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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://majornelson.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"><channel><title>Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx</link><description>Name : Forza Motorsport 2 Demo Price : Free Availability : Available to Gold members in all Xbox Live regions. Dash Details : Download the demo to Forza Motorsport 2, the sequel to Microsoft Game Studios' award-winning, fully-customizable driving simulator</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#222876</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:44:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:222876</guid><dc:creator>Xjunk-Nl</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yess FM2 at last !!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=222876" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#222875</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:44:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:222875</guid><dc:creator>McVain</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yay!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=222875" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224731</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 13:12:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224731</guid><dc:creator>Twitch 2k3</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;After playing with the wheel and tweaking the volume settings I will say this game has a ton of potential. The wheel is much smoother then with PGR3. It feels way more natural. &amp;nbsp;The engine sounds are great, some of &amp;nbsp;the best I've heard. &amp;nbsp;I'm not sure I miss it but there isn't a in car view like in PGR3. &amp;nbsp;I didn't use it anyway,I'm just a little surprised that it's not there. &amp;nbsp;I'd also like a better way to get in to reverse. &amp;nbsp;A couple of times when I was down shifting I put in to reverse by mistake. &amp;nbsp;That was a drag &amp;nbsp;Side note and I don't know if this happed to anyone else.. but...The demo locked up on me a bunch of times. &amp;nbsp;Over all I'm really looking forward to the game. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224731" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224730</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 13:04:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224730</guid><dc:creator>Wocker</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Somehow this demo keeps crashing on me (randomly) when I am racing around the track.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To bad, I really love it (even though it is crashing my xbox)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224730" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224707</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 11:33:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224707</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot; lol Hedon, you win. said:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After reading some of the stuff you've posted over on the forza forums, I realize that this game could look like atari's &amp;quot;Night Driver&amp;quot; and you'd still claim it was the best graphically.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are such a tool. You crack us up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224707" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224552</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 20:29:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224552</guid><dc:creator>richthofen18</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;After careful reading of all the thoughtful input, I placed PGR 3 in my Xbox360 and played and reviewed it closely. &amp;nbsp;Then I played the Forza 2 demo. &amp;nbsp;I simply cannot understand anything but praise for this fantastic looking demo. &amp;nbsp;Lense flares are there, when it would really happen in real life. &amp;nbsp;Each tree is a model unto itself so really can't be flat and 2D. &amp;nbsp;There are even flowers and blades of grass where PGR 3 had a simple slab of undistinguishable green. &amp;nbsp;PGR rocks no doubt. &amp;nbsp;But there is no way you can say Forza 2 is bad. &amp;nbsp;I can't help but to wonder if people critiquing it negatively might be viewing streaming video of other people playing the game on IGN or Youtube. &amp;nbsp;Anyone who has seen the actual game run on a decent TV are Awestruck. &amp;nbsp;Also, is it true that our brothers that have only Silver memberships can't download this demo anyway? &amp;nbsp;True this demo track is simple, but still a very good track to get a feel of what it can do and all the sweet cars we get. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224552" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224551</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 20:29:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224551</guid><dc:creator>richthofen18</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;After careful reading of all the thoughtful input, I placed PGR 3 in my Xbox360 and played and reviewed it closely. &amp;nbsp;Then I played the Forza 2 demo. &amp;nbsp;I simply cannot understand anything but praise for this fantastic looking demo. &amp;nbsp;Lense flares are there, when it would really happen in real life. &amp;nbsp;Each tree is a model unto itself so really can't be flat and 2D. &amp;nbsp;There are even flowers and blades of grass where PGR 3 had a simple slab of undistinguishable green. &amp;nbsp;PGR rocks no doubt. &amp;nbsp;But there is no way you can say Forza 2 is bad. &amp;nbsp;I can't help but to wonder if people critiquing it negatively might be viewing streaming video of other people playing the game on IGN or Youtube. &amp;nbsp;Anyone who has seen the actual game run on a decent TV are Awestruck. &amp;nbsp;Also, is it true that our brothers that have only Silver memberships can't download this demo anyway? &amp;nbsp;True this demo track is simple, but still a very good track to get a feel of what it can do and all the sweet cars we get. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224551" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224512</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 06:51:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224512</guid><dc:creator>FistsofPain</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with Trunks SSJ. We speak DUTCH in Belgium too you know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And yes, we know English too. So please pass this on to whosoever is responsible for this ****-up and let 'em fix it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224512" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224442</link><pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 15:43:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224442</guid><dc:creator>MrSpudgun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp;Ok, GT HD on PS3 has pretty much nailed the 'realistic' handling side of things, and PGR3 has got the realistic/arcade balance pretty much perfect. So how have they managed to make Forza2 such a wet fish in the handling stakes?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; #1- When you stand on the brakes in GT/PGR the view dips forward, accelerate hard and it dips back, giving an impression of g-force's acting on you as they would in the real world, steering left and right gives a good impression of the inertia of a car being thrown about. In Forza, the view remains almost flat, which detracts from the 'realistic' tag this game is being pushed with. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; #2- The engine sound is almost hidden when you first play, and even after changing the volumes in the options the sound isn't raw enough. If you've got your foot to the floor in a race prepared Ferrari, it should sound like the end of the world is happening around you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; These two points detract from the realistic feeling of Forza, and rob it of any excitement. I only hope the full game will correct these issues, but i've a feeling i'll be waiting for PGR4/GT5 for more next gen driving sensations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MrSpudgun.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224442" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224430</link><pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 14:21:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224430</guid><dc:creator>Hulsey</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The whole 60fps looks great and works well with the game although a little jaggy like PGR3(although PGR3 was only 720p and a launch title and even bizarre admitted they were kinda rushed for launch and were using new technology which they were not used to)but they have had ages with Forza 2(whoever makes it) and jaggies just annoy me,graphically i think it looks good although no cockpit view makes it feel arcade-like which is stupid as the makers clearly want a Sim racer, ahwell CMDIRT is out soon maybe that will be more impressive and &amp;quot;Next-gen&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224430" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224383</link><pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 07:36:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224383</guid><dc:creator>Trunks SSJ</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Nice demo!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I live in &amp;quot;dutch-speaking&amp;quot; Belgium en my demo is in FRENCH :'/ What's that all about?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224383" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224354</link><pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 01:05:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224354</guid><dc:creator>Spong</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Humble pie time - I posted before about how it didn't feel right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just tried it with the wireless racing wheel from the in-car view, and it's really good.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think I was initially put off by the graphics - there didn't seem to be as many graphical touches as in Forza 1.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would personally sacrifice 30 of those 60 fps for more environmental effects - the one track that's there just looks a bit sterile.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But as a driving sim, yeah, it feels right, and it's working well with the wheel and pedals, and it's a lot more fun than I gave it credit for in this thread. Mea culpa.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224354" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224340</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 23:14:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224340</guid><dc:creator>Stevie</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The cars are covered with jaggies, one of the worst examples ive seen. On other forums people who dont see them have posted screenshots to prove, and the photos are covered with jaggies. Theres also a high ammount of video ringing too. The game plays well and i find the environments ok but the car models are bad.All the in game clips we were shown was of replays which proves the company did not want us to see real game footage. Slyly done. Its gone gold now so wont change. I hope the magazines, at least the non sycophantic ones, tell it like it is&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224340" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224315</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 21:34:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224315</guid><dc:creator>lol Hedon, you win.</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;After reading some of the stuff you've posted over on the forza forums, I realize that this game could look like atari's &amp;quot;Night Driver&amp;quot; and you'd still claim it was the best graphically.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224315" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224299</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 20:51:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224299</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Episode II: Silly Buns Returns said:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Episode I: The Hedon Menace said:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;...most Fanboys would do that.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;If the shoe fits...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exactly. &amp;nbsp;:D&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can't ignore the glaring graphics problems with the game. &amp;nbsp;If graphics aren't as important to you as the feel and gameplay, that's fine... but on the other hand you can't say that Forza's got the &amp;quot;best graphics&amp;quot; etc etc because it certainly doesn't.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The developers posted that they had to reduce the AA to 2x in order to hit a solid 60fps. &amp;nbsp;Beyond the aliasing problems, many of the sponsor textures on the cars are of low quality and the environment is very &amp;quot;flat&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I've been waiting for Forza since the day it was announced - and this is a disappointment. &amp;nbsp;Instead of a pre-order I'll most likely rent it first so that I can see if the other features that round out the game (such as the tuning and online tournaments) will outweigh the graphics issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are entitled to your minority opinion, no matter how off base it is.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This game, by most peoples opinion, is far from a disappointment. In fact, it's the best graphically, as well as physics, game play, visuals and more. Graphics are phenomenal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good luck in your own little world, you will have.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://majornelson.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224299" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Demo: Forza 2</title><link>http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/05/10/forza-2-demo.aspx#224292</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 20:26:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">055c7c12-9f8e-4800-85f1-aebaf66ea7d8:224292</guid><dc:creator>fastmode</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Some day developers will realize that showing the videos versus gameplay leads to dissapointment. &amp;nbsp;Just show what MY game play experience will be like. &amp;nbsp;Most games we skip cut screens and don't bother with the replays and videos any way.&lt;/p&gt;
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