Xbox One and Used Games

We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed today. While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, today we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail.

Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios.

Another piece of clarification around playing games at a friend’s house – should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.

   
   

Update: See this updated post on the issue

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  • YOUNTtheMODEST

    Don’t forget the gamers that put you where you are now if you force the hand of this fickle bunch they will leave you high and dry just as sega

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    • Shaniqua1990

      the “hardcore gamer” demography arent even the most profitable one anymore

      lol, self importance much?

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      • GrievousAngel33

        Lol. That worked for a time with the Wii. The XBOX was MADE by the hardcore gamers. And I’m guessing the hardcore gamer spends much more on xbox than your typical Wii owner.

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      • YOUNTtheMODEST

        I understand that part of the profit margin but as with every great idea when it forgets where it came from it then loses sight of where its going

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      • ikari_paul

        Dont come crying when the casual bubble bursts.

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  • droozilla

    I make a perfectly legit response and it disappears?

    I’ll just say it again for people like Yama.

    You get paid off of first sale. After that, as a buyer, I OWN IT. NOT YOU. YOU DO NOT GET PAID FOR ME SELLING SOMETHING THAT I OWN.

    Understand now?

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    • Mike

      you’re expecting too much from trolls and shills if you want them to understand legal concepts.

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      • droozilla

        apparently i’m expecting too much from the moderators too.

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      • Ratros

        Major Nelson is probably still working, so…

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      • ikari_paul

        Im sure its humanly impossible for him to moderate this mess…

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    • Shaniqua1990

      Yeah, you own the license, we get that. The transferability of that license, however is up the terms of the person that granted it to you however…

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      • ikari_paul

        Newsflash, there are laws governing property and consumer rights. Its not a oneway street… to your surprise, im sure. You honnestly think the games industry is any different than any other? You want to tie games to account and not allow transfer of license. Distribute games online and cut the prices, in order to compensate. And Stop whining

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      • Yamagushi

        Yea, and he just named one, by law you do not have the right to transfer your software license to someone else.

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      • YOUNTtheMODEST

        Well I looked at both those cases but the problem is that you can’t transfer licenses but then again you did not have to buy said hard ware in any of those case.

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      • Clarkanoid

        In Europe, the precedent was recently set in the EU Court that everyone has the right to transfer a software license they’ve bought.
        Be interesting to see how this all pans out in that region…

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      • Shaniqua1990

        Previous court cases have already set the precedence for the license/transfers.

        Dooley v. Adobe

        Ericsonn et al. v. Pantecha Networks.

        to name a few.

        nice try.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        it’s not about selling the game to our friends, just having the social interactions to allow them to test it out because we already paid for it and we AREN’T charging them. How do u think home video games caught on in the 1st place?

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      • Shaniqua1990

        by creating a product that people wanted and marketing it to them. If you’re going to say something stupid like “borrowing/used games” you better have some solid evidence to back that up.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        NIntendo games caught on because of rental companies.
        That became outdated when the used game/price-drop markets popularized.
        Honestly whats the average price variance of a used game or new game at a retailer $5? maybe $10 if they have a large overstock…

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      • Shaniqua1990

        once again, solid azz proof, none

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        solid azz proof is get off ur lazy azz and stop trolling for a second and go look on gamestop what the price variances are it’s neglible.

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      • Shaniqua1990

        oh wait, I make things up and act like I’m right even though I have no evidence to back myself up. Then I’ll start throwing red herrings about price variances in 2013 when discussing about how the console business took off.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        oh, u didnt clarify which part you were acting like i was a fool.
        between rentals and sharing is how it caught on. people weren’t just throwing money out there, there were no demos back then. Granted published reviewers had more credibility back then so alot of people made purchase judgments based on reviews but that was the only way you could feel like u honestly knew u weren’t wasting your money as an alternative to renting or sharing.

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      • Yamagushi

        Its called a game demo, almost all games have them. Your friends dont need to “Try” your games. Its a BS lie your using to cover the truth that you just want to play for free.

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      • http://www.facebook.com/mirko.brocop Mirko Brocop

        So nobody should be able to even play games with friends until they buy them right?

        Take a good look people, this is what they want.

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      • Yamagushi

        Play em with the person who bought it? Sure, thats part of the experience. Play em without, no. You have demos if you want to try a game, if your borrowing it, your likely not gonna buy it.

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      • http://www.facebook.com/mirko.brocop Mirko Brocop

        I was given Starcraft by a friend when I was a kid. I’ve bought it probably 5 or 6 times. I could find a lot of examples, but that’s not really the point.

        We have fundamental disagreements about intellectual property. Your ideas are a little more extreme than most can stomach. Maybe they will come true in a distant dystopian future, but I definitely won’t support them any step of the way.

        I have never even borrowed a game I hadn’t bought on 360 btw, but renting is just as bad to you so I guess that counts.

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      • http://www.facebook.com/mirko.brocop Mirko Brocop

        Okay, I’m not sure why my comment disappeared, but trying this again.

        A friend gave me starcraft when I was a kid. I’ve bought it around 5 or 6 times since then. There are other examples, but that’s not really the point. Your views on intellectual property are a little more extreme than most can stomach. Maybe in the near future what you’re pushing for will come true, but I won’t support it any step of the way, and most of the gamers I know won’t support it either.

        Keep sucking that life out of video games, love, your customers.

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    • YOUNTtheMODEST

      So what your saying is as said seller has offered the rights if said product to me for a monitory value and in return I can use said product any way I see fit with in the rights if the law

      Now that kind of thinking sir will get you put on a watch list

      Lmao

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    • Yamagushi

      Do you only get paid for the first hour of work you do, and the rest come free? Each person that experiences the media needs to pay for it. Saying bob down the street bough a copy of “Game X” does not entitle everyone in the world to now play free.

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      • Dylan

        Your logic is SERIOUSLY flawed mate. I can still go to a friend’s house, recover my profile on his Xbox, and he can play the full game without paying.

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      • Yamagushi

        So? How’s my logic flawed, I didn’t say this is some end all fix, I’m just pointing out why its justified.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        Based on ur logic, my friend has to buy the right to borrow my game. If my friend is having to do that, then they should also pay sales tax on my game?

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      • RED360

        They should pay. Cause then you’d be renting it to him.

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      • Yamagushi

        Buy the right to borrow your game? I think they should just buy there own game…

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      • Mike

        what you think is one thing, and you can think however you want.

        The legality of it however, is another story.

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      • Yamagushi

        Legally its fine, you have a right to sell the plastic disc, you don’t legally have the right to transfer your software license.

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      • http://www.facebook.com/mirko.brocop Mirko Brocop

        I will always support the gaming industry, especially the little guys,
        but there’s certain things that I won’t support about it.

        As
        much as you want to convince people otherwise people want to support
        creators, they want to give them money for their work. You’re trying to
        completely change the way people have played video games for years and a
        lot of people obviously don’t see it as a change for the better. They
        see it as you trying to get even more money out of them.

        And
        those people are “leeches” to you, and that really disgusts me. Its fine
        people will vote with their dollars in the end. I hope I never buy a
        game you make money from, but I wouldn’t know either way.

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      • Clarkanoid

        Say it were a painting or interactive art installation, should the artist be expected to be paid the price of the painting for each person who comes to the buyer’s house, looks at it and experiences the art of the creator?

        Or should the buyer, having purchased it, be restricted to not letting anyone else experience this marvel and interest their friends in the artists work.

        And if that buyer subsequently sold that artwork a couple of years later, should the artist, who has no doubt been selling lots of other pieces in the interim (and in the case of a game, selling that same piece a few million times), get the money for the secondary sale instead of the person who invested their money in the artist and bought a piece of their work out of passion?

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    • Matt Anderson

      yeah ever heard of used car dealerships. Those are the same concept and microsoft needs to realize that they exist because people buy used products. THey cant just try to eliminate used games completely.

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      • Shaniqua1990

        How can software be “used” ?

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      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Steele/727028363 Patrick Steele

        Not the same thing. The games must be installed onto a console to work. You can install it to multiple consoles. Does that mean everyone has the right to play it now? No.

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      • Yamagushi

        Cars cant be reset to 0 miles and no damage when you buy them. If they could then “used car dealerships” is the only kind that would exist. Want that for games?

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        is that your only example trying for justification that exists?

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      • Yamagushi

        Its a good one cause it works.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        Microsoft can go on it’s own crusade to do this if it wants, but when neither of your competitors are demanding this= Retarded.

        Granted the PS4 is going to allow publishers to do this, but they aren’t mandating it and if a publisher does do this they put themselves at a disadvantage to their competitors.

        Basically it seems like Microsoft thinks it has a monopoly in this market because of the way things are in it’s PC Division; and if companies like EA want to do this on the PS4, they must be just as conceited.

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      • Clarkanoid

        In that case, Microsoft’s hastily announced digital trade-in scheme should give the customer the full price back for relinquishing their license, right?

        You can’t have it both ways, you silly goose!

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Steele/727028363 Patrick Steele

      Except now every game must be installed in order to play, and you can install that game on multiple consoles. Everybody doesn’t own that game just because you bought it. The only one that has the right to play it is the one with the disc. Everyone else can either pay the fee to access it, or delete it off their console. This doesn’t kill the used game market. It stops someone from installing a game, trading it in, and continuing to play it afterwards.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Renan-Isola/100000577287493 Renan Isola

    So I must input my password and log into my profile in another friend console in order to play in his house? This is kinda not security wise nor easy as just taking the disc into his house and playing in his profile, not to mention that this is ridiculous for people that lend games to friends or let them test it before making the purchase.

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    • Yamagushi

      You can stick your account on a usb drive, much easier than recovering it over there and more secure.

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      • Yamagushi

        Now your all just downvoting me no matter what I say.. Come on >_>

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      • Mike

        *sympathy upvote*

        at least you’re trying to present/defend your view, not just trolling like a certain other poster.

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      • Yamagushi

        And with all the insults flying my way, thats not as easy as it looks lol

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      • slider2nl

        In most cases when you put your profile on a usb stick and use it on another xbox it can ask for your password.

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  • Jeremy Crenshaw

    looks like a hewlett packard to me…
    and god forbid the kinect unit gets messed up, then u cant use the console at all

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  • GrievousAngel33

    It is Xbox people like you and me that put Xbox on the map. I bought 95% of my games new in the first place. I bought a lot of them. Yes, I’ve unloaded a lot of them on Glyde. But I can live without that. What I can’t abide is paying twice for the same game in the same house (if I want to have more than one xbox).

    We put Xbox on the map. And it seems we’re getting the finger.

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  • Yamagushi

    And because people think like this, prepare for the next gen to be nothing but Halos, COD’s, Killzone’s, Mario’s, and Metal Gears. Congrats on destroying the little guys.

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    • droozilla

      Who do you work for? Let’s have some full disclosure Mr. Developer.

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      • Yamagushi

        Why does it matter?

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      • droozilla

        One, to back up your ridulous statements that you’re making bacause you’re allegedly a developer, and two, so I know what company to never buy games from.

        Otherwise, you’re just a lying troll.

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      • Yamagushi

        I don’t think any of my statements rely on my credibility as a developer. I’ve given examples to back up my points, it shouldn’t matter to you if I’m a troll or the queen of england. Read my statements and take what you will from them by trying to understand them, don’t listen to me because of who I am or am not. As for who I am, judging from you being on here, your probably aware how this industry works and how disastrous that could be to reveal.😉

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      • droozilla

        So in other words, you’re full of it.

        Thanks for the clarification.

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      • Yamagushi

        Whatever makes you sleep at night.

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      • ikari_paul

        The effort your wasting over here, would be better spent coming up with original and fun games. Has it crossed your mind that maybe, just maybe, your games dont sell, because they suck? Isnt blaming borrowed games and 2nd hand market just an excuse, a failed attempt at trying to find a scapegoat. Food for thought, Einstein.

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      • Yamagushi

        I never blamed it for my games not selling. I can’t understand the issue unless its affected me personally? Give me a break.

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  • stevenphillips

    What a scam, with times being tuff this is going to shut smaller or first time game designers out, people wont risk money on games that they cant resell especially if there new or unheard of. The only people gaining benefits will be microsoft and huge popular games like cod ect. This clearly isnt about piracy or game developers losing money…

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    • Shaniqua1990

      It’s about ONE.

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      • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake W.

        I’m convinced that you are Major Nelson in disguise.

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      • droozilla

        Yamagushi could be the head of EA. Now it all makes sense.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        or a mail sorter…

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      • Yamagushi

        Or I just don’t work for EA… And why would a mail sorter be this invested x_x

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        cause ur here, not like ur actually doing anything productive

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      • Yamagushi

        Right now? Or you mean if I was a mail sorter I’d be bored and thats why?

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        Just saying as a gamer and not a developer, if u were a legitimate developer i wish u weren’t wasting ur time here and making a better game

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      • Yamagushi

        Its late at night, a guy cant have a break lol?

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      • Yamagushi

        Laugh at the Sim City DRM! Ill show all of you, muhahaha… >_>

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  • ikari_paul

    No…. The same brodude call of duty clones is the way to go. If it doesnt sell, blame 2nd hand market and used games sales.

    This industry employs, and is run, by a delusional bunch of nuts, of which a few, in all their butthurt pain, are on this very forum.

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  • Peaceinmiddleeast

    Microsoft must really think we are fools. I’ve been loyal to you guys for so long but now I feel foolish for spending $1000s on xbox live, downloadable content, games, accessories and several unreliable consoles due to hardware failure when you clearly don’t care about us. The signs were there. Fool me once……

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    • Yamagushi

      Did they break into your home and take it all back from you? Thats awful!

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  • Joseph B.

    So let me get this straight. If I buy two consoles/XBOX Live accounts with one game, lets say COD: Ghosts. If I install it to my console which is in my room, but if my family wants to play it on the console in the living room, we have to pay for it again!? If so, bye, bye microsoft!

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    • Shaniqua1990

      Another CoD 12 year kid off XboX. Good.

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      • RED360

        Have fun plaing live with your self. Lol

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      • Joseph B.

        I don’t play COD, FYI and I’m 32.

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      • RED360

        Cod is dead how many times can you redo it?

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      • Joseph B.

        That’s the reason I don’t play it.

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      • RED360

        lol same

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    • Jamie Putnam

      You are correct.

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  • starwolf1001

    I got a dozen people to try, and like, Gears of War 1,2, and 3 by letting them try mine….if that changes….

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  • Matt Anderson

    Im hoping I will go to sleep and this news that I am reading is just a nitemare. I will wake up hopefully and used games and borrowing from friends will still be allowed without and additional fee

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    • Shaniqua1990

      goodnight sweet prince

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  • Bert

    I hope he reads these replies or someone at Microsoft does. At least give people a reply either here or on twitter

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    • Shaniqua1990

      It’s 2AM. People worked all day and go to sleep at night.

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    • RED360

      I cant wait to see M$ stock report tomorrow.

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      • Scott Brown

        sony stock and nintendo went up 9% after the xbox reveal..

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        yep funniest thing ever, you know they went from stressed pre-conference to jubilant as soon the numbers started rolling in!

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      • RED360

        Lol. Ya i guess hard core game’rs don’t trade in stocks.

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  • Tyler

    Man today was a sad day… Microsoft simply took all my next gen hype… I really, really hope that they uses this feedback to do something about all this nonsense that they throw at us today. And is known that Microsoft itself are shocked by the negative reaction of people with this Xbox One. So learn from your mistakes, It’s not too late to say that it was all rumors and that none of this internet connection mandatory or used games fee is not going to happen. It’s best to retreat now than to be sorry later.

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    • Matt Anderson

      absolutely agree!!!!

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    • BetrayedByM$

      the pictures on IGN of Kinect show the port for Kinect on the back of the xbox, so why does it have to be connected and always on, why can’t you just plug it in if you want to use it and if you don’t want to use it, then dont plug it in.

      i dont understand why M$ just doesn’t tell us the reason for the Kinect being always on an scanning the room, even in the dark. that just seems creepy.
      and an invasion of privacy

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      • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake W.

        I know right. Gonna have to toss some towels over the kinect sensor when I’m not using it.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        make sure they aren’t wet, if it breaks u cant use the console at all ;P

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      • BetrayedByM$

        lol you can’t use it anyways if you dont have Internet or check in every 24 hours …i mean seriously. every 24 hours ? lol M$ you F***** lol

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      • BetrayedByM$

        lol i would do that but, didn’t they say the controller uses the Kinect? so there for you can not cover it? not sure about that but i thought i heard something about that.

        if you can cover it, then i will put tape on it an keep it covered, lol and no worries but i think the prob is, you can not cover it, the controller needs the sensor?

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  • Jamie Putnam

    We should’ve seen this coming. First MS ended the Family accounts and then EA said it would no longer use season passes. EA would no longer need season passes is what they should’ve said. The Family accounts would make it difficult for us to justify locking a game to a single profile. This feels like a back alley deal. This may not be the case, but it sure feels like it.

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  • Peaceinmiddleeast

    It’s astounding how the xbox one reveal went from being the highlight of my day to the worst part of my day.

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    • Jeremy Crenshaw

      i feel ya there

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  • http://www.facebook.com/steven.r.neaves Steven Ray Neaves

    Xbox one is like Star Wars Episode 1 of gaming consoles!

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    • Scott Brown

      and the kinect is JAR JAR

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    • Jeremy Crenshaw

      More like the Pink Wookies in Star Wars Galaxies lol

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  • Ironmanxrs2

    God, I’ve been an XBOX loyalist since day 1 & am a 10+ year XBOX LIVE member but there is just something creepy about an always on console with a camera array that can see you in the dark, understand your expressions, listen to you even over concert noise, and that can read your heartbeat. I’m not a tinfoil hatter by any means but THIS IIIIS JUUUUST TOOOOO MUUUCH! Fix it MS! I don’t like Sony and I don’t want to have to switch!

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    • Yamagushi

      Why does that bother you? If someone wanted to spy on you, there are much easier ways.

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      • Ironmanxrs2

        Because other easier ways wouldn’t be staring right at me and my family all day every day, always on.

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      • Yamagushi

        Sure they would, you just wouldn’t know about them. Nobody wants to see you jerkin it in your robe. (No offense lol)

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      • Ironmanxrs2

        I bet somebody would. I’m not bad looking. LOL

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      • BetrayedByM$

        LOL ironman

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      • BetrayedByM$

        serious? stop trollin or dont you have kids? I do NOT want some pervert watching my kids play xbox or while they are in their bedrooms sleeping. that camera scanning the room even in darkness, is just plain creepy an uncalled for

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      • Yamagushi

        I don’t think you understand how technology works. Somebody cant hack into the xbox and watch your kids. Its completely unrealistic.

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      • BetrayedByM$

        i still dont trust it, M$ has controll over the xbox , that means the Kinect as well. not trying to fight with you, but the kinect being always on an scanning you and the room all the time? no thanks, an they should NOT force that on us. if you want Kinect then buy it, if you do not , then don’t. why is that so hard?

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      • Yamagushi

        I assure you, It can’t be used in the ways that your thinking. But if your really that paranoid, put a dish rag over the thing..

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      • Ironmanxrs2

        That’s reassuring and not at all creepy to have to account for Hal every day…

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      • BetrayedByM$

        lol as long I can cover it, then i don’t have an issue with it. but you can’t cover it right? because of the controller?

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      • Yamagushi

        Nah you can, wouldnt make a difference, just wouldnt have motion controls

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      • BetrayedByM$

        awesome. if that’s true then it’s not such a big deal . cause that is so damn creepy!

        The way M$ talked about it, it sounded like you had to have it on and always scanning the room in order for the console to even work. but if you can cover it or turn it away , then that’s good. I would prefer to just not plug it in at all but they said that it has to be plugged in.

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      • BetrayedByM$

        I still prefer that they bundle one with Kinect an one without. i know they want the devs to use it an make games for it but if more than half your consumers are telling you, we dont want it, why not just make one with a bundle and one with out an make everyone happy?

        lol stupid M$

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      • Yamagushi

        Sometimes a company is sure about a technology, but people hate change and refuse to accept the technology, so you have to more or less force it on em. Few years down the line its part of there daily lives and they forget they ever had a problem with it.

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      • BetrayedByM$

        lol i don’t know about that, how long has Kinect been out now? and i still HATE IT as does many others. It’s fine if you offer it but don’t try an force it is all i’m saying. I do NOT want to sit at my tv an yell at it to play a video game.

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      • Clarkanoid

        Like military drones, nuclear missiles and gas chambers, you mean?

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      • Yamagushi

        Oh,”If you want kinect buy it”, They want everyone to have it so developers will use it. If only 50% of the market has one, developers will avoid it as they don’t want to lose the other 50% of sales.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        I don’t see why it would be that hard, unless u disconnect ur internet from it after use every single time.

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      • Yamagushi

        You realize with as long as the 360 has been out, such a thing is still not possible?

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        360 isn’t running on a cloud like Microsoft has the One doing either.

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      • Yamagushi

        It doesnt run on the cloud.. It uses the cloud.. And that doesnt make it any easier either way..

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        Microsoft is planning on using the Cloud service to run certain processes for the unit, it’s already known. It can’t be very much cause that is slow as hell, but it’s enough to create an intrusion vulnerability.

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      • Yamagushi

        I doubt it will ever have a vulnerability through wifi.. They aren’t that easily hackable.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        The same way the PSN got hacked? u hack the server and since it’s got a direct connection to the console (otherwise it couldn’t be running the processes) just get right on in

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      • Yamagushi

        That’s not even close to how it works…

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        I know i over-simplified and used a super-generic example that’s illogical but it’s possible to hack, not saying it’s plausible.

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      • Yamagushi

        If a 6 figure hacker spent a few weeks or months at it, maybe. But again, if someone wants to watch you that badly, theres easier ways.

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        Unless they do it just to make the statement that this is a wrong thing to do… Which is what most hackers do

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      • Yamagushi

        The system would have to be hacked from over the internet, someone would have to install custom software onto the xbox that took control of the camera, then send that info back to themselves. All the while keeping the xbox running unsuspiciously…

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      • Clarkanoid

        Easier ways than putting a mandatory facial-recognition camera in their room? Ha, nice one Yukie.

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      • Yamagushi

        Easier ways than getting access to that camera.

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    • BetrayedByM$

      AMEN

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    • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake W.

      I agree. Hopefully they listen to feedback and backtrack on some of the decisions they made.

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  • YOUNTtheMODEST

    The biggest problem I see with this license transfer ordeal is that everyone has said there is a precedence set for transfer but the thing is it is software based. We’re are forced to buy hardware that is specific to that software. And I have found nothing that supports that

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Steele/727028363 Patrick Steele

    Straight from the Wired article:
    “once a user installs a game to their account on the Xbox One that game
    won’t install for any other account without an unspecified fee.”

    How are you guys reading that as “Microsoft will charge me a fee to play a used game I buy at Gamestop”? Once you uninstall the game, it unlocks, and the license is transferred to whoever installs it next. Stores will have to have a system to make sure it’s unlocked from the people that trade them in or it will be chaos.

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    • Peaceinmiddleeast

      What’s the need for a “system” or “licenses” other than to take advantage of us and limit what we can do with property we purchased?

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      • PS4 HERE I COME

        You are right I pay 60 bucks for the game I should be able to let a friend use it like wtf my money went into your pocket so you can tell me who can and cant play

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    • Jeremy Crenshaw

      Except for this whole part:

      “Microsoft can detect whether a game has been SOLD TO A RETAILER AND REPURCHASED, or handed from one friend to another. In such instances, the second user must pay a fee.”

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    • YOUNTtheMODEST

      No bubba think BF3 you had to use a code to play online multiplayer. Same concept but now instead of the online multiplayer you can’t even get passed the load screen with out a valid code

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  • BlinkFandango

    Yeah, I’m done with Xbox. About half the games I own are used and this is a really pathetic money grab that isn’t used in other media like books and movies. Why are games different?

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    • Matt Anderson

      spot on with your books and movies analogy and id add music too that also does not employ such a terrible strategy

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      • BlinkFandango

        I wonder what happens when you go home, redeem the code, play the game, decide you don’t like it and then try and return it to the store.

        I also wonder how this will affect game rentals, essentially it sounds like if you want to rent a game, you’ll effectively end up buying it. No thanks.

        I really like some of the features of the Xbox One, but this along with having to have an Internet connection to play single player games (even if it is only once a day) kind of killed the announcement for me. Stupid unnecessary additions that help the big game companies and ruin everything for the consumer.

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      • Matt Anderson

        another good point

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  • ChristianAndrade

    Past the issue with used games, what I saw today was the transformation of my favorite console into an overly expensive TiVo/hands free TV remote. It would be like watching BMW announce they will only be making minivans. Unfortunately I am not surprised. Microsoft has been obsessed with having their products in the “family room” since the days of webTV. The whole idea of one device doing everything well is the tech industry’s fountain of youth. They keep trying to do it, but they will continue to fail. In the process they mucked up an awesome gaming console.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/shawn.springer.9 Shawn Springer

    What I am reading is that you have to buy the game at 80 bucks now.. cant sell it because UBISOFT and others would do back alley deals with MS. Meaning you have to be online at all times to play their games. Some games wont require it, or developers may not have it connected to the internet. The thing is will it play my old xbox 360 games and can arcade games be transferred? What if i buy an arcade game a month before the xbox one comes out, will they make one for the xbox one so I can choose which one to download? I Think MS has gone down hill on this because SONY got the bluray market and shut HD out. Think about this, its a 500 gig hard drive with games ranging from 25-50 gigs.. 10-20 games on a console. Thats a lot of hard drive being used constantly, I see a system crash before too long with all the writing and deleting.

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    • droozilla

      and let’s not forget it’s not really 500 gigs. It’s more like 450, and then another who knows how much for ‘system files’

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      • Jeremy Crenshaw

        And that hard drive isn’t removable for future upgrade. You will have to attach an external usb hdd.

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      • http://www.facebook.com/shawn.springer.9 Shawn Springer

        With the system, its less then 500.. Maybe even way less like the nintendo had half for the operating system.

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    • Jeremy Crenshaw

      It will have no backwards compatibility with your 360 and Arcade titles, u get to keep ur gamerscore that’s it. PS4 isn’t going to backwards compatible with the PS3 or the current PSN either, but it will be able to emulate PS2 and PS1 through streaming.

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  • Yamagushi

    K, bed time. Your all wrong! lol

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    • BetrayedByM$

      LOL go to bed hater

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    • Superman64

      Goodnight, troll. lol

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  • Anton Zsandor

    Go home Xbox One, you are drunk….

    worst marketing ever dudes…

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