September 1st 2013 10:34 pm PT

PAX Podcast 2013

Host: Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)

Co-host : e (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)

Co-host : lollip0p (Xbox LIVE) (Twitter)

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  • todd Wright

    FIRST!

  • todd Wright

    im sorry i feel bad for doing that

  • todd Wright

    but hey xbox ftw

  • roozbeh, again

    todd is bored

    • todd Wright

      roozbeh, again is a N***ER with no life

      • roozbeh, again

        im white you racist

        • todd Wright

          i said nocker dum dum

          • Dylan

            After the edit you made…lol

          • todd Wright

            what…. no lol this guy hes crazy lol

          • roozbeh, again

            INSANITY

          • tenbob1972

            i guess they

            A) had offensive language in them.

            or most likely

            B ) they contained home truths that MS and it’s employes like to censor

  • roozbeh, again

    really? a free app for iphone on the xbox booth?
    lollipop when will you learn.

    • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

      i think people didn’t catch the irony of offering apple stuff at a microsoft booth.

  • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

    for anyone wondering, i listen to some of it and didn’t catch anything really interesting or new.

    • roozbeh, again

      well the external hard drive thing was a bummer.

      • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

        didn’t catch that one, must have skip too far. you should go all digital and use the cloud instead. save the HD for spontanious thing such as movie, music, etc. I wonder if expension pack can be save on the cloud too. i guess yes

        • Volitar Prime

          Some people have bandwidth download caps with their ISPs and high over usage charges. All downloads and cloud storage isn’t an option for everyone.

          • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

            maybe, but honestly your are not going to buy a lot of new game per month, maybe the first month, but on normal use most people will buy between 0-1 game per month with casual expension pack. At worst 10 gig of download in a month. I don’t know any ISP that doesn’t give enough DL for that. Online playing doesn’t take a lot of bandwidth. A mix of both can help other user that suffer from very very low bandwidth. Most ISP also sell extra gig for a few dollar.

            500gig is a lot untill they finish the USB driver for external hard disk. You should be ok. Let’s hope so

  • Please Clarify

    External HDD support was one of the advertised features. Now you off-handedly announce in the middle of an hour long podcast that it won’t be available at launch after all.

    I think that at the very least you could give us a date when this advertised feature will be made available.

    Or even better, give us the option to replace the pitifully small HDD with a standard issue HDD (or SSD) of our own choice.

    • roozbeh, again

      what is the likelihood of you filling up your hdd in the first few months?

      • Volitar Prime

        Very likely since every game needs to be installed to play and it is expected that they will take more space than the average XB360 game. Remember, a Blu-ray disc can hold up to 50GB.

        • roozbeh, again

          do you happen to know how many games will be 25+ gigs?
          do you have the numbers? or are you just expecting that to happen?

  • Jorge Garza

    Considering Xbox One is an “all-in-one” system, and they expect you to buy digital games (don’t forget games are bigger because of the Bluray), HD movies and music, I really hope they release a patch to allow external storage devices in the FIRST month after launch.

  • Ilovegoogleglass

    What the hell is wrong with Major,He said there will be surprises at pax it seems to be titan-fall and loco cycle are the surprises playable at pax. If this wrong this is the last day of pax.

    • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

      Both were not announced in my post, and both are at the show. Therefore they are a surprise. I guess that’s what the hell is wrong with me.

      • Ilovegoogleglass

        Sorry about that.You’re still my hero though.

        • Ilovegoogleglass

          Who down voted,show yourself!

          • Dylan

            They’re coming out of the goddamn walls!

          • roozbeh, again

            silent hill?

          • Dylan

            Aliens.

          • roozbeh, again

            I did after i saw you made that comment

        • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

          Just be respectful, that’s all I ask here in the comments. That goes for everyone. K? Cool :)

          • tenbob1972

            Is the money MS pay you worth the abuse that you seem to get daliy.?

          • tenbob1972

            including you mate.

      • Jorge Garza

        Chill pill Mr. Larry.

        I respect you, I really do. You shouldn’t get upset over a comment, you are better than that.

      • tenbob1972

        If I don’t post a honest question and put on my rose coloured glasses and post only questions that did not ask a question that MS did not want to anwser then would your mod not then take it down. Because am a consumer that buy your company s products I thought I was alond to ask qestion.

      • ickles

        Your post was either deceptive or extremely naïve about the eagerness of fans for new info. What you did damages the trust that MS is still trying to rebuild with the consumers. Getting snippy about it makes you look bad, not him.
        Toss in the off-hand removal of the already announced feature (external storage) and the vague comments that suggest that what we get may not be what was promised (full support for off-the-shelf HDDs) and you’ll see that people are worried with good reason. MS seemed to have gotten its act together (I never had a problem with the old policies but had to do a lot of research on my own to reach that conclusion as no two MS employees were giving the same answer to any given question the first two or three days after the Reveal), but seems to be moving backwards in PR in the last week.

        • tenbob1972

          Well you know it’s very hard for them to get it right when they have got fingers in there ears and they are singing at the top of there voices “ner ner we not listening” . I think that if they are trying to kill off xbox on the other hand then they ate doing a great job.

          • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

            The Xbox team spends a lot of time listening – I think that is pretty apparent by the chain of events over the past few months among other things.

          • Trent

            To be perfectly honest I preferred the original plan, but I was in the minority apparently. I feel bad that these men and women at Microsoft worked so hard at making a great product and basically had to scrap the majority of it and every time they read any feedback its nothing but negativity. Larry tell the Xbox team they’re doing a great job and I can’t wait until November to see what they been working on! Thanks!

          • roozbeh, again

            Can we be hopeful for more of this listening? because Xbox is my favorite brand and I would love if the team communicates more.

          • tenbob1972

            If MS had took the time to ask it’s customers what they wanted instead of dictating to them what is do you think that they would have had to do all the frankly embarrassing back pedals they had to do over the past few months?. Me my self I think not

        • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

          Well, the fact that Titanfall and LocoCycle were not in the original post and were playable on the floor= surprise. I will not be using the term surprise again with this audience, since it clearly means something different with this audience. Apologies. As far as HDD support, can you point me to where ‘full support for off-the-shelf HDD’s’ was promised at launch? I want to be sure I can see the context.

          • Geois

            I think the issue is that most of us read unannounced game playable and thought of a new game that we haven’t heard about yet.

      • Death Dealer

        My apologies Major, I guess people are upset because they already knew these games were playable (or at least assumed they were and that there was some other thing coming) as I posted about playing them after my GamesCom visit on here.
        I loved playing them, so from a game perspective I don’t think people should be so disappointed, but that’s just the way it goes I guess.

      • tenbob1972

        can i ask you a question .
        i know you sold 10 million of the first kinects but most of them ended up in second hand shops for around £20.

        so Why are MS making us have to buy the new kinect with xb1.
        if Ms had any balls they would ask it customers if they wanted it.

        if MS offered the system at £299 without kinect how many would want kinect.based one at £430

        i would bet that most would not.
        i know that some high level execs love kinect and that you have spent loads of cash on kinect but the truth is most of us don’t want it .
        please do me a favor and show this post to the high exec that want kinect .
        then we will see if you are putting the consume first or dictating what the consumer wants in your eyes.

        if MS is consumer freindley you will answer my question if you don’t give if you don’t care about consumers you will just delete this post just like every other post that MS does not like.

        • ZenFranklin

          More developers will innovate and make great games for it if they know it comes with every system. This has been reiterated multiple times across the internet. It’s also common sense. People give you hard time because its the same song and dance story from you every post. We get it, you don’t like Kinect! Move along.

  • Daryl Aiken

    Thanks for another podcast Major. I always love listening to them. Can’t wait until November!

    • ickles

      But WHEN in November?

      • Daryl Aiken

        We’ll know soon enough. We should hear something in the next few weeks for sure.

        • ickles

          “In the next few weeks” may as well be “centuries”, because it will feel like it. :(

      • tenbob1972

        Don’t ask that question mate I did and I was layed into like I had offend every one on this site. All I asked was if we would get a release date at pax.

        • ickles

          I read that post. The reaction you got was not based on asking when, it was the tone of the rest of the post.

          • tenbob1972

            I was only asking a question. Some times I can come off as a little harsh .i did not mean anything I justwanted to know a relase date as the place were I pte orded will not let me pay in full till they get a relase date. I have pre ordered three units snd I eant to pay for them that £1230.sitting in my pocket

  • Pegelo

    I just really need a release day so I can book my vacation days before there all taken up.

  • morgan

    I realize that specifics about a release date would be out of the question. But Major Nelson, could you maybe tell us when microsoft plans to announce the release date?

    • Pegelo

      Got my xbox one paided for 2 games forza and battlefield now I just need to know when ill get to play them. Super excited but annoyed that were 2 months out and still no date.

    • tenbob1972

      MS thinks of us as plebs and when they say we listen to our customers the truth is they don’t care about us all , they only care about is the millions they have sunk into kinects.
      that’s why we have to have kinects when we don’t want it or need it.
      ps me like most people love the way MS keeps us i the dark.

  • tenbob1972

    i just ask MN a honest question about kinect and the mod removed it . do you think that MS is listening to customers feed back or there just telling us it’s there way or the high ay.

    • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

      What was the question?

      • tenbob1972

        thank you for getting back to me i appreciate your time and the post has since be restored.

        i was asking if the exec at Microsoft truly care about their loyal consumers.

        what i mean is that the kinect is a expensive bit of kit which to be honest i don’t need and nether does the console to operate. so why can i not simply just buy the console without.?

        i don’t think am alone on this one as well am sure most would prefer a cheaper console.

        is it because Microsoft have sunk millions into this bit of plastic tat.?

        i am in my forties and am too old to be waving my arms and jumping up and down so why would i need it i also i don want to talk to a black box of electronics that’s what humans are for and ( i can turn on my tv just fine with the stand by button).

        i know that MS is in love with the kinect but you have not shown

        any justification to have the thing.

        i feel that the xbox team have blinkered vision.

        you know if i was to go into a car show room and ask to buy a car but without a radio they would sell it to me that way or like when i go to buy a computer i have choice and that’s the magic word here CHOICE. how can you tell me MS is listening when you won’t offer an option. and that what i mean when i say MS is dictating to the consumer not listening.

        ps im not new to this i been using xbox from day one and never before felt let down by Microsoft untill now.

        • Sledg

          I’m sorry but did you try the new version of Kinect and play any games that support it that don’t require waving your arms around and jumping up and down? I’m going to assume the answer is no.

          And when did 40′s become old?

          • tenbob1972

            i did not say which side of 40 am talking about.

            you not got what am saying do you ?.
            i don’t care for or want the kinect it just a piece of tat to me that add much cost to what could be much cheaper device. but MS feel that me as the consumer should not have a choice in ownership of it.

            Microsoft has not given us a reason why we must have this expensive pile of tat but i think there scared that if they offer a choice that they would end up with millions of pounds worth of sensors they can not sell.
            so what am asking is why at very least don’t they explain to consumers who want to know instead of keeping stum on the subject.

          • roozbeh, again

            they did give a few reasons, but people are just blinded by hate and ignorance

          • tenbob1972

            well you right about the hate thing ,i hate the kinect and don’t want it.

          • roozbeh, again

            Well i would give it a chance before i dismiss it.

          • tenbob1972

            Microsoft are i love with kinect and no know what they say about love being blind. if MS were giving away kinects for free then i would be happy to give it a try but there not they are charging us for it, £80 in fact.
            so as you can imagine i not happy at all about trying it.

          • roozbeh, again

            so you dont like paying for stuff?
            kinect could be the best tool in the world for all we know. i would give it a chance before people dismiss it. this is the kinect 2 so i expect different results with this one

          • tenbob1972

            wow you missed you vocation in life you should have been a Political spin doctor the way you just TWISTED my point .
            you know full well what am saying.
            MS want me to have it and pay for it .

            but i don’t want it, i never wanted it right back to the days when project natal ( the code name for kinect one) was first announced.
            i though it’s was a bad idea then and was proved right ( my brother bought one and it would not even work in any rooms in his house or mine). that kinect is now rotting in my local cash converts for the price of twenty quid and no one will buy it.and i am sure that if MS sold the new kinect separately that would be it’s fate too.
            i hope my next paragraph makes point as clearly as possible

            THE KINECT MAYBE THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD I DON’T KNOW , BUT I DON’T WANT IT NOT AT £80 NOT AT £50 NOT AT £10 NOT FOR FREE.
            IT’S JUST A PILE OF TAT THAT GETS BETWEEN ME AND THE GAMES I LOVE TO PLAY.

          • roozbeh, again

            okay, continue with your ps4 purchase then

          • tenbob1972

            what PS4 purchase do you know something i do not.? did you put in a pre order for one in my name.? if so you wasted your money am getting xbox one.

          • roozbeh, again

            I never said you preorderd a ps4.
            if you are buying a xbox one then stop complaining. you could probably sell the kinect if you wanted to. but now that you are paying for it give it a chance. once you did try it complain all you want

          • tenbob1972

            I was doing your trick and twisting what you said even though I knew full well the point you were making (you did not think for one minute that I serious about a PS 4 pre order did you) ? I thought we got to know each other better than that.
            Can you tell me tough who would be crazy enough to buy the pile of tat we know as kinect as evey who buys a xbox one gets lumbered with it .
            I mean I can not very well sell it to a PS4 owner can I.

          • roozbeh, again

            Well I could think of a good few MILLION kids that would like the kinect.
            And also no offence but I can’t really understand what you are saying. I’m not twisting anything.

  • http://raptr.com/unscleric/about UNSCleric

    Did someone literally bring a crying baby to the live show? So rude and annoying.

    • Does Not Equal

      Out of curiosity, how would one figuratively bring a crying baby?

      • Dylan

        Grab the local 24 year old white male that lives to complain at gamestop

    • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

      Yup. Someone did.

      • http://raptr.com/unscleric/about UNSCleric

        Seems your airplane luck carried over to the show finally.

  • ElektroDragon

    No Windows Phone support for Every2Minutes contest at PAX = FAIL. lollip0p showing off an iOS app but no Windows Phone app at an Xbox panel = FAIL.

    • ZenFranklin

      Actually, if you followed the show you know she develops it independently from Microsoft so she can chose where she wants to develop it. If you want to run a contest then run it on the operating system that has the most users. The fact that it wasn’t for Windows Phone is dumb, but you jump to too many conclusions to quickly.

      • ElektroDragon

        Well, the choice she made is still an insult. And Microsoft would have been well within their rights to prevent her from talking about it and saved themselves some embarrassment.

        • ZenFranklin

          I’m pretty sure you’re the minority that is embarrassed. If you’re independently (the key part your missing) developing an app, and most of the free world owns a iDevice of some kind, you’d be a fool not to develop for it.

          If she was doing it as a Microsoft employee I’m pretty sure they would have stopped her. Keep barking up a tree that doesn’t exist.

          • ElektroDragon

            Fine, develop for iOS, but at least MAKE A VERSION FOR THE MOBILE OS OF THE COMPANY YOU WORK FOR as well. Microsoft is too tolerant of insults like this.

          • ElektroDragon

            I’m not the one embarrassed, I was saying Microsoft should be embarrassed she made an iOS app and not also a Windows Phone app when she is a Microsoft employee.

        • ZenFranklin

          And after listening to the new podcast, she mentions she wanted to challenge herself to write code she is not familiar with (iOS) and writing this code is a hobby. And last I checked most normal employers don’t regulate your hobbies.

          • ElektroDragon

            Anything I code in the tech space is commandeered as company property where I work.

      • tvonthebrain

        The fact that it wasn’t for Windows Phone is hardly ‘dumb’. It’s a sign of the WP system itself. NOBODY wants this garbage any more.

        • roozbeh, again

          windows phone is fantastic. it just needs a bit more app support and it would kill iOS.

          • tvonthebrain

            Microsoft has had multiple chances to get ‘app support’ on their phones, and they’ve blown it every time. They LOST the race long ago… Rather, they never even bothered to contend. Now, they’re just trying (and failing) to make up for lost time.

          • ElektroDragon

            OK, so I supposed Google should have never bothered to make Android either since iPhone had some much market share at the time, huh? Go back to watching TV, knaive.

  • roozbeh, again

    who the hell had the bright idea to buy nokia’s phones?

    • ElektroDragon

      STFU there were TONS of them at PAX. Much more than the general population.

      • roozbeh, again

        i have a lumia idiot! im talking about microsft buying nokia.

        well it almost official. elop is gonna be the CEO of microsoft.

    • Death Dealer

      I’m guessing Stephen Elop will become the new CEO of MS.

      • roozbeh, again

        microsoft is doomed!

        • tenbob1972

          i hope not but i think that they are going about things in the most consumer unfriendly way as possible.

          they are just not listening.

          they got their fingers in their ears and they are shouting at the top of their voices ” you guys don’t know anything ,were wright and you are all wrong so if you want xbox one you will have to do things our way DEAL WITH IT”

          • roozbeh, again

            ‘wright’?
            who would you like to be CEO? plus how was your comment relevant to my comment?

    • tenbob1972

      that genius Bilmer. the same guy that showed up the highly successful surface rt o sorry it lost 900million ,maybe because had little or no apps cost £399 and had a tegra 3 soc inside same as the andriod powered £160 google nexus 7. guess which one sold best.?

      • roozbeh, again

        who?

        • tenbob1972

          Ballmer My bad

          • roozbeh, again

            less than 12 months left for us to care about him.

          • tenbob1972

            it could not come sooner ,thank god for small mercies.

    • Sledg

      What’s wrong with that idea? I can see many benefits of the this purchase. It’ll take a couple years though.

      • roozbeh, again

        nokia man… they are not super power they were a decade ago.
        its almost like buying an almost dead horse.
        it would very surprising though to see them making a comeback

  • tenbob1972

    yes i guess it wrong of me to want a choice . I’ve said many times before but if Microsoft did play fair and offered us a choice how many would buy the more expensive one with kinects.?

    i bet that it would be the smaller number.

    the thing is that kinect is not worth the extra £80 on top of the price of it’s direct competitor system and nothing that MS has shown proves that it does.

  • roozbeh, again

    http://www.reddit com/r/xboxone/comments/1ll2u1/xbox_one_external_storage_not_supported_at_launch/cc0chd7?context=3

    major said and i quote ” I actually just want to set the record straight. Not just spit out PR BS. I won’t and don’t do that. ”

    reactions?

    • Sledg

      I think Major just tells it the way it is. Of course he can’t discuss things he’s been told not to and I’m fairly certainly he would love to say more but can’t.

      I envy his job because he gets to see all the latest cool things but I don’t envy it because he can’t talk about 90% of it.

  • SoulSnatcha

    They never stated that external storage support would be available at launch. Everyone just assumed it would be.

  • Ashoholic

    Great to meet the pod-cast team at PAX! Yes, the crying baby never left the room….

  • Ilovegoogleglass

    oll

  • Ilovegoogleglass

    Already posted but this might not that significant ,but PSYCH NAH. This link speaks for its self almost broke my iPad from only reading the headline. n4g. com/news/1345792/microsoft-xbox-one-could-possibly-feature-a-powerful-discrete-gpu-core-stacked-inside-the-apu

 

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