Forza’s got the Aero which is a bonus but I’ll pass for now, and the BioShock “DL”C can screw off. Haven’t they alienated their audience enough by having poor MP and charging for on-disc content?
They should be trying to entice players back, not further dividing the dwindling audience.

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Bioshock 2 dosent even deserve a mention for so called DLC at this point, didnt buy any DLC for it, never will.

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iv only ever bought one car pack, and thats cause i was desperate for the GT-R, which should have been in the game.. but all these car packs at 400Pts… no thanks.. if they were around 200 i might buy them but 400 is just too much.. most dlc is too much really.. which i why i buy barely anything instead of quite a lot of it..

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The Bioshock 2 Map Pack & Kill ’em Kindly game mode (800 Points) = 659.39mb
The Bioshock 2 Kill ’em Kindly game mode (Free) = 659.39mb

No prizes for guessing that this is the same content, just with the map packs locked on the free one. So if you only want the free game mode you still have to do a large download.

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I got Rapture Metro this morning, played a bunch of MP since, but since nobody else has the maps, I have yet to play in one of them.

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Xlrking: at least this time it is dlc… 659mb…. its not an unlock for stuff on the cd. This is how you do it companies. You put out stuff and you allow a free dlc that places the ability for me to play with buyers of it without buying it… See Fable 2 dlc for examples (Knothole Island comes to mind)

If its on the disc and we are paying to unlock it… we feel ripped off… if its not then we dont… If you want it to not break the game allow free dlc that makes mine talk to a person who does buy it

That all being said… im not buying any dlc for bioshock 2 that doesnt add to the single player game.

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I wont pay for that Bioshock 2 DL C crap. What a waste of an effort to make the game better when you are just dividing the already sparse community.

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Can they stop with the car packs already? I want more tracks. They released like six car packs and track pack. It’s gets boring driving new cars over and over on the same tracks. I would gladly pay 800 points for 3-4 new tracks.

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@ cinco312

I dough that Turn 10 will sell 3 or 4 tracks for 800msp. Also they said that is is harder for them to make a track then it is to do cars. But ya I agree with you the released 3 car packs so far since the last track pack.

I didn’t find the Nürburgring GP track pack they released was worth the 400msp but that just me.

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I only tried the multiplayer for Bioshock 2 for a few rounds and I’ve never looked back. I wasn’t expecting a good MP, and didn’t get one. That’s OK, but it’s not alright to charge the players for content that is already on the disc (speaking of the first “DLC”).
I just checked the Marketplace today, and guess what? More rip-offs. It’s Capcom again with their “Costume Packs”. Now you can get two Costume Packs for Super Street Fighter IV for 320 MS points each. The packs are 124 KB – which is just a key to unlock the content on the disc.
Before you download extra content for your games, check the size first! If it’s only a couple of kilobytes, don’t pay one Microsoft point for it! It’s wrong, and they know it!
It’s like selling a CD, but making people pay a few extra bucks for the last 5 songs on it. Or making people pay for unlocking the behind the scenes on a DVD. It’s rediculous, and you know it.

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I didn’t know so many people worked for these studios to claim the content is already on the disc. A costume for some characters will not consume all that much space…so if they are measured in kb then so be it. I say unless it was officially announced that the content is on the disc then it isn’t on the disc. Now if they were saying here is a new map and it is measured in KB then I would be skeptical…but costume packs…well I don’t expect them to be very large file sizes. I would also expect a code to unlock something to be a lot smaller than 124KB.

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Neo X5: nice try but its on the disc… how do you tell besides the size… simply put if you buy chun li’s thrid costume and i dont yet we play each other and you use it… i will still see it. How is that if i dont download it? And before you ask… ive seen this via street fighter 4….

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It doesn’t matter if the content is on the disc or not. How does that affect the user experience in the slightest? Does it make it more or less enjoyable? No. The only question is if you feel the content is worth the money or not, same thing as when you bought the game in the first place. Developing content costs money and that money needs to be recouped one way or the other. They can’t develop infinite content for free, much as you might like that to happen.

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Didn’t mind the MP on Bioshock 2. It was a nice change from the standard Halo/MW2 stuff that is out there. Still iffy on the new DLC just for the price alone. Can’t wait for the Red Dead Redemption multi-player though!

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@ PerfectStrategy
if they put it on disc i’ve already paid for it when i bought the game in the first place… i agree that dlc costs money and if they want to charge i am ok with that … but to charge me twice for something is very despicable … nothing is worth the money twice over … that’s like paying to see a movie and then having to pay to see the ending
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and when the heck is any bioshock single player dlc content coming out … the mp blows and i want some single player

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I haven’t even played Bioshock 2 MP yet and I don’t plan to, as for YET MORE Forza cars, I’d never play with them since I prefer the cars I’ve been working on to impress my skills.

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@Sausage
That’s what you aren’t understanding. You aren’t paying for the content twice. Was the game worth it to you without that extra content? If it wasn’t, then you shouldn’t have bought the game. Chopping out some content to sell separately isn’t any different than not making that content in the first place. Either way you aren’t getting the content. Maybe they would have never had the resources to develop the content in the first place if they didn’t charge for it.

Content is either worth it to you, or it isn’t. There are no moral grounds on what content you are, or are not, entitled to.

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Yeah, like if I buy a sandwich but have to pay extra to taste the tomato that is already inside the sandwich. ¬_¬

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@PerfectStrategy,

But it does matter. How would you like it if Dragon Age: origins had half the story locked on the disc and you had to play €20 to unlock the rest of the game. Would you feel ripped off.

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Shaggy B: By that logic then I shouldn’t see avatar gear people have purchased…I see it but I haven’t purchased it…does that mean it resides on my console but just locked? By your logic yes. Adding a color or even a costume will not require a huge file download. Now this is probably silly to compare but take Madden 10 for example, someone purchases the AFL pack (Yes I know it is more than like 183MB or something but it is also an additional modes plus the uniforms)…I can use the uniforms with players who haven’t purchased the content yet they can see the uniforms…does that mean the content was locked on the disc? Again, by your logic yes.

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Just wanted to add one more thing to my post regarding the Avatar items, looking on the Marketplace you an Avatar item can be around 172 KB (I will use the Leather Jacket from Guitar Hero has an example). So I think they can squeeze some color additions and costumes into a Street Fighter game through packs in the 124KB range.

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Last one, here is the link to the item:
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/022f0007-0000-4000-8000-000041560840?cid=SLink

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