September 6th 2013 3:46 pm PT

MNR 490: Xbox One launches November 22nd

Host: Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)

Co-host : e (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)

Co-host : lollip0p (Xbox LIVE) (Twitter)

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  • Boss

    Lollip0p is traitor should be banned for purchasing crApple devices

    • Mr XBob

      Most people at Microsoft own Apple, Sony, Nintendo, Samsung, HTC, Google etc devices. And vice-versa.

      You’re an idiot if you believe people in the technology industry live in a corporate bubble and only use the products they create and/or promote. It would be business suicide to not try out other products from other companies.

      Fanboys only exist in comment threads. Aka: you.

      • Dylan

        Totally agree, wouldn’t surprise me if most people at Microsoft own iPhones or Androids.
        I’m pretty sure it was an iPhone on stage at the Dead Rising 3 E3 demo, but it’s hard to tell (think I can see the Apple logo).

        And I doubt any of them use a Surface at work.

        Heck, even Major Nelson congratulated Naughty Dog about the Last of Us. I thought that was pretty cool.

        • Mr XBob

          Yeah they often talk about PS3/Wii U games on the podcasts, and especially iOS games.

          Though to be honest I do believe a lot of people at Microsoft use a Surface Pro at work, as it’s pretty much the only tablet that could be used in that environment! iPads and the like are far too restrictive for actual work.

          • Dylan

            Good to know. I didn’t think the Surface was adopted by the workforce. Guess I was wrong.

          • ZenFranklin

            They mentioned a few podcasts ago that everyone at Microsoft got one. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was a Surface Pro.

      • Dennis Crosby

        don’t mind that guy just a fanboy trying to troll

    • ZenFranklin

      Everyone on this show talks about other products all the time. FEED THE TROLLL!!!! XD

  • Zack Stein

    Not showing up in any of my android podcast programs. 9/1 is the last episode.

  • Herbert Waller

    I can’t wait for November 22nd! Xbox One, here I come.

    • liam

      22nd ha, don’t know it’s delayed in the netherlands…. :(

  • http://raptr.com/unscleric/about UNSCleric

    Thank you for the show. I haven’t listened yet so maybe you mention it, but is there a schedule for your planned Microsoft Store visits yet Major?

    • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

      In progress…hopefully will have some of them nailed down next week.

      • DarkMaturus

        Please tell me y’all are working on a free digital game for the US! #ItsOnlyFair

      • http://raptr.com/unscleric/about UNSCleric

        Sweet, thank you. I can’t wait to find out and then possibly start working on an excuse to get out of class in case there’s a schedule conflict. :D No way I’m missing this event.

      • ZappyKins

        Y’allz should absolutely go! It’s nice to meet them, and a bunch of friendly fellow gamers.

  • roozbeh, again

    I kept saying to myself I would never preorder. But the forza 5 bundle was just too damn good to pass.

    I’m am very weak man

    • Death Dealer

      ;)

    • Nick Peck

      haha, congrats man :D

  • AlkaWeSt

    WEP ALL, IT’S PRE-COM MY ONE ^^ +1

  • StonerSmurf420

    Got a question that I dont think ive seen asked or adressed…. the whole “xbox on” thing…. is there also an actual power button in case the voice thing stops working for wutever reason? Or if that happens the system as a whole becomes a nothing more than an overpriced brick?

    • Death Dealer

      Yes, there’s a touch sensitive Xbox logo that powers the Xbox One on.

    • roozbeh, again

      Didn’t watch the unboxing video did you?

      • John Conor

        He must have been high when it came out…lol

        • Liquidfx Xboxdude

          um…..stoners are always high. i should know, i am always stoned. i did see the unboxing and it was hilariously awkward and underwhelming.

          • roozbeh, again

            You are probably stoned right now huh?

            But the unboxing video was pretty overwhelming in my view. Mainly due to the headset.

    • evilfangs .

      Yes there is a on button. You don’t have to use Kinect to say “Xbox on” so it would be foolish to not add a power on button.

      But who the hell uses the on button anyway? I haven’t touched mine since 6 years ago when I first set up my console. I just hold down “Start” or the “guide” button on my controller to turn my console on and off.

    • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

      Yes. The white Xbox logo on the front right of Xbox One is a power button. It lights up when the console is powered on.

      • usrev

        is the light green? white?

        • roozbeh, again

          Well based on what I saw on the unboxing video it was white.

      • http://gh.linkedin.com/pub/kenneth-yaw-agyeman-badu/1b/351/482 Kenzibit

        Major Nelson, one more question. Any news on the new dashboard and whether it will be made available to the Xbox 360.@MajorNelson:disqus

  • Matt Micronaut Ahern

    guys come to the Burlington MA Microsoft store!

    • http://www.majornelson.com Major Nelson

      ;)

      • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

        i wish they come in Montreal even if we don’t have windows store… quite a large city to miss

        • liam

          i wish they come in The Netherlands even if we don’t have windows store… quite a important country to miss

      • Matt Micronaut Ahern

        :D

  • Joshua Guss

    PlayStation 4: November 15th
    XBOX ONE: November 22nd

    That’s right, save the best for last.

    Ranks:
    XBOX – 1

    PlayStation – 4

    XBOX WON

    • Morris ヅ

      X1 22nd nov
      PS4 29nd nov

      in u.k tho…

  • Andrew

    I might have to call in sick at work on the 22nd, I will probably spend the whole day staring at my door waiting for that package with my beautiful Xbox one to arrive.

    • Nick Peck

      Haha. Yah I wanted to stay home but since I’m having it shipped to work I don’t have much of a choice :p I’m downloading all of my games and I have a very fast cable line at work so I’ll be queuing them up and letting everything download so it’s ready when I get home.

      Though I won’t lie, I will be playing some stuff when I’m able to at work!!

    • evilfangs .

      I’m going full geek loser mode and going to the midnight release.

      • Morris ヅ

        im going midnight and aint looking to go bed til 6,7,8am lol

    • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

      the problem is, you never know at what time they are going to ship, could be at 17h00

  • Raymond marshall

    What is the power consumption of the xbox one and I only access the internet through my mobile phone only to redeem game code can I do the same with xbox one and I play games offline?

    • evilfangs .

      Yes you can play games offline after the internal setup of your console.

      About power consumption.

      “In answer to a question about power consumption, Microsoft told German site 4players, “When it’s ready to respond to “Xbox
      On” it uses about 14 watts, which is about five US cents (or about four
      Euro cents) per day. In its lowest power state, Xbox One uses only a
      half watt, which is less than about a half a U.S. cent or one-third of a
      Euro cent per day.”

      Coincidentally, that half watt usage in the lowest power state is to
      comply with energy consumption standards in various countries”.

      • usrev

        it will use much more than that when playing a game though.

        a laptop uses 95-125w usually, the xbone will probably use about 300w after the upclock on the cpu.

  • roozbeh, again

    I believe your cable box will work regardless if connected to your xbox one.

  • Verachi

    I’ve been hearing a rumor that the DRM policies might be implemented in the future, is this true? After you guys took out the bad policies I was started considering buying the Xbox one but if you guys plan on bringing it back up in the future then I’m not interested on this console. Does anybody have a link to prove or disprove this rumor?

    • roozbeh, again

      I have been following this quite closely. And it seems it is coming back. But not the way you think.
      Albert pennello said on newgaf that they are probably bringing it back as an option. Like you can choose to participate and reap the digital rewards or you could just stick with disc based DRM. So we are probably gonna have no issue.

      • Verachi

        I heard that rumor on Neogaf but I didn’t see that Albert’s reply. Could you give me a link to that thread?

        • roozbeh, again

          http:// http://www.neogaf. com/forum/showpost.php?p=78612989&

          ” You can imagine a world where we have both types of models at the same time. “

    • Death Dealer

      People need to think a lot more before they blab all that nonsense, especially all those fools on NeoGAF and N4G that call themselves gamers and are nothing but fanboys.

      NO, it will not come back the way it was because the entire infrastructure they had in place needed to be changed to make this “180″ happen.
      Major can say “flipping switches” all he wants, it is in fact far from the case, even if it is only software.

      Some fool on NeoGAF is running wild with the assumption it might come back because Albert Penello said that some of the very much wanted features that were in the previous Xbox Live DRM system might come back (Family Sharing). But that will never be with a once in 24 hour check in as that would split Xbox Live feature wise for all the games.

      What you WILL see if Family Sharing is coming back, is that the check while playing those games is a permanent connection because MS will verify the license is not being abused. That was what the 24h check was for and that is now gone, so the only way to recheck is with an internet connection.

      That’s the PS fanbase, not using their heads and making false assumptions on everything from the competition because they know very well that Family Sharing is awesome in concept and will change the way we all play games.

      • Nick Peck

        It is amazing how people take garbage as fact now a days isn’t it? I get annoyed so fast and wish I could say how I really feel about the moronic fantards but I would be banned everywhere :D

    • Nick Peck

      So by saying “rumors” you mean off of other message boards? LOL, do yourself a favor and don’t bother going by what the mass sea of retards are saying.

      • Verachi

        You’re right I shouldn’t listen to the retards that got the Durango DRM rumor right. I didn’t take the rumor as a fact I took it as a rumor, that’s why I’m trying to figure out why this rumor even surfaced. Has MS officially said they will never bring the DRM back? I don’t want to sound rude but I don’t care what you think I want a statement made by an official MS employee. For an example Death Dealers comment is good and informative but he doesn’t work for MS neither does he speak for them, so whatever he says is his opinion on this issue and that’s not what I’m looking for.

  • Ironmanxrs2

    Major Nelson – I really hope that there is a major reveal after the NDA expires to answer some perceived performance shortfalls. Otherwise, the ships in trouble.

    Can you confirm if tiled resources from DirectX 11.2 are hardware supported in the one?

    P.S. I hate Playstation fanboys and they’re strutting all over the yard like peacocks right now.

    • david_hoyland

      I wouldn’t get your hopes up for anything significant, MS done goofed with the X1 hardware. 1.3 Tflops to last 10 years? – yeah okay. Microsoft need multiplatform game parity otherwise the Xbox brand will become a joke.

      If there is any as yet unannounced hardware in the X1 my guess is it could be dedicated stuff for the rumoured Fortaleza AR glasses.

      P.S I am getting an X1 but would be lying if I said I was happy with the hardware it contains :(

      • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

        well a low-end pentium 3 did last 10 years in the x360 and even more since it’s not gonna die for another 2-3 years

        • david_hoyland

          The 360 was pretty much top of the line hardware when it came out. The X1 not so much.

          I can understand MS wanting to change Xbox into an all in one media machine. What they shouldn’t have done though is gimp the hardware to achieve it. Now MS are at risk of losing the core fanbase i.e. the people who made Xbox a success in the first place.

          If the X1 can achieve similar performance to the PS4 then fine but if not it will struggle with core gamers, especially with the higher price tag.

          • Nick Peck

            The problem is, there are to many people looking at this like a pc only fantard. So just because the XBO’s specs, the ones we know and understand, are a TAD behind the ps4′s, all of the fans are going to walk away because of that?

            Really? I don’t know about you, but I’m buying this system because they have consistently showed the BEST next gen games and some very interesting and wanted features / options vs. the “better hardware” ps4.

          • david_hoyland

            I too am buying the X1 first and foremost for it’s games, controller, LIVE etc etc. That doesn’t mean I am still not a TAD dissapointed with the hardware.

          • Nick Peck

            Once you play and see what it can do, you wont care about the hardware. We still don’t know everything about it yet. Did anyone care about the NES / SNES / Genesis / Saturn / Dreamcast / PSX’s hardware? :D

            Cool, hope you enjoy it when you get it man. What launch games are you looking at getting?

            Oh also, I wasn’t calling you the pc only fantard, that’s my new general term to “those” guys haha. Just so you know.

          • david_hoyland

            Forza, Dead Rising, KI, BF4 and COD most likely.

          • Nick Peck

            Nice! They all look like fun, can’t wait.

          • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

            top of the line ? we certainly don’t use the same dictionary…
            It was low-end, only the excellent optimization from developper and microsoft resulted in such a powerfull console. They achieve incredible performance boost with hardware bios revision and software optimisation.

          • Nick Peck

            Actually the video card was the best on the market for like 4-5 months until the newer pc video cards came out :)

          • david_hoyland

            LOL

          • usrev

            the 360 at launch was comparable to pretty high end stuff when it came out. the ps3 actually had a weaker gpu but cell was much better at other things (just incredibly hard to develop for) this is why games like the last of us STILL look amazing even compared to pc games.

            I’m not to worried about it though, consoles don’t need to have pc graphics because on a pc you are 2 feet from the screen with a tv you are like 6feet from a screen. with 60fps and 1080p for most titles games will look much better now and feel smoother.

          • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

            I think you all miss the point… The x360 have very old hardware, very slow one and does deliver amazing graphic today that it could not deliver the first year. This is all due to very good tweaking and development. This is what count and this is why im convince that x-one will be a great platform for many years, plus it uses the cloud to offloud a bit of work

          • usrev

            it doesn’t really offload much work to the cloud that is BS the ms tried to pull and has been called out on on pretty much every website out there.

            the best part is, even game devs have basically said all the “cloud” is for them is dedicated servers.

            realistically the ps4 is more powerful and honestly can do the cloud things xbox one can do. the difference is they haven’t really talked about it short of gaikai. the only real question is will devs use all that power, and I’d bet they will especially with sony’s large first party studios. look at ryse, it’s aleady announced to be 720p instead of 1080p. It’s a bit worrisome.

          • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

            stating it does 1080 doesn’t mean much if it doesn’t have enough AA. I’M also wondering about 3d capability. On the 360, graphic quality really does down when you switch to 3D mode. not that i play a lot in 3D, but it’S sometimes very fun.

          • beardyman3218

            In regards to 3d the reason for this is not many games if any are native 1080p so to put 3d in 1080p it would look worse thans what it currently does, it also takes a lot of power to push out the two half images at once, i believe xbox one is 1080p 3d. I just hope more games have a 3d option, i think ALL games should at least have the option for 3d, i played gears of war 3 in 3d and just WOW. Looking down hallways is mind boggling and blowing up tickers is really good in 3d. Some people are stuck on the notion of 3d being like the old red and blue glasses, its not, it actually works now. Even converting 2d to 3d gives games more depth, i cant wait for a VR headset.

          • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

            you can only hope for oculus to be adapted, but they already stated its not in their short term perspective.

            as for 3d on 360, the 360 just cant render 2x30fps at full graphic resolution. The worst one i saw was nba 2k. the 3D is so bad, very poor graphic making it unplayable. OPS did a great job

          • beardyman3218

            The best 3d i have seen in games has been gears of war 3 and silent hill downpour. I just hope more games offer this option.

          • beardyman3218

            Exactly, its not horsepower that determines what it can do, its the balance between components and optimization that makes the machine powerful. People talking about gddr5 all the time like its king of the world, from what i have seen and read about xbox one’s specs the esram coupled with ddr3 not gddr ram will perform equally if not better than gddr5 not to mention less stress on one component.

          • StudioMultimédia Gon’Interacti

            i underclock my memory to achieve better overclocking on my pc. Pretty confident with microsoft development team. No matter how bad people talk about them, they just don’t realise sometimes how amazing stuff they can deliver.

      • Nick Peck

        See, people that don’t fully understand how a closed system works, sees things like you. There is a ton of power to be harnessed once dev’s fully understand the architecture. This is why I love closed platforms vs. open because you can actually do more with them once you find / create shortcuts.

        There’s more to the systems specs than everyone knows as all the sites that have looked at it still don’t have a clue to several things and I’m guessing that’s because MS has to wait for AMD to announce some stuff before MS can really talk about it.

        Don’t forget they did bump up the cpu/gpu a bit which is nice. How many tflops did the 360 create to last 8 years so far, and to be around for another 3 (supported)? Trust me, you will never see a game on the ps4 that will look any better than anything the XBO can do.

        I’m not saying I fully understand everything, but from what I have read and listened to, it’s no slouch at all and again, once everyone understands the other things they aren’t sure on we could see some more raw power that reviewers don’t know about. Either way, I’m not worried, MS’s game lineup kills sony’s imo.

        • david_hoyland

          Of course I understand closed systems etc. That doesn’t change the fact that it could still have been more powerful than what we have now.

          I wouldn’t hold out for any NDA / AMD / Volcanic Islands stuff either. That all sounds like pipe dreams to me.

          • Nick Peck

            I’m not necessarily talking about the Volcanic Islands stuff, while that sounds cool I’m not so sure on it myself. There are still a few other things that I have consistently read that people aren’t so sure what “this means” or why this is “that way” type of stuff. The clusters of esram and how they are to be used being another.

            The XBO has a sophisticated architecture that I can’t wait for MS to fully explain. They just did an interview with Arsif (i forget his name but it’s something like that lol) and he even said he’s excited to be able to fully explain everything when he’s able to. So even he is basically saying he’s not able to talk about something.

            It’s in the article where he said the ps4 is NOT 30% more powerful than the XBO. People just look at the raw #’s and that’s not how you measure systems like this at all, they don’t operate or work exactly like a standard pc for games.

            Can’t wait to see what the rest is as it always sucks to know know everything haha.

    • xjumper

      there is no secret NDA… we know everything about the Xbox One specs now. Stop dreaming and come back to reality.

      • Nick Peck

        No, we don’t. There are a few things that we have to wait to hear about for some reason. That Arsif (? again not sure on his name) even said he can’t wait to talk about a few things when he’s allowed.

        Either way, nothing on the ps4 will look better than the XBO anyways, so it’s no big deal at all.

        • usrev

          every developer out there has pretty much said ps4 is 50% or so faster. it might not LOOK better, but it will probably run smoother.

          look at killer instinct, they had to drop the resolution to 720p, while killzone shadow fall is 60fps and 1080p.

          • liam

            stop talking BS
            Killer instinct was running 1080p 60fps on E3 already
            and Killzone shadowfall has only been seen at 30fps
            the only PS4 that we know has 60fps for sure is driveclub

            (x1 also has forza at 60fps 1080p at E3)

          • roozbeh, again

            Killer instinct I think was confirmed to be 720p at 60fps. I would be very happy though if I happen to be wrong.

          • usrev

            dice never said it looked or played better on xbox one, hate to break it too you but that is just a load of bs.

          • Dylan

            Source on Dice quote?

          • roozbeh, again

            Even though I agree the ps4 is more powerful, no dev before the people can fly guy said 50%.
            Also he kinda eat his own words on a GAF thread.

          • usrev

            plenty of devs have, try googling it.

          • roozbeh, again

            I have. besides the guy at war thunder and this bozo no one else said there was a negligible difference

          • Nick Peck

            30-50% is absolute BS. Killzone SP is running at 30fps while the graphical downgraded MP is bumped up to 60fps.

            Man, you need to do some reading (not on forums) for your facts lol.

          • Dylan

            Did you just compare a fighting game to a wide open shooting game?

            KI better be 60 frames! There aren’t very many variables going on there.

          • Nick Peck

            Actually there are a ton of variables going on in a fighting game even though you might not notice a lot of it. There are a ton of effects going on with how detailed everything is. But they are just making sure it runs blistering fast with no lag / stuttering.

            I guess they have had a lot of stuff added to the game but then taken out because it would cause the frame rate to dip below 60.

          • Dylan

            Right, but it should easily be able to go 60 FPS.

            It’s just a matter of whether it does that efficiently or not.
            I believe Street Fighter 4 had scalable FPS. as competitive fighting is so important in that franchise.

          • usrev

            um, the “graphically downgraded multiplayer” still looks incredible, and 1080p 60fps, how bout that killer instinct at 720p, a fighting game for crying out loud.

          • roozbeh, again

            shadowfall single player is 30 fps at 1080p.
            multiplayer is 60fps at 720p.

            try googling that

      • Morris ヅ

        give it a rest theres alot we dont know about X1 n PS4 so just go away.

  • Benny Janssen

    Looking forward to hear a launch date for Belgium major

    • liam

      and for The Netherlands!

      • evilfangs .

        Import it. :)

        • liam

          nah i’m playing bf4 on pc and GTA V, Watchdogs until it launches
          and i get 2 free games with my x1
          seems like a win win for me

          • Morris ヅ

            2 free games really?

          • liam

            EU gets 1 free game
            and i get a free game as a apology for the delay

          • Morris ヅ

            day one only? or all get a free game no matter if its day one?

          • liam

            only people who pre orderd the day one
            still wondering if i get the day one edition now that it’s delayed in the NL
            because i need that achievement O_O

          • Morris ヅ

            i think day one you will get 2 until the limited Day Ones are gone , and standard ones you’ll get a free game for a limited time

          • liam

            hope it launches jan/feb can’t wait for the new controller.
            and of course DR3

          • Morris ヅ

            yes i hope worldwide gets it by then but i think you guys may get it march or latest by time when titanfalls out.

          • liam

            can’t wait longer that april or i’m going to lose my sh*t
            but anyway good night :)
            see ya on the battlefield ;P

          • Morris ヅ

            looooool i would be the same if it didnt come U.K but if you cant wait just get it off amazon or something but no free game only downer, if the wait is that painful jus import the bad boy :)

          • evilfangs .

            It isn’t going to take Microsoft 5 + months just to sort out localization and languages for these counties that have to wait till 2014.

            January I’m guessing is when you will get your Xbox one.

          • Morris ヅ

            il have mine on the 22nd thanks, and you never know how long thats why they said “2014″ no specific time frame.

          • boe2

            As far as I understood: day 1 gets 1 free game for being “special”. The delayed countries also get 1 free game for being late.

  • FoxHoundR – NO LONGER TROLLING

    Xbox one is going to dominate. Best console ever created!

    • roozbeh, again

      No console is gonna dominate. It is probably gonna be neck and neck.

      • Morris ヅ

        and for this its better for “Us” the consumers

      • Dylan

        Depends on your definition of dominate.

        And if market share or actual profit factor in to that definition.

        • roozbeh, again

          I meant market share

          • Dylan

            I think this gen was the closest one yet.

            This next one is very important to the future of consoles, and could be a deciding factor in if Microsoft wants to continue their brand.

          • roozbeh, again

            Microsoft? Respectfully I disagree.
            Nintendo is the one under pressure right now. Microsoft has no real problem compared to them

          • Dylan

            There have already been analysts predicting a possible sale of the Xbox brand to Samsung. Or was it a recommendation? I don’t remember.

            Microsoft is up in the air right now. I’m not saying that they couldn’t continue, I’m just wondering if they want to. And this gen could decide that.

          • roozbeh, again

            The split? Some stupid stock holders asked for it once. Then Bloomberg brought it back up recently. Not happening.

            The profit margins are pretty decent and it is Microsoft’s only device in people’s homes worldwide.
            I believe it is in their best interest to continue to xbox brand. And by the events that have unfolded in the last few months they probably want it to be successful badly.

          • Dylan

            I should probably state again, I’m not saying that they can’t continue the brand. They make good amounts of money obviously, and even if they didn’t, Microsoft is made of money and can take the hit.

            I’m not sure they want to, and they seem to not understand their market, and don’t have leadership.
            I think this generation is important, as it’ll gauge their future plans.

          • roozbeh, again

            Look at my previous comment.
            “it is Microsoft’s only device in people’s homes worldwide”
            And with their new approach being a devices and services company it is their only device that fits the profile. Well unless the lumia takes off.
            In my view they not only want to, they probably have to.

            I don’t think they are lost. It probably is a momentary thing

          • Dylan

            Interesting. Are you saying they need the Xbox brand because Surface, Windows Phone, and Zune were duds? That Xbox is now the only way for them to get into that market?

            Huh. I thought Xbox was a small part of their umbrella. I figured Windows is enough to keep them afloat no matter what. Didn’t think of it that way.

          • roozbeh, again

            I’m saying until one of the mentioned devices lifts off, the xbox brand will be their only real successful device. And if you look at it carefully you can see Microsoft has put all it’s eggs on one basket(the xbox one).
            They really are making a huge push with the xbox one for the larger demographic of none gamers while appeasing gamers and publishers. Put have horrifically failed at communicating it and with a pretty high price point they are gonna have to prove it’s worth. The kinect either proves itself worthy and a new big thing or it gets sacked in favor for a lower price point. That is the problem with their new strategy as a device’s company.

            But windows is still enough to keep them afloat. Heck office is enough to keep them afloat. They are just trying for markets they have no control on. Steve ballmer’s strategy was always that.

            That is my take of the situation

          • Nick Peck

            Surface and Windows Phone are not duds, it takes more than 1 to 2 years to penetrate the market against other devices that have a nice head start. They are gaining ground slowly and will continue to grow.

            Zune was great and had much better software but unfortunately hit just as the ipod was exploding, no one could have taken on apple at that time (in that market).

            Windows / Office are still a HUGE part of MS, but they are slowing laying the foundation for the “services” section of the company. Sure, they had some miss direction in leadership, it happens, but they did a good shake up to fix that problem.

            Look at sony, they had to sell off a lot and restructure to stay alive.

          • beardyman3218

            Xbox is one of their most profitable brands thats why they may split it so people will have shares in xbox which i could imagine would rake in the money.

          • Nick Peck

            It was a recommendation by a stupid bored member. MS won’t sell the Xbox brand, they make way to much money off of it.

          • roozbeh, again

            “bored member”
            loooooooooool

          • Nick Peck

            I put it that way because it’s the same tool that wants the company to totally part out and sell everything off lol, everyone is sick of that guy.

          • roozbeh, again

            Nice way to put it. So fitting tbh

          • beardyman3218

            No they were thinking about xbox becoming its own brand, still partnered with microsoft but they feel the xbox is that strong and sales have been so good that it can survive as its own brand.

          • beardyman3218

            I agree Nintendo’s relying on the 3ds, its the only thing keeping them afloat, wii u isnt selling anywhere so they will have major losses from that and what happens when the 3ds come toward the end of its cycle, will they have another portable console like 3ds?

          • roozbeh, again

            2ds is already announced so they are trying for another portable

          • beardyman3218

            I think that will cause more confusion, especially with parents, the average parent will look at it and say weres the 2ds games i only see 3ds games, not to mention its not very portable, if yor hoping to fit that in your pocket you better be wearing clown pants :)

  • roozbeh, again

    What a slow news day.

    • Dylan

      The most recent news is that the Timesplitters HD Remake is not coming to Xbox One because it doesn’t support cross-platform play.

      Since Microsoft controls the PC market (obviously), I wonder why they don’t support it.

      • roozbeh, again

        I believe they tested it once. The results were quite bad for the console gamers. And to be honest i’m happy they aren’t doing it. It causes a bad disadvantage for the console owners

        • Dylan

          Yes the mouse vs controller is an obvious imbalance. But you can use a mouse on console.

          Plus, it worked very well for Portal 2.

          • roozbeh, again

            I don’t believe it will still balance it out. Partly cause most console gamers would probably not bother.

            I believe it is a good concept, but with online shooters it just doesn’t work.

          • Dylan

            Why not leave the option for developers?
            With the new cloud system, it should be extremely easy.

          • roozbeh, again

            Honestly I think they should though for some games. Specifically none FPS games.

            Like final fantasy, That game is not on xbox for that reason only.

            They should make it an option for some devs. Especially now that they are pushing a connected world. And they probably will under pressure

      • Nick Peck

        I never liked those games anyways :p

        However it would be neat to see if they do it down the road.

        • Dylan

          You never liked Timesplitters?

          I thought they were awesome, and really when Crytek was at their best. The stories were so crazy and fun.

          I don’t remember playing much multiplayer though.

          • Morris ヅ

            game was good but gave me headaches lol

          • Michael Burden

            Crytek never made any Timesplitters games, that was Free Radical Design who was purchased by Crytek a couple of years ago. The original Far Cry and the Crysis series are the only games put out by Crytek so far.

          • Dylan

            Yes, well I figured no one would recognize that name.

            Crytek UK is Free Radical, and Free Radical is Crytek UK now.

          • Michael Burden

            Not even close – what was left of Free Radical was nothing but an empty shell before Crytek purchased them, they only had 40 employees remaining (and I doubt that many of them were game designers). All Crytek really got out of the purchase was the rights to the Timesplitters’ IP and assets, but really none of the talent as they had all gone on after the bankruptcy. What was left of Free Radical may now be called Crytek UK, but Crytek is in no way Free Radical as that company is long dead.

      • Nick Peck

        I wanted to like them but they always ended up being kinda meh when they could have been so much more. Maybe it’s just me lol, but I always tried to play them but got bored really fast.

    • Nick Peck

      It is sunday lol, no one really works over here since it’s the weekend :D

      • roozbeh, again

        Weekends, gotta love ‘em.

  • roozbeh, again

    http:// gamerant .com/savage-frontier-xbox-one-revealed/

    Seems xbox has one more exclusive

    • evilfangs .

      Savage Frontier could be anything from a game to a movie / TV show exclusively for Xbox one.

      Could even be the name for that Halo TV show announced back months ago.

  • Snake eyes 211

    Is the US getting something that the Europeans are not with their Xbox one day one edition in the box ?

    • roozbeh, again

      NFL.

      • Snake eyes 211

        By the time the Xbox1 comes out the NFL will be more than halfway over not a good incentive to get an Xbox1

        • roozbeh, again

          what? why would it matter that if would be halfway over? does the second half of the season suck?

          • Snake eyes 211

            If somebody’s team is not doing well yes it could suck :-(
            Anyway I think most people buying Xbox one is for games not apps especially when there’s a pay wall in front of apps

          • roozbeh, again

            Good luck finding the amount of apps the xbox one has on another games console.
            You don’t know that. People could like the large amount of apps despite the paywall

          • Snake eyes 211

            Maybe you need some clarification I paid off my Xbox one to play games not watch apps and I have other devices such as my iPad that I can watch almost every single app that they have on Xbox without a pay wall and stream it to my TV

          • roozbeh, again

            I meant other people(emphasis on other) could like it.

            Not meaning you

          • Snake eyes 211

            You’re right and I’m sure the people will love it especially the snapping and switching between stuff I’m just very excited for Xbox1to be in my home

          • Dylan

            It does if you’re a Raiders fan ;)

          • Snake eyes 211

            LOL

          • roozbeh, again

            Even though I hate the sport, I have a weird attraction towards the Steelers.
            Raiders lol

          • Liquidfx Xboxdude

            yeah, like maybe 20 years ago.

  • Snake eyes 211

    Why do I have to spend $620 to get the full Xbox1experience ? Because I need a gold membership and a game :-( EU GETS A FREE GAME

    • slasaru

      Man, to get this free game we have to spend almost 200 dollars more because of euro prices, it’s not one to one

      • Snake eyes 211

        But over there you actually make more money than we do

        • slasaru

          No way, and you must have heard about european taxes
          But anyways, i understand you, but FIFA is not the thing to envy. Usually there are millions of bundles console + football or sports, and you cannot even resell such crappy games then

          • Snake eyes 211

            Yeah I heard you. You pay a lot of taxes over there so you’re right

      • Snake eyes 211

        Microsoft should show a little loyalty to the consumers that make up 70% of their sales and give them a free game as well as I’m speaking about north America US and Canada

    • roozbeh, again

      Oh god, when will it stop?

      • Snake eyes 211

        When I feel that US is getting enough value in the package of the Xbox one

        • roozbeh, again

          Then don’t buy it if you think it ain’t worth it

  • Raymond marshall

    How powerful is the xbox one than the xbox 360 and how does the cpu and gpu And the esram work

    • Nathanzz

      It seems to be powered by some sort of electricity.

      • Dylan

        1.21 GIGAWATTS!!!!?????

    • Xboner2013

      1.23 TFLOPS Xbox One GPU

      .24 TFLOPS Xbox 360 GPU

      32mb ESRAM I believe

      • Nick Peck

        The video card is highly customized and runs games a lot better than the vanilla card it’s based off of. Defiantly not a low end card when you take into account the modifications these things go through during development.

        It’s cheaper to buy a mid grade card and customize it than it is just buying a higher end card.

      • Snake eyes 211

        Couldn’t agree with you more it is a low and PC

        • beardyman3218

          You cant compare any console components to pc, it may be outdated on pc but the combination and customization in a console is something you will never get in a pc, there is no pc on the market with these components so pointless comparison.

      • roozbeh, again

        Steam just had a survey, most gaming pc’s have worse specs then the xbox one. TV is more powerful than what most pc’s it seems.

        And considering it is $500 how much would a pc of the same specs without the customization cost?

      • Karl Cramer

        Compare the specs of the Xbox 360 and PCs at that launch time. The 360 by comparison was woefully underpowered, but here’s the twist, since it’s a custom system and the devs have one set of hardware to optimize to, the 360 versions often looked better. Now, of course, 8 years later, PC specs have brute forced past the 360, but here we go again.

  • Ivanx360xpira

    So much people complaining about TFLOPS. Personally, I don´t care much about hardware specification, just look how developers pushed the boundaries in the current gen (Skyrim, Tomb raider, Halo 4…etc etc etc…), compare with games that were released at the beginning of Xbox 360 existence, it´s the very same hardware…but the graphic quality got exponential. It´s more how the developers will take advantage of the hardware the architecture…and, at least for me, not always the best looking game is the funniest…

    • Karl Cramer

      When people talk about teraflops and counting pixels, you’re argument is meaningless. No one ever played a game and said, “Man, I liked that game but I wish it had more teraflops.” The only time platform differences matter is if it’s significantly different or one platform is fundamentally broken. (See PS3 Skyrim.)

    • Volitar Prime

      Skyrim and Tomb Raider are bad examples because both look much better on a PC.

      • Logan5

        So did your PC cost $399 in 2005 and without any hardware upgrade is able to run Skyrim as well as the 360 does now? Didn’t think so. That’s a flawed comparison.

  • Snake eyes 211

    I guess 500 GB of memory is enough? no it’s not especially when you have to install every games apps and updates etc. but we should be happy we’re getting a sticker :-/

    • Sledg

      I’m pretty sure you won’t run out of space within the first year. But hey, at least you changed it up instead of complaining about a free game.

      • evilfangs .

        His next post is about the price of the Xbox one and complaining about the free game.

        • Snake eyes 211

          Grow the F up I complain about what I want too

          • evilfangs .

            “Grow up” Asks to be my friend on Xbox live. Lol.

          • Snake eyes 211

            Hey Daniel I hear your mom calling you. you’ve only been a four-year member of Xbox. go raise your gamer score

          • evilfangs .

            Tell me to grow up while stalking me online. This irony must escape you.

            Sad sad lonely boy.

          • Snake eyes 211

            I just try to comment on things that are important to me and then trolls like you that have nothing better to do the whole day but to leave negative replies on other people’s comments

          • evilfangs .

            Just about every comment of yours is you complaining and crying about trivial things like not getting a £39.99 free game, or your 500GB hard drive not lasting a mire 6 months – one year before Microsoft allow external hard drives.

            Just about everyone dislikes you and your comments here and it shows with the amount of down votes you get constantly.

            “Trolls like me have nothing better to do the whole day”
            This coming from the same person who just asked to be my friend on Xbox live just so you could stalk me and find out my real name / Gamerscore etc. Then come onto this blog just to boost your ego about how long you have played a video game console and more gamerscore you have got then me.

          • Snake eyes 211

            If you do a little more reading and a little less talking you will see go to IGN or Xbox wire and you’ll see that they’re not supporting external hard drives they said they would eventually but eventually could be six months or year 2 or 3

          • evilfangs .

            Your whole post contradicts yourself.

            “You’ll see that they’re not supporting external hard drives”
            “They said they would eventually”

            So are they or aren’t they?

            Major Nelson said Xbox one will not support external hard drives at launch but we will support them in near future.

          • Nick Peck

            They said they ARE supporting them, just not on day one. I highly doubt it will be very long before they add that in. I bet within the first update or two at most.

          • Snake eyes 211

            I hope you’re right and that they’re just not planning on making a proprietary one

          • Nick Peck

            Nah, I wouldn’t worry about that, but if they did I would seriously question it lol. Nah, they said all externals will work, luckily I have a few usb 3.0 drives I’m not using right now so I’ll be ready.

          • Snake eyes 211

            Cool man thanks for the info

          • Snake eyes 211

            I don’t care if people like me or dislike me this is not a popularity contest we are not in middle school grow up and like I said I would never want to be your friend

          • evilfangs .

            “I don’t care… it’s not a popularity contest”

            Goes on to down vote all my comments lol. You do realize I haven’t down voted not one of your comments.

            “I never want to be your friend”

            Just wanted to stalk me lol. “Grow up” Irony is at the max here.

          • Snake eyes 211

            You lack gaming skills:-/ I would never ask you to be my friend

          • Nick Peck

            Good, do it elsewhere, we don’t care :)

    • Nick Peck

      Cry more? Uninstall stuff you don’t use anymore, or, gasp… get an external HD O.o. I know, mind blown, amirite?

      • Please Clarify

        An external HDD won’t help, as that feature has been indefinitely postponed.

        • Nick Peck

          It’s just not available at launch, but I doubt it will be that long before they add it in.

          • beardyman3218

            It will be added in 2014 i have read on most websites but i cant understand why its not there from launch. I wont fill up the 500gb in the first year but it would be nice to know the feature is available if i need to use it. Im not buying an external drive till i know its supported.

    • ebonyglock

      Why not use the cloud? That’s what it’s there for.

  • Nick Peck

    Just incase anyone knows, do any of the games that they are doing the $10 upgrade offers allow you to transfer the 360 save games to the XBO via cloud storage or anything? I’m not planning on using this “deal” but I was just wondering because if I did, I wouldn’t want to start all over again :D

    Not sure if I missed this bit of info or not but as far as I know you can’t. I just know that once I finish ACIII I’m going to want to play something and I’m kind of on the fence about GTAV at the moment.

    • evilfangs .

      I know Fifa 14 and Call of Duty: Ghosts allows you to continue on the Xbox one with all your stats from Xbox 360.

      I’ll try find the site which said this.

    • evilfangs .

      Well I did answer your question but I guess it got deleted because I posted links to the sites.
      I’m not sure if you saw that post or not. So here I try again. :)

      Fifa / Ghosts / Madden and maybe BF4 all let you transfer your stats from 360 – Xbox one.

      • Nick Peck

        Yah I remember the stat transfer, so I guess they probably don’t do anything with game saves then. I wasn’t really considering it since the games don’t come out till Nov. for the most part anyways.
        Thanks.

        • evilfangs .

          I’ve decided to wait and get the games on next gen instead of Xbox 360. Games like AC4 and Watch dogs.

          Games like GTA and Batman which aren’t on next gen I’ll just get on 360 and hope these games don’t get a surprise announcement of Xbox one launch titles.

          • Dylan

            Yeah, wait on Watch_Dogs. The current gen version looks horrible.
            The next gen version looks fantastic.

          • Nick Peck

            I think Disqus is having issues today, just had a long post not post… uugghhhh.

            As I was saying, I’m holding out for the next gen versions as well mostly because I’m digitally downloading them so I wouldn’t want a disc version back.

            As for the 360, I’m not trying to spend any more money but I’m interested in GTAV and Batman… but I’m not sure yet.

          • evilfangs .

            I really do want to go all digital but even though I hate used games I just love to trade in my games to get another new release.

          • Nick Peck

            Yah so do I so I hope that digital trade / sell platform MS talked about happens at some point. Generally I only get the games I will always play / keep as downloads and the games I plan on beating and never touching again as disc versions.

            But so far all of the launch games I’m getting I have no problem with keeping. The only disc versions I’m contemplating are lego marvel and watch dogs.

          • Dylan

            I think this might be the year that Call of Duty is dethroned.

          • roozbeh, again

            Don’t underestimate the power of little kids

          • Dylan

            Activision already has lowered projections. They don’t expect it to sell as well as the last few.

            Maybe GTA 5 will outsell it?

          • roozbeh, again

            I really want that to happen, but I just doubt it

          • beardyman3218

            The pre order numbers for gta are meant to be the most any games has gotten and they expect to make over $1billion.

        • Dylan

          No, at least I don’t think so.

          Dragon Age 3 will carry saves from the previous 2. But not on next gen, because they simply can’t.

          So they’re creating a prologue that lets you re-choose your choices.

          • roozbeh, again

            forza 4 cars that you own will get carried over to forza 5 as well.

    • xbox rules

      The upgrade program ends on dec 31

  • Sledg

    Larry, It’s a slow news day today! What other surprises about the XBox One do you have for us :)

  • xbox rules

    I wonder how this kid got an xbox one already

    • Sledg

      probably parents work at MS

  • xbox rules

    There’s a leak in Microsoft if everybody just goes to gameing websites there’s a video of this kid already playing the xbox one

    • Jeremy Filth

      Video was taken down.

  • xbox rules

    It looks nice with all my comments getting deleated maybe they can find out where the leak is

  • tenbob1972

    how much free space is there after the operating system has taken it’s chunk

    • roozbeh, again

      Unknown for now

  • xtcv

    I currently own two 360s (home and travel) and i remove the hdd from one and install in the other to play on each system… will the xbox one support an external hdd in the future to accomodate us with multiple systems?

    • roozbeh, again

      Yes

    • Nathanzz

      You don’t need an external hard drive. Your content lives in the cloud and follows your account anywhere.

      • xtcv

        So, unlike the 360, the profile can live in the cloud?

  • mitchartz

    Will the non-Day One Editions ship on Nov 22nd as well?

  • beardyman3218

    You can plug any hdmi device into xbox but you wont be able to control them all, maybe the ones with CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) will be able to.

  • beardyman3218

    Major will xbox one be able to control devices i plug into the hdmi in that have CEC (Consumer Electronics Control)?

  • Sledg

    I forgot about Black Tusk Studios! I hope we hear more about what they are doing soon.

    • Sledg

      Is it possible that the teaser they showed at E3 is Crackdown 3?

 
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