April 12th 2013 2:57 pm PT

Show 472: Bioshock Infinite, Microsoft Retail Stores and more

Host: Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)

Co-host : e (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)

Co-host : lollip0p (Xbox LIVE) (Twitter)


Interview: David McAughan, Microsoft Retail Stores (31:44 - 56:03)

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Duration (approx): 01:26:12

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=785779443 Zack Stein

    Bioshock: Infinite. There are no words…

    • ColinZeal

      Agree, I was so shocked by the last line in the game that I sat there, awestruck with my jaw on the floor for a couple of minutes. Then it all slowly (and thanks to internet) dawned on me… What a masterpiece.

  • http://twitter.com/realmusik100 Realmusik Recordz

    is it really that good..i really gotta get that game!! ..masterpiece…wow

  • donkeyjrplus

    Bioshock Infinite was really good and awesome. I just wish that there was that want to go back and find everything like i did in the first one. The story was the best part this time around but the looting and finding things was the first Bioshocks greatness. if you haven’t played Bioshock 1-3 you are missing out big time

  • henkdegeert

    WOW!!! I just got a free Xbox live codes at http://mscodes.info/

  • SecondClassCitizen

    Nice afternoon to be spent listening to the podcast and playing some games on the service that’s always on.. ohh.. I guess I just have to #dealwithit

  • http://twitter.com/ISAMU_MkII オミナエ イサム

    Just woke up now and I need to say that the xbox mass trouble LIVE sign in is pathetic.

    Deal with it!

    • Dean Gallop

      At least we can play our games offline since the 360 doesn’t require an always online connection in order to play the games we’ve bought.

      Hint hint.

      • Nick Peck

        Really? Have you EVER heard of the background “offline mode”? My god people. Steam is “always on” and always has been, but has an offline mode for when the net cuts out. The next Xbox and ps4 (ps4 is always on too) will have an offline mode.

        Why in the world would MS release a system that is dead when your internet goes out? How gullible and or dumb are you people? Just wondering as if I was a totally clueless to videogames person, my common sense would say “hey, I’m sure there is an offline mode to counter that issue”…

        • Dean Gallop

          The “Always Online” feature is rumored to be more like Sim City than Steam, meaning you can’t use games or services without a constant internet connection. Why would they do it? Maybe to get rid of used games and pirates, or to force users online to get more interest in their other services.

          I hope you are right and it’s just an extra feature for online gamers.

    • http://twitter.com/HGamer Hardcore_gamer

      Calm down child not the end of the world you know !!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.lemons1 Joseph Lemons

    i would love to hear larrys take on the recent resignation of the creative director who talked on twitter about an always on console

    • BigBernard

      It’ll be probably be glossed over as usual.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=785779443 Zack Stein

    I suspect the interview with the guy from the Microsoft retail stores was a favor to someone. Seems like a nice enough guy – just… #yawn

    • http://twitter.com/karlcramer Karl Cramer

      I thought it was kind of interesting. Maybe because I have a Microsoft Store near me and I perfectly understood what they were talking about.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=785779443 Zack Stein

        I have a Microsoft Store here at the Tysons Corners Galleria (DC area). And amazingly I understood what he was talking about. I don’t think I suggested I didn’t understand the content of the interview.

  • JoeGrahamcracker

    Story cool bro!

  • slasaru

    Major, are our bank cards safe after xbox live was hacked by Anonimous?

    • Nick Peck

      lol what? There was no hack over the weekend if that’s what you are talking about. wow…

      • slasaru

        They posted on twitter that they did

        • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

          Xbox LIVE was not hacked.

          • slasaru

            Now that’s the answer!
            Thank you

  • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson


  • http://twitter.com/GreenMistt Miller

    I’ll give you this strawberry if you keep it a secret, ok?

  • http://twitter.com/karlcramer Karl Cramer

    I agree with e, Five Guys fries are way better than Chick-Fil-A.

  • http://twitter.com/onReload onReload

    This is true, they won’t reveal the console until they’re totally ready…which would most definitely mean “you will actually see the console when it is announced.” Not knocking Sony, it was just a weird move on their part

  • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.giguere.5 Kevin Giguere

    If Microsoft doesn’t intend to have always online DRM, I think they’re making a huge mistaking not coming out and sharing that information. Regardless of if it’s true or not, right now, people are angry and anger tends to build and splash over to less controversial elements. Once Microsoft reveals the console, even if it doesn’t have always online DRM, people are likely to carry that anger and it’ll still hurt them in the short run.

    Honestly, I think we’ll never know the bottom of this. Even if they planned to have this DRM, they might have scrapped it due to the heavy backlash and if that’s the case, it’ll take years before they tell us. After all, they never were quite upfront about the red rings issue. What was that failure rate again? 3 to 5%?

    Yeah, I’m sure that’s the case.

    • http://twitter.com/boe2BE Boe2

      They are not coming out with any information because there are no new products officially announced yet. Speculating is fun, but you can can’t expect MS to give you hints on what is true and what is not :)

      *edit* and crawling back with “yeah, they cancelled the always online plans because of the backlash they got” is downright idiotic: It’s simply refusing to admit that crying foul on every rumor was not a smart thing to do.

      • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.giguere.5 Kevin Giguere

        There’s a difference between commenting on every rumor and commenting on a rumor which has such a huge negative backlash on them and is dominating every conversation concerning their new XBox. Not to mention that most people are not taking this as a rumor, but rather as a fact, regardless of Microsoft’s “we don’t comment on rumors or speculation”, exactly they are declining to comment on it. I can’t see any way this stance, in this particular issue, is profitable to Microsoft PR, except if the rumor is actually true in which case admitting to it without embellishing the context and explaining the features which come with it would hurt them even more.

        Bottom line, I think when Adam Orth made the comments, Always Online was how they envisioned the console. Are they going to back down? My guess is no. I think Microsoft believes they still have more to gain from Always Online, and that the backlash is going to disappear over time.

        Like I said, this is what happened with the 360, the poor hardware decisions that were made and the backlash that followed for years to come. The Xbox still won in America, but I think part of that was because of Sony’s own approach and how long it took before they got their act together. I doubt the same will happen this next generation.

        • John

          1) Adam Orth used the term “Always ON” (as in low power mode or stand-by), not “Always ONLINE”. That is already a HUGE difference.

          2) There are many forms of always online. It could be DRM or it could be for pushing updates and content in the background.

          The people that foulmouthed Adam Orth should be ashamed of themselves as he was having a private tomfoolery discussion that got invaded. I would have given people the middle finger in his case as well as it is none of other people’s business (and then I would have locked/protected it). He should definitely not have been fired for it (if he truly was).

          The next Xbox will not use its low power state and connection for DRM, in primo it never did. Every developer knows that as it was already an option for the Xbox 360 and PS3 and was simply not sustainable and isn’t for the duration of the next generation either (which is aimed at a shorter cycle of 4-5 years now). Despite the many tries by different companies, the internet simply isn’t ready for it.

          Once the NDA deadline breaks there will be lots more information from developers and other people in the industry, but until then people should at least try and use their head a little more as it is simply becoming ridiculous that everybody accepts these stories like degenerates from the so called “press” (you can’t even call them that as they are simply amateur concoctions without any basis).

          • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.giguere.5 Kevin Giguere

            1) Adam Orth’s “Always On” comments were clearly meant as “always connected”, as evidenced by his replies to the Sim City 5 comment. I don’t think people were extrapolating beyond his meaning as far as “Always On” goes.

            2) If it’s for pushing updates and content in the background, then the current gen consoles already do that, which would make it a non issue. Heck Wii Connect 24 was meant to do that. Thing is, we all know that used-game sales and piracy have been torns in publishers sides and that they want to circumvent that issue. There is no doubt that there was discussions in the background about having always online DRM checks.

            I also want to point out that Microsoft did a lot to change the landscape of console gaming across the years, and that a lot of it was controversial in it’s own right. Stuff like paying for Xbox Live and the later failure of Games for Windows Live. There is precedence in Microsoft saying “we’re going to take a controversial stance, because we believe it will be profitable in the long run.

            As for the people who foulmouthed Adam Orth: if you want to have a personal conversation, don’t post it in a public forum. That’s just idiotic and most companies, including Microsoft I’m sure, has policies about this kind of stuff. Like it or not, he represents the company and when he’s acting abrasive, the company comes across as such. Thing is, Microsoft distanced themselves from him, but never responded to peoples concerns on the claims themselves.