up 25 percent of their performance to OS overheads and concerns.

            AI is indeed less latency bound than other functions. We aren’t talking about minutes for a load drop here we are talking milliseconds when we talk about processing.

            As for the advantage of dedicated hardware for sound and such I’m not sure what you refer to. Both consoles have custom dedicated sound hardware and video compression hardware.

          • Jan Václavík

            No Jaguar, no Piledriver … what else would you want them to use? Cortex?
            Stock Jaguar quad-cores are slightly outperformed by Intel dual cores, doubling the number of cores and increasing the clock should do the trick.

            At 60fps the whole frame needs to be rendered within less than 17 miliseconds. We are indeed talking miliseconds and if you want to make sure your GPGPU processes are ready in time, you have to include them in your GPU budget.

            Audio processing is hogging surprisingly large part of CPU time even in the current generation consoles. I was writing about decompression of assets, not video encoding.

          • Vulcanproject

            I don’t know what you are talking about. I didn’t say not to use Jaguar- I didn’t suggest to use Piledriver. Where on earth did I? You may want to read replies a little better.

            You’ll find stock Jaguar quad cores are greatly outperformed by a modern Intel dual core.

            For example a Jaguar based AMD A6 5200 (this is a 2ghz part, clocked even higher than Xbox one and PS4) has a passmark of 2451.

            A dual core desktop Intel i3 4130 which is near the bottom of Intel’s current dual core Haswell range has a passmark of 4928.

            Passmark is hardly perfectly representative of the speed difference but even on that a low end Intel dual core is twice as fast as a Jaguar quad- a Jaguar faster than the ones in the consoles. Find any benches you please on the A6 5200, its slow as anything compared to an intel dual. a 6 core Jaguar @ 1.6-1.75ghz has no hope against one.

            PS4′s GPU is more than half a teraflop faster than Xbox One before you even factor in Xbox One’s larger overheads reserved by Microsoft. Milliseconds is what you need for AI, not nanoseconds. Its pretty easy to fit in being less than latency bound- you don’t necessarily even have to update AI every single frame.

            PS4 and Xbox One both have dedicated audio decompression hardware, so yeah, why you bring that up?

          • Jan Václavík

            I dont know about many other cores they could license.

            Of course I was searching for tests and in many cases A4 5000 (1,5GHz) is surprisingly close to even i3s. An optimized compiler making actually use of all the available instruction extensions should further improve the CPU performance of consoles.

            If there is plenty happening on the screen and the GPU cant even maintain stable framerate, there wont be any AI computations taking place for maybe few frames?
            I know there is some talk about the lines between MS and SP blurring, but increasing SP latencies should not be the way…

            Are you basically connecting various sentences so you can claim PS4 does have the necessary HW?

          • Vulcanproject

            I don’t know why you are attempting time after time to put words into my mouth.

            Let me remind you, developers have SIX cores on Xbox One. Not 7, not 8.

            ‘In many tests’ Not ones I have seen, not ones I have used. Its fairly consistently slower than the modern i3s. You need to back up your performance claims with examples which you have constantly failed to do.

            Please show us all these tests you have been looking at where a Jaguar quad core is as fast or faster than an new Intel I3.chip?

            I would LOVE to see them. I suspect at best you can turn out a few extremely slanted tests. PLEASE if you reply again, show me all your tests, or I will consider that a massive failure on your part.

            This debate started because you failed to understand why Jaguar was chosen in the first place.

            Its simple, let me explain it for you. Jaguar was chosen for a couple of factors, its maximum TDP, die area versus performance, and therefore cost.

            If they had a much larger, more powerful CPU like an 8 module Piledriver then it wouldn’t have been viable to manufacture on an APU with the size of the ESRAM and GPU with current process technology. Its already about 5 billion transistors as it is, it would probably be 6 billion+ with a piledriver. That is a massive die best suited for more limited production in mid 2013.

            Therefore they couldn’t have used an APU, they would have needed a separate CPU die.

            This was considered and quickly rejected on cost grounds, because it would still be hugely more expensive, but also consume more power. Piledriver would have busted the ceiling on what power consumption a console does.

            Ergo their choice was to weld two pretty slow mobile quad cores together and fit them on an APU. This was never a massive deal, because as I originally pointed out, the GPU matters more these days.

            Are you basically just inventing replies without managing to back yourself up, without managing to even answer any question asked of yourself instead constantly putting words in others mouths and never actually reading what they have said in context?

        • baconcheeswhiz89

          i feel you 100%, i think they should sell the xbox one seperate from the kinect, makes me a little worried that they haven’t done that yet, but who knows. but things are subject to change on the long run.

      • DavidinCT

        It’s about both. This is not a Xbox 360, this is NEXT gen game system, We dont only want the best graphics possable out of BRAND new system, WE EXPECT IT.

        Just because a game is pretty, does not mean it’s fun and I 100% agree with you on that but on a “claimed” high end, not even release system should provide the best graphics available for the time.

        I can see this on last gen systems but, on the next gen ? This is a joke ?

        $500 for a system that cant even play the top end games at 1080p ?

        Come on !

        • closingracer

          Design choice….. clearly Xbox one can handle 1080p native…. look at Forza 5 enough said ( Also 60 fps)

          • Roberto Merino

            Forza 5 is a driving game and its graphic complexity cannot be compared to an action game, with free walking, explosions, particles more complex illumination, etc..

          • closingracer

            It still does it at 1080p at 60 FPS… I don’t get why people complain about launch titles …. 3 years down the line would warrant a complaint but not this early…

    • Roberto Merino

      I don’t mind if the Xbox One cost 300, 400, 500, 700… as long as it could run the games equal or a little better than the competition, just as it has always done and was to be expected this time.

      • Master Troll

        Same here Robert I would’ve jumped at a $500-$600 xbox even without the kinect if they had put a really nice GPU with more memory bandwidth

  • maurice16

    What is the next free game going to be?

    • Liquidfx Xboxdude

      Vampire Rain. enjoy!

  • DavidinCT

    This is great that it will be an exclusive but, the major problem here is posted all over this chat, just this game being only for MS systems. Never mind a game that everyone was looking for on release DELAYED till spring with a lot of the other big titles that we have been waiting for.

    Another screw up by Microsoft on the Xbox One, first DRM that the world hated, then always connected to the internet, then Kinect needed to be connected or the system would not run….that MS backed all out on…

    Now, some of the largest titles that people want for the new system, only in 720p on a flagship system that has not even been release yet ???? BUT the PS4 gets them all in 1080p ??? And for a $100 less for the system.

    Great way to tick off gamers Microsoft… What is the point of a high end system if a lower end PC could give better detail than a top end $500 console ??

    Microsoft your loyal gamers deserve a public reason WHY this is…NOW not after the games are released.

    I hate to down something I ordered but a flaw IS a FLAW…

    • boe2

      bye then :)

      • Master Troll

        The Don Mattrick philosophy glad your passing it on

        • boe2

          Rather: What the hell are you still doing here? Obviously 720p has become some completely unacceptable treshold and both XBO and PS4 will get more games running at that resolution in the future.

          Since you now only care about graphics and not about the actual games, why are you not gaming on your brand new PC?

          • Master Troll

            I care about the games it’s just that the games I care about should be running in high quality hd resolution

          • boe2

            They are.

            “Oh no, 720p, I’m going to be counting pixels”.

          • WARLORD

            Your wright Oh no 720p this is supposed to be next gen, I can play 720p on my 360…. and save $500… MS them self’s advertised COD Ghost at 1080p is it to much to ask thy live up to there word??? And now it looks like all the 3rd party games are going to be 720p as well…. but I take it, if thy told you to drink the Kool aid you would..

          • boe2

            I can name only a few xbox360 games that run on native 720p, COD is certainly not one of them. And it even more certainly doesn’t run on 60 fps.

            See why I’m not angry? I’m an informed person ;)

          • WARLORD

            Every Cod mW and black ops game ran at 60fps. And the first cod mW was 1024×600…. Informed not so much..Google your friend sun….

          • Does Not Equal

            I Googled my friend’s son once.

          • Liquidfx Xboxdude

            that is really gross.

          • Liquidfx Xboxdude

            cod games are now at 60 fps on the xbox 360

          • Master Troll

            And btw boe2 I’ve been a gold member since 2006 owned 2-3 360s counting my first which was rrod but others were fine and I’ve invested over a $1000 in the 360 alone with games dlc movies tv shows friends avatars you name it never owned a ps3 either you could have called me an xbot but I was crushed and feel betrayed by MS all fanboy nonsense to the side and I don’t blame the major because he’s the ambassador but I think he needs to fight for us better like a union rep I honestly believe they were very focused on other agendas such as generating extra revenue whic is understandable but not at the cost to quality gaming on the xbox used to be the gold standard to me but now I have believed the tables have turned

          • Roberto Merino

            That is the key “…the xbox used to be the gold standard to me but now I have believed the tables have turned”

            Couldn’t agree more with you.

          • boe2

            …what does your xbox history have to do with any of this?!

        • Dylan

          The Adam Orth effect!

    • closingracer

      Yawn

  • DavidinCT

    As I think about this, maybe I will skip the xbox one version of this game, I will get it on the PC, at least I will know 100% I will get 1080p or higher

    • Mark Jones

      If I do keep my pre-order.. Still might cancel it.. I will not get any multiplats on the Xbox One.. I might cancel my pre-order and wait for a price drop and better hardware. (meaning I dont want to get burned like I did being a first adopter for the 360 and get rrod) and software updates..

      • Master Troll

        Better hardware is out of the question unless they upclock the gpu again they should never have reserved 10% gpu to Kinnect either that was stupid

        • Mark Jones

          When I say better hardware.. I dont mean more powerful.. I mean better built hardware with less issues.. Like how the newer 360s dont rrod…

          • Master Troll

            I get ya I don’t think the xbox one will have an rrod problem since it had to do with BGA issues and I’m pretty sure they will never let that happen again

          • Elias Reyes

            We’ll this is like the beginning of the Xbox 360 and PS3. I remember very well that developers were not very please with the cell processor and that it was very hard to program for. Look at the PS3 now with great visual games. The same is happening now, with the xbox one. They are not please with the esram and only getting 90% from the gpu and 10% reserve for the system OS and Kinect2. There no doubt in my mind that hardware wise PS4 dominate, but the Xbox one will not be left behind. Microsoft built the xbox one for one purpose and that to be a true living room experience. Sony built the PS4 for true gaming experience. It all in the way the Hardware is built. I truly believe that both systems will offer something unique for everyone. As for me I can’t lie I will be getting both of the systems for their exclusive games.

  • baconcheeswhiz89

    this comment is not about how graphics wise is better on the xbox one or ps4, this is just a simple useless comment just like the ones under me.

    CARRY ON PEOPLE.

    • WARLORD

      Hum lets see 720p COD ghost on xbox one $500+60. 720p COD ghost xbox 360 $60 hummmm……..

      • baconcheeswhiz89

        look at 720p and 1080p side by side and you tell the difference, because you can’t. atleast i can’t.

        and you would only have to pay 10 bucks extra for a xbox one version of call of booty ghouls, if you bought the 360 version.

        this is a new generation of consoles, be patient and see what happens in the next 3 years after launch, you wont be complaining about your pretty graphics.

        • Master Troll

          Tell that to a PC player they’d laugh at you

          • baconcheeswhiz89

            come on man be more original!

          • Master Troll

            It’s the truth nothing to do with originality

          • CDMAss

            Can’t tell the difference between 720p and 1080p?? WOW you are original.

        • Roberto Merino

          I can’t believe you can’t tell the difference, it is more than twice the definition!!!

          OMG

      • Master Troll

        Why??? After 7-8 years we deserved better than this

        • WARLORD

          Yes we do….

      • Corellianrogue

        The Matrix games (or at least the first one) along with Dragon’s Lair 3D on the original Xbox were 1080i. Are you saying that they have better graphics than Call Of Duty: Ghosts on the Xbox 360 let alone the Xbox One? Resolution isn’t everything, in fact it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things as long as it’s not too low. I’d rather have a 720p game that looks like Avatar or a Pixar movie than a 1080p game that looks like a polished PS1 game.

    • roozbeh, again

      Obviously the extra power went towards fish AI. I mean, why wouldn’t it?

  • roozbeh, again

    When is the next free game announced? Also, exactly in how many hours is halo 3 no longer free?

  • WARLORD

    A World of Keflings????? really……

    • Does Not Equal

      No, man. Titanfall. It even says so.

      • Liquidfx Xboxdude

        isn’t knowing how to read fun?

  • ElektroDragon

    Underpowerd GPU, that’s all there is to it. Who the heck thought chopping off 1/3 of the shader cores wouldn’t make a difference?

    • Master Troll

      Don’t forget the missing Aces and CU’s

      • OldSocialist

        What are they then, hmm? Explain them to me in a way that I, as a layman can understand. Please don’t cut and paste, because I’ve already seen all that stuff and I don’t understand it.

        Y’know, it’s amazing the number of experts on arcane technology there are on the internet these days.

  • WARLORD

    If 720p is Microsoft’s idea of Next Gen when there 360 dose the same…. I decline your invitation Microsoft….

  • Guest

    Recent rumblings have given us reason to believe that Sony’s PS4 launch isn’t going to be as polished as it hoped. However, a new source makes it appear that Microsoft is in much more dire straights.

    Trusted source Pete Dodd, also known as famousmortimer on NeoGaf, has a new post
    on his blog where he claims that the Xbox One’s operating system is in
    serious trouble. An unnamed Xbox developer he has spoken to has gone as
    far as to say the current state of the Xbox One OS and Xbox Live is a
    “****ing mess” that isn’t near ready for a November 22nd debut.
    Apparently, core online functionalities aren’t working, things
    fundamentally critical to the Xbox experience such as friend requests,
    game invites, and party creation.

    He goes on to explain that this is due in-part to the new Xbox One
    environment being “written by a group of people who do not play games”.
    This oversight has now cost Microsoft thousands of man hours and
    invaluable time.

    This wouldn’t come as too much surprise after the Xbox One DRM was
    removed. Engineers put a lot of work into designing that infrastructure
    only to have to spend time finding a way to make the console work
    without it.

    We haven’t seen a proper live demonstration of the Xbox One UI and
    there’s less than a month to go until launch. What we have seen are
    pre-staged interactions that are far from genuine. Even journalism
    veteran Jeff Gerstmann has
    found these rumors unsurprising, stating that Microsoft “haven’t
    exactly been out there showing it off in live environments”.

    This doesn’t mean the Xbox One won’t come out on November 22nd. What it
    does mean is Microsoft could have a lot more to deal with than the
    floods of gamers angry that the Xbox One isn’t as powerful as the PS4 or
    that Microsoft requires the purchase of a Kinect with its new console.
    As if those walls of burden weren’t enough.

    If this rumor is true, you can bet that Microsoft’s engineers are
    working overtime to make sure things are settled before the next-gen
    battle begins next month. Stay tuned for a comment by Microsoft on the
    matter.

    • Roberto Merino

      Well, you just have to look at Windows Store to learn what a f***ing mess is, yesterday i was trying to look for a list of the latest free games to play something at work… and i gave up. then fired Google’s Play Store, swiped two times to the left and here they were!

      Maybe what is a mess for that developer, is top quality organization for MS

  • http://raptr.com/unscleric/about UNSCleric

    It’s from Epic.

  • Roberto Merino

    I have an idea, MS, you just earned 6.5 billion in the latest three months, then buy COD, BF, FIFA, AC, and maybe others as exclusives for microsoft machines, this way maybe you will have a not so uphill road in the console war, and nobody will be able to upload PS41080 vs XO720 videos to internet

    • roozbeh, again

      Stock holders would literally burn Steve Ballmer if he did that.

      • Death Dealer

        Yes, but it would be an awesome blow to the competition…if only one then Ubisoft would be the biggest as they seem to favor PS over Xbox with their deals.

      • Roberto Merino

        He is about to abandon MS anyway…

        • roozbeh, again

          True, but they will probably kill his successor.

          • Roberto Merino

            Not user problem

  • evilfangs .

    http://wwwneogafcom/forum/showpost.php?p=87922409&postcount=534

    ( Got this link from Xbox forums, I don’t go on that horrible forums called Neogaf )

    Which one does everyone think looks better? The floor looks more detailed to me on the X1 version and the PS4 looks blurry of sorts, but then you have the dust on the PS4, is that supposed to be like that so you can’t see through it or what?

  • Byyys

    Don’t worry guys, with the xbone you’ll still be able to watch TV at 720p! ahahahaa!

  • Nas Naseer

    I am okay if someone has to say something, but please use your brain.

    The reason that some of the games are not 1080p is because of the devkits, Sony was very quick with their devkits and Microsoft has alot of bugs in their devkits.

    Forza Motorsport 5 is 1080p Native and 60FPS, Turn 10 is a very smart talented developer. Turn 10 did very well with the new programming language that Microsoft is using now for Xbox One. Some people don’t understand how hard it is for developers to work with the new “stuff”

    I am 100% sure that every other Call of Duty will be 1080p Native, Ryse 2 will be 1080p Native, TitenFall 2 will be 1080p and so on….

    If you don’t know something please don’t blame someone if you don’t know the reason.

    • Jan Václavík

      CoD was sub-HD the whole current generation, I doubt things are going to change next generation – theyll continue to recycle the same ancient engine.
      If CoD: Ghosts is 720p now, expect CoD: Ghosts 4 to be the same 720p in 2019…

      • Master Troll

        But its capable of running 4k on pc ghosts was one of the games committed to 4k resolution and thats why its 1080p allday on pc and same for PS4 now so your excuses are invalid

        • Jan Václavík

          Pretty much any 3D game can run 4K on PC (as long as the PC can output such resolution).
          I dont think its much of an excuse – CoD being most likely stuck at 720p on XBO for a whole generation sounds like bad news to me.

          • Master Troll

            No it can’t stupid nvidia put out a list of 4k games not every game runs 4k nice try but your wrong go do some more research instead of making more excuses and maybe you can come back to reality

        • Corellianrogue

          Just because something runs at 4K on the PC doesn’t mean it’s a 4K game, as in the assets probably aren’t 4K. People go on about upscaling to 1080p but games can actually have lower quality assets that are essentially upscaled to 1080p then rendered at 1080p prior to output but they’re not counted as being upscaled to 1080p because that’s the resolution they’re rendered at whereas the average game on the Xbox 360 for example is rendered at 720p then upscaled to 1080p after rendering whereas you could run N64 games on the “Dolphin” N64 emulator on a PC that could render the games at 1080p but would that mean that those games have better graphics than any 720p Xbox 360 game?

          Judging by screenshots it looks like the PS4 version of Battlefield 4 has basically “cheated” that way and has sub-720p assets but rendered them at 900p whereas the Xbox One version has at least 720p assets rendered at 720p so it actually looks better than the PS4 version despite the PS4 version being rendered at a higher resolution.

    • Roberto Merino

      So.. you have a friend who has a friend, who knows someone who knows everything about MS and Sony devkits…

      Good, Tell us more X’D

      • Corellianrogue

        No, they haven’t publicly said that the PS4 is about 50% more powerful than Xbox One despite what Sony fanboys love to believe. An ex People Can Fly developer heard from some friends that the PS4 was about 50% faster but he/they seemed to be talking about development time and that was ages ago before drivers were optimised and stuff.

        What HAS been publicly said by developers, including big time Sony fan Hideo Kojima, is that the Xbox One & PS4 are VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL in power.

        • WARLORD

          If that was true then why are all the 3rd party games 720p on the Xbox one???

          • Corellianrogue

            Please tell me how you know the resolution of ALL 3rd party Xbox One games? Also tell me why so far in general Xbox Ones exclusives look better than PS4 exclusives if the PS4 is so superior? Show me a PS4 game that looks better than Quantum Break for example? (And the Sorceror tech demo doesn’t count because it’s a tech demo.) If you go by the same criteria that people (people that AREN’T developers) are claiming the PS4 is 50% more powerful than the Xbox One then the PS3 would be about 3 times more powerful than the Xbox 360, do you think that? Lol! The Xbox 360 had many 3rd party games that had slightly higher resolution and slightly better graphics in general overall than the PS3 versions, for example Call Of Duty: Black Ops was only 960×544 and on average 40fps on the PS3 whereas the Xbox 360 version was 1040×604 and locked at 60fps.

      • Dennis Crosby

        the funny thing is only devs who said this are anonymous. but two of the smartest guys in the industry came out on record saying that both console were the same

    • Dennis Crosby

      I been hear devs say that they are having a hard time with the esram so most haven’t made use of it. but there plenty of games that run native 1080p on xbox one at launch so many people forget that its more game coming out that aren’t just call of duty and Battlefield. I watch the battlefield stream today and even at 720p it looks fantastic and titan falls is over 5 months away why are people saying it runs at 720p

      • Roberto Merino

        Yeah, it looks fantastic on… a compressed youtube video X’D let me laugh at you. Nothing rendered at 720p will look fantastic in person in 2013

        Let me laugh also at these two of the smartest guys, they are smart obviously because they did not break the agreement with companies of not talking bad about their hardware.

        But the lack of fastest RAM, ALU’s, Shaders, TMU’s, ROPS, etc is something you cannot just overlook and simply say “it is about the same”, because it is not. it is like an AMD 7770 vs 7970, there is a whole lot of diffference and i don’t need inteligent people to tell me what i see.

        You can convince yourself as much as you want.

        • Dennis Crosby

          Hope you realize that 90% of the games that came out this year are all 720p and look great with even with this old hardware

  • http://virtualgamemuseum.webs.com/ Louis

    I guess EA does not want to maximize profit on this game, it look promising, but limited access will be a problem, even Vince was not happy about this.

    • Guest

      Vince can stick it! He went from one moneymaker to another, what did he expect? And he knew about the contract allright. He’s just playing ignorant to stay nice with the paupers on NeoFAG.

  • Trag3dy

    So, Penny Arcade’s mention regarding the Xbox One’s streaming capabilities seems to indicate that, without walking across your house to a computer, you in fact CANNOT stream music from your own music library.

    Tell me that a device banking its namesake on being the “One” centralized media device doesn’t fail to offer one of the most basic functions of any decent media hub. A function that the 360 already had -_-

    The current iteration of “Play To” is not even SORT OF a replacement for such functionality, so surely their wording is just dubious and not getting the entire point across, right?

    • Dennis Crosby

      are you serious right now I hope you go on the ps4 forum and complain about this also and the fact that the only way to even listen to music on the ps4 is by there service and will cost you from $42-60 extra

  • Flawless

    LOL @ the comments getting closed on the other post because MS was getting shat on.

    • Liquidfx Xboxdude

      you beat me to it!!!

  • Steve

    Still getting an Xbox One, they already proven that games can be made at 1080p on the one by Forza. Devs just need a little more time programming for it. As for people bitching about free games on the 360, what do you care if your buying a next gen system?

    • WARLORD

      Forza is a racing game… Do you really think that the same as a FPS.. or a Action game?? Just look at Rise sons of rome … The best thy could do with all the time thy had is 900p…

      • Steve

        What ever happened to wishful thinking? ;) Truth is I don’t know, not that technologically savvy. But the systems PS4 – One are pretty similar. Unless the OS takes up too much of the resources. I don’t see why they can’t make games in 1080p for the one.

        • WARLORD

          Similar yes… But the ps4 GPU is faster and the ram is more optimized for gaming… I’m not saying you won’t see 1080p gaming on x one.. You will but at a coust of low frame rates… and a extra $100

          • Dennis Crosby

            I think it some things you guys have to remember here devs had the ps4 dev kits before the xb1 version. The xb1 version had multiple dev kits because the had to rewrite everything because of the DRM.all of Microsoft exclusive will be release at launch.sony has delayed more then have of there plus one free to play game.knack and kill some don’t have set frame rate. Killzone is sometime 60 and knack is 30-60. Both console are lacking things there both are far away from perfect because 2 games are running a higher resolution on ps4 doesn’t mean it’s a better product you have to wait a couple years before that can even be decided

          • WARLORD

            True you won’t know for some time just like this gen.. But you have a few things wrong.. Only one ps4 game was delayed.. The other game was delayed for the Xbox one too..Killzone is 1080p and 30fps for the single player.. And thy said multiply was 60 fps…as for dev not having enough time that might be true but Infinity Ward said them self the game was 720p so it could run at 60fps… Witch tells me it can’t run 1080p on the Xbox one at 60fps..

          • Corellianrogue

            Forza 5 is NATIVE 1080p at 60fps so you’re already wrong. Also Ryse’s graphics have actually got BETTER since the resolution change to 900p so it’s most likely that they decided to trade off slightly lower resolution for better graphics overall.

          • WARLORD

            Did you bother to read the post…..Forza is a racing game….do you really think that’s the same as a fps or a action game? So much more goes in to a fps then a racing game from ai to the free moving character you control and the invierment.

          • Corellianrogue

            Yes I did read the post, you said “I’m not saying you won’t see 1080p gaming on x one.. You will but not any time soon and at a cost off a extra $100″ Forza 5 is a launch game, isn’t that soon enough for you?! And so what if it’s a racing game? It has AI (better than ever thanks to cloud processing which you Sony fanboys always dismiss except when it comes to cloud streaming Gakai, lol!) and a free moving character since you can do what you like with the car although obviously you won’t win if you just drive all over the place and Forza 5 has some great environments. (The correct way to spell it, lol!)

            Ryse lowering the resolution to look better doesn’t prove the point because it already looked great at 1080p. Like I’ve said in another post higher resolution doesn’t necessarily equal better graphics unless you’re comparing 2 versions of a game with equal quality assets (so if Call Of Duty: Ghosts actually has equal quality assets to the Xbox One version but runs at 1080p then fair enough it’s better than the Xbox One version, but that’s just 1 game) for example if you take a decent PC from 2004 and run the original 1997 Tomb Raider on it at 1080p would it have better graphics than the Xbox 360 (which came out in 2005) version of this year’s Tomb Raider just because it’s “only” 720p? Lol!

      • evilfangs .

        All the time they had? It’s a port from the 360. It started out as full Kinect to controller and Kinect to only controller. They didn’t have as much time as everyone seems to think.

  • Digiadam

    Seriously who cares? You want to play Titanfall then you will need a Windows PC or an Xbox. Simple.

  • http://ninsci.weebly.com/ Ilovegoogleglass

    How’s the Xbox One at home Hyrb?

 

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