Activision Blizzard, Rainbow Six Extraction & Nobody Saves the World

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welcome to the xbox podcast it's 2022 it's still we're in january this is our second show of the new year and if you're a new or returning viewer welcome the only podcast straight from xbox we drop each friday youtube spotify google apple podcasts all those amazing places you don't just get me you get the gang there's jeff over there on your left rebecca over there on your right and everybody's here hey gang how you guys doing slow week yeah just not much i was like you know when we were taught we were going back and forth you were all texting should we do a show we don't really have much to talk about yeah we should know we got a lot to talk about don't we in fact you know one of the big news in fact we usually talk about what we're playing and things about that so i've been doing all the talking so maybe we should talk a little bit about that rebecca hello new york hello from new york um yeah i haven't been a ton this week um like i mentioned last week i've been playing overcooked 2 with my roommate and some friends um great couch co-op game i got to try nobody saves the world which spoiler alert is out on steam xbox and xbox game pass and i actually met with ian from drinkbox studios and look forward to that interview a little bit later but yeah it's a pretty cool game rpg some different like table top elements you can change forms it has a kind of uh i don't say dark sense of humor but kind of like a zany sense of humor throughout the game so um it's it's pretty cool but i'll talk more about it later all right that's cool that's a great team um so i their first game that so drink box uh they made you might have played guacamelee one and two which were like really awesome metroidvanias that had like a cool style and like really nailed the combination of um i would say the metroidvania traversal and combat it's excellent game check either of them out if you haven't already um uh because i love them but their first game was uh mutant blobs attack right which i i think i i think it did eventually it was an early id xbox game i played it when i first came out on ps3 and i got to meet a number uh folks uh over there and they just have a very uh fun cartoony art style but they really nailed the gameplay and that's uh so i'm definitely looking forward to playing nobody saves the world yeah you'll see in fact rebecca thank you for doing that we'll roll that later on you'll see a lot of the gameplay so we kind of go through talk about some of the crazy characters there um and then jeff i see what you have over your shoulder there a little bit of a cut scene one of the other big games in game pass this week right yes uh rainbow six extraction a day one entrant into xbox game passing game pass for pc and we got to we got to play this last week and go on larry not only do we get to play and rebecca you weren't around when we played this we played it completely wrong

so i i feel like we're kind of in like a new golden age of cooperative shooters um and uh with many of them in game pass uh like like aliens fire team and back for blood um we went into this kind of like back for blood and back for blood what i've really enjoyed about it uh when we were playing it all in the fall was this was like the game where oh friends are in it let's catch up how you been haven't seen in a while oh by the way we're just like you know chewing through hordes of of zombies it's kind of mindless right you know we're just kind of the game plays in the background to your point not not that yeah this is but this game is completely opposite like we dropped in rebecca and uh we're like okay let's just okay we kind of see somebody over there okay let's go and go running into the building and i don't think anybody came out so so the way it work it's significantly more tactical there's a game where you you need a game plan you check your corners you can actually deploy a uh like a drone a little it kind of looks like cell phone on wheels together you've seen this you've seen this in the previous rainbow sixes you can go through and whatnot you spot you spot where these these aliens are and um you mark them and and the key things are there's like these nests that can spawn new ones obviously you need to take them out but when things are under when you're quiet you go in you surgically eliminate these these different nests or aliens or or whatever you're under control once it hits the fan though you know you got to start making snap decisions and let's just say we were not graceful under pressure uh at all we were pretty wiped out and so the the the levels are sort of divided into sections and um you have you pick out these different uh operators they have different skills i was using a medic as i typically do one of them could uh spot different uh characters from from a far distance some can sort of clean up this slime that's on the floor that slows you down and you when you make it to the next section you can sort of regroup a little bit and re-ammo up and stuff like that we made it past the first section one of us made it through i think what you can do is if if someone gets uh knocked out

i'm the one who went down first and you it's not like you get you can go down once but if you get if you get taken down second time then you're out and when you're out as jeff said you're encased in this you look like a mummy right you're encased in this looks like gauze but that's it but somebody has to carry you out to the revive machine which in some cases i think jeff you carried me out for a little bit and will from the wire was our other third player he carried me out but it was brutal but at the end what happened is i at some point i just like because i when you're holding them then you can only use your sidearm yeah and i ran out of out of ammo and my sidearm you guys feeling smarter and at some point i just dropped larry and ran and managed to make it out and then what happens is that operator has to be rescued in a future one so it's not like we'll get him next time he doesn't respawn at the beginning he's still in there yeah i'm still in there exactly so you'd have to choose a different character and go in and like rescue and like properly rescue them and have them sort of be medevaced out and um i want to give this another go but we just have to be smarter more patient more quiet and not just be like talking about our day you know yeah this game needs to be in the front of your thinking not in the back of your thinking and i'm sure once we get there we'll figure it out but just like with any new game we've all played that new game and it's it's you know you got to figure it out but to jeff's point once once they carried me out there's a revive it's almost like the back to pod in in in um boba fett right you could you drop me in right you drop me in this thing and i'd maybe i'm floating in something i don't know um but it's and you have to revive and it's not like oh revived it's actually taken some time right right jeff yeah yeah um there's plenty of times your back is constantly against the wall and this once things go down and so i did watch just to see what other folks i knew of the reviewers had it and watched a stream from kind of funny where um andy cortez who was a fantastic shooter player seemed to play a lot of halo he was joined by snow bike mike and i was like oh these guys are playing an entirely different game okay actually would you mind if i read the text jeff a couple days ago um he says so apparently you've been talking this is jeff jeff texts to me about rainbow six he says

we rushed it a bit people i spoke to with it are digging in we are playing it wrong to run and gun that's what it says and i said we have to play it slowly says yes we need to be clinical check the corners and i said like splinter cell slow he says perhaps so we played it wrong we're saving you trust me we're saving you angst right now go slow look if you want to run a gun there are those games actually anna cruz's just came out last year and i haven't played it yet but it seems like a real swift uh you know have fun uh and and just not think too much you want to be more tactical this is your game and it looks great and so we just need to get get good i guess rebecca will you help us get good yeah i it sounds fun i mean i definitely like when i play co-op games like this like i try to go on the slower end and i feel like i'm always the one kind of picking up like picking up the slack at the end so uh yeah if you guys want to do a more thorough playthrough i'd love to join this weekend yeah and it's again uh you know this is in the theme here the umbrella of it's on game pass it's now available on game pass we'll talk i'm going to talk to one of the level designers later on in the show so check it out uh rainbow six extraction on game pass right now so all you and all your game pass friends can download it and check it out

so anything else happen this week let's see let's see

and a half or 69 billion dollars less right now did you pick that up anyway yeah as you probably saw um you know the big news this week was we have an intent to inquire activision blizzard uh microsoft is going to so that's really exciting for us now i'm sure you're tuning into this and the comments are going to fill people oh we want to know x y and z and all these details and the reality is this is going to take a while this is a as you know money-wise it's one of the biggest it's the biggest deal microsoft's ever purchased we were talking about that and somebody told me it was the biggest deal in the tech industry i don't know if that's actually true um but in any event it's a lot of money and there's a lot of um a lot of work that needs to be done before it's finalized and that's all we can really say right now as you can imagine there's lawyers and regulators and there's a lot there's a lot of i don't want to say hoops but there's a lot of work to be done before this is done i think that's a good way of putting it right guys and then once that's done then we can talk more right yeah then we can talk more so then if if you're tuning in you're not going to get any you're not going to hear about anything really you know more about what we're planning on doing because we don't know yet we have to wait until you know the ink is dry okay it's like it's not it's like it's like when you point at a house and go oh we want to buy that house we don't own it yet we move in we can't move in yet okay we're not there so um once that happens and the deal is closed i'm sure we will have plenty to talk about and we'll have some guests on the show and looking forward to everybody at activision and blizzard joining the xbox team because it's going to be a lot of fun now we know a lot of people there rebecca do you know anybody at activision blizzard you must have some friends there uh i have a couple friends yeah yeah i do too and jeff i know i know you as well uh so we're it's gonna be exciting to you know have a reunion with old friends and create new ones so that's really the most important thing it's going to be very exciting i think um you know i we all have a backlog and sitting in my backlog i think pinned is there's a couple i always love the call of duty campaigns and i know i can go to them whenever and i have them all because i've picked them all up in the last couple of years um but i think i think i'm like too behind now i need to go i need to play the the most recent black ops campaign now i feel like very motivated to go do that so yeah we'll be catching up pretty soon well we got a lot we got a lot to catch up on but yeah so we're excited about that and again you know as as things continue and progress and things get closer to when it's going to be finalized we'll have more details or at least we'll i can share more but right now there's nothing more to say except we're excited i think that's about it right yeah you could end up pretty well if you want to look at details uh everything that's out there is on uh there's two places one is on xbox wire that's going to be pinned to the to the top of news.xbox.com for some time then over on microsoft.com there's the the press release which talks about a little bit more of the businessy side i'm sure if you listen to the show you've probably already seen all this stuff but if you want to see you know comments from phil phil wrote the blog post on uh on xbox wire really interesting to see his thoughts and to see what the gaming leadership team looks like on xbox we've got a nice uh image there so it's just really cool i have a little story and i think i told this one to you jeff because last week uh i was here in my office and i was playing i think i was playing maybe i was waiting to play halo waiting for you jeff or i don't know maybe i i think i was playing the pedestrian because i've been into that lately and i went through and i got an invite from phil a game invite for i think we were playing something on uh spelunky too and so we joined spelunky too we get into the game party and we're talking and we're chatting and we're talking about our holiday and and i just had i couldn't tell but there was something the way phil was talking i was like something's going on something big and i didn't know what it was i had no idea what it was and sure enough here we are so but i can just say this phil is phil is an amazing person to work with um he is seriously he's if you follow him on xbox live um you know he is he he games all the time he plays he knows the game loops he knows he's you know he worked he worked in studio so he knows all of that um but yeah he's it's great to have him as the ceo of gaming here at xbox it's just amazing was he propping you up on spelunky too we were just running we you know he killed me a couple times i killed him a couple times again that that was one of those examples jeff of the game we were just talking and the game was in the background and that's what happened we just kept dying we're just trying to figure it out we're having fun so you have to really just remind everybody yes yes yeah uh so i've only played with phil a couple times i think we ran a raid in in destiny i think we did uh uh was it oryx uh or crota one uh the one like the second one ever and that was very uh intimidating because i just started here uh but we also played when rainbow six siege which is out on game pass for both pc and console wanna make sure you know that uh separate from extraction which is of course also available in both um we jumped in on on xbox one when it came out and we ended up in playing with phil right and that's a very tense game and as you recall you know it was two different groups of what we were like six of us yeah and i was tense as it was because it's a tense game i'm also tense because we're playing with phil playing with the boss we were going down yeah and we were going down we were like in a basement and we were on defense i think waiting for another group to come in i think i remember this my hand was on the trigger and i and it was like i had like a single shotgun i hit him i shot him in the back didn't knock him out but just like just one like sort of like shot and phil just goes did somebody shoot me and i don't i think i just like i just muted my mic i don't think i said anything and he knows he knows if he doesn't know that he knows now but yeah um i'm sorry phil i'm sorry that that happened let me basically but anyway he's what i'm getting at is you know he is and jeff and i and rebecca we know a lot of people in the games industry but he is one of the most incredible uh leaders he's a great he's a gamer himself he just cares about putting gamers at the center you hear him say that and it's all true right jeff you've been in meetings rebecca you've been in meetings with him i've been in meetings with him where he's like he's like yeah this is you know he thinks about it just like anybody else does just like gamers do so anyway a lot of times in five meetings he's just like what are you playing and we have a that that's the conversation that's the icebreaker you know or starting that's the icebreaker exactly so yeah that's always a fun conversation oh so in fact i'm trying to get him on i'll get him on the show in the future to talk more about this because he you know i sent him an email he's like oh i can't really like i said a moment ago can't really say too much so when he can say something i want to get him on so you did get some people on and it ties in with another piece of news that came out uh this week on tuesday um obviously the reverberations from uh the activision blizzard deal you know continued on i mean continue on as we as we um as we record this but a couple hours later we announced uh the late january releases for xbox game pass yes when i saw this list i was just like you know game pass does not miss and so there was some some really great stuff so i just wanted to call out a couple of the titles here please i don't know how if you've got this stuff handy over on uh uh you know on xbox wire but uh one of the games that is frequently was certainly in the running for game of the year last year death's door uh is available for uh cloud console and pc as of the time you're listening to this january 20th and uh that is a huge ad um nobody saves the world as we're gonna hear rebecca talking to drinkbox uh rainbow six extraction of course as we've been talking about a couple other games that jumped out at me uh i think this is the first of the the uh danganronpa games uh to appear on xbox correct me if i'm wrong it's uh trigger happy havoc that's available now and uh the hitman trilogy larry you got really into these hitman games right yeah this is hit this is all like the hitman it's almost like a platform they even integrate them really well into into so you can you can play missions from previous hit hit men uh all in sort of one thing there you go this is uh pretty awesome um i'm just keeping the graphic up here for those of you watching the video this is a graphic of of what jeff is kind of going through and i'll leave it here for a second while you walk through the titles yeah i normally don't go through every game but i think we should yeah go on rebecca

oh um no i was just gonna say i've i've played a couple of these um they're pretty good like that paparazzi no i didn't but it looks just up my alley have either of you uh no but i've read about it you have to you've got puppies and you have to take pictures of them so okay sounds like really honestly right yeah yeah

so i another game that i i think is very interesting uh is uh taiko no tatsujin the drum master this is a bottle on the bottom here drums yeah it looks sort of like a it's not a watermelon it's a it's a drum it's very happy no no it is jeffrey you're right it's a very happy drum so these games i played in the arcade in japan when i went to japan like a long time but this is like a lot these sort of like drumming games um and so i'm very interested in trying that out and then windjammers2 and i was like thinking back i'm like i feel like i've heard the name it feels like a sailing game and it doesn't look like a sailing game because it's like it's almost like uh like a tron disc game or something like that the original one came out as i was looking it up this morning in 1994 for neogeo i mean that is like that you know they've been sitting on this for like 20 85 years out yeah yeah so i just thought it was really interesting so were these coming back after that yeah i'm interested in trying it out and next it's a game pass so why not i mean just look at this this is just game pass this month i mean this is this is that's just the second half of the month that's the second half of the month right i forgot well you know so too as you said a moment ago two of those titles uh in in rainbow six extraction and nobody saves the world we have some interviews for now jeff would you mind bringing us into those interviews for us exactly first of all we're going to have uh larry speaking with mark andre claremont from ubisoft about rainbow six extraction hopefully some good tips on how to be better operators than than we are and then we're going to hear a lot from drink box from ian campbell who is the lead designer at drinkbox studios and uh let's find out if you're that nobody who's going to save the world rainbow six extraction is now available on xbox game pass very excited about it many other platforms as well joining me is one of the level designers marc andre claremont mark how are you it's nice to see you today thank you nice to see you too i'm doing good uh exciting exciting time for you because the the title has uh you know is now out and it's available tell us a little bit about what the game is about because i mean certainly rainbow six has such a history on xbox but i'd like to talk to you and i've got some gameplay to show it so just walk us through what this game is all about if you would please well this game is really about uh the rainbow six uh team going against this new threat the parasite that's uh taking over uh and really it's a first person tactical game uh first person tactical shooter uh it's really about going in with your either with you by yourself or with your team again against this new threat but again this time your guns are not enough you want to bring your a game but your a-game might not be only your guns it's really about using your gadgets your team to his full potential and all those kinds of things you know it's interesting i had a chance to play it a few days ago right before it came out and it is a very different type of game in that with rainbow six they've always been tactical but this time it's a different level like we decided we were gonna go in and run and gun and and that did not work i mean we were we were we were game was over pretty darn quick what are some of the tips you can give us as as folks are suiting up that are familiar with rainbow six what are some tips you can give us uh to get ready to to take on the enemy well for sure i can understand where you go like this game really has a lot of challenge uh the tactical aspect of it but also the lethality everything can go down very quickly so make sure that you take your time try to keep the control as long as you can of course try to bring the proper synergy between your operators and your friends as you go in making sure that you can cover all the angles take the opportunity to to mark to observe uh taking down those enemies before the alert goes goes uh goes off it's gonna make a huge difference and make sure that you take away if if ever the alert goes on make sure you take a take care of the nest as quickly as possible because otherwise they will make you pay the price now tell us about as the level design director and i want to go back to some of the game player because the the levels are very interesting what are you looking for as you're cr crafting these levels because they're rather they're rather intricate they're not the standard video game level which is point a to point b there's lots of pathways here right absolutely uh and in our case we really want to go with the procedural nature of the levels uh at first we started when we started back in the day we started with a more linear experience and we first we went and said this this is not the game that we need to do we're trying to do this tactical experience and tactical is really about exploring making sure that you you take the time and observe and you face different threats every time so the objectives are going to be different uh the location of those objectives is going to be different and every time you go in the the map we all maps are made out of three submaps the orders of them some apps are going to be different uh the order that you go in is also going to be different as well so that as a team you have some knowledge of what you're going to be facing against uh maybe some knowledge like you know which objective and what order you're going to be but you don't know where they're going to be you don't know where the how to call it uh what order they're going to be you don't know the position you don't know which enemies you're going to be facing so this is really about the tactical aspect making sure that there's the proper amount of unknown and making sure as a player you go in and you face those different challenges every single time now you talked about the procedural nature of these levels and for those folks that don't know procedural means that every time you play it the system builds it slightly differently um and so as a level designer how do you think about that because you know procedurally it's kind of doing a lot of your work do you give it rules that that it must uh kind of abide by uh yes that's exactly what it is uh basically we're not saying that everything is magically generated every time procedural is really about creating this ecosystem where everything connects to each other and those rules will eventually come up with a different incursion but really uh if we went with this route is really to make sure that uh getting the proper balance of unknown versus handcrafted making sure that you get this uh challenges they're gonna be good for your team you know we talked about the fact that rainbow six is such a storied history on xbox and certainly many other platforms you know what what what were some of the things you had to think about bringing the rainbow six experience into um you know to kind of a a pve experience because you're taking on the you know let's be clear your your operators are taking on the ai what were some of the things that you had to kind of think about from the original rainbow six experience oh so many things i mean at first uh first and foremost we were about like going from the the rainbow six seizure making sure that the operators that we pick do fit in this pve environment as well as now that we're facing uh pve environment it it makes sense that for the first time in siege we can go with leveling up operators and making sure that you acquire more things the more you play getting unlocking new weapons uh really growing as an operator and acquiring new new gadgets with the react tech and everything uh there was huge amount of stuff that we can bring from the from the uh how do we call it heritage of rainbow to this new experience here facing this new alien parasite threat you know i talked a little bit about a moment ago about how when i went in uh i was kind of kind of destroyed you know we the team and i went in and jeff and i went in and a couple others went in it was just we were too fast what are some of the early early uh tips you can give folks that maybe are new to the rainbow six franchise and how they should approach this

ah many things i mean take the time to observe making sure that you choose the proper operator for the proper threat i mean if you know you're gonna face off against some objective which are more defense related some operators might shine a little bit more uh for example if you go in a defense scenario tachenka is going to be great if you go more for an office scenario it's going to be great to bring in your team lion to be able to scan enemies through walls take your time on all the walls make make sure that you take the time to look at the environment you have a timer but the timer is pretty generous you have time to to do your things uh at the same time uh for don't forget your secondary gadgets uh sometimes a small grenade well placed is gonna make a big difference or a flash a stun grenade uh what else can we think for players i mean there's so many things that of course lining up the proper shot going for headshots is going to make a it's going to make a make or break uh it's going to be a lot easier to do it before the alert goes on but once the alert goes off i would say bring your a game spam things that you can that you can do to make sure that you try to gain back control as much as possible and don't forget the name of the game is extraction if you get out of control sometimes the best solution is to extract yeah or you know that's being kind sometimes the best solution is to turn around and run so um i really appreciate it it's great i mean i mean i know folks are excited about it it's it's now available for xbox game pass and a lot of other platforms as well so check that out and i'm really excited to welcome uh rainbow six to game pass and of course rainbow six on xbox is such a great experience mark really appreciate your time today and hopefully you have a great day and thanks again and congratulations on launch thank you thank you for having me i look forward to play with uh so a lot of players uh very soon nobody saves the world from drink box studios is out now on xbox xbox game pass and steam and joining us today we have ian campbell the lead designer welcome to the show hey thank you so much for having me um do you want to just tell us a little bit about the game drinkbox studios and your role as lead designer sure okay i'll start with the game so uh nobody saves the world i'll i'll try and tackle it all uh nobody saves the world it's the newest game from drinkbox studios it's kind of like an action rpg where you're constantly getting access to like more and more of these wild and wacky forms there's like almost 20 in the game some of them are like more standard like a ranger or a guard but some of them are many of them are more wild like a robot or a horse or a slug you know and you can switch between them at any time you can like pull a move off a dragon and give it to the horse you have like a fire breathing horse like they can all be customized with each other's moves so there's a lot of like freedom and experimentation in the game um as for drink box uh we're at toronto studio we've been making games for i mean way over 10 years maybe even like 50 or more um we just like making games that excite us and are kind of different and yeah that's awesome uh yeah i was hoping you could tell me a little bit about the different forms that you can take so i haven't gotten super far in the game yet but i've seen other people's playing as like a horse a bodybuilder a mermaid um do you have like a different form in particular that's your favorite or that you like playing as i i really like the horse um the horse is the it's pretty weird because for example it's a horse so it has to attack by like kicking backwards with his legs so it needs a lot of like fiddly precision but if you can do that it like kicks so hard that it like blows enemies away into other enemies and causes like big chain reactions uh it also has my favorite side quest in the game like many different forms have little like secret interactions or quests they can do and the horses is all about like falling in love so there's like a horse love interest you can discover uh which pops up a few times in the game love it romantic game

i i i did find the gameplay really satisfying like just accomplishing the quests and the progression um and i noticed that there are some little terms in there that i've seen from like tabletop games or like magic i'm curious what kind of games your team plays or what kind of games you're inspired by oh man i mean we play so many different games which is great because i actually don't play that many rpgs so i would go to the other designers and be like please help me give me information and they would because they play so many like you know like hades and binding of isaac or diablo or like path of exile stuff like that um i'm into like bayonetta and character action games and stuff um one of the main inspirations for this one was final fantasy tactics like the number of jobs and the way you customize them in that game um and maybe even like a silly one is like jetpack joyride where like you're constantly getting little uh like quests and uh rewards for playing the game no i like that that's cool and i think it's great that you guys all play a different variety of games and so that kind of experience and knowledge lends its way to a very well-rounded experience so i love that um i haven't gotten the chance to play co-op yet but i noticed there is an online co-op for the game too um were you guys thinking like is there a different way that people should play when they play together or how did you imagine the co-op experience coming out um i don't think there's a like prescribed best way to play co-op it's just part of what makes the game so good is that there's so much freedom to experiment and that goes for co-op too like all the forms to progress they're doing these little what we call quests like challenges like oh hit five guys at once with this move or like find a clever way to inflict this kind of damage um so in co-op if both people are playing as the same form they could um tackle those quests together like the rat has to kill like 10 poison guys so like one player could focus on poisoning people and the other player could focus on killing them um but at the same time if you're both different forms you could just kind of do your own thing and maybe even have like a friendly competition of like trying to steal like a quest completion objective before your friend does or something okay i'll have to try it out um i'd also like to say i just really enjoy the ridiculousness of the game uh like some of the mpcs and the signs just like these like little um like humor and like parts of personality of the game like randy the rad every time i talk to him is just i don't know do you have a favorite like npc or yeah we all i think we all love randy the rad at the studio he's pretty great um i think marty joe i don't know if you've met marty joe yet um he's like a okay well only minor spoilers he comes in pretty early but like he's a walking talking hammer he's like a person who's been cursed to be a hammer uh he's a very emotional hammer and i really enjoy his antics okay good i'll keep an eye out for him then i mean do you have any other tips or other things that new players should keep an eye out for in the game hmm tips i think mostly just like the quest system that i was describing of how forms progress it's i think it's pretty non-standard so the you know the more you pay attention to it the quicker you're going to progress and the quicker you're going to access more and more of the forms and like the forms abilities and like all the the juicy stuff that makes the game extra fun so i guess my biggest tip would just be like just take a few extra minutes focus on that quest system and understanding it and you'll be like setting yourself up for a great time okay awesome um so where should people go to find out more information on the game or share their feedback and their experiences

oh hey i mean you mean like our twitter is always open we have a discord uh yeah pretty much anywhere with our name on it okay cool uh do you have anything else that you want to share before we wrap up

um i guess just you know that it's such a great opportunity to be on here talking about it and to like release a game to be played by so many people i just hope everyone really enjoys it awesome well thank you so much again for joining us uh folks recommend you try out nobody saves the world it's on steam xbox xbox game pass thank you again ian great thank you so much thanks ian and thanks mark andre for sharing about your new games nobody saves the world rainbow six extraction both available on xbox game pass right now game pass for pc go play it why are you watching this show oh wait because we have other people here thanks for doing those interviews it's always fun to talk to game developers it's great to get back in the swing of things rebecca thank you for handling that one and jeff we got we got a couple we're working on for you jeff but you know they have to be yakuza based apparently according to your contract the game's not the criminal organization yes exactly thank you oh that's what i say only i beat last judgement i'd still thinking about it so by the way did you notice on my on twitter um when we made the activision announcement um i changed the header of my i mean nobody even looks at twitter headers anymore i think they're always looking at it well i changed it to pitfall and it looks awesome yeah so when i was growing up um there was a kid in my neighborhood that and i grew up like nintendo but like some people still had ataris and there was a kid in my school whose dad worked for activision i was in philly so i'm assuming it must have been like a local sales rep or something like that but he had this weird atari and i guess this is what like the dev kits must have looked like at the time where there was like the cartridge was always stuck in it but he could remove and add chips in and out of it and he had all of the activision games and activision games were like amazing i mean even back in the atari days because they had pitfall they had kaboom there was like a lot of them they were one of the boxing game was that was that them i don't know there because the activision cartridges even look different they had like the rainbow stripe on them and everything so right it was an interesting time but i just remember i didn't know that was my first brush with the games industry wow i never did i did not know that um but anyway so it's uh yeah we've got a little bit more news here we're gonna wrap things up before we get um actually we'll talk about this uh right now if you don't mind jeff before we get to the news is one of the things what's the news although we already did the news it was a pretty big news week okay um well we know we have we have the cool uh cuphead stuff well yeah that but uh but we'll go to that in just a second but one of the one of the things i want to talk about is um i was talking about this over the or the holiday break uh between the middle of december and middle of january is i migrated the podcast over to um anchor back end which kind of feeds all of the podcast services like apple and google and some of the bigger ones um so i can i'll put a link to that as well but more importantly if you're a spotify subscriber you can now watch this in video this is one of the very few podcasts available as video which just kind of makes people go huh because the spotify client is built around listening to audio and playlists and so forth so go over there and check that out and then if you sometimes like this past show if you if you're watching it on the client on your phone or your tablet you can scroll down and i asked a question about what people look for in 2022. so you can actually reply there so doing a little bit of interactivity so don't miss that um did anyone answer did do we know if tay swift watched the last episode you know i know you brought that up last time and i don't know if uh taylor swift you know actually watch that i can't i can't speak for her and or her people but i can tell you that we had quite a few people listening to the show and as i scroll down here yeah oh wow we had a lot of people people the question was what game you're looking forward to in 2022 rainbow six extraction scorn starfield jeff is trolling me by asking if people are gonna if this feature is going to be used by any of the listeners uh hitman trilogy which we just talked about um larry you have to read the name of the person who said it because that's the payoff the payoff is you know the champ cave reimbursement in nashville or t swift in nashville we don't know who it was it could be any it could be thomas marvin jacoby scorn agent of tech star field i like for pancakes halo infinite which is all right i guess that uh uh let's see what else pasta nick starfield star field abdullah south so yeah there's a lot of folks there we're gonna be doing some interactive things if you actually go over to the page i link to um on on social to anchor you can actually leave us a voice message so send us a voice message i don't even know why we're doing that right i can i can play a couple of them if they're decent and kind if they're if we're asking people to leave a message we gotta what's the what's the ho you gotta think it through larry i have already fought it through here's here's here's what i'd like to do i'd like people to leave a voice message what would you say to rebecca's mom oh my gosh larry did not rehearse this

how is your mom by the way is she still reading the comments and listening to the show she is and she said that she's happy to send a voice message i think i just have to figure out i have to figure out how to do it so that i can tell her how to do it so stay tuned just feel free you know if you want to so the question i'm asking you like last week what game you're looking forward to in 2022 if you want to send us a voice message feel free to do with that you can either drop it there leave us a voice message but long story short is doing a lot of things on the back end it really won't impact you but you're probably going to see this podcast popping up in different areas and it's gonna be a much higher profile so stay tuned it's gonna be exciting 2022 for the podcast so i'll have i've got one and it could be next week then um i want to know and this is based on the fact of a trailer that came out also uh on the same day it was a very busy tuesday um what is your favorite

video game show and so i've been watching the witcher and i saw a trailer for cuphead show uh which here it is which looks amazing hit play hit that play button smash it i am look at it i mean we don't have the audio up here so we can talk over it but it looks like it's funny they have like very new york accents it's like hey cuphead what'd you do you're walking here

you see i did it i did the voice acting just yeah actually there was someone one of the characters really and i need to look at the imdb but one of them sounded like patrick from spongebob so right you really should look and see who are the voice actors for this but it comes uh it debuts and you'll see at the end of the trailer i want to say it's february 18th yup and it's a testament to how great cuphead the game looks that it looks a whole lot like the cartoon and look that's like even a mechanic from the game like when if you're playing co-op and one of the characters is killed the other character can grab the ghost the other there's the devil from the game get them back to life yeah and the dice there is casino right there exactly i've watched this trailer a couple times but it's pretty awesome for mdhr the the good folks who who made the game yeah to be able to expand into uh trans media well it's funny because if you think about it and i had them on last month it was so great to talk to them talking about their dlc coming out later this year i mean this is a video game that was based on old animation style and now this is a this is a show based on a video game from all the animation so it's kind of like this big circle there's a little i love lucy action there um anyway it's full circle it looks great i i never actually finished cuphead i got way too frustrated like halfway through um but so this is really cool like i i always really enjoyed the art style and like kind of the humor of the game so it's it's nice to see it come to life did you did you watch a lot of cartoons growing up rebecca yeah of course okay i i don't know i didn't know if that some people just don't like i my life my sisters and i still to this day many years later still drop bugs bunny references and warner brothers references and or because i mean those are just classic jeff you disagree yeah i think everyone's definition of classic is different i'm sure kids 20 years should now be dropping coco melon references into speech right but like whereas my kid probably does other than space jam 2 probably just or a new legacy well there's also something about you know the max fleischer cartoons which is what cuphead is based on and some of those were they were very very politically incorrect right they were very some of them were like what what are they doing you know it's it's very very interesting but anyway it's it's it's i mean i i'm a huge fan of animation i remember when roger rabbit came out i went to see that i was like oh wow you know putting live action with animation so i'm a big big animation fan i have some animated cells in here i have one i have one right over here behind my hanging in my office which is an original from a from a disney um i can't really show it for some insurance reasons but it's a uh it's a disney cell uh that i have and it's very proud of it so anyway so i love i love animation yeah same i think i grew up on cartoon network and nickelodeon and uh i can't see an omelette on a menu without going to fromage from dexter's lab that's very good that's very good continue on with the french theme of our show here uh anyway uh so we are we talked about we talked about spotify we talked about netflix we talked about uh what a big week it's been in uh in news for us this week in the tech industry so we're looking forward to talking about that in the future all right we're going to let you guys go because i know you've got by the way did you have some pictures in the back there rebecca i noticed the lights have some like nice photos back there yeah i did i'm working on it slowly i actually have a shelf and this lord of the rings poster that i'm gonna hang up but funny thing is the shelf didn't come with any screws so um i need to i have some more shopping to do so okay yeah screw shopping to do more specifically now just tape it up there it'll be fine now jeff and rebecca we i know the answer to this because we are on a separate thread at work do should we talk wordle at all let's talk word man are you i know i know who introduced us to all of this uh well i'm the one who started the the the thread at the office on our on our team's chat but i know that we were kind of all playing it independently like jeff i think you were playing it and then i started playing i don't know i don't i just think it was one of those it was like a spider-man thing you're playing it i'm playing it you're playing you know it's one of those things so right what i've learned is you all wake up much earlier than i do and it puts a lot of pressure on me because well rebecca you're on the east coast but by the time i wake up i wake up there's the chat already there like i got it in three turrets and i'm like great green yeah

i mean you guys i don't i mean larry what time do you wake up because there have been some times where i'm like just on my phone waking up and larry's already sent the team's message well you have to remember i have a four-year-old and she is uh she was on the screen so she was making she had a timing adjustment but usually i i usually get up at three a.m sometimes and i'll what what why why would you wake up at 3am because i don't know i got to go to the restroom i got to get some water and when i'm sitting there i'm doing well you do your wordle yes and then i go back that is terrible sleep hygiene like if i look at my phone that's it i'll be up that's just worried about you larry but like did you did you all do today's yes yes okay so today in this show we'll air a couple days so we're talking recordings on wednesday when it was point uh p-o-i-n-t and i what was your do you remember your first word rebecca that you started with what's your seed word

it changes i've i'm trying not to i mean maybe i shouldn't i think i used um learn okay uh and like i only got one one letter that was kind of out of order um and then i can't remember what i did next actually let me pull it up but yeah because the one that really got me was yeah oh sorry go ahead the one that really got me was uh shire i think over the weekend um and i mentioned this in our team's chat but like i so my roommate also does wordle i got her onto it um and after it was shire i was like i don't know if any like non lord of the rings americans would get this one because it's not a common word that we use and sure enough she like she's really smart like she gets most of them but she didn't get this one this one blanked her did she get it at all or did she did she not get it at all yeah it's a tough one yeah yeah but anyway what was your guys's starting word well for today it was playing p-l-a-n-e and i got you know first and and fourth yeah fourth and then i went to plane to pan panned at a point so how'd you do jeff which i usually start i start with i always start with stand okay um this is what i usually pick and then i usually pick something that begins with the m and has a bunch of vowels in it sometimes i'll use like if i'm not making any progress a burner word where i'll just ignore the greens and yellows and i'm like just to get as i'll pick a word like mourn or something m-o-u-r-n you know something that might like has like a lot of like popular letters that might not have shown up in that first group um just to like give me an idea and sometimes i'll strike gold especially if i hit like turn four and i'm still like nowhere near it then then drastically hail mary yep i've got a few on

you know people have really different strategies for this because i actually do that normally like i don't guess like if i get one like if i get like the you know like the green the green one to say like this is in the right spot i'll usually unless like i know what it is already i'll keep going with words that don't include that letter just so that i can kind of figure out what else isn't in yeah what's on that word and then i kind of save it for my final guess yeah well you know what i think uh as a result of this please ignore the earlier conversation this is the question what is your wordle start word that's the question we're going to play so ignore everything else that's and you can see if you're on spotify scroll down as you're listening or watching the show and you'll see a little thing pop up let us know what your wordle start word is how's that sound i think you should start pulling a random a random entrant i don't know if you can dm these people but i don't think i don't know if prizing can happen but that would be really fun yeah so look into it but like one of my start words is teams um but again yeah there's well now it just kind of popped in it worked for me last week i don't remember what it was i wish i could go back in this i should find you know what i should find the uh i should reach out to the guy who invented i think is andrew and get him on the show get on the show yeah andrew see if we could if you know him tell him we want him on the show uh but anyway so that's our wordle conversation anyway we gotta we gotta wrap up here cause i know we've gotta run to meetings we have our regular jobs to do but rebecca i appreciate you joining us uh three hours ahead in new york city and and keep up there hopefully you're staying healthy out there in new york i'm trying you know pizza diet but also getting a lot of exercise so it kind of balances out that's good all right well good sounds about right jeff i hope you're staying healthy as well not even close all right that's normal so anyway thanks gang thanks for thanks for downloading the show and dear listeners and viewers thank you for listening and and sending us feedback uh if you're if you're watching this on youtube drop something down in the comments if you're watching this on spotify or listening anywhere else go over to spotify and drop a let us know what your wordle start word is so we'd love to we'd love to hear you teams is it uh spork i don't know let me know spork that would be a good one all right we'll talk to anything before we go gang rebecca anything you want to say before we wrap up uh no jeffrey over to you please don't leave any voice messages for rebecca's mom i'll see you guys exactly yeah all right no rebecca's mom's voicemails but tell us what your word will start word is and we'll talk to you guys next week have a great time everybody bye-bye