May 23rd 2014 4:53 pm PT

MNR 511: June Xbox One Update and Geoff Keighley stops by

Host: Larry Hryb, Xbox LIVE's Major Nelson (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)

Co-host : e (Xbox LIVE ) (Twitter)

Co-host : lollip0p (Xbox LIVE) (Twitter)

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In Studio Guest: Geoff Keighley

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  • Charles

    Can’t wait for E3! Can’t wait to see what’s in store for Halo.

  • KingJam3s916

    is this audio where major answered the June update questions “Special” today?

  • nodryland1

    Nice show can’t wait to E3! I’ll be there cant wait try some of the games.

  • Alphapapa

    If you’re offering a free Surface Pro 3 – Count me in!

  • deadbox102

    Off topic, but I have a question about the Memorial Day sale. Does the sale only apply to the physical copies?

  • Charles

    There were some funny moments in this podcast.

  • Francis Jairam

    I really hope to see some great games at E3

  • http://www.txclan.de CyreX

    Awesome Podcast! Was very funny in the end. Thanks!
    But… where is “Co-host : lollip0p”? ;)

  • evilfangs .

    I’d hate to go to war with the people on my friends list who are playing Wolfenstein, they all saved the old man Fergus and let the kid die. Who does that!

    • Mr&Mrs Ninja

      no, NO, NO Spoilers! lol I’m still gonna buy it though… What would you rate the game @evilfangs? I’m debating on whether I should get it now or wait until I get bored with Watch Dogs.

      • evilfangs .

        It’s an amazing game, one of the best FPS games to release in years. The gameplay is smooth and the graphics are decent. It’s a really long game too for a FPS, I think I’m only now on the last chapter and I been playing the hell out of it, according to the time played tracker it say’s I’ve played for 17hours. I still need to do the second play-through too.

        The fact you had to decide at the begin which path you take was put on different sites by the creators of Wolfenstein is why I didn’t put any spoiler warning, I thought anyone interested in the game would have seen the videos of it.

        • Death Dealer

          It is indeed a great single player game and at full 1080p with 60fps too. That shows other developers are just bad at what they have done with Xbox One ports IMO.

          • evilfangs .

            Developers today are just lazy. Seen Watch Dog videos at how bad that looks?

            Some games on the 360 and PS3 have better graphics, lighting and physics using like 512mb ram and horrible CPU / GPU compared to the specs these new consoles have. Hell Watch Dogs doesn’t even have shadows from when a car light is cast on you. Last of Us had amazing shadows when that torch was cast on someone.

          • Death Dealer

            Yes, it’s ridiculous and am not going to buy that game at release.
            I find it funny that it runs on the PS4 at 900p30fps though. Just goes to show that the PS4 isn’t a powerhouse either.

          • evilfangs .

            The PC version on ultra even gets pop ins, and apparently it only uses 2.5GB of ram.

            Just completed Wolfenstein though and man that was an amazing game. Just need to do chapter select and pick up the missing collectibles then go onto Uber difficultly which is going to be super hard as I died 81 times on I am death incarnate difficulty.

            I was only able to crack the first enigma code.

          • Death Dealer

            :D. I still have a couple of hours to go. Might get to the end tonight. So far it’s been well worth my money (which was quite a chunk at €70 digital BTW).

          • evilfangs .

            It’s one of the longest single player FPS games I remember playing in the HD era of gaming. I’d rather have paid £39.99 instead of £45 but still worth the money.

          • Mr&Mrs Ninja

            Mr Ninja: @death dealer that’s what I been saying! I mean c’mon son! lol I think Devs are rushing or just lazy sometimes. I’m not faulting Respawn because Titanfall is their first game.

          • IseeN4Gtardscrying

            Yep, it’s hilarious. And like you and many other real gamers have said before, it proves that good games aren’t just about the graphics either. Just look at the Mario Kart 8 controversy right now. It’s an awesome game to play, yet would somehow be meh because it doesn’t run at full 1080p and has a frame stutter every now and then. It’s ridiculous and it’s all the fault of the Sony pauperfanboys that do nothing more than enjoy pixelcounting instead of the games themselves in their complete desperation.

        • Mr&Mrs Ninja

          Mr Ninja: I was joking! It wasn’t that bad since I purposely avoid all vids about story so I don’t know the characters. lol WOW! I must have this game. Can’t wait til payday! Thanks fangs!

    • Liquidfx Xboxdude

      you are suppose to say spoilers before you say something like that. but who wouldn’t save a man named Fergus over anybody? that is such a cool name.

  • Mike

    Does anyone now what the joypad and star icons mean that display on the top left and right of the game icons on the xbox one.

    • evilfangs .

      Joypad icon means that game has DLC installed.

      Star icon means that person is on your favourites list.

      • beardyman3218

        You are correct on both points.

      • Mike

        Thanks for the info. I have Premium for BF4 with all the packs installed but dont have the joypad icon on its game icon?

  • beardyman3218

    This was the funniest major nelson podcast I have had the pleasure of listening to, keep it up. There was a solid 5 minutes on pizza, i like it when the podcast goes off topic. Geoff Keighley was a welcome addition, you should get him back on again.

  • tenbob1972

    if anyone from Microsoft is reading this you need to save the Xbox one before it goes the way of the Dreamcast or the Wii u.

    please don’t let this happen i mean the console is less powerful than the ps4 by a fair bit yet even even with the price drop it still cost the same as the ps4 and most people know this.

    so your going to have to do better on price for a start ,it needs to be another 60 bucks lower and offer some sort of bonus like a free game or free Xbox live.

    if you don’t do something the millions you have put in to this console will just be lost and you may even succeed in killing the Xbox brand all together.

    please Microsoft i know you have this way of thinking but step out of your box and don’t less happen.
    i am not knocking you guys at Microsoft i mean you kind of come round to the idea that shipping with Kinect was a bad idea.
    the money you spent on developing it you could have put it into making the hardware better like for instance putting ddr5 ram in the console and getting rid of the edram on the die and put more shader processors on the die instead.

    • Death Dealer

      It’s not a pricedrop, it’s a new SKU with a lower entry price because of no bundled Kinect. The $450 Titanfall bundle was a pricedrop.

      • tenbob1972

        i am well ware of this but that’s not my point my point is that i love Xbox and the way Microsoft has been going they are kind of killing the Brand from within . i mean first they had DRM/ONLINECHECKINGATE then LOWER SPEC THAN PS4GATE then MUTIPLATFORMs RUN WORSE ON XB1GATE and lastly WE WILL NEVER SELL XB1 WITHOUT KINECT LIE GATE.
        as a Xbox one owner we have rode a ruff ride.
        and there does not seem very much to attract new users and if more people don’t by the XB1 then it’s sunk.
        and i don’t want this to happen.
        so please Microsoft get your game together.

        • beardyman3218

          You do realise the Xbox one is selling really well and since announcing the new SKU pre order for that have rose even more? Just because its isn’t selling as many as ps4 doesn’t mean it isn’t selling well. There’s not much to attract new users? What, the console has more features than its competitors. If all you care about is graphics go play PC you will love it there. Why is it all of a sudden people have become sales experts.

          • tenbob1972

            Microsoft confirmed that it managed to sell 115,000 Xbox One consoles for April.

            that’s not so good when you think that even 360 still sold around 71000 units in the same month and the 360 is eight years old and coming to the end of it’s life.

            as for what you were saying about PC i have already got a super spec PC with 2x Nvidia GTX 760 video cards installed (sli mode) which kind of put’s it way above above both consoles put together but it’s not about that.

            for me it about saving a console and brand that i truly love now is that a crime ? i think not and just like me you must understand that Microsoft from inception to sales of the Xbox one has done many things wrong and not so many wright.

            they can still save the beast though if they act fast ,for a start like i said knock another 60 buck of the price to get the new guys in.

            give them something to play strait out the box and i don’t mean a demo of game that only has one character playable and then costs mega bucks to unlock any item in the game.

            make it a game that’s worth having and is compleat to play.

            and last but not least we need to see loads of exclusive game that really look next gen like Rise son of Rome that are not just tarted up last gen games.

            i don’t know for sure but it seem that this year the only games that truly look next gen are cod and sun set over drive.
            i mean high profile games like watch dogs for instance look little better than their last gen counterparts even on super high end PC let alone Xbox one.

            you seem to play it down but the truth is the quality of visuals make or break a system.

            for instance if they had brought out the 360 with graphics that were only a slight bit better that the original Xbox or Ps2 for that matter then the 360 would have not sold very well and that would have been the end for Xbox.
            well as bitter pill as it is to swallow that’s were we are at with the Xbox one now.

          • beardyman3218

            Will it does sound like you are passionate about xbox. There is nothing to save because it doesn’t need saving, the graphics on the ps4 are almost identical this whole resolution debate is pr talk there’s is not much in the way of visual difference and devs haven’t even grasped esram yet or the 10% GPU reservation look at the Xbox 360 when it launched it was essentially just ps2 in HD, it is still early days there is nothing to worry about and with the new SKU GameStop and other stores are seeing a massive increase in demand. I haven’t come here to speak sales talk, so this will be my last comment on the situation.

          • Death Dealer

            No, there is no crime in wanting what you want, even if the Xbox one is doing fine I agree with you that it needs to do better because of marketshare. That’s the only thing that’s important for MS too as they are a business first and foremost.
            All of the things you mention are basically Don Mattrick’s mismanaged vision falling apart because of not delivering the proper message what it was about.
            Yes undercutting the price of the PS4 by, say $50, would give the Xbox One a definite advantage and could ignite a price war that Sony has no chance of winning, ever. But before MS does that, they need momentum and that means good software that shows they are serious about supporting their hardware (and that means the Xbox 360 too MS).
            Once consumers see that there are (completely) exclusive games that people might want, then there’s a chance that might pick up, then the price war can start as MS makes money of of the software sales to make that possible.
            The Truth of the matter is, NEITHER console is powerful, both the PS4 and the Xbox One, that’s why it’s so funny that all those PS fanboys are out there spamming the net with pixel counts. It just shows they can’t afford anything and basically have to defend their purchase as some sort of psychopathology troubling them.

          • Nick Peck

            You do realize the system is all of 6 months old right? The 360 has been out how long now? I love you people that see everything as an instant failure. It takes YEARS to establish a base, which will be no different for the next gen systems.

            Not to mention, the XBO has around 5.5m sold while the ps4 is probably around 7.5m sold. Now that’s roughly 2m behind, but you have to consider the $100 price difference and that the XBO is only available in 13 territories while the ps4 is in what, 30-40? Taking that into consideration, the XBO has been selling very well. The gap will close with the new sku and when it releases in all of the other territories no doubt.

            As for games? All of their first party games are solid releases. Sony has 3 first party games and imo, only one of them is worth the money (second son, but only good for 1 play through imo). Wait for E3, XBO will have plenty of new games to look forward too (as will the ps4.. hopefully).

            They don’t need to drop the price, it’s way to early for that. If they only mustered to sell 1m systems by now (6 months later), then yes, they would need to take drastic measures. The system is selling at a great pace and there really isn’t anything to worry about.

            You really need to understand the history of the industry and how trends work. Everything is done for a reason.

          • Guest

            PS4 is available in 52 countries and will probably soon be available in all the 63 countries that PSN is available in. THAT’s why there’s such a sales discrepancy. MS needs to step it up a little. Sony is selling in so many countries with supply constraints yet MS is selling in so little countries with a cutback in production. That’s the fault of bundling Kinect and aiming to have language support ready in every country when it launched. That didn’t work out so well, AT ALL. Should have just launched in more countries and have a few languages available at the start, too bad for localization, but we were accustomed to it with the Xbox 360, so no harm would have happened there. Azure server support is available in MANY more countries, so MS just needs to even the number before year’s end and then we’ll see who truly outsells who. PS hypocrite fanboys can bite me saying that 40 countries don’t matter, because they do, even if they are smaller ones.

          • tenbob1972

            but it’s a games system the TV stuff is poor at best does not even work
            every well in the UK or the rest of Europe and up next month if you want
            to do any thing other than play games or stream videos from a PC you
            have to have a gold account you don’t have to on Ps4 or my PC .
            and as for Kinect “the one thing i did not want but had no option but to buy”
            xbox on it does nothing
            i try again xbox on it does nothing
            i try again xbox on then think f**k it and use the game pad

      • http://www.reddit.com/r/X1UIMockups/ ilovegoogleglass

        Agreed.

    • nathan marchant

      Its the second fastest selling console in history far out pacing the 360 im sure it wont go the way of the Dreamcast or the Wii u.

  • digitallife

    Damn anyone here get their copy of watch dogs early? How do you find the game thus far? Now i’m hating that I decided to buy it digital from the store and have to wait…

  • evilfangs .

    God why do I bother going for achievements if they’re just going to bug and glitch out.

    • beardyman3218

      I haven’t had any achievements glitch but my time played on certain games has and says I have over 500 hours on a game I have only played for around 19 hours.

      • evilfangs .

        They always seem to be collectible or tracked achievements that bug for me lol.

        Collectable for Ryse stilled bugged, I’m unable to get it.

        Two collectibles for Max got bugged but developers released a patch which fixed this for me so I was able to finally get the two achievements after 3 months.

        Wolfenstein kill tracking perk and it’s one of the finally ones too. So although I can start a new game and the perk system will reset, it’s still going to take me half a day to grind the other perks before I can unlock and hopefully get that achievement.

        • Gazza!!!

          Tracking and collectable achievements are problematic on the XO plus some don’t even unlock when you get them but randomly unlock some time after. Peggle 2 and Trials can both be tricked into thinking you have done more challenges than you have actually done through a simple work around. With Ryse it has been fixed but you will need to recollect the ones you missed. I had the same problem but followed an online guide and they popped once I got them again.

  • Mr&Mrs Ninja

    Funny podcast Major

  • beardyman3218

    Any update on the twitch app in regards to streaming with custom privacy settings and also an option not to notify your whole friends list when you start a stream.

  • Kieran

    Why doesn’t make Microsoft make a 360 controller with the design of the xb1 controller? The 360 controller feels cheap and dated now. Be nice to able to use an xb1 type controller on the 360. For me it just feels nicer to hold than the 360 one?

    • Liquidfx Xboxdude

      the 360 controller weak and cheap? it defined controllers. it was prob one of the biggest reasons why people who love fps bought a 360 over ps3. xb1 controller is really not much better and feels like there is a sander in the triggers. not that its a horrible thing but in some games i have turned off the rumble in the x1 controller. just saying.

      • Axcalibur

        Agreed. I hate Sony’s controllers just because the thumbsticks were in such an awkward place and it made controlling most games a chore, especially 1st person games. The 360 controller was the best controller last generation. You can tell that Microsoft was inspired by Nintendo – because the controller felt like a natural successor to the Gamecube controller, more so than the Original Xbox controller.

        The Xbox One controller hasn’t captured my love yet – but that may be just a lack of use. Really only played a couple hours of Titanfall on the Xbox One…

  • Daniel Jassé

    major, lets get dash backgrounds! jesus its only been 8 months!!!!!

    • ImTheMetalLord

      No matter if you are asking Major OR Jesus for this you are asking the wrong people. Good luck with that!!!

      • Gazza!!!

        He may as well of asked Jebus.

      • Liquidfx Xboxdude

        actually major nelson said the team does read these comments a while back.

        • ImTheMetalLord

          Oh yes I know the “team” does read these as well as twitter/fb etc. I mean why else would the vocal minority get their Kinectless Xbox One? However he needs to be addressing the proper people is all my sarcastic statement was about.

        • Peter

          he and his team read the comments but him not responding here is probably for the wiser. He would have to then juggle responding here with all the other things he does. Better i he takes note and not get into discussing stuff here.

  • lassenwolf

    Off topic but I just got windows 2013 office free and already received it. I answered a survey about the Warface game, beta and all and won. I could of pick a game and such but free Office isn’t that cheap

  • http://www.reddit.com/r/X1UIMockups/ ilovegoogleglass

    Can’t wait for E3!

    • aawells07

      Yes It’s something I look forward to every yr. I’m even taking a couple days off work to soak up all the awesome news. It’s like our Super Bowl.

  • aawells07

    I like Geoff but, he cracks me up. Pay attention to everytime he is asked a question(in every interview) as he always starts them a high pitched Yeeeaaah………. lol. Appreciate everything he’s done for the industry.

    • http://www.reddit.com/r/X1UIMockups/ ilovegoogleglass

      Agreed lol.

  • Guest

    Jesus Geoff, what’s up with the high pitch yeahs? You lose me around ~ 47:36…

  • beardyman3218

    The latest system update (June Update) is available to people in the beta programme.

    • Nick Peck

      nice, leaving to go home shortly to check it out :D

    • Peter

      finally the external hd update. need to get a new 4tb usb3 drive tomorrow

      about time had to start removing stuff

    • evilfangs .

      Microsoft decided to test the “update console” feature too which this update. I normally get prompted to update when I turn my console on, this time I had to hit the update console button.

      • beardyman3218

        Everyone in the beta will get the prompt at some point but searching manually gets you it now, I like the new store its tidied up, now you can get into the store you want faster. All the dashboard needs now is more tile colour options (maybe a colour mixer?) Custom themes from USB and store as well as the ability to set the opacity of the tiles to the point were you can have see through tiles.

  • RSix

    real name was one of the most requested features? i think bluray 3d is one of them …

    • Nick Peck

      Just because you didn’t happen to see a million people ask for it doesn’t mean they weren’t :) I like it because it helps keep track of people (especially those that like to change their names often and you lose track).

      I see a lot of BR 3D comment though so I’m sure they are working on it. I personally have no need (nor do I want it) for it but there are a lot of people that do. For how limited it will end up being (3D is dying off again) I’m sure they will support it pretty soon though. Just have to be patient.

      • beardyman3218

        3d isn’t dying off, if anything its becoming bigger. At least 8 in 10 TVs above 32 inch are 3d panels not to mention more games using it in the past 2 years than ever before. I can’t wait till we get some Xbox one games that supports 3d. More and more movies are using it, if 3d wasn’t important why are companies so focused on developing vr headsets which is just an extension of 3d.

        • ryder4life22187

          3D is actually slowly dying off, maybe not in theatres but it’s becoming less of a demand in the household. I’m not to sure where your saying at least 8 in 10 tvs that are above 32 inch are 3D. I bought a new HDTV last october and the best buy in my area only had a couple of tvs that were 3D capable, as they were more focused on 4k tvs and smart tvs.

          • ImTheMetalLord

            I remember when they said HD was slowly dying off as well about 2-3 years into the release of the first HDTVs. Then the technology got cheaper and more affordable and now that is all history. Not saying it will be the way of 3D but it’s just too early to really know if it will catch on in 5 years.

          • beardyman3218

            Almost all TV over 32 inch from the major companies are 3d panels. 4k is just too expensive here in the UK I can buy a car for the price they charge its also pointless buying 4k right now as there are no TV providers in the UK or physical media in 4k and there won’t be for at least 3 years because it cost too much to send that amount of data UK TV services are still 1080i. Again compare games and movies in the last 2 years then previous years. Gravity was one of the latest movies that had very high demand in 3d. Believe me 3d isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.Just look at the amount of people who want the x1 to play 3d blu rays.

          • ryder4life22187

            I’m going to have to say that I bet the people who want the X1 to play 3D blu rays are the ones who already have a decent amount of 3D movies. I highly doubt there are a lot of people that want the feature who don’t own a 3D blu ray that want to get into it now. I still fail to see where your getting that almost all 32 inch tv and bigger are 3D panels, as again 3D isn’t the selling point anymore to tvs.

          • beardyman3218

            If you live in the UK you would know that stores that sell TVs almost all oh I’m not repeating myself again..you get the picture. The tvs from the big companies that is, the ones over 46 inch usually come with two free pairs of glasses they are really trying to push this tech however I agree the adoption rate may have dipped recently but it doesn’t mean its dying. I believe James camoran is working with tech companies to create glasses free 3d TVs.

          • Death Dealer

            Them being 3D panels doesn’t mean 3D is popular because it isn’t. It shows that the tech is there for everybody to use. Wearing the (expensive active) glasses doesn’t appeal to everybody and those accessories aren’t sold at good rates, which shows that consumer adoption of 3D is low. It’s the same with 3D Blu-Ray copies: low adoption.
            4K won’t be mainstream for a long time as content will lack and there is no bandwith to make everything available in 4K even with H.265 compression.

  • Nick Peck

    Man do I miss Steel Battalion, I had two of them so I could play MP with a few buddies when the 2nd game came out. I would kill to get a real new version (with controller) for the XBO, I would gladly pay the $150 again. Very fun game and such a great different experience. I’d take this over the garbage VR any day.

  • Ron

    I thought I’d just pop in to say please bring 3D Blu-ray to Xbox One as promised last year.

  • lee gutierrez

    i wanna buy watch dogs at midnight on the x1 dashboard will be available as soon as its out or do i have to wait a couple of hours?

    • Mike

      Its showing now but £59.99 the most expensive game yet.

  • x$NIPERx

    Great up coming update. So any of you in the know gamers got the sales for tomorrow?

    • Does Not Equal

      Just go to xbldb dot com. Anyone can do it.

      • x$NIPERx

        Thank you so much kind troll. I will do just that.

        • Does Not Equal

          I don’t believe you understand the slang term “troll.” You’re welcome.

  • Digiadam

    So on what date exactly is this patch coming out?

    • LeTHaL MiGRaiNe

      if you are lucky enough to know the right person, you can get into the update beta program, and you would already have the new patch.

  • abugray

    Weekly deals?

    • Does Not Equal

      You’re early.

  • ryder4life22187

    Alien Hominid HD – 4.99 (50% Off)
    Aliens Vs. Predator – 6.39 (68% Off)
    Lost Planet 3 – 13.59 (66% Off)
    Aliens Vs. Predator – Colonial Marines – 9.99 (75% Off)
    Star Trek – 9.89 (67% Off)
    Alien Breed 1 – 2.49 (50% Off)
    Alien Breed 2 – 2.49 (50% Off)
    Alien Breed 3- 2.49 (50% Off)
    Earth Defense Force 2025 – 33.49 (33% Off)

    • Some guy

      Star Trek, Aliens Vs. Predator, Lost Planet 3.
      Man, MS is really trying to make it sound like a joke.
      I dig EDF sale though, if the season pass was on sale too I’d buy it.

      • ImTheMetalLord

        EDF doesn’t have a season pass available however all the weapon dlc’s are free and the 3 mission dlc’s you can get for just over $20.

        • Some guy

          Oh right, the season pass in only on ps3.
          Wouldn’t mind the DLC being on sale then.

    • x$NIPERx

      Geez they really want me to hang on to my all my rewards cash.

    • Sknots

      Alien Hominid was my first Arcade game and damn its awesome in every way, also Alien Vs Predator is really fun and an interesting concept, i hope people buy it so i can play mp again lol (ALIEN VS PREDATOR not the Colonial marines….Avoid that one please)

  • lee gutierrez

    xbox one deal of the week anyone?

    • ImTheMetalLord

      There isn’t anyplace that leaks those yet.

      • lee gutierrez

        :( thanks

    • todd Wright

      i think its lego marvel super heroes unless it was always 49.99

    • Gazza!!!

      The current X1deals run until next week when the new GwG and new and improved X1 gold sales start.

  • Lenonn

    Still awaiting a non-OneDrive photo viewer for the One. Seriously, I should be able to view things off a flashdrive and not forced into used Microsoft’s cloud storage.

  • Beano

    Awesome, I love Keira Knightley

 

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